Florida records highest water temperature ever

[Vermilion Villager]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)

[Golfer222]

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

[Chi-Town]

Bad news for the coral reefs.

[justjim]

Bad news for the coral reefs.

You might say bad news for Florida and other coastal areas of the United States.

[Keefelane66]

You just don't understand we're in a 9 year cooling trend.

[ThirdOfFive]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)
Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.

[margaretmattson]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html) Hopefully, no storms will form because of el nino and the Sahara dust. If any do form, TROUBLE! Hurricanes thrive in warm waters and are usually quite large. Not something I am wanting to experience.

[Vermilion Villager]

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?
Not THIS hot!!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/weather/2023/07/06/florida-hottest-year-miami-tampa-tallahassee-drought/#

[Vermilion Villager]

Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.
I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

[justjim]

You just don't understand we're in a 9 year cooling trend.

Interesting Sarcasm.

[ThirdOfFive]

I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!
Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.

[Golfer222]

Bet there will be snow and cold in Minnesota this winter as well

[Keefelane66]

Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.
Moored buoys have been in use since 1951, while drifting buoys have been used since 1979.
NOAA Buoy Reports App for iPhone &amp Android (https://www.noaabuoyreports.com/)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Manatee Bay isn't the open ocean. It's a mostly enclosed body of water. The surface temperature was measured, and that will always be warmer in the summer when the sun's out, than any of the water beneath the surface temperature. If this was a measurement of the water 3" below the surface say, halfway between Key Largo and the Bahamas, then it'd be newsworthy.

[merrymini]

There is always going to be changes. The problem is, a lot of this change is natural and there is nothing we can do about it.

[BoatRatKat]

Though many like to think that we can control the weather I believe only God has a say in that.

[NoMo50]

I'm sorry, I just can't help it. Every time I hear someone preaching about the latest "findings" regarding climate change, my mind immediately flashes to some late night televangelist: "We are all God's children. He loves us all. He wants a better life for everyone. But, God is broke."

[Normal]

There is always going to be changes. The problem is, a lot of this change is natural and there is nothing we can do about it.

Exactly, what can anyone do about it?

[Sully]

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[kcrazorbackfan]

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Well, he is talking about the water temperature, which fuels the bigger systems. Probably did it as an FYI for the new people here.

[Daddymac]

The earth been warming up since the end of the Ice Age.. NOW THATS A FACT!!

[Blackbird45]

Climate change, global cooling, global warming, there is no doubt there is something happening. The question that remains on the table is if man is directly responsible. Now I'm not a scientist, but the majority of the scientist are claiming that we are responsible.
The general public in this country spends billions and billions of dollars on beauty, products, vitamins, hair lose shampoos, you name it they'll buy it with very little evidence that any of them work. Yet here we are confronted with what many said could be a looming disaster and at least once a month it is argued on this site if it is real or if there is anything that can be don't. I myself always side on prevention, especially when it comes to my grandson's future. There are things we can do here, and the global community can add financial pressure on the countries that do not meet a specified standard. Now personally I could state this has no effect on me directly since I do not go out in the noon day sun but come the end of this year, I'm going to have to find a new company for home insurance, since Farmers has decided Fl. is no longer a good bet.

[NotGolfer]

Chicken Little anyone?? There is absolutely nothing anyone can do about the weather! Warning? Not even the weather-persons get it right 100% of the time.

[Southwest737]

Fake news? Current ocean water temperature in Florida (https://seatemperature.info/florida-water-temperature.html)

[Normal]

There is a reason the Washington Post is going into bankruptcy court. Their poor biased reporting killed them off with topics just like this one.

[HoosierPa]

My pool temperature this morning is 82 and will be about 85 at 3 pm. I’m going to enjoy it during my remaining days on earth and not worry about the ocean temperature too much unless I have spare time.

[Bay Kid]

Not to worry August is coming.

[Bill14564]

Fake news? Current ocean water temperature in Florida (https://seatemperature.info/florida-water-temperature.html)

I'll trust the NOAA buoy data. On the NOAA page I can see the location where the reading was taken, hourly data, a graph of the last five days, and readings from neighboring buoys.

All I can see on the seatemperature page is a single number. I believe the page claims to have historical data (the English is poor) but I cannot seem to find it.

