Fame...For ALL The Wrong Reasons

[ThirdOfFive]

Well, TV is on the news not only nationally but internationally as well. The infamous Glenview Punch, thanks to the magic of instant worldwide communication, has made Twin Cities NewsTalk up in Minneapolis, as well as the Daily Mail in the UK. Probably other outlets as well. I don't know.

"Sad" doesn't even begin to describe this, and IMO says far less about TV than it does about the boundless appetite for prurience and scandal that is endemic with our race. As Johnny Cash once sang "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow". The church I attend here in TV fills thousands of shoeboxes each year with food, treats, necessities, etc. as part of "Operation Christmas Child" which are then distributed in various third-world countries. I doubt that "news" of that extends more than a few blocks from the church. But this news about an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the Internet in general and Social Media in particular will become, in the end, the greatest evil our society has ever been plagued with.

[golfing eagles]

Well, TV is on the news not only nationally but internationally as well. The infamous Glenview Punch has made Twin Cities NewsTalk up in Minneapolis, as well as the Daily Mail in the UK.

"Sad" doesn't even begin to describe this, and IMO says far less about TV than it does about the boundless appetite for prurience and scandal that is endemic with our race. As Johnny Cash once sang "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow". The church I attend here in TV fills thousands of shoeboxes each year with food, treats, necessities, etc. as part of "Operation Christmas Child" which are then distributed in various third-world countries. I doubt that "news" of that extends more than a few blocks from the church. But this news about an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the Internet in general and Social Media in particular will become, in the end, the greatest evil our society has ever been plagued with.

Pretty amazing that it made national news, especially during a weekend that saw 32 people, 8 fatally shot in Chicago alone. But let's not report that.

Shortly after I moved from NYC to a small upstate city 36 years ago, a local man got out of bed at 3 AM, while his wife remained asleep, drove to a nearby farm and raped a pig (yes, a 4 legged swine). This made national news as well, I got call from friends asking what kind of place I moved to. Every day good deeds probably outnumber bad deeds by a hundred to one, but yet we all know what the news reports.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Shortly after I moved from NYC to a small upstate city 36 years ago, a local man got out of bed at 3 AM, while his wife remained asleep, drove to a nearby farm and raped a pig (yes, a 4 legged swine).

LOL! I would love to see the police report on that one! how was he caught, in the act? sleepwalking defense? restitution? support payments? LOL!

[golfing eagles]

LOL! I would love to see the police report on that one! how was he caught, in the act? sleepwalking defense? restitution? support payments? LOL!

The story got better and better. He was caught by the farmer who heard the pig squeal. When interviewed by the local newspaper, the farmer stated that he couldn’t tell whether the pig was squealing in “pain or delight”.
We’ve always wondered what the wife was like that he felt the need to leave her bed to ***k a pig

[Dusty_Star]

.... an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!



I can't believe that punching someone in the head, because they might have hit his car, can in anyway be considered an accident. It was intentional, it was rage fueled, but it was not an accident & the resulting death which is tragic, is a direct result of that intentional attack.

[ThirdOfFive]

The story got better and better. He was caught by the farmer who heard the pig squeal. When interviewed by the local newspaper, the farmer stated that he couldn’t tell whether the pig was squealing in “pain or delight”.
We’ve always wondered what the wife was like that he felt the need to leave her bed to ***k a pig
How quickly we deviate from the topic at hand! But hilarious nevertheless.

We had dinner with a friend and his wife last night who are missionaries. They told a story about how they had taken a group of students to Marrakesh, Morocco. A local guy offered to trade his camel for one of the women in the group. I was tempted to ask how many camels is the going price for a woman in Marrakesh but thought the better of it considering the company.

[Bill14564]

I can't believe that punching someone in the head, because they might have hit his car, can in anyway be considered an accident. It was intentional, it was rage fueled, but it was not an accident & the resulting death which is tragic, is a direct result of that intentional attack.

So you believe the guy who threw the punch was thinking, "I'm going to kill that man?"

I believe he intended to hit him, hurt him, and embarrass him. I don't believe it even occurred to him that it might kill the man. The punch was intentional, the death was not.

Aren't there different charges for an intentional killing and an accidental one? If so, we'll see what he is charged and convicted of.

[golfing eagles]

How quickly we deviate from the topic at hand! But hilarious nevertheless.

We had dinner with a friend and his wife last night who are missionaries. They told a story about how they had taken a group of students to Marrakesh, Morocco. A local guy offered to trade his camel for one of the women in the group. I was tempted to ask how many camels is the going price for a woman in Marrakesh but thought the better of it considering the company.

