Wired network made easy in your home

[rsmurano]

Most of the houses built in the villages are not setup to build a robust network. Most if not all of the Villages homes are built so a network provider comes in, plops their modem/router where a coax cable is and everything in your house is run off of WiFi are much reduced speeds.

Also, most of the newer homes, the builder used cat5/cat6 cable to wire a landline 4-wire ports to many of your rooms. Also, most rooms have coax cable ports which are only good for satellite TV, or cable TV and 1 of these ports is used For Xfinity/Spectrum internet. If you are using Dish or Directtv, you can't use MoCa.

The best internal network you can build out inside your home is using a wired connection. To do this, you can re-terminate all the cat 5/cat6 landline wires to ethernet 4-pair connections (I did this myself with a few tools and testers). The other method is to use your RG5 coax cables as ethernet cables. This can be accomplished by implementing a MoCa network that involves devices you hook up to the coax cable and an ethernet cable coming out the other end of the device. These devices provide up to 2.5Gb speeds which is 2x the speed of a normal 1Gb local network.

So the home owner has multiple options to build out a speedy in house network using a few network components. You will still need a mesh network, maybe a few switches, but then you can get almost 1Gb speeds throughout your house.
BTW: the geek squad, galaxy home solutions, or any of your ISP's will NOT know how to accomplish this, speak to a knowledgeable network tech.

[BrianL99]

Most of the houses built in the villages are not setup to build a robust network. Most if not all of the Villages homes are built so a network provider comes in, plops their modem/router where a coax cable is and everything in your house is run off of WiFi are much reduced speeds.

Also, most of the newer homes, the builder used cat5/cat6 cable to wire a landline 4-wire ports to many of your rooms. Also, most rooms have coax cable ports which are only good for satellite TV, or cable TV and 1 of these ports is used For Xfinity/Spectrum internet.

The best internal network you can build out inside your home is using a wired connection. To do this, you can re-terminate all the cat 5/cat6 landline wires to ethernet 4-pair connections (I did this myself with a few tools and testers). The other method is to use your RG5 coax cables as ethernet cables. This can be accomplished by implementing a MoCa network that involves devices you hook up to the coax cable and an ethernet cable coming out the other end of the device. These devices provide up to 2.5Gb speeds which is 2x the speed of a normal 1Gb local network.

So the home owner has multiple options to build out a speedy in house network using a few network components. You will still need a mesh network, maybe a few switches, but then you can get almost 1Gb speeds throughout your house.
BTW: the geek squad, galaxy home solutions, or any of your ISP's will know how to accomplish this, speak to a knowledgeable network tech.

That's like changing all the water pipes in your house to 4" pipe, but your connection to the water supply on the street is still 1". BFD.

[PoolBrews]

I have 1GB service coming in and use a Netgear Orbi mesh system that provides speeds in excess of 750MB wirelessly to everything in my home. I have nothing that would take advantage of faster speeds than this, and I doubt that anyone in The Villages does either.

[Maker]

I have xfinity 1.2 gig bps, with most things wired via MoCA between rooms, or the upgraded cat5 line connections. Incredible speed and never a drop out.
Wireless channels are very crowded with such a high density of houses. If you stream, and see stutters, it could be your wireless.
Don't forget a MoCA blocker on incoming coax, or you could back feed your internet connection to neighbors.
The xfinity modem has MoCA built in too.

[Bill14564]

Why would I need speeds above 20Mbps much less above 700Mbps?

I believe Xfinity upgraded me to 75Mbps on their side and internally I use their modem with WiFi. I stream television and music and use the internet with no problems at all. Never have I had a buffering issue that wasn't related to a problem on the Xfinity side.

Just for fun I connected my old WiFi router to see what improvements I might get. It has a longer range (into the garage) but I didn't notice any increase in wireless speed. Since the speed I am getting now is sufficient for my needs, the router is back in the box.

Note: Certain gaming platforms or large data manipulations could certainly benefit from higher speeds. If I ever use one of those then I might consider spending more money.

[Cybersprings]

I just don't get people some times....like this post. Someone posts a very helpful and accurate ( I had already done what the OP outlined) article on how to improve things in your home if the location of your modem is not optimal for you or if your wireless is not giving you what you would like. So, people have to post sarcastic "why would I want that" posts or posts suggesting the OP was inaccurate. If you are knowledgable about networks already or you have no issues, move right along, as this post doesn't help you. If you are having issues or would like to move your modem or router, it is great info, although many non-techies may need more info. Why do you need to post a response to everything, especially those things that you apparently are not knowledgable about?

[Cybersprings]

Why would I need speeds above 20Mbps much less above 700Mbps?