[Tcole]

There is a reason the Washington Post is going into bankruptcy court. Their poor biased reporting killed them off with topics just like this one.

Biased reporting?!?

It’s the pot calling the kettle black folks!

[rrthoresen]

Indeed!

I wasn't questioning the accuracy of the thermometers. I was only questioning how long those thermometers have been employed.

how about where the thermometers are located

[Wondering]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)
So much for the Global Warming & Climate Change deniers. Keep warming the oceans and gulf and see the increase in hurricanes, not to mention our homeowner insurance premium increases.

[Bill14564]

how about where the thermometers are located

The article mentions the MNBF1 buoy. Google it then go to the NOAA page where you will find it on a map.

[Whitley]

Hopefully, no storms will form because of el nino and the Sahara dust. If any do form, TROUBLE! Hurricanes thrive in warm waters and are usually quite large. Not something I am wanting to experience.

A hurricane would reduce the water temperature. Perhaps hope for a fish hurricane.

[Whitley]

I guess you can dismiss as emotional hype all you want. Thermometers don't lie!

What would you suggest we do about it?

[justjim]

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

[Golfer222]

Dont know about "ever"--Seems like there was a hotter day about 13.8 billion years ago

[Normal]

That great philosopher Andy Rooney said it best. “People will generally accept facts as truth only if the facts agree with what they already believe”.

I always loved his ability to slice through the garbage people and the media dished out. It was the best part of 60 minutes to watch.

[Blueblaze]

EVER? Does that count the time Florida was part of the Atlantic Ocean and Dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Or just the last 50 years since we've taken the temp with satellites? Or do you mean the last 100 years since we started measuring the ocean with thermometers? Seems like a pretty short "ever"!

Funny, though. Most of the previous "records" seem to be from the 1930's -- before most of the world discovered automobiles and air conditioning, and we started making up names for hurricanes.

Any guesses as to what caused 1932 to be such a hot year? Or how about that giant hurricane that wiped Galveston from the map in 1900 and killed 12,000 people? Was that because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere exceeded 0.4% from all the horse flatulence before cars were invented?

I have to admit, the level of horse and bull emissions seems to be much higher these days!

[NewRealms]

Thank goodness for El Nino, Sahara Desert, and Jet Stream Wind shear. Should offset the warm waters in the Atlantic... for a while.

[rsibole]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)

Two words - data points.

Fact, shallow water is warmer than deep water. Temperature previously taken in ten foot of water but now taken in six inches of water to prove someone’s point of view is certainly possible to have been done, especially in light of the other data point manipulations we seen in polls, surveys and reporting.

Conclusions drawn from manipulated data points are false, like the need to eliminate gas cooking stoves and raise taxes to cool the ocean is necessary.

Proven facts, like ocean currents and underwater volcanic activity, do cause localized changes (data points). However, change is constant and unavoidable. Changes are the result of self canceling activities over an entire spectrum. It’s often referred to as “nature” but in fact is natural law. And unlike man’s laws, natural laws cannot be broken or altered by man.

If it were not for change, natural laws, there would be no oceans, no gas stoves and no you or me.

[Vermilion Villager]

My pool temperature this morning is 82 and will be about 85 at 3 pm. I’m going to enjoy it during my remaining days on earth and not worry about the ocean temperature too much unless I have spare time.
And I'm sure your grand children love you......

[Bill14564]

Two words - data points.

Fact, shallow water is warmer than deep water. Temperature previously taken in ten foot of water but now taken in six inches of water to prove someone’s point of view is certainly possible to have been done, especially in light of the other data point manipulations we seen in polls, surveys and reporting.

Conclusions drawn from manipulated data points are false, like the need to eliminate gas cooking stoves and raise taxes to cool the ocean is necessary.

Proven facts, like ocean currents and underwater volcanic activity, do cause localized changes (data points). However, change is constant and unavoidable. Changes are the result of self canceling activities over an entire spectrum. It’s often referred to as “nature” but in fact is natural law. And unlike man’s laws, natural laws cannot be broken or altered by man.

If it were not for change, natural laws, there would be no oceans, no gas stoves and no you or me.

Where did you get the information that the previous readings were taken in ten feet of water but recent readings were taken in six inches of water?

According to the NOAA information for the MNBF1 buoy the readings were taken at a depth of 4.9 feet.

