We need a new roundabout thread. Burnsed Rec Center

[djlnc]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

[Two Bills]

Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

[golfing eagles]

Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

Absolutely. If you have entered the RB correctly and are attentive to other fools in the RB , you may cross the dotted white line right at the exit to get into the turn lane for the Rec center, per the photograph.

[JMintzer]

Personally I would just exit into the left lane of Denskin, then enter the slip road.
No one should be in front of you, and you will impede no one behind.

Yup. Exit from the outside lane on Morse, and there is initially a dashed lane separator. It's easy to cross into the left lane on Deskin (of course you have to make sure there is no traffic coming from your left)...

P.S. I fully expect another 10 pages on the pros/cons of roundabouts, with plenty of the requisite incorrect information and someone saying you NEVER go straight thru a roundabout, that EVERYTHING is a left turn...

[Bogie Shooter]

Yup. Exit from the outside lane on Morse, and there is initially a dashed lane separator. It's easy to cross into the left lane on Deskin (of course you have to make sure there is no traffic coming from your left)...

P.S. I full expect another 10 pages on the pros/cons of roundabouts, with plenty of the requisite incorrect information and someone saying you NEVER go straight thru a roundabout, that EVERYTHING is a left turn...
Most of the previous posts, on other threads, will be “cut & paste” to this one.🤦
10 page estimate may be low……

[Miboater]

I agree with staying in the outside lane for the right turn and try to get into the left lane on Deskin. If you can't get over in time you can use the turnaround just before the Osceola gate.

[golfing eagles]

I agree with staying in the outside lane for the right turn and try to get into the left lane on Deskin. If you can't get over in time you can use the turnaround just before the Osceola gate.

Shouldn't ever be necessary. There shouldn't be anyone there to block you. If there is, then either someone entered with you in the inside lane then made the lame-brained turn into the first exit, OR, you made the error of entering the RB when someone was coming around in the inside lane and exiting with you.

[Marathon Man]

Shouldn't ever be necessary. There shouldn't be anyone there to block you. If there is, then either someone entered with you in the inside lane then made the lame-brained turn into the first exit, OR, you made the error of entering the RB when someone was coming around in the inside lane and exiting with you.

Agree with this. If you know that you will be making the left turn into the rec center, then simply make sure that there is no one in the inside lane before you enter the roundabout, then exit into the left lane.

[djlnc]

Agree with this. If you know that you will be making the left turn into the rec center, then simply make sure that there is no one in the inside lane before you enter the roundabout, then exit into the left lane.

Then, couldn't the case be made that the dashed line should extend into Deskin Lane since one is not supposed to cross a solid line?

[PersonOfInterest]

If crossing the solid line bothers you, pass the left turn lane, go to the end of the block or first opportunity to make a U turn and come back up the opposite side of the street allowing you to make a right turn into the rec center.

There is a reasonable maneuver that will get you across to the left turn lane by only crossing dotted lines.

[mikeycereal]

Like any time entering a roundabout you stop and then go depending on traffic in the roundabout coming through on your left. An easy move when there is no one. Being patient and waiting for traffic in the roundabout is a common rule. Once clear, you can make that early cut into the far left. Like always I would watch other cars to see what they may do, and go as soon as it is determined that they're turning right before continuing in the RAB.

We had a similar but tighter maneuver in Hawaii where I lived. No roundabout, but it involved turning right and crossing a short solid line through 1 lane to get into the left turn lane. It was only about a 2-car length area to work with, and 2 traffic lights to get through. Once you knew about the maneuver you could proceed when clear with no problem. But it was always questionable as far as technical legality. This Morse one isn't because of the early dotted line.

[Two Bills]

Then, couldn't the case be made that the dashed line should extend into Deskin Lane since one is not supposed to cross a solid line?

No. You are crossing a hatched line exiting roundabout, and entering the left lane of Deskin.
Seems a perfectly legal maneuver to me.

[danglanzsr]

Single white lines can be crossed with caution. Only double white and yellow lines cannot be crossed. Please see the manual for uniform traffic control devices, MUTCD at:
https://mutcd.fhwa.dot.gov/services/publications/fhwaop02090/index.htm

[Maker]

There will be many different answers. Each is correct from one point of view.
Each will cause accidents when considering traffic entering from each road feeding and exiting the RAB.
Each will cause accidents when exiting immediately, or going around.
The diagrams will be referenced that do not account for traffic from all directions.
People will fight over who's opinion is right.

The best things I have heard is to never have another car next to you. That leaves space for you to use when they do something you never expect.

[midiwiz]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

You are correct I have no idea where these other goofs, changes that from inside to outside lanes..... if you are coming fromthe north is the way I take your example. Yes inside lane, if you were to use the outside lane then you are what everyone complains about.... just sayin....

[Dusty_Star]

No. You are crossing a hatched line exiting roundabout, and entering the left lane of Deskin.
Seems a perfectly legal maneuver to me.

Two Bills is correct, you cross safely at the broken line just as you are entering Deskin. Only if you go too far on Deskin will the line be solid. As others have mentioned you need to wait for it to be clear of other cars.

[TeresaE]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

A roundabout is no different from any other intersection when it comes to traffic patterns. Exiting a circle from an inside lane is akin to turning right from the left lane. Yes, it’s that simple. If you find yourself in the inside lane and need to exit, don’t just shoot over, change lanes properly. If you’ve got to go around again, go around again.

