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Bossman
08-06-2023, 09:54 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-06-2023, 09:58 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Most restaurants have outdoor areas, where leashed dogs that stay beside their owner or under the table are welcome.

Most diners would be happy to know that you make use of those outdoor areas.

Also remember that "allow" is not the same as "welcome."

JMintzer
08-06-2023, 11:58 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Prepare for "differring" opinions on dogs at restaurants...

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Byte1
08-06-2023, 12:45 PM
Hopefully, none of them "welcome" dogs inside. I love dogs, but I don't believe they belong where folks eat, just like I don't believe they should be allowed in grocery stores. Of course, like everything else there are exceptions to those type of rules, ie. guide dogs for the blind.

Altavia
08-06-2023, 01:48 PM
FL - Restaurant - 509.233. Public food service establishment requirements; local exemption for dogs | Animal Legal & Historical Center (https://www.animallaw.info/statute/fl-restaurant-509233-public-food-service-establishment-requirements-local-exemption-dogs)

Summary: Florida was one of the first states to enact a law on dogs in restaurants in 2006. The law allows a local unit of government to adopt an ordinance that acts as an exemption to the state's Food and Drug Administration Food Code. Once the local exemption is passed, a restaurant can apply for a permit to allow dogs in the outdoor dining spaces. Certain things must be included in the ordinance such as a requirement that staff wash after touching pets, a rule that patrons keep dogs on leashes and under control, a prohibition against dogs on chairs, tables, or other furnishings, signs that list the rules for employees and patrons, and a clean-up station in the outdoor dining area. There are also reporting requirements by the local governments to the State of Florida under the law. The city or county must also have a system in place to document and respond to complaints.

charmed59
08-06-2023, 02:47 PM
I noticed there are signs at Reville in Magnolia plaza and City Fire in Sumter that dogs are not allowed even outside. Before I would assume they all allowed dogs outside, but now I’m not sure which ones do.

LuvNH
08-06-2023, 03:16 PM
Hopefully, none of them "welcome" dogs inside. I love dogs, but I don't believe they belong where folks eat, just like I don't believe they should be allowed in grocery stores. Of course, like everything else there are exceptions to those type of rules, ie. guide dogs for the blind.

I have always had Labs, love dogs, but I will not eat in a restaurant that allows dogs inside. I'm OK with them on the patio, etc., but not inside.


I don't want to see them in stores, especially food stores. I was in Lowes check out line a while ago when the woman in front of me had a very pretty small dog in her cart and it peed through the cart onto the floor and I got splashed, I was beyond PO'd.

However, if you are sight impaired and need a fully professionally trained dog, that is fine with me. If you are in a wheelchair and need a fully trained working dog to help you get through life, I'm fine with that. I have been on cruises and seen dogs trained to support PTS and Wounded Warriors patients and I have no problem with that.

But I have no time for people with "comfort" dogs that insist on taking them everywhere.

retiredguy123
08-06-2023, 03:26 PM
I noticed there are signs at Reville in Magnolia plaza and City Fire in Sumter that dogs are not allowed even outside. Before I would assume they all allowed dogs outside, but now I’m not sure which ones do.
Are you sure the signs say that dogs are not allowed? I thought that, according to Federal law, service dogs are allowed in any public place. A business can ban pets, but I don't think they can ban service dogs.

blueash
08-06-2023, 03:34 PM
There is more in Florida law than the citation above including: [my bold]

2. Patrons in a designated outdoor area shall be advised that they should wash their hands before eating. Waterless hand sanitizer shall be provided at all tables in the designated outdoor area.

3. Employees and patrons shall be instructed that they shall not allow dogs to come into contact with serving dishes, utensils, tableware, linens, paper products, or any other items involved in food service operations.

4. Patrons shall keep their dogs on a leash at all times and shall keep their dogs under reasonable control.

5. Dogs shall not be allowed on chairs, tables, or other furnishings.

6. All table and chair surfaces shall be cleaned and sanitized with an approved product between seating of patrons. Spilled food and drink shall be removed from the floor or ground between seating of patrons.

Tell me, has anyone here ever seen waterless cleaner on each table in the outdoor area? Didn't think so.

thelegges
08-06-2023, 03:36 PM
Are you sure the signs say that dogs are not allowed? I thought that, according to Federal law, service dogs are allowed in any public place. A business can ban pets, but I don't think they can ban service dogs.

The sign has an exception for Service dogs..

bsloan1960
08-06-2023, 03:37 PM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies
Unless your dog is a Support Animal it has no business ANYWHERE the public gathers to eat. Your love of your dog does not change the fact that animals are not allowed in eateries for good reason.

thelegges
08-06-2023, 03:39 PM
Duplicate post

thelegges
08-06-2023, 03:42 PM
Unless your dog is a Support Animal it has no business ANYWHERE the public gathers to eat. Your love of your dog does not change the fact that animals are not allowed in eateries for good reason.

Service Dogs YES…support animals don’t need to be in a business, and can be denied entry if owner so chooses.

Miboater
08-06-2023, 04:36 PM
We have a dog and have never taken her to a regular restaurant but I do know they allow them on the patio at World of Beer in Brownwood. I think they even have or had a few meals for dogs.

We do take our dog to Edna's on the Green and have lunch every once in a while. We bring our own chairs and try to sit away from people as we know not everyone is happy to have dogs around where they eat.

retiredguy123
08-06-2023, 05:04 PM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies
OP, here is the truth. Even if a restaurant allows dogs, you will not make a lot of friends by bringing a dog to a restaurant in The Villages. And, restaurants that technically do not allow non-service dogs, will be reluctant to question you about the dog because the Federal ADA law is very limited about enforcing the "service" dog rules, and they are afraid of being sued. So, if you don't care about what people think, you can take the dog anywhere you want and, if someone asks, just say that your dog is a service animal, and it won't make any difference what their rules are.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-06-2023, 06:06 PM
OP, here is the truth. Even if a restaurant allows dogs, you will not make a lot of friends by bringing a dog to a restaurant in The Villages. And, restaurants that technically do not allow non-service dogs, will be reluctant to question you about the dog because the Federal ADA law is very limited about enforcing the "service" dog rules, and they are afraid of being sued. So, if you don't care about what people think, you can take the dog anywhere you want and, if someone asks, just say that your dog is a service animal, and it won't make any difference what their rules are.

It does make a difference. It absolutely makes one. Even bonafide legitimate service animals have to abide by the standards of the establishment. Generally speaking, here they are:

"Four on the floor." No animals in carts, carriages, strollers.
6' or shorter non-retractable leash.
Must heel, and remain heeled or reclining but alert at the diner's side, and not blocking the aisles.
Must be quiet.
Owner must -not- allow anyone to pet the dog.

If the animal is not "on duty" then it doesn't belong in the building.

I had lunch at Ay Jalisco many months ago. A woman with an extra-long retractable leash had her little yipper special weshul woofie poochie with her, yipping and woofing around her ankles and through the short fence of the patio area. She wanted to come in and eat. The waitress came out and told her - service animals only. The woman said he's a service animal. The waitress said great - when she returns with her service animal on a shorter, non-retractable leash, and heels rather than jumps around the fence, and sits quietly by her side, then she and her dog will be welcome. Til then - "service animals only."

I gave the waitress an extra tip and thanked her for taking charge of the situation like a boss. Turns out it was a relative of the boss. Gotta love family businesses. They take the best care of their customers.

JMintzer
08-06-2023, 06:24 PM
OP, here is the truth. Even if a restaurant allows dogs, you will not make a lot of friends by bringing a dog to a restaurant in The Villages. And, restaurants that technically do not allow non-service dogs, will be reluctant to question you about the dog because the Federal ADA law is very limited about enforcing the "service" dog rules, and they are afraid of being sued. So, if you don't care about what people think, you can take the dog anywhere you want and, if someone asks, just say that your dog is a service animal, and it won't make any difference what their rules are.

"The Truth"? More like "Your Opinion"...

We've been to several outside seating areas in TV Squares with our dog. We always ask the hostess first if it's okay. If they say no, fine. We go somewhere else. No big deal. We've had multiple servers bring over a dog bowl of water... She sits next to my wife, under the table, not bothering anyone.

No one in the immediate area has started sneezing, or has gone into anaphylactic shock. No one has given us a dirty look or sneered at us, nor said anything, other than "cute dog"...

We've also had multiple patrons stop at our table, with a big smile on their face, asking if it would be alright to pet her...

Those are the type of people we've made friends with...

The "truth" is, don't be a jerk with your dog and you'll be fine.

retiredguy123
08-06-2023, 06:46 PM
"The Truth"? More like "Your Opinion"...

We've been to several outside seating areas in TV Squares with our dog. We always ask the hostess first if it's okay. If they say no, fine. We go somewhere else. No big deal. We've had multiple servers bring over a dog bowl of water... She sits next to my wife, under the table, not bothering anyone.

No one in the immediate area has started sneezing, or has gone into anaphylactic shock. No one has given us a dirty look or sneered at us, nor said anything, other than "cute dog"...

We've also had multiple patrons stop at our table, with a big smile on their face, asking if it would be alright to pet her...

Those are the type of people we've made friends with...

The "truth" is, don't be a jerk with your dog and you'll be fine.
Everything I said was the truth.

JMintzer
08-06-2023, 07:25 PM
Everything I said was the truth.

I get it. You just like to disagree with everything I post... Wait, what?

Oh, and everything I posted was also the truth...

mtdjed
08-06-2023, 09:24 PM
OP, here is the truth. Even if a restaurant allows dogs, you will not make a lot of friends by bringing a dog to a restaurant in The Villages. And, restaurants that technically do not allow non-service dogs, will be reluctant to question you about the dog because the Federal ADA law is very limited about enforcing the "service" dog rules, and they are afraid of being sued. So, if you don't care about what people think, you can take the dog anywhere you want and, if someone asks, just say that your dog is a service animal, and it won't make any difference what their rules are.

I like dogs, horses, cows, monkeys and elephants among others. They can be trained but are not trained as we are for eating in or existing in restaurants. Maybe some but not all. Never saw one wipe its butt after a Poo (Unless it is a dog with worms).

