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JGibson
07-31-2023, 08:08 AM
For those in a CYV with the water shut off outside in front of house under a lawn cover what tool or did you design a tool that makes it so you don't have to get on your hands and knees on the rocks to turn off the valve.

Or do they sell a long tool that fits on that odd valve handle? It looks like a rectangular nub.

Also anyone who had a water shut off installed in garage what did you pay and who did you use?

Bill14564
07-31-2023, 08:14 AM
For those in a CYV with the water shut off outside in front of house under a lawn cover what tool or did you design a tool that makes it so you don't have to get on your hands and knees on the rocks to turn off the valve.

Or do they sell a long tool that fits on that odd valve handle? It looks like a rectangular nub.

Also anyone who had a water shut off installed in garage what did you pay and who did you use?


It sounds like you are looking for a tool to manipulate the shutoff valve intended to be used by the utility company and not the homeowner.

Are you sure there isn't already a shutoff in your garage?

retiredguy123
07-31-2023, 08:19 AM
Here is a tool available from Lowes.

Access Denied (https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=water+shutoff+tool)

Keefelane66
07-31-2023, 09:06 AM
Ours has a plastic access panel in garage below electrical box to access valve

Dusty_Star
07-31-2023, 10:55 AM
Ours has a plastic access panel in garage below electrical box to access valve

It might depend on when the villa was built.

villagetinker
07-31-2023, 11:12 AM
There was a previous thread that indicated many older villas had the owner accessible shut off valve in the lawn (garden) outside of the house, and over the years and possible previous owners became buried. Not sure of an easy way to find this valve, but if you do dig it out, and install some type of cover so you can get to it later.

JGibson
08-01-2023, 07:19 AM
Here is a tool available from Lowes.

Access Denied (https://www.lowes.com/search?searchTerm=water+shutoff+tool)

Thanks, that is what I'm looking for.
What a weird design and location for the water shutoff.

I will look into having a water shutoff valve installed in garage as this is not a ideal location and it being exposed to the elements will probably shorten it's life span.

Thanks again.

star20166@yahoo.com
08-02-2023, 04:32 AM
There is a shut off in your garage. Look for it and you will find it. No need to do anything out in front. It will be white pvc and will turn off with a 1/4 turn. PVC weakens in heat and over time to be gentle with it or you will have a water emergency.

retiredguy123
08-02-2023, 04:43 AM
There is a shut off in your garage. Look for it and you will find it. No need to do anything out in front. It will be white pvc and will turn off with a 1/4 turn. PVC weakens in heat and over time to be gentle with it or you will have a water emergency.
Not necessarily. There was a previous thread where the OP did an extensive search and there was no shut off valve in the garage. The building code requires a shut off valve where the water line enters the house, but it does not need to be located inside the house.

retiredguy123
08-02-2023, 04:52 AM
There is a shut off in your garage. Look for it and you will find it. No need to do anything out in front. It will be white pvc and will turn off with a 1/4 turn. PVC weakens in heat and over time to be gentle with it or you will have a water emergency.
If you have a PVC shut off valve, I agree that you should be careful when turning it off. Here is a tool that I have, in the 3/4 inch size, that protects the valve and makes it very easy to operate. Also, you should test the valve and not wait until an emergency to try to turn it off.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09JB8W8P5/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1)

Gail simon
08-02-2023, 05:11 AM
I already had an emergency for 800 $. I need a water leak detector that can be used for a courtyard villa-the meter is underground. Flume has been recommended, but where is it installed? You are correct about pcv pipe.

Sandy and Ed
08-02-2023, 05:18 AM
There is a shut off in your garage. Look for it and you will find it. No need to do anything out in front. It will be white pvc and will turn off with a 1/4 turn. PVC weakens in heat and over time to be gentle with it or you will have a water emergency.
AND very difficult to turn. We had a plumber replace pvc valve with brass and a “normal” lever in our Pennecamp CYV. Also had all push/pull valves replaced at same time. Cost a couple hundred.

stratmax
08-02-2023, 05:26 AM
Lowes, home depot & Ace all have the tool that allows you to shutoff the water at the meter.
It's about $13

retiredguy123
08-02-2023, 05:43 AM
I already had an emergency for 800 $. I need a water leak detector that can be used for a courtyard villa-the meter is underground. Flume has been recommended, but where is it installed? You are correct about pcv pipe.
The Flume 2 device straps onto your water meter with no plumbing installation required. There is also a plug in unit inside your house, and the system operates with your wifi and an app on your smart phone. It will detect leaks, but it will not automatically shut off the water.