I believe Xfinity upgraded me to 75Mbps on their side and internally I use their modem with WiFi. I stream television and music and use the internet with no problems at all. Never have I had a buffering issue that wasn't related to a problem on the Xfinity side.

Just for fun I connected my old WiFi router to see what improvements I might get. It has a longer range (into the garage) but I didn't notice any increase in wireless speed. Since the speed I am getting now is sufficient for my needs, the router is back in the box.

Note: Certain gaming platforms or large data manipulations could certainly benefit from higher speeds. If I ever use one of those then I might consider spending more money.

No one was speaking to you directly, and we do not wander around your house, so we cannot answer why you would need more. But for those who have multiple cameras, several people streaming at once, or many other reasons, they do have needs greater than 20mbs. And the OP was providing you an easy way to get the speeds for which you pay (for whatever reason you choose to pay for it) with your existing wiring (mostly) not trying to get you to upgrade to 700 mbs.

[Cybersprings]

That's like changing all the water pipes in your house to 4" pipe, but your connection to the water supply on the street is still 1". BFD.

Do you understand the concept and use of a LAN? I have significantly more data going within my house than I do going over the WAN. So passing large video files from cameras to NATs within the LAN can greatly benefit from 2-1/2 times the speed. I think if people are going to be snarky, they should try to know what they are talking about.

[Cybersprings]

I have 1GB service coming in and use a Netgear Orbi mesh system that provides speeds in excess of 750MB wirelessly to everything in my home. I have nothing that would take advantage of faster speeds than this, and I doubt that anyone in The Villages does either.

And you would be wrong.

[Cybersprings]

Most of the houses built in the villages are not setup to build a robust network. Most if not all of the Villages homes are built so a network provider comes in, plops their modem/router where a coax cable is and everything in your house is run off of WiFi are much reduced speeds.

Also, most of the newer homes, the builder used cat5/cat6 cable to wire a landline 4-wire ports to many of your rooms. Also, most rooms have coax cable ports which are only good for satellite TV, or cable TV and 1 of these ports is used For Xfinity/Spectrum internet.

The best internal network you can build out inside your home is using a wired connection. To do this, you can re-terminate all the cat 5/cat6 landline wires to ethernet 4-pair connections (I did this myself with a few tools and testers). The other method is to use your RG5 coax cables as ethernet cables. This can be accomplished by implementing a MoCa network that involves devices you hook up to the coax cable and an ethernet cable coming out the other end of the device. These devices provide up to 2.5Gb speeds which is 2x the speed of a normal 1Gb local network.

So the home owner has multiple options to build out a speedy in house network using a few network components. You will still need a mesh network, maybe a few switches, but then you can get almost 1Gb speeds throughout your house.
BTW: the geek squad, galaxy home solutions, or any of your ISP's will know how to accomplish this, speak to a knowledgeable network tech.

Thank you for your very helpful post. Many people struggle with their internal networks and wifi drops (especially if they do not have very good wireless routers/APs. Try not to pay attention to the people who have nothing better to do with their time than to try to denigrate or undercut people who are trying to be helpful and are completely wrong.

[Bilyclub]

We have a winner. Must have really struck a nerve.

[GpaVader]

I've already done this as well. While I have a robust WiFi network, for streaming, nothing beats a hard line. Since WiFi is a shared service I can keep my WiFi to the locations I don't have a LAN connection and they WiFi will have more.... If you only do one thing at a time....

[Bill14564]

No one was speaking to you directly, and we do not wander around your house, so we cannot answer why you would need more. But for those who have multiple cameras, several people streaming at once, or many other reasons, they do have needs greater than 20mbs. And the OP was providing you an easy way to get the speeds for which you pay (for whatever reason you choose to pay for it) with your existing wiring (mostly) not trying to get you to upgrade to 700 mbs.

Of course no one was speaking to me directly; if they were then they would use something other than a public forum. Since they *did* use the public forum they must have been speaking to any of the members who have an interest in the topic. I am a member, I have an interest, and so I asked a question.

Before I go and purchase the equipment to wire my house I would like to know why I might need it. It is far too easy to advertise/promote services and products on here that the average person just doesn't need. If I have a question about why I would need this then you can be sure many others on here have that same question. Before any of us go out and spend the money it makes sense to find out why it is necessary.

You shouldn't need to wander around my house to explain why I need more bandwidth. Two televisions streaming, multiple smart devices, only one camera, and two or three tablets/laptops using the internet simultaneously doesn't tax the 75Mbps WAN / Xfinity Wifi LAN setup I have. If more bandwidth is needed then it is for an application or a device or a pattern of usage beyond that. What is it that some of us might choose to utilize in the future that would require that extra bandwidth and additional equipment.