Black Beauty
08-07-2023, 05:26 AM
leave the dog at home

LuvNH
08-07-2023, 05:33 AM
leave the dog at home............................

because it is too damned hot in Florida to drag that poor animal everywhere YOU want to go!

birdawg
08-07-2023, 05:41 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggiesleave it home the dog will be happier

Ele201
08-07-2023, 05:41 AM
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because it is too damned hot in Florida to drag that poor animal everywhere YOU want to go!
Now that is using common sense and true compassion for your dog. Giving dogs a “voice.” Thanks.

deputydoc
08-07-2023, 05:43 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Dogs Love staying at home sprawled out on the bed or couch thinking “Ahhh this is life, the whole house to my self”. Quit ruining their day by taking them everywhere

bowlingal
08-07-2023, 05:50 AM
Leave the dog at home. It's still very hot here in October. The pavement can burn their pads. Think of what's best for the animal, NOT for YOU!

Blackbird45
08-07-2023, 05:50 AM
I love animals, especially dogs, I trust them more than I trust people. Many people treat their dogs as if they were their children and I believe this is not only good for the dog but also therapeutic for the owners. But I believe there is a problem if you can’t go to a restaurant and leave your dog home for a couple of hours. I never spent 24/7 with my daughter when she was growing up and I’m sure no parents do. I do understand there are people with special needs that have service dogs and I’m fine with that. About 6 months ago my wife and I were having lunch at Longhorn, we were sitting at a banket and a couple across the way were sitting with a large dog under their table. I was impressed how well behave the dog was, the only time he would raise his head was when someone passed by and every now and then he would look at us. When they were leaving, the couple smiled at us and left, and as far as I could tell neither had special needs. As I look back who I really felt sorry for is the dog. Here was this poor dog sitting in a strange place motionless under a table, strangers walking by while their owners were having a nice meal. Look I don’t care if you bring an elephant into a restaurant, but there should be a good reason behind it.

Sandy and Ed
08-07-2023, 06:05 AM
"The Truth"? More like "Your Opinion"...

We've been to several outside seating areas in TV Squares with our dog. We always ask the hostess first if it's okay. If they say no, fine. We go somewhere else. No big deal. We've had multiple servers bring over a dog bowl of water... She sits next to my wife, under the table, not bothering anyone.

No one in the immediate area has started sneezing, or has gone into anaphylactic shock. No one has given us a dirty look or sneered at us, nor said anything, other than "cute dog"...

We've also had multiple patrons stop at our table, with a big smile on their face, asking if it would be alright to pet her...

Those are the type of people we've made friends with...

The "truth" is, don't be a jerk with your dog and you'll be fine.
Now I like that response. Yeah we have a 17 lb dog who spends most of the day in the house. When we take her out with us sometimes we get a hankering for a meal. We are not going to leave our dog in a hot car while we eat. We go somewhere that has outdoor dining and she sits quietly under the table while we eat. So far we’ve had no problem with this. Probably because she is relatively small, quiet, well behaved and the establishment knows us as frequent customers. Now if we were talking about a Great Dane, pit bull, etc I might understand the concern but a small well behaved dog under a table outside……..? Come on!

donfey
08-07-2023, 06:15 AM
Are you sure the signs say that dogs are not allowed? I thought that, according to Federal law, service dogs are allowed in any public place. A business can ban pets, but I don't think they can ban service dogs.

95 (or more?) percent of the dogs I've seen taken into restaurants and, yes, grocery stores, are NOT service dogs, and should not be allowed. If one can't leave little Fifi home for an hour or two, I think THEY might have a problem.

Chandra10100
08-07-2023, 06:18 AM
Ski Beach in leesburg welcomes pets in the tiki and lakeside seating!

Canada friends
08-07-2023, 06:21 AM
Why do you want to bring your dog to a restaurant in the first place… leave the dog at home!!! Very inconsiderate some people are alergic to animals and I don’t want them near me when I’m eating

Altavia
08-07-2023, 06:21 AM
Now I like that response. Yeah we have a 17 lb dog who spends most of the day in the house. When we take her out with us sometimes we get a hankering for a meal. We are not going to leave our dog in a hot car while we eat. We go somewhere that has outdoor dining and she sits quietly under the table while we eat. So far we’ve had no problem with this. Probably because she is relatively small, quiet, well behaved and the establishment knows us as frequent customers. Now if we were talking about a Great Dane, pit bull, etc I might understand the concern but a small well behaved dog under a table outside……..? Come on!

There are parts of the world where (well behaved) dogs are permitted inside restaurants but children are not - just saying ;-)

daca55
08-07-2023, 06:28 AM
Leave your dog at home when you go out to eat. You can enjoy your dinner without worrying about the dog. Your dog would probably enjoy a quiet night at home and a break from people.

banjobob
08-07-2023, 06:31 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Quick note leave doggie at home when eating out unless you dashboard dineing, Nobody wants a pet to share dinner with inside or outside period.

Fuzzyjourneyfan
08-07-2023, 06:43 AM
I agree that dogs have no place inside restaurants; however, I don't have a problem with them being in an outside eating area. I see dogs at Culver's (outside only) and, so far, all of them have been very well-behaved. I have had many great conversations with the dog owners and enjoy petting the dogs. I wouldn't bring my dog to a restaurant, but I don't have a problem with other people doing it. I have had many meals ruined by screaming children, but none, so far, have been ruined by a dog. Live and let live.

Tommyc6
08-07-2023, 06:51 AM
I don’t want to see dogs panting, scratching, licking their privates etc especially while eating.

LuvNH
08-07-2023, 06:54 AM
There are parts of the world where (well behaved) dogs are permitted inside restaurants but children are not - just saying ;-)

I have been waiting for someone to say this. If the law in a country allows dogs and not children, so be it - their country, their rules. We live in Florida and should be prepared to live by their laws.

wawriwwawriw
08-07-2023, 07:09 AM
IAaw 2022 Florida Statutes (including 2022 Special Session A and 2023 Special Session B): NO. There are exceptions, but in general NO. Some places would ALLOW you to sit outside with your pet.

PersonOfInterest
08-07-2023, 07:19 AM
Unless your dog is a Support Animal it has no business ANYWHERE the public gathers to eat. Your love of your dog does not change the fact that animals are not allowed in eateries for good reason.

What is the 'good reason'?

JWGifford
08-07-2023, 07:25 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies
Cody’s, WOB, Edna’s

Jameson
08-07-2023, 07:29 AM
I love dogs and cats. But I have a family member who is allergic to them. I also have a family member that is scared of dogs after being attacked as a child. Please leave your dog at home where it's safe and comfortable for it and the other people that won't have to tolerate it.

Blackbird45
08-07-2023, 07:29 AM
Now I like that response. Yeah we have a 17 lb dog who spends most of the day in the house. When we take her out with us sometimes we get a hankering for a meal. We are not going to leave our dog in a hot car while we eat. We go somewhere that has outdoor dining and she sits quietly under the table while we eat. So far we’ve had no problem with this. Probably because she is relatively small, quiet, well behaved and the establishment knows us as frequent customers. Now if we were talking about a Great Dane, pit bull, etc I might understand the concern but a small well behaved dog under a table outside……..? Come on!

I commend you, should never leave a dog in a hot car and you also mentioned eating at restaurants with outside dinning. Again no one would fault you for that. I believe the issue is unless it is totally necessary for medical reasons people should not bring their dog into inside dinning. Again, as I stated in an earlier post, for nothing else it is unfair for the dog to sit under a table in a strange place surrounded by stranger eating food. I can’t get into a dog’s mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he's thinking I can’t wait to get the hell out of here.

PersonOfInterest
08-07-2023, 07:30 AM
Now I like that response. Yeah we have a 17 lb dog who spends most of the day in the house. When we take her out with us sometimes we get a hankering for a meal. We are not going to leave our dog in a hot car while we eat. We go somewhere that has outdoor dining and she sits quietly under the table while we eat. So far we’ve had no problem with this. Probably because she is relatively small, quiet, well behaved and the establishment knows us as frequent customers. Now if we were talking about a Great Dane, pit bull, etc I might understand the concern but a small well behaved dog under a table outside……..? Come on!

Allowing your small, well behaved dog under the table opens the opportunity for the larger, misbehaved, unruly dog to be allowed. Most of the problem becomes the Owner's lack of control over the animal.

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 07:32 AM
Hi, I bring my dog to Edna's on the Green, BD Beans in Belleview, Square 1 in Wildwood. I don't eat there, but I've seen them at Darrel's Diner next to Square One, Starbucks. Always outside........ I know a guy got the boot out of Cane Garden last week when he brought little Fluffy inside and plopped him on a seat...... many restaurants with outside seating allow it. Remember this time of year it's too hot to walk them on blacktop down here.

deborahcme
08-07-2023, 07:33 AM
Darrell's Diner (various locations in and around TV) welcomes dogs outside and even provides a stainless steel water dish.

Marmaduke
08-07-2023, 07:35 AM
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because it is too damned hot in Florida to drag that poor animal everywhere YOU want to go!
People from the NE and other cooler states who visit Florida with their pets fail to realize that their dogs peds can burn very easily on our pavements.

People WILL NOT HESITATE to Inform you.
Our pavements get burning hot.
Can you walk on them barefoot?
Neither can your Dog.
It's much, much happier at home.

defrey12
08-07-2023, 07:46 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Sumter County has moved to “Service Animals ONLY” In restaurants as the situation has gotten out of hand. Saw the signs yesterday in Brownwood. Leave fluffy at home where he/she BELONGS!