I have about 8 battery operated water detectors in my house located on the floor under toilets, sinks, refrigerator, washer, and water heater. These will sound an alarm similar to a smoke detector when there is a leak. You can buy them on Amazon for about 10 dollars each. It is an easy and cheap way to go. You just set the unit on the floor or in a sink cabinet.

Bill14564
08-02-2023, 06:35 AM
The Flume 2 device straps onto your water meter with no plumbing installation required. There is also a plug in unit inside your house, and the system operates with your wifi and an app on your smart phone. It will detect leaks, but it will not automatically shut off the water.

I have about 8 battery operated water detectors in my house located on the floor under toilets, sinks, refrigerator, washer, and water heater. These will sound an alarm similar to a smoke detector when there is a leak. You can buy them on Amazon for about 10 dollars each. It is an easy and cheap way to go. You just set the unit on the floor or in a sink cabinet.

INCORRECT-> (I believe it straps on the water line, preferably near the meter, but not onto the meter itself.)

CORRECT -> I was surprised to learn that it does strap to the meter itself. Now I need to learn more about how it actually works.

The Flume device is about six inches long. I believe I have enough space in my meter box but I haven't dug the ten years of grime out of it to see for sure.

Do you know if the water company has a policy about customers placing the Flume device in the meter box?

retiredguy123
08-02-2023, 06:41 AM
I believe it straps on the water line, preferably near the meter, but not onto the meter itself.

The Flume device is about six inches long. I believe I have enough space in my meter box but I haven't dug the ten years of grime out of it to see for sure.

Do you know if the water company has a policy about customers placing the Flume device in the meter box?
Watch the video on the Amazon website for the Flume 2. It looks to me like the guy is strapping the Flume device directly onto a water meter. I don't know if there are any restrictions by the water company.

https://www.amazon.com/Flume-Smart-Water-Monitor-Detector/dp/B08DX6MP8X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2TT76DTQEFUU4&keywords=flume+2+smart+home+water+monitor&qid=1690976262&sprefix=Flume+2%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-3

Bill14564
08-02-2023, 07:00 AM
Watch the video on the Amazon website for the Flume 2. It looks to me like the guy is strapping the Flume device directly onto a water meter. I don't know if there are any restrictions by the water company.

Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/Flume-Smart-Water-Monitor-Detector/dp/B08DX6MP8X/ref=sr_1_3?crid=2TT76DTQEFUU4&keywords=flume+2+smart+home+water+monitor&qid=1690976262&sprefix=Flume+2%2Caps%2C242&sr=8-3)

I corrected my post. Thank you. That was not at all what I understood from the Flume documentation. Obviously, I need to read it more closely.

dlebuis
08-02-2023, 07:54 AM
We have older villa with water shutoff in ground out front. We got tool from Lowe’s to more easily turn it off. We did have a plumber put a water filtration system in our house which is located in garage. They put a water turn off valve there. Very easy to turn water off from there.

JGibson
08-02-2023, 08:27 AM
Definitely no valve in garage as the plumber who installed my hot water heater turned the water off outside under ground panel.

I would like to replace those pop out valves under sinks and toilets as that seems like it would be the culprit of a water leak.

neilbcox
08-02-2023, 10:05 AM
We live in Newell. Email me if you want to use it…n1829vanbeck@gmail.com.

jamorela
08-02-2023, 04:55 PM
For those in a CYV with the water shut off outside in front of house under a lawn cover what tool or did you design a tool that makes it so you don't have to get on your hands and knees on the rocks to turn off the valve.

Or do they sell a long tool that fits on that odd valve handle? It looks like a rectangular nub.

Also anyone who had a water shut off installed in garage what did you pay and who did you use?

I had a plumber move mine to the front of my garage. They would not go through my poured concrete wall.

jamorela
08-02-2023, 04:57 PM
There is a shut off in your garage. Look for it and you will find it. No need to do anything out in front. It will be white pvc and will turn off with a 1/4 turn. PVC weakens in heat and over time to be gentle with it or you will have a water emergency.

There is not one in some courtyard villas. This has been discussed previously.

rogerk
08-03-2023, 10:05 AM
For those in a CYV with the water shut off outside in front of house under a lawn cover what tool or did you design a tool that makes it so you don't have to get on your hands and knees on the rocks to turn off the valve.

Or do they sell a long tool that fits on that odd valve handle? It looks like a rectangular nub.

Also anyone who had a water shut off installed in garage what did you pay and who did you use?
Contact the Warranty Department. They can tell you where the water shutoff is located in your specific home.