Reminds me of the guy who joined the French Foreign Legion and was sent to the Sahara Desert. After a while, he asked his fellow soldiers what they did for "companionship". They told him there was a local down the road that had a camel he could use for $10. Initially, the man was disgusted but after a few months he relented and went to see the local and gave him $10 and then went to the barn and "engaged" with the camel, who promptly squealed. The owner came running back and screamed "WTF are you doing?". The soldier replied "I assume the usual, what do all the other soldiers do? The owner responded "They all take the camel, ride it into town and find a woman" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[JGibson]

A lady on an airplane now known as TMINR went viral because it was kinda comical.

This story which is tragic is also comical because it wasn't his car and they caught him from a hole in one picture with the same clothes.

I think the media has just become numb to the more glaring violence in inner cities and almost has normalized it.

We all know this isn't an everyday occurrence but TV is not shielded from negative publicity.

[ThirdOfFive]

Reminds me of the guy who joined the French Foreign Legion and was sent to the Sahara Desert. After a while, he asked his fellow soldiers what they did for "companionship". They told him there was a local down the road that had a camel he could use for $10. Initially, the man was disgusted but after a few months he relented and went to see the local and gave him $10 and then went to the barn and "engaged" with the camel, who promptly squealed. The owner came running back and screamed "WTF are you doing?". The soldier replied "I assume the usual, what do all the other soldiers do? The owner responded "They all take the camel, ride it into town and find a woman" :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Heh.

Punchlining:

"Ten bucks, same as in town".

[vintageogauge]

So you believe the guy who threw the punch was thinking, "I'm going to kill that man?"

I believe he intended to hit him, hurt him, and embarrass him. I don't believe it even occurred to him that it might kill the man. The punch was intentional, the death was not.

Aren't there different charges for an intentional killing and an accidental one? If so, we'll see what he is charged and convicted of.

Drunk drivers don't have the intent to kill someone either but they chose to drive drunk just as he chose to punch the old man. Both deserve at least involuntary manslaughter with prison time. Glad it's making the national news so this piece of Cr_ _ doesn't get a slap on the hand.

[Laker14]

IMO, much of the world "outside the bubble" has a certain perception of what "old" people should do, and how they should behave. This view usually consists of us sitting around a nursing home, waiting to be spoon fed some baby food because we can't chew our food anymore.
Maybe the more fit among us could play a little shuffleboard or some cards.

The dichotomy between that perception and the reality that exists here, which includes old people still doing things like having sex (and not always with one's spouse, GASP!!!), smoking pot, being politically animated, fighting, even, sadly, with disastrous consequences, creates a morbid fascination with us.

Were the involved parties of the Glenview Parking Lot killing in their 30s, and the location was a parking lot in Brooklyn (unless perhaps it was a hate crime), we'd have heard nothing about it. However since such behavior aberrates so wildly from what the pre-conceived notions are of how old people behave, it becomes "interesting" in a sick way.

I guess the best we can do is accept the way it is, and be thankful that despite our outliers, we are not the way the world perceives we should be.

[Taltarzac725]

IMO, much of the world "outside the bubble" has a certain perception of what "old" people should do, and how they should behave. This view usually consists of us sitting around a nursing home, waiting to be spoon fed some baby food because we can't chew our food anymore.
Maybe the more fit among us could play a little shuffleboard or some cards.

The dichotomy between that perception and the reality that exists here, which includes old people still doing things like having sex (and not always with one's spouse, GASP!!!), smoking pot, being politically animated, fighting, even, sadly, with disastrous consequences, creates a morbid fascination with us.

Were the involved parties of the Glenview Parking Lot killing in their 30s, and the location was a parking lot in Brooklyn (unless perhaps it was a hate crime), we'd have heard nothing about it. However since such behavior aberrates so wildly from what the pre-conceived notions are of how old people behave, it becomes "interesting" in a sick way.

I guess the best we can do is accept the way it is, and be thankful that despite our outliers, we are not the way the world perceives we should be.

Nicely put. And now about those loofahs. Swingers swap upside-down pineapples for loofahs (https://nypost.com/2023/02/03/swingers-swap-upside-down-pineapples-for-loofahs/)

[DAVES]

Well, TV is on the news not only nationally but internationally as well. The infamous Glenview Punch, thanks to the magic of instant worldwide communication, has made Twin Cities NewsTalk up in Minneapolis, as well as the Daily Mail in the UK. Probably other outlets as well. I don't know.

"Sad" doesn't even begin to describe this, and IMO says far less about TV than it does about the boundless appetite for prurience and scandal that is endemic with our race. As Johnny Cash once sang "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow". The church I attend here in TV fills thousands of shoeboxes each year with food, treats, necessities, etc. as part of "Operation Christmas Child" which are then distributed in various third-world countries. I doubt that "news" of that extends more than a few blocks from the church. But this news about an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the Internet in general and Social Media in particular will become, in the end, the greatest evil our society has ever been plagued with.