Multiple cameras streaming to the cloud might be an answer - some of us might do that. Multiple cameras streaming to an in-home NAS could also be an answer though I imagine fewer would have the NAS. Some gaming systems would be a hobby that some would have and could use the bandwidth.

Before I need to know what equipment to buy to get 1.2Gb bandwidth to my bedroom I need to know why that bandwidth is important to me.

[Altavia]

I don't understand why the builder still wires the ports for landline telephone.

A couple of sites for estimating needed speed;

How Much Internet Speed Do You Need? - Consumer Reports (https://www.consumerreports.org/internet/how-much-internet-speed-do-you-need-a1714131782/)

What internet speed do I need? Here's how many Mbps is enough | Tom's Guide (https://www.tomsguide.com/us/internet-speed-what-you-need,news-24289.html)

[Cybersprings]

We have a winner. Must have really struck a nerve.

Yep. As I explained. Not sure why people have tear down posts from people being helpful. Addressed each one, plus a general comment to that effect, and a thank you to the OP. The 5 posts must have hit a nerve also.

[buzzy]

We have a winner. Must have really struck a nerve.

Where do you get those post counts?

[shut the front door]

Yep. As I explained. Not sure why people have tear down posts from people being helpful. Addressed each one, plus a general comment to that effect, and a thank you to the OP. The 5 posts must have hit a nerve also.

To appear superior to others or to pad their post count.
I found this post very helpful. Just need someone to do the work for me!

[Keefelane66]

Where do you get those post counts?
Click on new form post, find thread then click on replies it will open a list of users and count number

[BrianL99]

Do you understand the concept and use of a LAN? I have significantly more data going within my house than I do going over the WAN. So passing large video files from cameras to NATs within the LAN can greatly benefit from 2-1/2 times the speed. I think if people are going to be snarky, they should try to know what they are talking about.

Oh, but I do.

I suspect the person who's posted 5 or 6 times in this thread already, has some need to make it seem like he's an expert ... even when expertise isn't really needed.

Unless of course, he's actually contracted to NSA and is helping keep us safe, by monitoring China and Russia. In that case, thanks for your service.

[huge-pigeons]

Oh, but I do.

I suspect the person who's posted 5 or 6 times in this thread already, has some need to make it seem like he's an expert ... even when expertise isn't really needed.

Unless of course, he's actually contracted to NSA and is helping keep us safe, by monitoring China and Russia. In that case, thanks for your service.

I don’t think you do. Most people don’t know the difference between a lan/wan/dmz.
I’m posting this thread because for the years I have lived here, there have been many posts about people having issues with their networks. And yes, it does take expertise to setup a network, much more than xfinity or the geek squad to come in and place a router in 1 location and think you’re done. Far from it.
Most people don’t know how to tell what kind of networking speeds they are getting from room to room, or possibly no connection at all say to your lanai or garage or outside. Most people will hire the geek squad to setup their network and the geek squad has no clue what they are doing.
I’m trying to help people by adding to this thread by stating there are options to create a better network and your house might already have some of this hardware already in place. Cybersprings and others are doing the same thing.

[Bill14564]

I don’t think you do. Most people don’t know the difference between a lan/wan/dmz.
I posted this thread because for the years I have lived here, there have been many posts about people having issues with their networks. And yes, it does take expertise to setup a network, much more than xfinity or the geek squad to come in and place a router in 1 location and think you’re done. Far from it.
Most people don’t know how to tell what kind of networking speeds they are getting from room to room, or possibly no connection at all say to your lanai or garage or outside. Again, most people will hire the geek squad to setup their network and the geek squad has no clue what they are doing.
I was trying to help people by stating there are options to create a better network and your house might already have some of this hardware already in place. Cybersprings was doing the same thing.

Interesting use of the word "I" when this is the first post by huge-pigeons in this thread. Gives the impression you might be posting under two user names.

[PoolBrews]

And you would be wrong.

I wasn't saying the additional speed isn't cool, just trying to understand why you need that much speed. I spent a good portion of my life designing and implementing high speed networks for large corporations. Many times the backbone was set up at 10GBps, and my last project was at 100GBbps. But that was for a corporation with hundreds of IT folks on it and over a thousand servers communicating on it.

I don't know of any ISP's that offer more than 1GBps incoming, so trying to understand what having 2.5GBps wired offers that can't be handled with ease over 750MBps wireless. A mesh system, set up properly will provide coverage over the entire home and yard.

[Cybersprings]

I wasn't saying the additional speed isn't cool, just trying to understand why you need that much speed. I spent a good portion of my life designing and implementing high speed networks for large corporations. Many times the backbone was set up at 10GBps, and my last project was at 100GBbps. But that was for a corporation with hundreds of IT folks on it and over a thousand servers communicating on it.