[Two Bills]

Here we go!

[golfing eagles]

A roundabout is no different from any other intersection when it comes to traffic patterns. Exiting a circle from an inside lane is akin to turning right from the left lane. Yes, it’s that simple. If you find yourself in the inside lane and need to exit, don’t just shoot over, change lanes properly. If you’ve got to go around again, go around again.

To quote Luke Skywalker from Star Wars 8: "Everything you have just said is WRONG". Please stay out of roundabouts until you gain a miniscule understanding of how to navigate them. (Hint to get you started: You may use the inside lane to go both 180 and 270 in the RB. Under your "understanding", and I use the term loosely, you would be going around in the inner lane until the sun goes supernova since you cannot change lanes within a RB)

[waterflower]

Remove all round abouts. Many have been removed through out the country for a reason. Traffic lights are the safest-no hesitation-traffic control.

[golfing eagles]

Remove all round abouts. Many have been removed through out the country for a reason. Traffic lights are the safest-no hesitation-traffic control.

Tell that to the dead people from accidents on 466, 466A and 44

Roundabouts save more lives than traffic lights in US | World Economic Forum (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/12/roundabouts-save-more-lives-than-traffic-lights/)

[JMintzer]

Remove all round abouts. Many have been removed through out the country for a reason. Traffic lights are the safest-no hesitation-traffic control.

It's been proven, time and time again, that roundabouts are safer than regular intersections... Both with traffic lights AND stop signs...

[rsmurano]

You can’t make the 1st right exit when in the inside lane. I know, many &$@$& do just like you can’t take the 3rd exit when in the outside lane. When you are in the outside lane, just go all the way over to the BURNSED rec center turn off, nobody will be next to you, you have the right of way at that time

[Bogie Shooter]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

Are you satisfied with your new roundabout thread…..yet?

[golfing eagles]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

Are you satisfied with your new roundabout thread…..yet?

C'mon, give the OP some slack. After all it's been at least 2 or 3 days since the last RB thread :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Actually, it would be interesting to go through all the RB threads in the last 3 or 6 months and get a count of how many posts were absolutely wrong. The one just above was a doozey, I doubt we'll get a response from her since she is still going around and around in the inner lane, or worse yet hit another vehicle by changing lanes in that RB.

[djlnc]

Are you satisfied with your new roundabout thread…..yet?

It's gone well. I think my question was of interest, since it's an awkward maneuver to do while observing the roundabout rules.

I do as suggested and enter the outside lane, immediately exit the outside lane, then maneuver over to the left - but I always feel a little uneasy doing it that way.

[DrHitch]

That was easy

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/drhitch-82033/albums/pics-for-posts/10277-burnsed-roundabout-fixed.jpg

[golfing eagles]

It's gone well. I think my question was of interest, since it's an awkward maneuver to do while observing the roundabout rules.

I'm forced to agree with that assessment. After all, we routed out at least one person that we don't want to get anywhere near in a RB:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Bogie Shooter]

I'm forced to agree with that assessment. After all, we routed out at least one person that we don't want to get anywhere near in a RB:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

More to come…….:ohdear:

[New Englander]

More to come…….:ohdear:

If it doesn't interest you why keep reading it?

[BobnBev]

Everybody knows the right way to use a roundabout. It's THEIR way. You can explain it till you're blue in the face, but that won't change their mind. I have 911 on speed dial.:police:

[JMintzer]

Are you satisfied with your new roundabout thread…..yet?

I'm disappointed... I expected much more nonsense...:(:D:1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

It's gone well. I think my question was of interest, since it's an awkward maneuver to do while observing the roundabout rules.

I do as suggested and enter the outside lane, immediately exit the outside lane, then maneuver over to the left - but I always feel a little uneasy doing it that way.

Yes, you asked a reasonable question. And more than a few reasonable answers have been given...

I don't think anyone is complaining about you...

[golfing eagles]

Yes, you asked a reasonable question. And more than a few reasonable answers have been given...

I don't think anyone is complaining about you...

Plus look at all the entertaining answers we've gleaned from his thread

[Bogie Shooter]

If it doesn't interest you why keep reading it?

:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[donfey]

When traveling north on Morse and wanting to exit for the Burnsed Rec Center, what would be the "correct" way? If you enter the roundabout in the outside lane and exit immediately, there is a solid line on the left that should not be crossed. If you enter the roundabout in the inside lane you are not supposed to exit at the first exit. It would seem the "correct" way would be to enter the roundabout in the inside lane and then go all the way around the roundabout to exit at Deskin and get into the left turn lane for Burnsed.

What would you do if you were at a cross roads, without a roundabout? Do that.

[Bill14564]

What would you do if you were at a cross roads, without a roundabout? Do that.

But the answer is the same.

If you were in the left lane you would either go straight or turn left, make a U-turn, then use the left lane on Deskin to turn into Burnsed.

If you were in the right lane you could only turn left into Burnsed by cutting across the left lane and two solid lines.

Chances are good that I would turn from the outside lane into the left (inside) lane as several have suggested. It still isn't clear if that is the best choice or strictly legal.

[Tyson]

NEVER EVER enter or go around a round about from the outside or right lane. The traffic on the inside lane or left lane going straight will T Bone you.