Throughout history, you cannot block progress. Not all progress is good.
Social media? It is a choice. Computers, the internet, you are forced to embrace that
monster. The PRICE, privacy is a thing of the past.

[ThirdOfFive]

Throughout history, you cannot block progress. Not all progress is good.
Social media? It is a choice. Computers, the internet, you are forced to embrace that
monster. The PRICE, privacy is a thing of the past.
Great point. Mankind's knowledge has always outpaced his wisdom. IMO today we're seeing living proof of that in ways none of us have ever envisaged.

[JMintzer]

Drunk drivers don't have the intent to kill someone either but they chose to drive drunk just as he chose to punch the old man. Both deserve at least involuntary manslaughter with prison time. Glad it's making the national news so this piece of Cr_ _ doesn't get a slap on the hand.

I've read reports that the "piece of Cr_ _" punched the guy because the other guy wouldn't let go of him...

Don't know if it's true, but there may be extenuating circumstances...

[Packer Fan]

So it must not be a big story- I sure have not seen it and have ZERO idea what you people are talking about. Not looking for an explanation either, but it sure has not hit any newsfeeds I follow - must be on MSNBC or CNN.....

[golfing eagles]

So it must not be a big story- I sure have not seen it and have ZERO idea what you people are talking about. Not looking for an explanation either, but it sure has not hit any newsfeeds I follow - must be on MSNBC or CNN.....

Not really, personally, I've removed MSNBC and CNN from my on screen guide so it cannot get tuned in even by accident. But it did make national news outlets, try this from Fox News if that channel is more to your liking:

Florida golfer arrested for punching 87-year-old man to death over car dispute: police | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/us/florida-golfer-arrested-punching-87-year-old-man-death-car-dispute-police)

[ThirdOfFive]

So it must not be a big story- I sure have not seen it and have ZERO idea what you people are talking about. Not looking for an explanation either, but it sure has not hit any newsfeeds I follow - must be on MSNBC or CNN.....
Some new folks here? Helpful hint: when responding to a post click the "quote message in reply" under "Options" (will appear just below what is being typed). That way people will know what is being responded to.

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

I hope there are some extenuating circumstances. However, the victim was 87 years old, and since ‘you take the victim as you find him’, I doubt it. I heard that the car in question wasn’t even his. Sad.

[Miboater]

I did read the article in the Daily Mail website after I read it in the Villages news. I was surprised that they didn't make more of a issue about it happening in the Villages. They did mention the Villages a few times well into the article but I'm getting used to more salacious stories if the Villages are involved. The other thing that surprised me was they said that Glenview County Club was 126 years old. I may be mistaken but I think they are off by a few years.

[MrChip72]

Not really, personally, I've removed MSNBC and CNN from my on screen guide so it cannot get tuned in even by accident. But it did make national news outlets, try this from Fox News if that channel is more to your liking:

So block out the other news channels that are more in line with the rest of the democratic free world and only watch the one channel that was fined over $780 million for spreading lies and admitted their guilt. OK.

[Laker14]

So block out the other news channels that are more in line with the rest of the democratic free world and only watch the one channel that was fined over $780 million for spreading lies and admitted their guilt. OK.

Were they fined, or did they choose to settle, so that the true degree of their complicitness would not be revealed in a law suit?

[MandoMan]

The story got better and better. He was caught by the farmer who heard the pig squeal. When interviewed by the local newspaper, the farmer stated that he couldn’t tell whether the pig was squealing in “pain or delight”.
We’ve always wondered what the wife was like that he felt the need to leave her bed to ***k a pig

When it’s 3 a.m. and you can’t get back to sleep and you have the urge and you’re in upstate NY, whatcha gonna do? Actually, he and the pig had had a long, loving relationship. I’ve heard he raised it in 4H and showed it at the county fair before selling it. It was consensual, he told the court.

[MandoMan]

So you believe the guy who threw the punch was thinking, "I'm going to kill that man?"

I believe he intended to hit him, hurt him, and embarrass him. I don't believe it even occurred to him that it might kill the man. The punch was intentional, the death was not.

Aren't there different charges for an intentional killing and an accidental one? If so, we'll see what he is charged and convicted of.

I think it’s called something like aggravated involuntary manslaughter, but add to that the fact that the victim was over 65. If the poor man hadn’t died, I think it would have been felony aggravated assault and battery on a senior. So sad.

[ThirdOfFive]

I've read reports that the "piece of Cr_ _" punched the guy because the other guy wouldn't let go of him...

Don't know if it's true, but there may be extenuating circumstances...
May be.

Which is why in America the Court of Public Opinion secondary to the Court of Law.

[Mistymom]

Well, TV is on the news not only nationally but internationally as well. The infamous Glenview Punch, thanks to the magic of instant worldwide communication, has made Twin Cities NewsTalk up in Minneapolis, as well as the Daily Mail in the UK. Probably other outlets as well. I don't know.