I don't know of any ISP's that offer more than 1GBps incoming, so trying to understand what having 2.5GBps wired offers that can't be handled with ease over 750MBps wireless. A mesh system, set up properly will provide coverage over the entire home and yard.

A backup of terrabytes of data from one computer to a Local NAS over the LAN takes much less time and and rarely fails over a very fast wired LAN as opposed to a wireless mesh network.

Also, replacing the phone jacks with Cat 6 jacks is substantially cheaper than a good wireless mesh router system.

[Cybersprings]

Of course no one was speaking to me directly; if they were then they would use something other than a public forum. Since they *did* use the public forum they must have been speaking to any of the members who have an interest in the topic. I am a member, I have an interest, and so I asked a question.

Before I go and purchase the equipment to wire my house I would like to know why I might need it. It is far too easy to advertise/promote services and products on here that the average person just doesn't need. If I have a question about why I would need this then you can be sure many others on here have that same question. Before any of us go out and spend the money it makes sense to find out why it is necessary.

You shouldn't need to wander around my house to explain why I need more bandwidth. Two televisions streaming, multiple smart devices, only one camera, and two or three tablets/laptops using the internet simultaneously doesn't tax the 75Mbps WAN / Xfinity Wifi LAN setup I have. If more bandwidth is needed then it is for an application or a device or a pattern of usage beyond that. What is it that some of us might choose to utilize in the future that would require that extra bandwidth and additional equipment.

Multiple cameras streaming to the cloud might be an answer - some of us might do that. Multiple cameras streaming to an in-home NAS could also be an answer though I imagine fewer would have the NAS. Some gaming systems would be a hobby that some would have and could use the bandwidth.

Before I need to know what equipment to buy to get 1.2Gb bandwidth to my bedroom I need to know why that bandwidth is important to me.

Someone tried to offer a cheap and easy way to improve network speeds in our homes. Your question "Why would I need speeds above 20Mbps much less above 700Mbps?" did not convey a sincere question regarding why anyone would need speeds in excess of 20Mbs but rather discounting the persons information. And they merely shared what you could achieve with the cheap and easy solution, they did not in any way try to convince anyone that they needed that.

If you don't need more speed or reliability for your home network, then the article wasn't for you and you don't need to buy or do anything. His post was not a sales pitch, it was a public service post.

It took me a couple years before I paid any attention to the wire hooked up to the phone patch panel in the cabinet in my garage and realized it was cat 5e/6 which allowed me to do what the OP had suggested and I bet many people on here wouldn't even know that there was a simple upgrade solution much cheaper than an expensive mesh system available to them even if they saw the wiring(because that is not their thing).

[Cybersprings]

Oh, but I do.

I suspect the person who's posted 5 or 6 times in this thread already, has some need to make it seem like he's an expert ... even when expertise isn't really needed.

Unless of course, he's actually contracted to NSA and is helping keep us safe, by monitoring China and Russia. In that case, thanks for your service.



I am not a networking expert nor have I ever played one on TV. But I have set up some networks. Apparently it does take some expertise to understand a LAN or you would not have posted the following. That statement indicates you don't know the difference between a WAN and a LAN or you are trying to intentionally mislead people. The comment about contracting to NSA seems like a veiled attempt to provide your own credentials but may in fact indicate why you made the post below.

That's like changing all the water pipes in your house to 4" pipe, but your connection to the water supply on the street is still 1". BFD.

[Bill14564]

I am not a networking expert nor have I ever played one on TV. But I have set up some networks. Apparently it does take some expertise to understand a LAN or you would not have posted the following. That statement indicates you don't know the difference between a WAN and a LAN or you are trying to intentionally mislead people. The comment about contracting to NSA seems like a veiled attempt to provide your own credentials but may in fact indicate why you made the post below.

Actually, as someone who has played a networking expert on TV, that statement made quite a bit of sense.

Perhaps your confusion is related to the way you intend to make use of your network and bandwidth. (This is related to my question which you have discounted/ignored twice) If the intent is to do high volume downloads to multiple devices then the pipe to the street (the WAN) had better be larger than the sum of the pipes in the house (the LAN) or there will be problems. On the other hand, if the intent is to do high volume transfers within the home (LAN) but not out to the internet (WAN) then the pipe to the street doesn't need to be that large.

So the question remains: What things might a homeowner plan to do that would require the high bandwidth? The answer to that will drive how much pipe to the street is needed and how big the pipes in the house need to be.

[Cybersprings]

Actually, as someone who has played a networking expert on TV, that statement made quite a bit of sense.