PersonOfInterest
08-07-2023, 07:51 AM
FL - Restaurant - 509.233. Public food service establishment requirements; local exemption for dogs | Animal Legal & Historical Center (https://www.animallaw.info/statute/fl-restaurant-509233-public-food-service-establishment-requirements-local-exemption-dogs)

Summary: Florida was one of the first states to enact a law on dogs in restaurants in 2006. The law allows a local unit of government to adopt an ordinance that acts as an exemption to the state's Food and Drug Administration Food Code. Once the local exemption is passed, a restaurant can apply for a permit to allow dogs in the outdoor dining spaces. Certain things must be included in the ordinance such as a requirement that staff wash after touching pets, a rule that patrons keep dogs on leashes and under control, a prohibition against dogs on chairs, tables, or other furnishings, signs that list the rules for employees and patrons, and a clean-up station in the outdoor dining area. There are also reporting requirements by the local governments to the State of Florida under the law. The city or county must also have a system in place to document and respond to complaints.

What about a well behaved pet Pig? Does the law pertain to other animals as well?

nordic tug
08-07-2023, 07:52 AM
The barn with the rest of the animals.

Kcarbfaith
08-07-2023, 07:55 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Please leave your dogs at home. For those of us allergic to dogs it's a horrible thing to break out from coming in contact with a surface where a dog has been. Yes. I have seen people place their dog on a chair and even the table!!

RickyLee
08-07-2023, 07:58 AM
"The Truth"? More like "Your Opinion"...

We've been to several outside seating areas in TV Squares with our dog. We always ask the hostess first if it's okay. If they say no, fine. We go somewhere else. No big deal. We've had multiple servers bring over a dog bowl of water... She sits next to my wife, under the table, not bothering anyone.

No one in the immediate area has started sneezing, or has gone into anaphylactic shock. No one has given us a dirty look or sneered at us, nor said anything, other than "cute dog"...

We've also had multiple patrons stop at our table, with a big smile on their face, asking if it would be alright to pet her...

Those are the type of people we've made friends with...

The "truth" is, don't be a jerk with your dog and you'll be fine.

Let me be the first, I am very uncomfortable with animals for pets or any kind in a restaurant, grocery store or anywhere food is being sold or consumed. I would definitely give you the look, finish my meal as quick as possible and get out of there before I say or do something rude. If it's a service animal I understand and respect.
I have many friends that are dog people, I understand that also I have no issues when I go to their house, but it's their house not mine. The same with the restaurant or the grocery, respect other people. I wouldn't come to your house and set it your table and be disrespectful. I get it that you hate me at this point but that's okay I'm good with that, enjoy your pets and I'll keep living life my way. Have a great day

Mrs S
08-07-2023, 08:08 AM
Hopefully, none of them "welcome" dogs inside. I love dogs, but I don't believe they belong where folks eat, just like I don't believe they should be allowed in grocery stores. Of course, like everything else there are exceptions to those type of rules, ie. guide dogs for the blind.

And a guide dog wouldn’t be riding in the cart where we put our food items.

Cybersprings
08-07-2023, 08:40 AM
I'm not really clear on the inside is definitely not appropriate but outside is ok. My wife and I like to eat outside when the weather is nice, and for the exact same reasons the dogs should not be inside, they should not be outside in a eating area. It is also unappetizing inside or out. Please leave your dog at home when going to a restaurant unless there is a separate area for pets and their owners or it is a true service dog.

CosmicTrucker
08-07-2023, 08:43 AM
http://https://g.co/kgs/gSAQMT Darrell's Diner (352) 259-6675

Vermilion Villager
08-07-2023, 08:49 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies
one word.....WHY?:mornincoffee:

OhioBuckeye
08-07-2023, 08:51 AM
I think if I were a dog I would be happier at home instead of lying on hot payment, inside I personally won’t eat there anymore. But it’s the business owners business to let dogs in restaurants. I love dogs but I would never take my pet in a restaurant. It’s a bad habit to start!

DPWM21
08-07-2023, 09:05 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

The ‘Bring Fido’ app, which is free, lists and rates most dog friendly establishments including restaurants.

TomSpasm
08-07-2023, 09:07 AM
Don't listen to all the naysayers on here, feel free to bring your dog to a restaurant with outside seating that allows dogs. You've gotten a few suggestions here, and once you are here, a few phone calls will tell you which restaurants will and won't, or perhaps the app suggested will help. The people who are worried about how hot the pavement is for your dog are sitting inside anyway, trust me. Whatever you do, don't let your dogs poop on anyone's yard without picking it up...that's when posts really get out of control here!

Eagle06
08-07-2023, 09:08 AM
Animals, dogs included, with the Exception of Service Dogs, should not be in any indoor eating establishment. I don't care how much you love your dog.

BrianL99
08-07-2023, 10:00 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

If you ever come to my house, expect that my 70 lb Golden Retriever will want to sit on your lap.

If I see you in a store or restaurant in TV with your dog, expect that I will call you out on the spot and make an issue out of it.

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 10:10 AM
If you ever come to my house, expect that my 70 lb Golden Retriever will want to sit on your lap.

If I see you in a store or restaurant in TV with your dog, expect that I will call you out on the spot and make an issue out of it.

You do know that some stores allow dogs, I suggest you put on your big boy pants and deal with it in those stores.

Lancer
08-07-2023, 10:30 AM
When we turned our fist puppy in for advanced training there was 8 of us with our puppies, year old dogs. We went out for lunch with our dogs. All had been in training for over a year. We went into the restaurant and had our dogs go “under” the table. Under is a command to get under the table. We ordered and ate our meal. Time passed and the rest of the restaurant patrons turned over. When we got up to leave the new group of patrons were shocked when they saw the eight dogs. The dogs were all well behaved. That’s the difference between a trained service dog and one that the owner has bought a vest and the dog doesn’t behave.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-07-2023, 10:37 AM
Why do you want to bring your dog to a restaurant in the first place… leave the dog at home!!! Very inconsiderate some people are alergic to animals and I don’t want them near me when I’m eating

I'm in the group of people who think people should leave their PETS (and "comfort animals") at home. But "because allergies" is not a valid reason. There are people who are allergic to perfumes. Should there be a sign on the window saying "people who wear perfumes are not welcome here?"

How about people who have latex or rubber allergies "Thank you for not wearing rubber soles in our restaurant" signs.

And then there are the people who have pets, and leave their pets at home, but there is pet hair on their clothing. Should they be banned too, to accommodate that one person with the severe allergies?

Nope. Allergies to animal dander is not a valid reason to require restaurants to ban animals. Not to mention that service animals have dander too - and you cannot, by law, forbid them.

retiredguy123
08-07-2023, 10:42 AM
When we turned our fist puppy in for advanced training there was 8 of us with our puppies, year old dogs. We went out for lunch with our dogs. All had been in training for over a year. We went into the restaurant and had our dogs go “under” the table. Under is a command to get under the table. We ordered and ate our meal. Time passed and the rest of the restaurant patrons turned over. When we got up to leave the new group of patrons were shocked when they saw the eight dogs. The dogs were all well behaved. That’s the difference between a trained service dog and one that the owner has bought a vest and the dog doesn’t behave.
Unfortunately, the Federal law doesn't require any advanced training or a vest for service dogs. You can train the dog yourself.

Rainger99
08-07-2023, 10:58 AM
Dog-friendly dining and what's required of restaurants, staff, patrons (https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/local/2023/04/28/dog-friendly-dining-and-whats-required-of-restaurants-staff-patrons/70147442007/)

BrianL99
08-07-2023, 11:00 AM
You do know that some stores allow dogs, I suggest you put on your big boy pants and deal with it in those stores.

I always wear big boy pants, which is why I'm not afraid to call out anyone whose public behavior isn't socially acceptable to ME. That includes people with dogs that aren't supposed to be in stores, to people who bring their screaming kids to restaurants, stores and airplanes.

Anyone's right to be an insufferable buffoon, ends when it interferes with my personal space.

bioman419
08-07-2023, 11:08 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Leave it home. We don't need "your little dog" in our faces while we dine.

JSR22
08-07-2023, 11:18 AM
You do know that some stores allow dogs, I suggest you put on your big boy pants and deal with it in those stores.

A keyboard bully. Ignore him.

Bill14564
08-07-2023, 11:25 AM
Leave it home. We don't need "your little dog" in our faces while we dine.

Do you regularly eat off the floor? Otherwise, how could the little dog under the table be in your face?

Bill14564
08-07-2023, 11:27 AM
My meal has been ruined by babies, children, and rude adults many more times than by dogs. Can we pass some laws against those?

Arletti
08-07-2023, 11:32 AM
Google this: “Dog friendly restaurants in the villages” for a list. Dog friendly means well behaved dogs are allowed on the patio. Only (real) service dogs are allowed inside, and they are allowed inside everywhere.
Don’t pay any attention to people at the bar hassling you about your dog when you take it to a dog friendly restaurant. Not only do they not have their facts straight, they’re just not nice, and probably drink too much.

Bwanajim
08-07-2023, 11:47 AM
Geez. I swear this page and others here, is starting to sound like a bunch of grumpy old people.🙄 I don’t like leaving my dog in the house all day. If I want to take her out and eat at outside patio at a restaurant and they’re OK with it then I’m fine with it. If you don’t like it go eat somewhere else. My Catahoula, is 18 months old and very well trained. If I tell her to sit and stay, she will. I’ve actually gotten many compliments from people on how well she behaves.

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 12:33 PM
Anyone's right to be an insufferable buffoon, ends when it interferes with my personal space.

LOL, I love the irony here.

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 12:35 PM
A keyboard bully. Ignore him.

I would have but his response was so funny I couldn't.

asianthree
08-07-2023, 12:37 PM
Friday at Disney, witnessed a small group of 5 Service Dogs, with very young handlers.

All had harness vest Service Dog in training, do not pet, leash 1.5’. ALL Had booties on to protect their feet. Not one dog paid attention to anything, other than the commands from their handlers.

Brought back memories when we would go shopping in downtown Rochester, MI..Long time home to Leader Dog for the Blind. You would see a dozen or so dogs in various training aspects, in shops, restaurants, and the local breweries. In those days, if you saw a dog in a business it was a service dog.

We are considering taking on a new puppy for first year Service training. We will be the people with a well trained pup under a table, walking beside us at Disney, proudly wearing booties to protect their feet. And NO one can’t touch the dog. Groceries will be our hardest issue, but will take advice from group leader. It’s heartbreaking year knowing you will give up that puppy, but heartwarming to know what a service you are doing for an unknown veteran

Byte1
08-07-2023, 12:40 PM
And a guide dog wouldn’t be riding in the cart where we put our food items.