Is there an underwater volcano two miles off the Florida Keys? I wanna go see that!

[mntlblok]

Bad news for the coral reefs.

That's one I do a fair bit of pondering about. Had a gap of many years between dives in the Keys and was shocked at the pitiful condition of the corals when I returned a couple of years ago. Have since learned that the die-off is due to some kind of bacteria (or pathogen of some type), but which kind has yet to be figured out.

We first lived in Pompano Beach after retirement so that I could shore dive from our condo. Between about Deerfield Beach and Fort Lauderdale there is reef running parallel to the shoreline starting as little as 100 yards off shore and in water as shallow as 11 feet. Comfy water temps of 85-86° in the summer months allows diving without neoprene. But, last summer I noticed that the temp rose to 87° (part of your dive computer info) for a short stretch and much of the coral soon suddenly bleached white. Interestingly, it all completely recovered in fairly short order. Haven't heard what's happening this summer, but I guess lobster mini-season is currently underway. Tiring of eating lobster is partly why we're here. :-)

My main ponderage, though, is whether the extent of coral reef growth will simply move north as ocean temperatures rise. Maybe folks won't have to drive as far for a dive vacation, eh?

[rogerrice60]

Good word!!
In the 60's, Global COOLING was the big concern, they feared the "ice cap " was so large it would tip the earth off its axis.
Find out what they did to correct that problem & dial it back a smidgen!

Ever?

Ever is a long time.

Why not just "since the temperature of the oceans has been systematically recorded"? Which I couldn't find in the linked "study".

Rule of thumb: Whenever I see words like "always", "never", "everybody", etc. etc. as part of anything purporting to be science, I automatically discount it as emotional hype. I guess we can add "ever" to that list.

[Cliff Fr]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)

According to an ABC News article about this it was only one bouy that showed the high temperature. All the others in the same area showed temperatures from 90 to 95 degrees. Could be a malfunctioning bouy.

[Two Bills]

That's one I do a fair bit of pondering about. Had a gap of many years between dives in the Keys and was shocked at the pitiful condition of the corals when I returned a couple of years ago. Have since learned that the die-off is due to some kind of bacteria (or pathogen of some type), but which kind has yet to be figured out.

We first lived in Pompano Beach after retirement so that I could shore dive from our condo. Between about Deerfield Beach and Fort Lauderdale there is reef running parallel to the shoreline starting as little as 100 yards off shore and in water as shallow as 11 feet. Comfy water temps of 85-86° in the summer months allows diving without neoprene. But, last summer I noticed that the temp rose to 87° (part of your dive computer info) for a short stretch and much of the coral soon suddenly bleached white. Interestingly, it all completely recovered in fairly short order. Haven't heard what's happening this summer, but I guess lobster mini-season is currently underway. Tiring of eating lobster is partly why we're here. :-)

My main ponderage, though, is whether the extent of coral reef growth will simply move north as ocean temperatures rise. Maybe folks won't have to drive as far for a dive vacation, eh?

There was massive bleaching as well on the Great Barrier Reef, Australia.
That has grown back in great abundance, and recovered.

[Bill14564]

According to an ABC News article about this it was only one bouy that showed the high temperature. All the others in the same area showed temperatures from 90 to 95 degrees. Could be a malfunctioning bouy.

All the buoys in that area show high temperatures peaking on the 24th and 25th. MNBF1 happens to show the highest temperature.

[Golfer222]

They call it global warming in Summer and then in Winter when there are blizzards they change the terminology to climate change. A very "convenient truth"

[Frajiit]

Exactly, what can anyone do about it?

A lot. But nothing that is cheap.

[Cliff Fr]

The unusually hot weather we've been having, which meteorologists say is caused by a shift in the jet stream?
It is the surface temperature of the water that's being measured by the bouys.

[bcsnave]

The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

[Marsha11]

I truly do not have an ounce of concern over the elimination of fossil issues, according to Sekich, the activist and I want no power the the new bill in DC to eliminate this temp in florida to minnesota. This does not help anyone.

[Frajiit]

The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

Normal water temperatures for the area this time of year should be between 73F and 88F (23C and 31C), according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa), not 101. That is all that was reported. 90% of scientists have a theory that explains it. Combine it with melting glaciers, and all the other changes occurring worldwide, and the climate change theory is making reasonably accurate predictions.