Perhaps your confusion is related to the way you intend to make use of your network and bandwidth. (This is related to my question which you have discounted/ignored twice) If you intent is to do high volume downloads to multiple devices then the pipe to the street (your WAN) had better be larger than the sum of the pipes in your house (your LAN) or you will have problems. On the other hand, if your intent is to do high volume transfers within your home (LAN) but not out to the internet (WAN) then the pipe to the street doesn't need to be that large.

So the question remains: What is it that you plan to do that requires the high bandwidth? The answer to that will drive how much pipe to the street you need and how big the pipes in your house need to be.

Do you understand the concept and use of a LAN? I have significantly more data going within my house than I do going over the WAN. So passing large video files from cameras to NATs within the LAN can greatly benefit from 2-1/2 times the speed. I think if people are going to be snarky, they should try to know what they are talking about.

A backup of terrabytes of data from one computer to a Local NAS over the LAN takes much less time and and rarely fails over a very fast wired LAN as opposed to a wireless mesh network.

Also, replacing the phone jacks with Cat 6 jacks is substantially cheaper than a good wireless mesh router system.

Apparently it is you who are ignoring my posts. I answered your question before you even asked it and after. And I am not confused about anything. Everything is working wonderful for me with a very high speed LAN passing lots of data INTERNALLLy (LAN) and sufficiently for that which I am posting to the cloud. And that is because I had previously set up my LAN as described by the OP.

Maybe you could start over and say thanks to the OP for his helpful post and stop trying to win some sort of snarkiness battle.

[Bill14564]

Apparently it is you who are ignoring my posts. I answered your question before you even asked it and after. And I am not confused about anything. Everything is working wonderful for me with a very high speed LAN passing lots of data INTERNALLLy (LAN) and sufficiently for that which I am posting to the cloud. And that is because I had previously set up my LAN as described by the OP.

Maybe you could start over and say thanks to the OP for his helpful post and stop trying to win some sort of snarkiness battle.

I modified my post to make it clear I don't really care what you have in your home except as one example. The question is what might a homeowner plan to do that would require the high bandwidth? That's a good question for someone to ask before they spend money on upgrades. Your application is one answer - great. There may be other answers as well.

I tried to help you to understand why the particular statement from BrianL99 actually made sense. You're welcome. You seemed confused since you tried to use his statement to discredit him. I don't know him so maybe he doesn't know the difference between a LAN and a WAN but based on his analogy to water pipes he seems to have a pretty good grasp of things.

Are we in a snarkiness battle?

[Cybersprings]

I modified my post to make it clear I don't really care what you have in your home except as one example. The question is what might a homeowner plan to do that would require the high bandwidth? That's a good question for someone to ask before they spend money on upgrades. Your application is one answer - great. There may be other answers as well.

I tried to help you to understand why the particular statement from BrianL99 actually made sense. You're welcome. You seemed confused since you tried to use his statement to discredit him. I don't know him so maybe he doesn't know the difference between a LAN and a WAN but based on his analogy to water pipes he seems to have a pretty good grasp of things.

Are we in a snarkiness battle?


The water pipe example does make sense to explain how bandwidth works for LAN and WAN. And it also showed that he was only considering WAN and not considering that there are a myriad of uses of a LAN for local traffic (incomplete grasp of networks and their usage). And he ended his post with an expletive abbreviation emphasizing his point that was clearly wrong. It is a BFD for some people to have bandwidth on their LAN that exceeds their WAN bandwidth.

Maybe we should try this. Point out 1 single thing that the OP got wrong that warranted all the people trying to point out that it is pointless (and demonstrate that they either don't understand or don't have a complete grasp).

[Bill14564]

The water pipe example does make sense to explain how bandwidth works for LAN and WAN. And it also showed that he was only considering WAN and not considering that there are a myriad of uses of a LAN for local traffic (incomplete grasp of networks and their usage). And he ended his post with an expletive abbreviation emphasizing his point that was clearly wrong. It is a BFD for some people to have bandwidth on their LAN that exceeds their WAN bandwidth.

Maybe we should try this. Point out 1 single thing that the OP got wrong that warranted all the people trying to point out that it is pointless (and demonstrate that they either don't understand or don't have a complete grasp).

We seem to have a completely different view on these posts. There is a considerable amount of negativity but it seems to be coming from a single source and is not directed at the OP.

The OP posted a solution, great. I don't recall one reply that suggested the OP's solution was wrong. The way I read them, most of the responses said they already used that solution, said they had an alternate solution, or my post asked about examples of the problems that might need the solution.

Too many people are quick to purchase a solution (new roof, whole house water filter, reverse mortgage) just because it was presented. There should be nothing wrong with asking what problem the solution is intended to solve - more people ought to be doing that.