Did you misunderstand my post? I don't believe that I mentioned or insinuated that dogs should be in a grocery store, let alone in a cart where food items are carried.

Dusty_Star
08-07-2023, 01:08 PM
Please ignore all the grumpy folks telling you to leave your dog home. They are not representative, which is probably why they are so persistent.

birdawg
08-07-2023, 01:21 PM
There are parts of the world where (well behaved) dogs are permitted inside restaurants but children are not - just saying ;-)there are parts of the world where they eat dogs

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 01:25 PM
Please ignore all the grumpy folks telling you to leave your dog home. They are not representative, which is probably why they are so persistent.

At this point he's probably rethinking moving to TV with all the leave the dog home replies.

Fenster
08-07-2023, 01:41 PM
No one wants to eat near your dog.

There is no legitimate need for you to take your dog to a restaurant. Unless you are handicapped.

JSR22
08-07-2023, 01:51 PM
No one wants to eat near your dog.

There is no legitimate need for you to take your dog to a restaurant. Unless you are handicapped.

That's your opinion. I will continue to take my 12-pound dog to restaurants that permit them to be outside. He prefers being with us then staying home alone. I don't get why anti dog people would move to a pet friendly development.

Cybersprings
08-07-2023, 02:17 PM
Please ignore all the grumpy folks telling you to leave your dog home. They are not representative, which is probably why they are so persistent.

No please ignore the inconsiderate people who don't care about anyone but themselves.

airstreamingypsy
08-07-2023, 02:44 PM
No one wants to eat near your dog.

There is no legitimate need for you to take your dog to a restaurant. Unless you are handicapped.

Just eat inside, I'll eat outside with my dog. He likes to come with me, when I go places, and I like him happy.

CFrance
08-07-2023, 02:45 PM
If you ever come to my house, expect that my 70 lb Golden Retriever will want to sit on your lap.

If I see you in a store or restaurant in TV with your dog, expect that I will call you out on the spot and make an issue out of it.
We left our 80-lb Golden Retriever at home both in Florida and France. In Florida it is too hot and he was definitely more comfortable at home in the a/c. In France they don't care. Inside or out, they're fine, pretty much throughout Europe. But the rooms are smaller, the tables closer together, and he didn't fit!

So read the room--er--the dog. I don't care about the people. If the restaurant permits it and your dog is well behaved/cool enough/small enough to be comfortable, go for it. People who don't like it can sit inside or go elsewhere.

Our present dog only goes to an outdoor burger joint on a river. She doesn't bother anyone, but she's doesn't have that plop-down-and-settle mentality.

Marsha11
08-07-2023, 02:49 PM
It's very interesting. If you bring in a dog, must be on floor not table or chair. And, the another dog comes in and the two go crazy
It's awefull

CoachKandSportsguy
08-07-2023, 02:49 PM
Please ignore all the grumpy folks telling you to leave your dog home. They are not representative, which is probably why they are so persistent.

LOL! the grumpy folks want the entitled and self appointed rules are for thee people who think that their dog and their opinion of where dogs can go beyond the rules, should follow the rules and not pretend that dogs are people or entitled to people status. .

dadcat
08-07-2023, 02:58 PM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Do us all a favor and keep you dog at home when you eat out.

Bill14564
08-07-2023, 03:08 PM
Who is acting more entitled: The dog owner who asks where he can take his dog or the Villager who says forget the rules, leave the dog at home?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:32 PM
............................

because it is too damned hot in Florida to drag that poor animal everywhere YOU want to go!

Who said "everywhere"?

And what about when it's cooler?

If the wife and I are out for a golf cart ride (one of our dog's favorite things to do) and we decide to stop for a bite, is that "dragging that poor animal everywhere I want to go"?

I feel I need a ruling on this...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:35 PM
Dogs Love staying at home sprawled out on the bed or couch thinking “Ahhh this is life, the whole house to my self”. Quit ruining their day by taking them everywhere

Odd, our dog gets anxious when we leave her home alone...

Bogie Shooter
08-07-2023, 03:36 PM
Who said "everywhere"?

And what about when it's cooler?

If the wife and I are out for a golf cart ride (one of our dog's favorite things to do) and we decide to stop for a bite, is that "dragging that poor animal everywhere I want to go"?

I feel I need a ruling on this...

Proceed as you wish, my son…………

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:40 PM
I love animals, especially dogs, I trust them more than I trust people. Many people treat their dogs as if they were their children and I believe this is not only good for the dog but also therapeutic for the owners. But I believe there is a problem if you can’t go to a restaurant and leave your dog home for a couple of hours. I never spent 24/7 with my daughter when she was growing up and I’m sure no parents do. I do understand there are people with special needs that have service dogs and I’m fine with that. About 6 months ago my wife and I were having lunch at Longhorn, we were sitting at a banket and a couple across the way were sitting with a large dog under their table. I was impressed how well behave the dog was, the only time he would raise his head was when someone passed by and every now and then he would look at us. When they were leaving, the couple smiled at us and left, and as far as I could tell neither had special needs. As I look back who I really felt sorry for is the dog. Here was this poor dog sitting in a strange place motionless under a table, strangers walking by while their owners were having a nice meal. Look I don’t care if you bring an elephant into a restaurant, but there should be a good reason behind it.

Why do you think that bringing a dog to an outside restaurant (on occasion) equates to carting them around 24/7?

And why do you think that "poor dog" was unhappy, sitting quietly with it's owners?

Maybe that's what makes the dog happy...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:43 PM
Ski Beach in leesburg welcomes pets in the tiki and lakeside seating!

Thanks for the tip!

I've been meaning to go there. And now, they are definitely on my "to go" list...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:47 PM
Why do you want to bring your dog to a restaurant in the first place… leave the dog at home!!! Very inconsiderate some people are alergic to animals and I don’t want them near me when I’m eating

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JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:49 PM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

Was I lying when I said "expect differing opinions"? ;)

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:50 PM
Quick note leave doggie at home when eating out unless you dashboard dineing, Nobody wants a pet to share dinner with inside or outside period.

Nobody? I beg to differ...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:51 PM
I agree that dogs have no place inside restaurants; however, I don't have a problem with them being in an outside eating area. I see dogs at Culver's (outside only) and, so far, all of them have been very well-behaved. I have had many great conversations with the dog owners and enjoy petting the dogs. I wouldn't bring my dog to a restaurant, but I don't have a problem with other people doing it. I have had many meals ruined by screaming children, but none, so far, have been ruined by a dog. Live and let live.

I'm sorry... But common sense has no place in this thread...:D

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:52 PM
I don’t want to see dogs panting, scratching, licking their privates etc especially while eating.

Don't look...

I don't want to see people chewing with their mouths open. I don't seek them out...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:53 PM
I have been waiting for someone to say this. If the law in a country allows dogs and not children, so be it - their country, their rules. We live in Florida and should be prepared to live by their laws.

And there are laws that allow pets in outside eating areas...

But is seems there are many who are not prepared to live with that...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 03:57 PM
I love dogs and cats. But I have a family member who is allergic to them. I also have a family member that is scared of dogs after being attacked as a child. Please leave your dog at home where it's safe and comfortable for it and the other people that won't have to tolerate it.

Allergic to dogs that are outside, with zero contact? I doubt it...

As for being scared, what do they do if a dog passes them on the street?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:00 PM
I commend you, should never leave a dog in a hot car and you also mentioned eating at restaurants with outside dinning. Again no one would fault you for that. I believe the issue is unless it is totally necessary for medical reasons people should not bring their dog into inside dinning. Again, as I stated in an earlier post, for nothing else it is unfair for the dog to sit under a table in a strange place surrounded by stranger eating food. I can’t get into a dog’s mind, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he's thinking I can’t wait to get the hell out of here.

There are MANY who are finding fault with that...

And I don't think ANYONE is condoning bringing pets to inside dining...

And you're right, you can't get into someone else's dog's mind. But I do know my dog. I know when she is stressed. And it's not curled up at my wife's feet at an outdoor restaurant...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:04 PM
Allowing your small, well behaved dog under the table opens the opportunity for the larger, misbehaved, unruly dog to be allowed. Most of the problem becomes the Owner's lack of control over the animal.

Allowing small, well behaved children opens the opportunity for larger misbehaved, unruly children... Most of the problem becomes that parent's lack of control over their children...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:06 PM
Hi, I bring my dog to Edna's on the Green, BD Beans in Belleview, Square 1 in Wildwood. I don't eat there, but I've seen them at Darrel's Diner next to Square One, Starbucks. Always outside........ I know a guy got the boot out of Cane Garden last week when he brought little Fluffy inside and plopped him on a seat...... many restaurants with outside seating allow it. Remember this time of year it's too hot to walk them on blacktop down here.

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JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:07 PM
Darrell's Diner (various locations in and around TV) welcomes dogs outside and even provides a stainless steel water dish.

Yup. VERY dog friendly.

Funny, I've yet to see anyone break out in a sneezing fit just because they were in the proximity of those dogs...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:12 PM
People from the NE and other cooler states who visit Florida with their pets fail to realize that their dogs peds can burn very easily on our pavements.

People WILL NOT HESITATE to Inform you.
Our pavements get burning hot.
Can you walk on them barefoot?
Neither can your Dog.
It's much, much happier at home.

Asphalt gets hot up north, too... We know not to take our pets out when it's too hot...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:15 PM
Please leave your dogs at home. For those of us allergic to dogs it's a horrible thing to break out from coming in contact with a surface where a dog has been. Yes. I have seen people place their dog on a chair and even the table!!

I'm sure that would be horrible... IF it ever happened...

Tommyc6
08-07-2023, 04:15 PM
Don't look...

I don't want to see people chewing with their mouths open. I don't seek them out...

Such words of wisdom.