[Bill14564]

The MNBF1 buoy is located in 4.9 ft of water according to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. This along with the cove like structure that impede tidal activities the water has a tendency to remain warm in this localized area.

Now bear in mind that even a small pool in TV will heat up without circulation. So the take away here is that one marker in the Ocean at a shallow depth may not be a true indicator or the omission of all of the facts leads to incorrect conclusions.

If a person reports there was a bank heist at Citizens First Bank Lake Sumter Landing. Then they report they saw me in the vicinity of Lake Sumter land at or around the time of the heist, that is part of the story. It certainly falsely implies that I was a suspect in the heist. What was conveniently omitted was, the omission that I live in Lake Sumter Landing.

So let's all breath and get all of the facts to properly assess the drivers that go into reporting.

Guuud DAY!!

Incorrect. 4.9ft is the depth at which the measurement was taken. It is doubtful that anyone would attempt to moor a buoy in less than five feet of water.

The tidal information is given on the buoy data page, it has a tide swing of at least 0.75ft which seems to be typical for that area.

As mentioned in a previous post, all the buoys in that area showed high temperatures peaking on 7/24 and 7/25.

This buoy is not in only 4.9ft of water. This buoy is not in an area with no tidal flow. This was not the only buoy showing peaks, it just happened to be the buoy with the highest peak. One thing we can agree on, it is important to get all the facts.

[Golfer222]

Bottom line- Florida +July = Hot
Bet next month will be hot as well

[Normal]

We are in the average realm, while places like NYC are a little cooler this year. Only 6 days this year so far are above 90 in NYC. Normally NYC gets 15 per summer.

[ThirdOfFive]

EVER? Does that count the time Florida was part of the Atlantic Ocean and Dinosaurs ruled the Earth?

Or just the last 50 years since we've taken the temp with satellites? Or do you mean the last 100 years since we started measuring the ocean with thermometers? Seems like a pretty short "ever"!

Funny, though. Most of the previous "records" seem to be from the 1930's -- before most of the world discovered automobiles and air conditioning, and we started making up names for hurricanes.

Any guesses as to what caused 1932 to be such a hot year? Or how about that giant hurricane that wiped Galveston from the map in 1900 and killed 12,000 people? Was that because the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere exceeded 0.4% from all the horse flatulence before cars were invented?

I have to admit, the level of horse and bull emissions seems to be much higher these days!
Ain't THAT the truth!

[mraines]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)
They've been saying for years we need to do something but no one wants to believe and inconvenience themselves to save the planet.

[mraines]

They call it global warming in Summer and then in Winter when there are blizzards they change the terminology to climate change. A very "convenient truth"
They don't change the terminology, it is all global warming causing extreme weather. The deniers refuse to believe it because it would inconvenience them to change anything in their life.

[LuvNH]

I’ll worry about it when rich liberals stop buying multi-million dollar ocean front properties in Florida.

Really, only rich liberals buy multi million dollar ocean front properties in Florida! Did you forget the Trump family????

[jtongue]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)

Sure it's concerning if it were "true." The article is based on data from a National Parks Service water quality buoy in Manatee Bay. It is located just east of US 1 as you head south to the Keys. There are several science problems with this article and others that have been published - the least of which is that NOAA has not validated the data.

I was a NOAA scientist for over a quarter century and when I first saw this "record" reported by Tony Mainolfi of WESH 2, I knew it was very likely erroneous. Yup, I screamed at the TV! Think about it, for those with pools or go to the pools in the Villages - is the water temperature over 100? Over 95? (Maybe more like 90 for a max.) Thermometers in our cars will register 110 F plus in the summer - but is that valid? "It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”

After looking at a plot of the data - my first thought is that the buoy ran aground or was up-ended and was measuring un-aspirated air temperatures. Marine water temperatures just do not vary 10 F through the day like inland air temperatures do. Also, the "annual record" maximum air temperature from Key West is 97 F (from 1956) - we all know it's cooler by the water.

NDBC - 5-day plot - Water Temperature at MNBF1 (https://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/show_plot.php?station=mnbf1&meas=wtmp&uom=E&time_diff=-4&time_label=EDT)

Current data looks to me like the buoy is back home in the water and reporting "more accurate" data.