To the water pipe analogy: If that poster was shortsighted in not considering a LAN-only requirement then neglecting to consider a LAN/WAN requirement and criticizing that poster is just as shortsighted.

[buzzy]

We have a winner. Must have really struck a nerve.

Click on new form post, find thread then click on replies it will open a list of users and count number

Thanks

[Maker]

Why put in a higher speed WAN link?
To be able to search your cloud file storage for a file with some specific contents in it.
To work from home where large files are accessed often.
To backup your computers to the cloud, or restore a block of files; without taking forever.
Improved latency.
Multiple things running at the same time without saturating the link.
You also get a faster upload speed.
Running interactive apps that benefit from having faster speeds.
So you can laugh at clueless naive people about why their slow links are great, and translating that great knowledge into why their golf carts that only go 1mph are also just fine for them.

Why put in higher speed wired links?
Reliability.
Lower cost.
Easy to do.
Performance.
Future proof the growth of technology.
Don't need to reboot wires often.

If a 20mbps WAN download speed works for someone, then that's great. It won't perform well for many others. Even the current standard definition for "high speed internet" is being raised from 25 to 100mbps.

[jrref]

I'm glad this topic came up. I consider myself a near expert when it comes to networking since i'm an electrical engineer that spent 30 years in IT.

When I came to the Villages I purchased a home in Osceola Hills built circa 2016-2017. I quickly saw that I had fiber installed to my home and many cat5 cable drops run across my home. Coming from Verizon FiOS in NY I was very excited until I discovered that all the cat 5 cable was run to the kitchen and the bedrooms as telephone wire and the one place where I wanted a cat 5 run, to my Smart TV in my living room was not there. Only cable TV wire was there.

What to do?

1) What many don't realize is with current wifi mesh systems you can get more bandwidth than you will ever need with a 1GB internet feed. Remember most of us are retired two occupant familys living here in the Villages which is different than when we were younger with kids living at home using up a lot of bandwidth. That said, there are different types of mesh networks. Google, and others costing a couple hundred dollars will work well but these will not give you up to 1GB speed wirelessly. Orbi for example is on the other extreeme that will give you close to 1GB wifi speeds but is way more expensive. As many have commented everyone doesn't need 1GB speeds but if you want this you need to understand what you are purchasing. Everyone has different needs but most don't need 1GB internet speeds which is why Quantum Fiber now offers 200 MB speeds, bi-directional for $30/month, no contract, no tax. Also remember if you get cable internet 1GB service you get 1GB download and about 30MB upload and you are sharing the bandwidth with all your neighbors.

2) If you are like me and want the best possible internet to certain devices like my computer and Smart TV wether I need it or not you can use the cat 5 wire to any of your rooms which have them available and or like the OP stated use a MOCA adapter. In my situation I have the Quantum Fiber Smart NID in my data cabinet in the garage with my Orbi Router installed on a wall mount. I have direct cat 5 wire to one of my bedrooms converted to an office for my computers and have a ScreenBeam 7250 Moca Adaptor from the garage data cabinet to my Smart TV in the living room via the installed but not used coax cable to get full 1GB speed there. Everywhere else I use my Orbi mesh wifi wirelessly. I also put the Quantum Fiber Smart NID (fiber terminator and router) into Bypass mode so my Orbi Router is controlling everything. System works great.

So by using the MOCA adaptor I saved mysef the work and expense of running another cat 5 cable from the garage to the living room via tha attic. In my house this can be done but it's not easy.

The only other thing I want to mention is if you can get Quantum Fiber they offer two speeds, 200Mbs for $30 and 1GB for $70. The 1GB service includes their 360 wifi mesh network with is the Plume Mesh system for free and occasionally they will offer the 360 wifi for free with their 200 Mbs service when they run a sale. My friend in Fenney got the 200 Mbs service with the free 360 wifi recently and it works very well. Way better than I ever expected.

I'm a little surprised that Galaxy Home Solutions isn't aware of some of the more innovative ways to get "wired" internet to rooms in older homes but I'm sure they will run cat 5 or 6 any where you want it. The question is depending on your situation do you really need full wired speeds everywhere or will a good mesh wifi network do the job for you.

[Dusty_Star]

Thanks RSMurano for a very helpful post.

[rsmurano]

Thanks. Thanks for your replies cybersprings and jrref. Isn’t it very odd that people try to put other people down or squash any info that could help many people in TV?
If you go thru the forums the past few years, you see a common theme: people have slow networks, networks that can’t see devices in your lanai, in your garage, or outside where your grill is.
For some viewers here that try to squash helpful info, did I mention anything about external network speeds? No I did not. What I wrote will create an internal network inside your home to be able to handle your current network needs (whatever they are) and for the near future. If you knew about MoCa splitters or devices, the current versions support 2.5Gb which means when you setup a MoCa network, the accumulated bandwidth passing thru this 1 device can handle up to 2.5Gb.