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:16 PM
Let me be the first, I am very uncomfortable with animals for pets or any kind in a restaurant, grocery store or anywhere food is being sold or consumed. I would definitely give you the look, finish my meal as quick as possible and get out of there before I say or do something rude. If it's a service animal I understand and respect.
I have many friends that are dog people, I understand that also I have no issues when I go to their house, but it's their house not mine. The same with the restaurant or the grocery, respect other people. I wouldn't come to your house and set it your table and be disrespectful. I get it that you hate me at this point but that's okay I'm good with that, enjoy your pets and I'll keep living life my way. Have a great day

No one hates you...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:19 PM
And a guide dog wouldn’t be riding in the cart where we put our food items.

This thread is about dog friendly restaurants...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:20 PM
one word.....WHY?:mornincoffee:

Really? The question is confusing?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:22 PM
Don't listen to all the naysayers on here, feel free to bring your dog to a restaurant with outside seating that allows dogs. You've gotten a few suggestions here, and once you are here, a few phone calls will tell you which restaurants will and won't, or perhaps the app suggested will help. The people who are worried about how hot the pavement is for your dog are sitting inside anyway, trust me. Whatever you do, don't let your dogs poop on anyone's yard without picking it up...that's when posts really get out of control here!

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JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:22 PM
Animals, dogs included, with the Exception of Service Dogs, should not be in any indoor eating establishment. I don't care how much you love your dog.

Good thing we're taking about OUTSIDE eating areas...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:24 PM
If you ever come to my house, expect that my 70 lb Golden Retriever will want to sit on your lap.

If I see you in a store or restaurant in TV with your dog, expect that I will call you out on the spot and make an issue out of it.

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:26 PM
I'm in the group of people who think people should leave their PETS (and "comfort animals") at home. But "because allergies" is not a valid reason. There are people who are allergic to perfumes. Should there be a sign on the window saying "people who wear perfumes are not welcome here?"

How about people who have latex or rubber allergies "Thank you for not wearing rubber soles in our restaurant" signs.

And then there are the people who have pets, and leave their pets at home, but there is pet hair on their clothing. Should they be banned too, to accommodate that one person with the severe allergies?

Nope. Allergies to animal dander is not a valid reason to require restaurants to ban animals. Not to mention that service animals have dander too - and you cannot, by law, forbid them.

Holy Crap! Hell just froze over!!!

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:27 PM
I always wear big boy pants, which is why I'm not afraid to call out anyone whose public behavior isn't socially acceptable to ME. That includes people with dogs that aren't supposed to be in stores, to people who bring their screaming kids to restaurants, stores and airplanes.

Anyone's right to be an insufferable buffoon, ends when it interferes with my personal space.

That goes both ways... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:29 PM
Leave it home. We don't need "your little dog" in our faces while we dine.

By "We", One can only assume you're speaking of yourself and your significant other, right?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:30 PM
Geez. I swear this page and others here, is starting to sound like a bunch of grumpy old people.🙄 I don’t like leaving my dog in the house all day. If I want to take her out and eat at outside patio at a restaurant and they’re OK with it then I’m fine with it. If you don’t like it go eat somewhere else. My Catahoula, is 18 months old and very well trained. If I tell her to sit and stay, she will. I’ve actually gotten many compliments from people on how well she behaves.

Once again, common sense has no place on this thread... :clap2:

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:32 PM
LOL, I love the irony here.

There's a pot and a kettle analogy here somewhere...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:36 PM
Did you misunderstand my post? I don't believe that I mentioned or insinuated that dogs should be in a grocery store, let alone in a cart where food items are carried.

Considering this thread is inquiring about "Pet Friendly Restaurants", no one suggested it was okay to bring dogs into a grocery store...

It's just the haters who always bring up extraneous, make believe scenarios who destroy a thread...

That said, any thoughts on "dog poop"?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:37 PM
there are parts of the world where they eat dogs

There are parts of the world where they eat people...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:37 PM
At this point he's probably rethinking moving to TV with all the leave the dog home replies.

Nah... Most dog people are smart enough to see thru the BS...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:38 PM
No one wants to eat near your dog.

There is no legitimate need for you to take your dog to a restaurant. Unless you are handicapped.

No one? Are you sure about that? Did you ask "everyone"?

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:41 PM
It's very interesting. If you bring in a dog, must be on floor not table or chair. And, the another dog comes in and the two go crazy
It's awefull

I'm sure it must be awful...

Good thing I've NEVER seen it happen...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:43 PM
LOL! the grumpy folks want the entitled and self appointed rules are for thee people who think that their dog and their opinion of where dogs can go beyond the rules, should follow the rules and not pretend that dogs are people or entitled to people status. .

No, we are quite specific about only taking our dogs WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED BY THE RESTAURANT...

It's called "following the rules" of the restaurant...

NO ONE is suggesting that anyone ignore those rules...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:44 PM
Do us all a favor and keep you dog at home when you eat out.

"Us All"?

Many of "US ALL" enjoy seeing dogs then we eat outside...

JMintzer
08-07-2023, 04:45 PM
Who is acting more entitled: The dog owner who asks where he can take his dog or the Villager who says forget the rules, leave the dog at home?

Hmmm, tough question...

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Altavia
08-07-2023, 08:11 PM
there are parts of the world where they eat dogs

Coming from a background that included molecular testing of food products, There's a good chance you have eaten dog.

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 05:17 AM
Why do you think that bringing a dog to an outside restaurant (on occasion) equates to carting them around 24/7?

And why do you think that "poor dog" was unhappy, sitting quietly with it's owners?

Maybe that's what makes the dog happy...

Running out in the yard, playing with a ball, sleeping on a couch is what makes dogs happy. Sitting under a table in a packed restaurant watching people stuffing themselves with food is not the place they would want to be. This situation has nothing to do with the dog's happiness, this has to do with the owner's happiness. I'm sure if the dog had a choice, he would rather be home and get a break from human contact for a while.

Berwin
08-08-2023, 06:24 AM
When I was stationed in Germany for four years, dogs were welcome in eating establishments whereas some places discouraged kids. Of course, Germans trained their dogs well.

MandoMan
08-08-2023, 06:27 AM
Unless your dog is a Support Animal it has no business ANYWHERE the public gathers to eat. Your love of your dog does not change the fact that animals are not allowed in eateries for good reason.

I have no problem allowing guide dogs for the blind, but they are so highly trained that they are more like a different species of advanced animal that just happen to look like dogs. I love dogs, and I agree that dogs can offer emotional support, but pardon the offense, but I consider the Emotional Support Animal thing to be a farce. If you doubt that, have a look at how easy it is to get the fake paperwork online and how little “training” is allowed. It’s just a way to let people bring their pets because most people assume Emotional Support Animal is a real thing, like a guide dog for the blind. If you need that much emotional support to survive the stress of a restaurant or a grocery store, maybe order take out or use GrubHub. Pardon, but I also cringe when people refer to dogs as “doggies” or “fur babies.” And I really like little dogs!

sdm1222
08-08-2023, 06:52 AM
It is so hot, humid, and buggy in October, your dog will be so uncomfortable. Leave your dog in the house with the air conditioning.

Marmaduke
08-08-2023, 07:12 AM
Don't listen to all the naysayers on here, feel free to bring your dog to a restaurant with outside seating that allows dogs. You've gotten a few suggestions here, and once you are here, a few phone calls will tell you which restaurants will and won't, or perhaps the app suggested will help. The people who are worried about how hot the pavement is for your dog are sitting inside anyway, trust me. Whatever you do, don't let your dogs poop on anyone's yard without picking it up...that's when posts really get out of control here!
GET REAL! We eat outside every chance we get, during all 4 Seasons.
We've lived in the south for our entire life. It's our way of life, outdoor living!

I commented about the Pavements in the Dog Days of Summer, (Pun intended!), when the streets and sidewalks
burn the dogs peds almost right away.
The dogs peds turn burnt red, then blister.
Many NEWCOMERS from Cold Weather States are often new PUPPY owners again... and DESERVE to be gently reminded before they are scolded...by a fellow pet advocate.

Most people posted to leave the dog at home. Your Fur Baby will greet you will all the gusto you need to feel loved unconditionally.
What a great feeling! Try it!

Whitley
08-08-2023, 08:07 AM
Running out in the yard, playing with a ball, sleeping on a couch is what makes dogs happy. Sitting under a table in a packed restaurant watching people stuffing themselves with food is not the place they would want to be. This situation has nothing to do with the dog's happiness, this has to do with the owner's happiness. I'm sure if the dog had a choice, he would rather be home and get a break from human contact for a while.

I don't know; I had a boxer who seemed happiest when he would go out with me vs being left home.

RickyLee
08-08-2023, 08:08 AM
You do know that some stores allow dogs, I suggest you put on your big boy pants and deal with it in those stores.

I suggest to myself that I will not be shopping there anymore!

gorillarick
08-08-2023, 08:11 AM
I brought my pet chimpanzee to a local restaurant and was refused service. I explained, he's a service animal; he brings me beers.

They didn't like my pet rat either.

NO, pets don't belong in restaurants. I've seen them licking the floor, then the owner picked up the little rat, he licked the seat, then picked up further so he could lick the table.
I know YOU'D never do that; but what about fleas? pet dander? And some people are allergic to both.
Some things you do with your pet at home are disgusting to most people.

I've seen even worse behavior in the grocery store. I'll spare you.

ron32162
08-08-2023, 08:18 AM
Please, Someone should post a selection of restaurants that allow dogs. That way I'll know the ones to stay away from!

RickyLee
08-08-2023, 08:21 AM
At this point he's probably rethinking moving to TV with all the leave the dog home replies.

One can only hope

RickyLee
08-08-2023, 08:27 AM
No one hates you...

So after reading the couple of responses you have here, I'm not sure I understand, on the issue at hand, are you pro or con? 🤣🤣🤣

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:04 AM
Running out in the yard, playing with a ball, sleeping on a couch is what makes dogs happy. Sitting under a table in a packed restaurant watching people stuffing themselves with food is not the place they would want to be. This situation has nothing to do with the dog's happiness, this has to do with the owner's happiness. I'm sure if the dog had a choice, he would rather be home and get a break from human contact for a while.