Anyway - yes water temperatures are "abnormally" warm:
https://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/cb/ssta/ssta.daily.current.png

But wind shear related to the El Nino / Southern Oscillation (ENSO) is generally more important tropical cyclone intensity.

Speaking of records: My Earth Science textbook from 50 years ago listed the world's record temperature as 136°F on 13 Sept 1922, in Aziziya, Libya. 90 years later, that record was classified as "invalid" by the World Meteorological Society. Just Saying ......

[Bill14564]

Sure it's concerning if it were "true." The article is based on data from a National Parks Service water quality buoy in Manatee Bay. It is located just east of US 1 as you head south to the Keys. There are several science problems with this article and others that have been published - the least of which is that NOAA has not validated the data.

I was a NOAA scientist for over a quarter century and when I first saw this "record" reported by Tony Mainolfi of WESH 2, I knew it was very likely erroneous. Yup, I screamed at the TV! Think about it, for those with pools or go to the pools in the Villages - is the water temperature over 100? Over 95? (Maybe more like 90 for a max.) Thermometers in our cars will register 110 F plus in the summer - but is that valid? "It's what you know for sure that just ain't so.”

After looking at a plot of the data - my first thought is that the buoy ran aground or was up-ended and was measuring un-aspirated air temperatures. Marine water temperatures just do not vary 10 F through the day like inland air temperatures do. Also, the "annual record" maximum air temperature from Key West is 97 F (from 1956) - we all know it's cooler by the water.

...

Current data looks to me like the buoy is back home in the water and reporting "more accurate" data.

......

Do you believe that LBSF1, BWSF1, LSNF1, HCEF1, and DKKF1 also ran aground or were upended? They show the same general curve on the same days as MNBF1 and current data also looks to be "more accurate."

Six sensors showing similar temperature profiles make it look like something is happening other than a single upended buoy.

[crash]

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Who would have ever think the ocean could get to 101F. Who would ever of think that it could be over 110F for over 30 days in a row in El Paseo. Who would have ever think that July the earth would have the highest avg temp ever recorded.

[Blackbird45]

There is a positive side to the warming of water in Fl., in 10 years you'll be able to get boiled lobster directly from the ocean.

[Bill14564]

Do you believe that LBSF1, BWSF1, LSNF1, HCEF1, and DKKF1 also ran aground or were upended? They show the same general curve on the same days as MNBF1 and current data also looks to be "more accurate."

Six sensors showing similar temperature profiles make it look like something is happening other than a single upended buoy.

EDIT: It is interesting to note that on the peak days MNBF1 registered a temperature about six degrees higher than the other buoys. However, today the temperatures are very close. They all would have experienced the same heating and cooling due to the time of day but perhaps something out of the ordinary happened with MNBF1 to cause only that buoy to have the exceptionally high reading.

[maggie1]

Climate change, global cooling, global warming, there is no doubt there is something happening. The question that remains on the table is if man is directly responsible. Now I'm not a scientist, but the majority of the scientist are claiming that we are responsible.
The general public in this country spends billions and billions of dollars on beauty, products, vitamins, hair lose shampoos, you name it they'll buy it with very little evidence that any of them work. Yet here we are confronted with what many said could be a looming disaster and at least once a month it is argued on this site if it is real or if there is anything that can be don't. I myself always side on prevention, especially when it comes to my grandson's future. There are things we can do here, and the global community can add financial pressure on the countries that do not meet a specified standard. Now personally I could state this has no effect on me directly since I do not go out in the noon day sun but come the end of this year, I'm going to have to find a new company for home insurance, since Farmers has decided Fl. is no longer a good bet.

I totally agree with your comment. It hasn't been that long ago when we discovered the depletion in the ozone layer was caused by chlorofluorocarbons, and by eliminating these man-made substances (I believe the coolant in air conditioners being one of the more problematic causes) the ozone layer has mostly repaired itself, thus reducing the number of victims from skin cancer. We can poo poo the weather being caused by mankind all we want, but I'll have to agree with the weather experts that we are in the midst of global warming and the cause is us.

[Chitown]

I am not concerned in the least

[Normal]

I agree that there isn’t a consensus on the cause of “climate change”. Many hypotheses are unproven for now. The things we cannot change like the Earth’s orbit, El Niño, brightening of the sun and the axis tilts are the only sure events for the planet. Meanwhile we can just conserve on our own while technology develops into something usable.