Mesh networks can be a great way to implement an internal network, but only if you follow certain standards/guidelines. Old mesh networks have many limitations compared to the newer releases. For example, my mesh network provides wifi6e capabilities which means better coverage, faster speeds, and the most important to me was using 6e as the dedicated backhaul from mesh to mesh device.
Let me explain things that hurt wifi network speeds and coverages. If your wifi devices are behind walls, floors, ceilings, your performance will suffer, same goes for your coverage. When I 1st created my network in our house here, I didn’t get a good signal outside where my grill is not in my garage.

So here’s what I did in my house and could be a blueprint for anybody to create their own network too. I have stated this in prior network threads for the last couple of years but I can repeat it here.
Galaxy wires new homes using cat5/6 cabling for landline phones in each of the bedrooms. So I bought the tools and testers to rewire these connections for Ethernet, this required each room with the 4-wire outlets to be re-wired for the 8-wire rg45 connectors, same goes for the wires in the garage network panel and the cat5/6 wire in the kitchen above the cabinets was wired with rg45. I then placed my network switch in the garage network panel to allow all Ethernet cables to be connected.
So I have the 1200Mb xfinity network to the outside and I had xfinity put their router/modem where it would be beneficial to me for wired devices, I use my own mesh network so I didn’t care about the xfinity router for wifi coverage. I modified the xfinity router configuration to my criteria from doing networks for work and for friends for decades.

I have the latest version of mesh networks that provide wifi6e capability. The biggest boost for this mesh network to work at its peak was to use a wired connection to the primary mesh device and then use the 6e backhaul to the other mesh devices. Most people will use wifi to setup multiple routers (wireless bridge mode) and the speed coming into the 2nd/3rd routers is already compromised. I’m getting ready to put a 3rd mesh device in and I will be using a MoCa connection so I will be getting 1G speed to this remote mesh device, then it will broadcast wifi from that point which will strengthen the connections and speeds.

At each location where the mesh devices are located, I hook up a 1G switch so all my internet devices are connects by wire which gives much better throughput with very low latency. It’s not all about speed, it’s about the quality of the connections/coverage and the latency.

So why do all this, easy to define. My whole house is automated: garage doors, cameras, all external door locks, lights, streaming multiple TV’s and hi res audio, doorbell/camera, backup all computers/phones/tablets to a central server, my thermostat, refrigerator, stove/oven, roomba vacuum, and the outside grill are all connected, and more. I can adjust the temperature on the inside oven and the outside grill or can tell what temperature the food is at anywhere in the world. I stream music from my cars to my home server so I can play hundreds of thousands songs that I like in any order with better quality than Sirius/Xm, and I save $20+ each months.

No ISP (spectrum, xfinity for example), no geek squad, no computer store down the street will be able to do this type of work, it’s only people that can think outside of the box and have some networking experience behind them that could put something like this together, so my goal was to kickstart your creation of a robust internal network.

This is just the basics too, you do need to know what a wan/lan/DMZ/vlan is, 2.4/5ghz networks (most devices to automate your home operate on the 2.4ghz network btw), bridged networks, mesh networks, 802.11a/b/g/ac/ax, and the new wifi6e technology.

Instead of trying to squash helpful info that myself and the few others tried to do in this post, try to embrace it. Doing a mesh, wired, or MoCa network that provides great throughout with very low latency, doesn’t cost much more than a network that will provide you poor coverage, poor speeds, and no room to grow in the future.

[Freehiker]

I ran CAT6 throughout and put in 3 AP’s (inside, lanai, garage) for best coverage. I’ve got multiple cameras, NVR, PC’s, NAS…etc. Everything works very well.

[laboutj]

Thanks. Thanks for your replies cybersprings and jrref. Isn’t it very odd that people try to put other people down or squash any info that could help many people in TV?
If you go thru the forums the past few years, you see a common theme: people have slow networks, networks that can’t see devices in your lanai, in your garage, or outside where your grill is.
For some viewers here that try to squash helpful info, did I mention anything about external network speeds? No I did not. What I wrote will create an internal network inside your home to be able to handle your current network needs (whatever they are) and for the near future. If you knew about MoCa splitters or devices, the current versions support 2.5Gb which means when you setup a MoCa network, the accumulated bandwidth passing thru this 1 device can handle up to 2.5Gb.