Once again, our dog is stressed when we leave her home. That doesn't mean we take her everywhere. But she is not stressed when she's with us at an outside restaurant.

I think I know my dog better than you...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:06 AM
I have no problem allowing guide dogs for the blind, but they are so highly trained that they are more like a different species of advanced animal that just happen to look like dogs. I love dogs, and I agree that dogs can offer emotional support, but pardon the offense, but I consider the Emotional Support Animal thing to be a farce. If you doubt that, have a look at how easy it is to get the fake paperwork online and how little “training” is allowed. It’s just a way to let people bring their pets because most people assume Emotional Support Animal is a real thing, like a guide dog for the blind. If you need that much emotional support to survive the stress of a restaurant or a grocery store, maybe order take out or use GrubHub. Pardon, but I also cringe when people refer to dogs as “doggies” or “fur babies.” And I really like little dogs!

Why do you think a simple question is all about "emotional support"?

The projection in this thread is amazing...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:07 AM
It is so hot, humid, and buggy in October, your dog will be so uncomfortable. Leave your dog in the house with the air conditioning.

Sadly, that was not the question...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:09 AM
GET REAL! We eat outside every chance we get, during all 4 Seasons.
We've lived in the south for our entire life. It's our way of life, outdoor living!

I commented about the Pavements in the Dog Days of Summer, (Pun intended!), when the streets and sidewalks
burn the dogs peds almost right away.
The dogs peds turn burnt red, then blister.
Many NEWCOMERS from Cold Weather States are often new PUPPY owners again... and DESERVE to be gently reminded before they are scolded...by a fellow pet advocate.

Most people posted to leave the dog at home. Your Fur Baby will greet you will all the gusto you need to feel loved unconditionally.
What a great feeling! Try it!

Again, the question wasn't "should I take my dog to a restaurant or leave them home"...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:10 AM
I brought my pet chimpanzee to a local restaurant and was refused service. I explained, he's a service animal; he brings me beers.

They didn't like my pet rat either.

NO, pets don't belong in restaurants. I've seen them licking the floor, then the owner picked up the little rat, he licked the seat, then picked up further so he could lick the table.
I know YOU'D never do that; but what about fleas? pet dander? And some people are allergic to both.
Some things you do with your pet at home are disgusting to most people.

I've seen even worse behavior in the grocery store. I'll spare you.

I hope I don't have to worry about your fleas, or bed bugs...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:11 AM
Please, Someone should post a selection of restaurants that allow dogs. That way I'll know the ones to stay away from!

If you actually read the thread, they HAVE been posted.

And thank you for keeping those restaurants less crowded...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:11 AM
One can only hope

So nice of you...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 09:12 AM
So after reading the couple of responses you have here, I'm not sure I understand, on the issue at hand, are you pro or con? 🤣🤣🤣

:clap2::clap2::clap2:

Bravo!

Bill14564
08-08-2023, 09:14 AM
...

Most people posted to leave the dog at home. Your Fur Baby will greet you will all the gusto you need to feel loved unconditionally.
What a great feeling! Try it!

I thought I read somewhere that dogs were pack animals, that they "adopt" their owners as part of their pack, and feel abandoned when the owner leaves. Perhaps part of that gusto and unconditional love is actually a cry for more attention and less abandonment?

DPWM21
08-08-2023, 09:32 AM
We will be coming to TV in October with our little dog and would like to know which restaurants allow doggies

FIDO App
Seems to be best App to find dog friendly restaurants. Dog owners write reviews and the App uses a five bone ‘star’ rating for pet friendliness.
It also has reviews which can be very helpful in selecting restaurant.

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 09:35 AM
First, I have no problem with people with their dogs on outside dinning and also have no problem with service dogs with inside dining. What I’ve noticed many owners have posted their dogs are only happy when they are with them. Am I missing something here, maybe it should be the dogs eating at the restaurants with their owner sitting under the table. My daughter had four rescue dogs and within a couple of months they learned there were times when they would have to be alone. Dogs are smarter and more adaptable than humans give them credit for.

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 10:35 AM
First, I have no problem with people with their dogs on outside dinning and also have no problem with service dogs with inside dining. What I’ve noticed many owners have posted their dogs are only happy when they are with them. Am I missing something here, maybe it should be the dogs eating at the restaurants with their owner sitting under the table. My daughter had four rescue dogs and within a couple of months they learned there were times when they would have to be alone. Dogs are smarter and more adaptable than humans give them credit for.

Happy ONLY when they are with them? I must have missed that...

I know I never said, nor intimated that...

sdm1222
08-08-2023, 11:08 AM
There should be a limit on how often one person can reply on a subject.

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 11:10 AM
Happy ONLY when they are with them? I must have missed that...

I know I never said, nor intimated that...

This is one of your earlier postings. But I do know my dog. I know when she is stressed. And it's not curled up at my wife's feet at an outdoor restaurant...

As I said I have no problem with dogs accompanying their owner at an outdoor restaurant, but if your dog is stress out it could be it does not want to be there.
If on the other hand the dog is stress whenever he/she is apart from your wife, you have a bigger problem.

wbilbrey99@gmail.com
08-08-2023, 12:04 PM
For the life of me why would you need to take your dog to a restaurant.

CoachKandSportsguy
08-08-2023, 12:26 PM
No, we are quite specific about only taking our dogs WHERE THEY ARE ALLOWED BY THE RESTAURANT...

It's called "following the rules" of the restaurant...

NO ONE is suggesting that anyone ignore those rules...

I was describing the grumpies, and their complaining about dog owners taking dogs beyond where the rules are allowed. .

I think we agree. . but are you one of the grumpies?

Cybersprings
08-08-2023, 12:27 PM
Geez. I swear this page and others here, is starting to sound like a bunch of grumpy old people.🙄 I don’t like leaving my dog in the house all day. If I want to take her out and eat at outside patio at a restaurant and they’re OK with it then I’m fine with it. If you don’t like it go eat somewhere else. My Catahoula, is 18 months old and very well trained. If I tell her to sit and stay, she will. I’ve actually gotten many compliments from people on how well she behaves.

Just looking for clarification. If we don't want to eat with your dog and voice are unhappiness with having to do it, we are grumpy, but if you don't want to leave your dog at home and express your unhappiness with people asking you to do it, you are not being grumpy?

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 01:23 PM
Look I understand many people want their dogs with them at all times and I also understand that many people do not want to be sitting next to a dog eating their meal. Let's put aside what the people want. To be honest if I were a dog one of the last places, I would want to be is in a restaurant watching other people eat. That to me is cruel unwarranted punishment. I think I would rather be chasing squirrels.

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:35 PM
This is one of your earlier postings. But I do know my dog. I know when she is stressed. And it's not curled up at my wife's feet at an outdoor restaurant...

As I said I have no problem with dogs accompanying their owner at an outdoor restaurant, but if your dog is stress out it could be it does not want to be there.
If on the other hand the dog is stress whenever he/she is apart from your wife, you have a bigger problem.

Did I say or imply that was the "ONLY TIME" she is not stressed?

Or did I say and imply that when she was curled up at my wife's feet, at an outdoor restaurant, she is not stressed...

You are inferring something I did not say nor imply...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:36 PM
There should be a limit on how often one person can reply on a subject.

Start your own forum and make that rule...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:38 PM
For the life of me why would you need to take your dog to a restaurant.

Because, sometimes, when we're out with our dog, we get hungry...

In those cases, we seek out a dog friendly restaurant...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:41 PM
I was describing the grumpies, and their complaining about dog owners taking dogs beyond where the rules are allowed. .

I think we agree. . but are you one of the grumpies?

Depends on the day...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:44 PM
Just looking for clarification. If we don't want to eat with your dog and voice are unhappiness with having to do it, we are grumpy, but if you don't want to leave your dog at home and express your unhappiness with people asking you to do it, you are not being grumpy?

Sounds to me they are "Happy" to be with their dog...

Are you "Sneezy" if you see a dog?

Me? I'm typically known as "Doc"...

Actually, this entire thread is getting "Dopey"...

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 03:47 PM
Look I understand many people want their dogs with them at all times and I also understand that many people do not want to be sitting next to a dog eating their meal. Let's put aside what the people want. To be honest if I were a dog one of the last places, I would want to be is in a restaurant watching other people eat. That to me is cruel unwarranted punishment. I think I would rather be chasing squirrels.

Again, the fallacy of "at all times"...

Who is actually is suggesting that?

If it's cruel for a dog to have to watch other people eat in a restaurant, is it also cruel for them to watch you eat when at home?

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 04:10 PM
Again, the fallacy of "at all times"...

Who is actually is suggesting that?

If it's cruel for a dog to have to watch other people eat in a restaurant, is it also cruel for them to watch you eat when at home?

But at home you have access to their food, and they can eat while you're eating.

JMintzer
08-08-2023, 04:23 PM
But at home you have access to their food, and they can eat while you're eating.

Not if you feed your dog at set times...

Your dinner time may not coincide with their feeding time...

Hence, the dogs that "beg at the dinner table"...

Blackbird45
08-08-2023, 04:37 PM
Not if you feed your dog at set times...

Your dinner time may not coincide with their feeding time...

Hence, the dogs that "beg at the dinner table"...

I'm sure you can figure some justification for your point of view, but at home even if there is a set schedule feeding time you can give your dog a treat or feed him from the table. If you think people are going to be upset that there is a dog inside a restaurant, I can only imagine what their reaction would be to you see you feeding your dog off your plate while they're eating.

mrstekky
08-08-2023, 04:49 PM
I noticed there are signs at Reville in Magnolia plaza and City Fire in Sumter that dogs are not allowed even outside. Before I would assume they all allowed dogs outside, but now I’m not sure which ones do.

I know that Reveille Cafe allows only service dogs inside and outside. Other than that NO dogs are allowed.

Miboater
08-08-2023, 05:16 PM
I replied earlier in this thread that we don't take our dog to restaurants when we eat besides Edna's. One of the reasons I mentioned was that I know that some people frown upon that but the biggest reason is that my dog would not like it as she is a little skittish. Our last dog would have loved it but all dogs are different. I see no reason if a particular restaurant allows dogs on their patio not to take them up on the offer.