"Sad" doesn't even begin to describe this, and IMO says far less about TV than it does about the boundless appetite for prurience and scandal that is endemic with our race. As Johnny Cash once sang "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow". The church I attend here in TV fills thousands of shoeboxes each year with food, treats, necessities, etc. as part of "Operation Christmas Child" which are then distributed in various third-world countries. I doubt that "news" of that extends more than a few blocks from the church. But this news about an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the Internet in general and Social Media in particular will become, in the end, the greatest evil our society has ever been plagued with.

I gave up on the way social media treats personal situations years ago when my friends' mentally ill son brutally killed and butchered his parents. We knew the familiy well and had spent recently spent a day at they lake with them and other friends. (The son did seem hyper that day because he had gone off his meds because his new doctor advised it).
Newspapers and newscasts broadcasted this all around the world. The comments that were said were very explicit,brutal and sadistic. Each one was like a spear to the gut to those of us who cared about this very, very nice family.
As others said, I also had friends around the country contacting me to see if I knew this family bcause I lived in Chattanooga.

[Bilyclub]

I did read the article in the Daily Mail website after I read it in the Villages news. I was surprised that they didn't make more of a issue about it happening in the Villages. They did mention the Villages a few times well into the article but I'm getting used to more salacious stories if the Villages are involved. The other thing that surprised me was they said that Glenview County Club was 126 years old. I may be mistaken but I think they are off by a few years.

Probably got confused with the one in Illinois. Club History - Glen View Club (https://www.glenviewclub.com/public/club-history-903.html)

[Donnarae93]

Well, TV is on the news not only nationally but internationally as well. The infamous Glenview Punch, thanks to the magic of instant worldwide communication, has made Twin Cities NewsTalk up in Minneapolis, as well as the Daily Mail in the UK. Probably other outlets as well. I don't know.

"Sad" doesn't even begin to describe this, and IMO says far less about TV than it does about the boundless appetite for prurience and scandal that is endemic with our race. As Johnny Cash once sang "Bad news travels like wildfire, good news travels slow". The church I attend here in TV fills thousands of shoeboxes each year with food, treats, necessities, etc. as part of "Operation Christmas Child" which are then distributed in various third-world countries. I doubt that "news" of that extends more than a few blocks from the church. But this news about an (apparently) alcohol-fueled rage and the tragic, though in reality accidental, death of another person has wings!

The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced that the Internet in general and Social Media in particular will become, in the end, the greatest evil our society has ever been plagued with.

This also made it out to Bakersfield CA!!

[MrFlorida]

Bad news travels fast.... it sells better than good news.

[dougawhite]

'Dog Bites Man' not a headline, but 'Man Bites Dog' yesiree. "If it bleeds it leads", is a newsroom rule-of-thumb. It's always been that way, even back in Shakespeare's day, "Et tu Brute?"

[JMintzer]

So block out the other news channels that are more in line with the rest of the democratic free world and only watch the one channel that was fined over $780 million for spreading lies and admitted their guilt. OK.

Were they fined, or did they choose to settle, so that the true degree of their complicitness would not be revealed in a law suit?

Only on ToTV... SMDH...

[JMintzer]

Let's see if the amazing new Charter School makes the National News...

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

'Dog Bites Man' not a headline, but 'Man Bites Dog' yesiree. "If it bleeds it leads", is a newsroom rule-of-thumb. It's always been that way, even back in Shakespeare's day, "Et tu Brute?"

Just don't ask that in the Leon County school system without first checking with their Dept. of Education to make sure that Shakespeare passage is permitted and age-appropriate.

[mtlee024]

So you believe the guy who threw the punch was thinking, "I'm going to kill that man?"

I believe he intended to hit him, hurt him, and embarrass him. I don't believe it even occurred to him that it might kill the man. The punch was intentional, the death was not.

Aren't there different charges for an intentional killing and an accidental one? If so, we'll see what he is charged and convicted of.

Intent does not matter, results matter. His action, not accidental, but intended, resulted in the death of a man. That is manslaughter in every state.

[Bill14564]

Intent does not matter, results matter. His action, not accidental, but intended, resulted in the death of a man. That is manslaughter in every state.

You quote my post and summarize what I wrote yet you seem to believe you are disagreeing with me.

The actions were intentional, the death was not. The charges will be brought by the prosecutor based partly on those facts.

[xcaligirl]

From the news report, it was not ONE punch. And then he denied that he thought the guy was older than him. i guess he also doubted that the man was MUCH shorter than him also. Plus the man's wife was right there to witness the entire rage! Sounds like ro me that the man needed 'help' for his behavior way before that incident. And then it wasn't even his vehicle that was hit~!