Mesh networks can be a great way to implement an internal network, but only if you follow certain standards/guidelines. Old mesh networks have many limitations compared to the newer releases. For example, my mesh network provides wifi6e capabilities which means better coverage, faster speeds, and the most important to me was using 6e as the dedicated backhaul from mesh to mesh device.
Let me explain things that hurt wifi network speeds and coverages. If your wifi devices are behind walls, floors, ceilings, your performance will suffer, same goes for your coverage. When I 1st created my network in our house here, I didn’t get a good signal outside where my grill is not in my garage.

So here’s what I did in my house and could be a blueprint for anybody to create their own network too. I have stated this in prior network threads for the last couple of years but I can repeat it here.
Galaxy wires new homes using cat5/6 cabling for landline phones in each of the bedrooms. So I bought the tools and testers to rewire these connections for Ethernet, this required each room with the 4-wire outlets to be re-wired for the 8-wire rg45 connectors, same goes for the wires in the garage network panel and the cat5/6 wire in the kitchen above the cabinets was wired with rg45. I then placed my network switch in the garage network panel to allow all Ethernet cables to be connected.
So I have the 1200Mb xfinity network to the outside and I had xfinity put their router/modem where it would be beneficial to me for wired devices, I use my own mesh network so I didn’t care about the xfinity router for wifi coverage. I modified the xfinity router configuration to my criteria from doing networks for work and for friends for decades.

I have the latest version of mesh networks that provide wifi6e capability. The biggest boost for this mesh network to work at its peak was to use a wired connection to the primary mesh device and then use the 6e backhaul to the other mesh devices. Most people will use wifi to setup multiple routers (wireless bridge mode) and the speed coming into the 2nd/3rd routers is already compromised. I’m getting ready to put a 3rd mesh device in and I will be using a MoCa connection so I will be getting 1G speed to this remote mesh device, then it will broadcast wifi from that point which will strengthen the connections and speeds.

At each location where the mesh devices are located, I hook up a 1G switch so all my internet devices are connects by wire which gives much better throughput with very low latency. It’s not all about speed, it’s about the quality of the connections/coverage and the latency.

So why do all this, easy to define. My whole house is automated: garage doors, cameras, all external door locks, lights, streaming multiple TV’s and hi res audio, doorbell/camera, backup all computers/phones/tablets to a central server, my thermostat, refrigerator, stove/oven, roomba vacuum, and the outside grill are all connected, and more. I can adjust the temperature on the inside oven and the outside grill or can tell what temperature the food is at anywhere in the world. I stream music from my cars to my home server so I can play hundreds of thousands songs that I like in any order with better quality than Sirius/Xm, and I save $20+ each months.

No ISP (spectrum, xfinity for example), no geek squad, no computer store down the street will be able to do this type of work, it’s only people that can think outside of the box and have some networking experience behind them that could put something like this together, so my goal was to kickstart your creation of a robust internal network.

This is just the basics too, you do need to know what a wan/lan/DMZ/vlan is, 2.4/5ghz networks (most devices to automate your home operate on the 2.4ghz network btw), bridged networks, mesh networks, 802.11a/b/g/ac/ax, and the new wifi6e technology.

Instead of trying to squash helpful info that myself and the few others tried to do in this post, try to embrace it. Doing a mesh, wired, or MoCa network that provides great throughout with very low latency, doesn’t cost much more than a network that will provide you poor coverage, poor speeds, and no room to grow in the future.

What brand do you have for your mesh network?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I ran CAT6 throughout and put in 3 AP’s (inside, lanai, garage) for best coverage. I’ve got multiple cameras, NVR, PC’s, NAS…etc. Everything works very well.

Similar setup:

I have a cable modem for the incoming signal, a gigabyte NAT router with two wired ports, one direct to the TV for streaming, the other to the gigabyte switch for wired outlets and the wireless access point. All rooms have an ethernet plugs next to the coax outlet, for different TV or desk locations, but the added piece is each TV location has two gang outlets (4 plug outlets) added to handle any added devices. Lanai has one ethernet outlet and a 4 gang outlet, no tv yet.

Single wireless access point on the ceiling in the middle of the house. . wifi has password, hard wired does not. . cameras wireless and occasional dropped signals. . meh. . mostly storm related

requires two standard size wiring closets to get everything in. Home surge protector AND surge protector strip in the wiring closet included BUT missing is UPS on the cable model/router/switch. . haven't figured out how to get that into the closet without being ugly. ..

everyone has different needs, the house is a rental and renters have asked for high speed for work related access. .

all houses are customized to the owners' desires, and all owners are different, i am pretty sure those that are judgmental of other people's spending desires on speed or network design or anything else in others' houses are too judgmental by nature, and should just be mentally noted and ignored (no posted response)

[jrref]

What brand do you have for your mesh network?

If you want the best get an Orbi. It's the most expensive but will last the longest.