I don't believe anyone here is being forced to eat at restaurants that have a dog friendly policy on their patio. Most don't allow pets anywhere. If that is something that you can't tolerate, go somewhere else or eat inside. It's just that simple.

Number 10 GI
08-08-2023, 05:26 PM
When I was stationed in Germany for four years, dogs were welcome in eating establishments whereas some places discouraged kids. Of course, Germans trained their dogs well.

I spent over 9 years stationed at various locations in Germany and never once saw a dog in a restaurant. We have visited family over the years there and again, never once saw a dog in a restaurant.

sdm1222
08-08-2023, 07:06 PM
Start your own forum and make that rule...
Go for a walk, read a book...

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 08:22 AM
I'm sure you can figure some justification for your point of view, but at home even if there is a set schedule feeding time you can give your dog a treat or feed him from the table. If you think people are going to be upset that there is a dog inside a restaurant, I can only imagine what their reaction would be to you see you feeding your dog off your plate while they're eating.

Once again... WE ARE TALKING ABOUT DOGS SITTING OUTSIDE... And NO ONE is suggesting "feeding a dog off of your plate" is a good thing...

NO ONE is suggesting that dogs inside (save for true service dogs) are a good thing...

Oh, and I'm sure you can figure out some justification for your point of view (see above)...

And it's quite simple to "give your dog a treat" when they are sitting calmly at your feet at an OUTDOOR Restaurant Patio... It will reinforce their good behavior of sitting there quietly...

Any other "made up scenarios" (that no one is suggesting is a good thing) do you want to discuss?

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 08:24 AM
I know that Reveille Cafe allows only service dogs inside and outside. Other than that NO dogs are allowed.

Then I'm sure that is one restaurant the OP will not go to with their dog...

I know I wouldn't insist of bringing my dog there... Simple, innit?

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 08:25 AM
I replied earlier in this thread that we don't take our dog to restaurants when we eat besides Edna's. One of the reasons I mentioned was that I know that some people frown upon that but the biggest reason is that my dog would not like it as she is a little skittish. Our last dog would have loved it but all dogs are different. I see no reason if a particular restaurant allows dogs on their patio not to take them up on the offer.

I don't believe anyone here is being forced to eat at restaurants that have a dog friendly policy on their patio. Most don't allow pets anywhere. If that is something that you can't tolerate, go somewhere else or eat inside. It's just that simple.

I'm sorry, but "logic and reason" have no place on this thread... :p

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 08:26 AM
I spent over 9 years stationed at various locations in Germany and never once saw a dog in a restaurant. We have visited family over the years there and again, never once saw a dog in a restaurant.

Was it 4 years ago? Maybe things have changed since you were there...

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 08:27 AM
Go for a walk, read a book...

Sage advice. Maybe you should take it...

Cybersprings
08-09-2023, 11:25 AM
Considering this thread is inquiring about "Pet Friendly Restaurants", no one suggested it was okay to bring dogs into a grocery store...

It's just the haters who always bring up extraneous, make believe scenarios who destroy a thread...

That said, any thoughts on "dog poop"?

I think we all see that this is a hot-button issue for you.
Since we agree on 99% of the posts, hopefully we can have a positive discussion.

1. While the post was asking about dogs in/at restaurants, the subject is broader to us non-pet owners. Dogs in shopping carts is not a made-up scenario. It happens frequently. So when the topic cups up about dogs at restaurants, it is not completely off topic to say that we think it is not appropriate for dogs to be in the stores, and we are tired of the barking matches at the farmers market, that dog poop on the sidewalks in the square that I stepped in is disgusting.
2. Why do you say it is inappropriate for a dog inside a restaurant?

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 04:44 PM
I think we all see that this is a hot-button issue for you.
Since we agree on 99% of the posts, hopefully we can have a positive discussion.

1. While the post was asking about dogs in/at restaurants, the subject is broader to us non-pet owners. Dogs in shopping carts is not a made-up scenario. It happens frequently. So when the topic cups up about dogs at restaurants, it is not completely off topic to say that we think it is not appropriate for dogs to be in the stores, and we are tired of the barking matches at the farmers market, that dog poop on the sidewalks in the square that I stepped in is disgusting.
2. Why do you say it is inappropriate for a dog inside a restaurant?

"Hot button issue"?

Yes it is... For all of the people who immediately start making up nonsensical scenarios that no one with an ounce of common sense thinks will actually happen...

YOU are making this about dogs IN restaurants. You're now expanding the topic to random stores and even the squares, and farmer's markets... So tell me, who's "hot button issue" is this?

Sorry you stepped in dog poop. I did it once, as well. But it was when I was 12... I quickly learned to watch where I was walking...

In case you missed it, I can be a bit of a contrarian... Especially when I see what I feel is nonsense posted on the forum.

Number 10 GI
08-09-2023, 04:54 PM
Was it 4 years ago? Maybe things have changed since you were there...

Took the time to GoogleFoo the question. It is up to the restaurant if dogs are allowed. Also, different states in the country can dictate if they are allowed or not. If the restaurant has an open kitchen, not sure what this means, dogs aren't allowed.
Dogs are not allowed in supermarkets, bakeries or butcher shops. As a general rule, any store selling fresh food is a no-go.

In some touristy areas, museums, galleries, etc., dogs are not allowed for the safety of people.

Number 10 GI
08-09-2023, 05:04 PM
My main problem with dogs in restaurants or anywhere food is sold, I don't know how clean your dog is. Yeah, yeah everyone will claim their dog is cleaner than some humans but there isn't any way to prove it and I'm not going to take your word for it.

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 05:59 PM
Took the time to GoogleFoo the question. It is up to the restaurant if dogs are allowed. Also, different states in the country can dictate if they are allowed or not. If the restaurant has an open kitchen, not sure what this means, dogs aren't allowed.
Dogs are not allowed in supermarkets, bakeries or butcher shops. As a general rule, any store selling fresh food is a no-go.

In some touristy areas, museums, galleries, etc., dogs are not allowed for the safety of people.

Sounds reasonable...

JMintzer
08-09-2023, 06:04 PM
My main problem with dogs in restaurants or anywhere food is sold, I don't know how clean your dog is. Yeah, yeah everyone will claim their dog is cleaner than some humans but there isn't any way to prove it and I'm not going to take your word for it.

Sadly, I no longer trust how clean people are...

I've had more than a few patients show up with live baby roaches in their shoes and clothing...

I't always a pleasure to shut town a treatment room for a deep cleaning in the middle of a busy day...

Altavia
08-09-2023, 07:58 PM
Sadly, I no longer trust how clean people are...

I've had more than a few patients show up with live baby roaches in their shoes and clothing...

I't always a pleasure to shut town a treatment room for a deep cleaning in the middle of a busy day...

Yes, people should be at least as concerned about Improper human hygiene, food handling/spoilage/contaminaton, sanitation etc.

Causing gastroenteritis due to E. coli, Salmonella, Norovirus, Rotavirus, Campylobacter and so on.

Bay Kid
08-10-2023, 07:11 AM
Just as dogs aren't allowed in our pools they shouldn't be allowed in restaurants. Health reasons should be enough of a reason.

Cybersprings
08-10-2023, 08:33 AM
"Hot button issue"?

Yes it is... For all of the people who immediately start making up nonsensical scenarios that no one with an ounce of common sense thinks will actually happen...

YOU are making this about dogs IN restaurants. You're now expanding the topic to random stores and even the squares, and farmer's markets... So tell me, who's "hot button issue" is this?

Sorry you stepped in dog poop. I did it once, as well. But it was when I was 12... I quickly learned to watch where I was walking...

In case you missed it, I can be a bit of a contrarian... Especially when I see what I feel is nonsense posted on the forum.

Yes, this is a bit of a hot-button issue with me. Although I don't think it was that evident until I stated it. I choose not to have pets because I don't want to clean up behind them, and keep them from sniffing me etc. Yet, I have to clean up behind them in my yard, I have to clean their mess off my shoes in the square, etc. I never asked people to change my son's dirty diapers. And I don't expect to have to clean up behind other people's pets.

I am confused on which scenarios you think are nonsensical. Which ones are you saying are made up?

I absolutely did NOT make this about dogs inside restaurants! Read my posts again without the disdain that is making it impossible for you read with accuracy. I asked a simple question. Why do you think it is INappropriate for a dog to eat INside a restaurant? You made that statement. I am asking you why you believe that.

Whitley
08-10-2023, 08:46 AM
For the life of me why would you need to take your dog to a restaurant.

It take too long to read him the menu over the phone.

Cybersprings
08-10-2023, 09:17 AM
It take too long to read him the menu over the phone.

And that wins the prize for best post in the thread.
thanks!

JMintzer
08-10-2023, 09:17 AM
Yes, this is a bit of a hot-button issue with me. Although I don't think it was that evident until I stated it. I choose not to have pets because I don't want to clean up behind them, and keep them from sniffing me etc. Yet, I have to clean up behind them in my yard, I have to clean their mess off my shoes in the square, etc. I never asked people to change my son's dirty diapers. And I don't expect to have to clean up behind other people's pets.

I am confused on which scenarios you think are nonsensical. Which ones are you saying are made up?

I absolutely did NOT make this about dogs inside restaurants! Read my posts again without the disdain that is making it impossible for you read with accuracy. I asked a simple question. Why do you think it is INappropriate for a dog to eat INside a restaurant? You made that statement. I am asking you why you believe that.

Because inside is inside and outside is outside...

And the scenarios I'm talking about are when people claim to have an allergic attack at the sight of a dog...

Sounds to me like you don't want to have to encounter dogs anywhere...

Sorry, that's not going to happen...

Cybersprings
08-10-2023, 09:38 AM
Because inside is inside and outside is outside...

Wow! That level of analysis and logic must only come with a medical degree and must be why I can't understand.

And the scenarios I'm talking about are when people claim to have an allergic attack at the sight of a dog...