[forebubba]

You just don't understand we're in a 9 year cooling trend.
Sarcasm at its best.....I hope

[amexsbow]

Climate change, the new religion. Remember "The coming Ice Age", "Global Warming", and now a rebranded "Climate Change." It is like many political admonitions when proven wrong, change the rhetoric. Meanwhile climate is being used for political purposes while the devastation and human suffering in third world countries supply the "new miracle cures". Solar and wind power production, and electric vehicles are being forced on the world population while the elected and unelected leaders pollute with abandon and buy "carbon credits" to offset their lifestyle and convenience. What a joke. But it is on us. Wake up and smell the roses.

[Regorp]

Hot in Florida in July- who woulda thunk it ?

Moved to Florida for the hot weather and she delivers. Would rather swim in a warm bathtub, than an ice cold pool.

[maistocars]

I remember 35 years ago the water in Sanibel Island was 95 degrees. This has been going on for decades and centuries. But we seem to always have folks who won't delve into the actual facts of historical water temps and find it is nothing new. As a poster indicated above, the readings at any given FL body of water is currently in the low 80s.

[Nellmack]

I am not concerned in the least

I think it's funny that Floridians complain about skyrocketing insurance costs on Tuesday and then say I'm not concerned about scary high water temperatures on Wednesday. While next week's conversation will be about a devastating hurricane barreling towards Florida.

It's all tied together folks.... Too many people driving fossil fuel cars / trucks damaging the ozone. It's actually pretty simple.

[bcsnave]

There is a positive side to the warming of water in Fl., in 10 years you'll be able to get boiled lobster directly from the ocean.

Thata' boy:a20:

[bcsnave]

Geological ice ages -- called glacial periods -- are characterised by the development of large ice sheets in the Northern Hemisphere. In the past 700,000 years, phases shifted between distinct glacial and warm periods about every 100,000 years. Before then, however, the Earth's climate was governed by 40,000-year cycles with shorter and weaker glacial periods. The change in the climate cycles occurred in the Middle Pleistocene Transition period, which began approximately 1.2 million years ago and ended about 670,000 years ago.

During this period glaciers were covering North America to where Missouri is today. The ice has been melting and the climate getting warmer for some time (those damn N.A. and their horses and buffalos that are incredibly environmentally destructive with the GHG emissions). But who knew....

[necur]

This is starting to get a little concerning especially with the hurricane season getting ready to ramp up....

Florida just had the hottest recorded ocean temperature. Here’s what that means for the environment (https://www.yahoo.com/news/florida-just-had-the-hottest-recorded-ocean-temperature-heres-what-that-means-for-the-environment-215110797.html)

Highest in 174 years!!!! What was temp on July 27, 1223 or 345,365 BC?

[Bill14564]

Highest in 174 years!!!! What was temp on July 27, 1223 or 345,365 BC?

Umm, both those dates were *slightly* more than 174 years ago and no one was recording temps in the Florida area at that time.

[Frajiit]

I prefer to think about it this way. f I am wrong, our grandkids get a cleaner planet to enjoy. If deniers are wrong, our grandkids get to live in a horrible world.

I prefer the former outcome and will be happy to apologize to my decendents for leaving a better place for them to live.

[maggie1]

I prefer to think about it this way. f I am wrong, our grandkids get a cleaner planet to enjoy. If deniers are wrong, our grandkids get to live in a horrible world.

I prefer the former outcome and will be happy to apologize to my decendents for leaving a better place for them to live.

Oooo, yeah - I wish I had said that, and I'm serious.

[metalic]

What would you suggest we do about it?

Yes, if only someone, somewhere, would publish information on how we can all help tackle climate change.

Until then I guess I'll have to stick my head in the sand.

[Frajiit]

Yes, if only someone, somewhere, would publish information on how we can all help tackle climate change.

Until then I guess I'll have to stick my head in the sand.

Pretty sure this was sarcasm, but I couldn't find the post you were answering, so...

What you can do to help (https://www.theenvironmentexcuse.org/?utm_source=search&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=EE-2023&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIr4-TqZeygAMVQKRaBR25JA7iEAAYAyAAEgInCfD_BwE#food)