I have never seen or heard any situation of that occuring, but I also have never seen that happen with peanuts or diet sodas, but I have been on aircraft where a person with allergies (my seatmate but a stranger) was the reason they could not be served anywhere on the aircraft. She said she had to be taken off a previous flight unconscious because of that. So I can't speak to whether or not the allergy situation with animals is real or not, regardless of the fact that you have never encountered it or heard of it.

Sounds to me like you don't want to have to encounter dogs anywhere...

Sorry, that's not going to happen...

I think it does sound like that from what I have posted, but that wouldn't be accurate, and you are correct it would be unreasonable to expect that. However, I don't think they need to be in stores, at restaurants, or at the squares during the farmers market or entertainment. Everyone should not have to endure others' pets at all times.

Your assessment of where pets should be (inside is inside and outside is outside) is not the only opinion that matters. I am not saying that my opinion should have more weight than anyone else's, but my opinion does not require other's to endure my wims. Would you be ok if I brought in a speaker and played rap music (or some music you don't appreciate) beside you in a restaurant if that is what I liked to do during dinner? But I would only do it outside because inside is inside and outside is outside.

JMintzer
08-10-2023, 10:37 AM
Wow! That level of analysis and logic must only come with a medical degree and must be why I can't understand.

Sorry you cannot comprehend the difference in air flow between being inside and being outside. I learned that long before I attended Med School...

I have never seen or heard any situation of that occuring, but I also have never seen that happen with peanuts or diet sodas, but I have been on aircraft where a person with allergies (my seatmate but a stranger) was the reason they could not be served anywhere on the aircraft. She said she had to be taken off a previous flight unconscious because of that. So I can't speak to whether or not the allergy situation with animals is real or not, regardless of the fact that you have never encountered it or heard of it.

Again, INSIDE and airplane is quite different than OUTSIDE, on a patio...

I think it does sound like that from what I have posted, but that wouldn't be accurate, and you are correct it would be unreasonable to expect that. However, I don't think they need to be in stores, at restaurants, or at the squares during the farmers market or entertainment. Everyone should not have to endure others' pets at all times.

You're perfectly free to think that, but real life expectations are quite different...

Your assessment of where pets should be (inside is inside and outside is outside) is not the only opinion that matters. I am not saying that my opinion should have more weight than anyone else's, but my opinion does not require other's to endure my wims. Would you be ok if I brought in a speaker and played rap music (or some music you don't appreciate) beside you in a restaurant if that is what I liked to do during dinner? But I would only do it outside because inside is inside and outside is outside.

And thank you for providing one of those "ridiculous scenarios" I mentioned earlier...

Apples and kumquats... If the rules of the restaurant allowed for you to play "rap music" beside other patrons, I would have two choices. Either I endure the music or I dine elsewhere. Easy peasy...

And yes your wims most certainly do cause me to endure things I wish not to endure...

As I mentioned earlier, If I'm out with my wife and dog, and we decide we're hungry, we seek out a "dog friendly establishment" to grab a bite. We are abiding by THEIR rules. We don't insist on taking our dog inside, nor do we have her sit on a chair or at the table. We follow THEIR rules. Sorry that is not good enough for you.

Cybersprings
08-10-2023, 12:39 PM
As I mentioned earlier, If I'm out with my wife and dog, and we decide we're hungry, we seek out a "dog friendly establishment" to grab a bite. We are abiding by THEIR rules. We don't insist on taking our dog inside, nor do we have her sit on a chair or at the table. We follow THEIR rules. Sorry that is not good enough for you.

I agree 100% with this part. When I see the pets eating there in the future, I will make sure to go elsewhere and let the management know why. Hopefully I and others who would not like to dine with pets can influence their rules. If not, we will just our business elsewhere. You are correct. Easy peasy.

Cybersprings
08-10-2023, 12:43 PM
Sorry you cannot comprehend the difference in air flow between being inside and being outside. I learned that long before I attended Med School...


Sorry you never learned the ability to communicate clearly. Are you implying that the ONLY difference between inside and outside is airflow and that if asked the difference between inside and outside a restaurant, the majority of people would specify airflow as the only or even main difference?

Speaking of easy peasy, "why do you think it is inappropriate for dogs to eat inside restaurants? answer "airflow is different." See how simple that is to communicate?

Byte1
08-10-2023, 01:25 PM
Ok, the question was NOT whether or not dogs were allowed INSIDE or OUTSIDE a restaurant, but whether or not there were restaurants that allowed dogs. Some folks have said they do not believe that dogs belong inside the restaurant and there is one that insisted that the OP did not suggest "inside" the restaurant. What I read was just simply if there are restaurants that allow dogs, not differentiating whether inside or outside.
Another poster said that there are restaurants that serve dogs. Another said that there are countries that have dog on the menu. I have been to countries that prepare a dog meat meal and I have consumed dog meat. In case anyone is curious, dog meat tasted much like pork to me, although with less fat. Just saying.
I stipulated earlier that I love animals, especially dogs but no longer own one. I don't wish to leave a pet behind unless I know someone would take care of/love it as I would. However, my "opinion" is that animals should not be allowed in food establishments, period. Outside is a different matter. I have no problem with folks having their pets dine with them OUTSIDE. After all, birds, bugs and lizards frequent dining tables outside, so a dog under the table can't possibly be any worse.
I would hate to see a pet locked up in a car while the owner is enjoying a meal inside an AC cooled restaurant. But, I believe that mos folks that own a pet, would or should think about the pet and treat it responsibly. That said, there are exceptions to folks with common sense.
After dining out in many countries, I have learned to cope/endure/enjoy eating in unusual places. I have seen all manner of unusual environments inside and outside of food establishments. I am at an age where I am past getting excited over other folks eccentricities. Thanks to COVID, there are plenty of masks available for those that are still germaphobes.
The OP did not ask for my preferences. The OP asked if there were restaurants that allowed their dog to be present while they dine. At least that is what I surmised from the simple/brief post. The OP did not ask whether or not you allowed dogs to poop on your lawn, ride in a hot car, or sleep on your bed. They simply wanted to know if there were pet friendly restaurants available in the area of America's Friendliest Hometown.

LuvNH
08-10-2023, 01:52 PM
If the OP has been following this long, long thread, then they have probably decided to look elsewhere in Florida. I certainly would have, although the OP may have put this nonsense down to heat stroke!

JMintzer
08-10-2023, 07:42 PM
Ok, the question was NOT whether or not dogs were allowed INSIDE or OUTSIDE a restaurant, but whether or not there were restaurants that allowed dogs. Some folks have said they do not believe that dogs belong inside the restaurant and there is one that insisted that the OP did not suggest "inside" the restaurant. What I read was just simply if there are restaurants that allow dogs, not differentiating whether inside or outside.
Another poster said that there are restaurants that serve dogs. Another said that there are countries that have dog on the menu. I have been to countries that prepare a dog meat meal and I have consumed dog meat. In case anyone is curious, dog meat tasted much like pork to me, although with less fat. Just saying.
I stipulated earlier that I love animals, especially dogs but no longer own one. I don't wish to leave a pet behind unless I know someone would take care of/love it as I would. However, my "opinion" is that animals should not be allowed in food establishments, period. Outside is a different matter. I have no problem with folks having their pets dine with them OUTSIDE. After all, birds, bugs and lizards frequent dining tables outside, so a dog under the table can't possibly be any worse.
I would hate to see a pet locked up in a car while the owner is enjoying a meal inside an AC cooled restaurant. But, I believe that mos folks that own a pet, would or should think about the pet and treat it responsibly. That said, there are exceptions to folks with common sense.
After dining out in many countries, I have learned to cope/endure/enjoy eating in unusual places. I have seen all manner of unusual environments inside and outside of food establishments. I am at an age where I am past getting excited over other folks eccentricities. Thanks to COVID, there are plenty of masks available for those that are still germaphobes.
The OP did not ask for my preferences. The OP asked if there were restaurants that allowed their dog to be present while they dine. At least that is what I surmised from the simple/brief post. The OP did not ask whether or not you allowed dogs to poop on your lawn, ride in a hot car, or sleep on your bed. They simply wanted to know if there were pet friendly restaurants available in the area of America's Friendliest Hometown.

I couldn't have said it any better... A simple explanation of the difference between "Inside" and "outside"...

JMintzer
08-10-2023, 07:43 PM
If the OP has been following this long, long thread, then they have probably decided to look elsewhere in Florida. I certainly would have, although the OP may have put this nonsense down to heat stroke!

Nah... They just learned that people are the same wherever they live...

JMintzer
08-10-2023, 07:49 PM
Sorry you never learned the ability to communicate clearly. Are you implying that the ONLY difference between inside and outside is airflow and that if asked the difference between inside and outside a restaurant, the majority of people would specify airflow as the only or even main difference?

Speaking of easy peasy, "why do you think it is inappropriate for dogs to eat inside restaurants? answer "airflow is different." See how simple that is to communicate?

See Byte1's response above...

tophcfa
08-10-2023, 07:59 PM
OK Breakfast

brianherlihy
08-11-2023, 04:00 PM
i see a dog i just leave and dont pay the bill

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-11-2023, 04:02 PM
i see a dog i just leave and dont pay the bill

I see you, and I feed the dog and don't let you in. So we're even.

Bill14564
08-11-2023, 04:06 PM
i see a dog i just leave and dont pay the bill

Odd what people will confess to on a public forum.

shut the front door
08-11-2023, 04:07 PM
Odd what people will confess to on a public forum.

Especially when using their name! I guess he'll be on the dine and dash list!

tophcfa
08-11-2023, 07:24 PM
Especially when using their name! I guess he'll be on the dine and dash list!

That’s a new one, I thought it was called chew and screw?

JMintzer
08-11-2023, 08:11 PM
i see a dog i just leave and dont pay the bill

Wow... Admits to being a thief...

Cybersprings
08-11-2023, 09:11 PM
See Byte1's response above...

I did see his response. It was a simple answer to a simple question. You are right. You couldn't have said it better. Apparently, you didn't have the ability to say it all or you would have said something similar instead of inside is inside and outside it outside.