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JGibson
08-10-2023, 07:04 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
Keefelane66
08-10-2023, 07:11 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
Contact Public Safety Fire Department.
mtdjed
08-10-2023, 07:44 AM
Contact Public Safety Fire Department.
My neighbor back in Marblehead, MA actually had his house catch fire due to a grease fire in his grill. The house had wood siding.
Grease fires can be common due to buildup. I would feel very comfortable in requesting the neighbor to move it away from your house as a matter of "SAFETY".
DAVES
08-10-2023, 08:12 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
I would contact the Villages Offices. They are helpful in these matters. They may even send a representative to speak to both you and the neighbor.
If, Air B nb. They are renting so you are not dealing with the property owner. Making the issue even more complex. Our previous home, not in Florida, we had the neighbors from hell buy the home next door to us. Part of the reason we moved after 40 years of enjoying the house and the neighborhood. So far, we've been lucky. There is always one but they are several houses away from us.
Two Bills
08-10-2023, 08:24 AM
If the Air b&b has an absentee landlord, I would just move the thing against their wall.
Renter must have moved it if questions are raised.
Otherwise just ask nicely to remove it to their wall, as the thing is dirtying your siding, and is a fire risk.
MrFlorida
08-10-2023, 08:27 AM
Move it yourself.
wisbad1
08-10-2023, 06:45 PM
If the Air b&b has an absentee landlord, I would just move the thing against their wall.
Renter must have moved it if questions are raised.
Otherwise just ask nicely to remove it to their wall, as the thing is dirtying your siding, and is a fire risk.
Put it on the street marked free!
GizmoWhiskers
08-11-2023, 05:08 AM
Move it yourself.
Yep!
skippy05
08-11-2023, 05:54 AM
Call a realtor today and sell. There isn't any other way to be free of the Villages AirBnBs. They are destroying everything nice.
bogmonster
08-11-2023, 05:55 AM
Or maybe just slip a dead rat in there. Might solve both the grill and Airbnb problem.
La lamy
08-11-2023, 06:16 AM
Put it on the street marked free!
Not ideal suggestion but funny!
msilagy
08-11-2023, 06:34 AM
Move it after the current tenants move out. Far away from the side of your home. Or ask them if you can move it. If they are nice they'll help you, if not you'll have to wait.
Ski Bum
08-11-2023, 06:40 AM
I am a landlord. I had trouble with renters moving my grill up against the house. They did it because there was shade there. So maybe this landlord doesn't even know of the problem.
I eventually had to stake and chain mine in place.
JohnN
08-11-2023, 07:09 AM
A few years back, my buddy set his house on fire with a BBQ grill next to the house.
Bill14564
08-11-2023, 07:27 AM
Trespassing is never a good idea.
Look at your deed restrictions to see what rights you have. You may have some control over the use of the property next to your wall. You may also have rights to access that area.
Customer Service Center and/or the VPSD would be the best to contact regarding the rules.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 07:39 AM
Trespassing is never a good idea.
Look at your deed restrictions to see what rights you have. You may have some control over the use of the property next to your wall. You may also have rights to access that area.
Customer Service Center and/or the VPSD would be the best to contact regarding the rules.
The deed restrictions for a courtyard villa allow your neighbor to use the space between the houses, some of which is actually owned by you. It is called a sideyard easement. You have the right to get access to that area, but you need to provide prior notice. I don't see anything on the deed restriction document that would specifically prohibit a barbeque grill.
I would suggest that the OP contact the local Fire Department and request an official inspection of the house, with a written report, to determine if the grill poses a fire hazard, or if there are any rules regarding how close the grill can be to the exterior wall.
Vermilion Villager
08-11-2023, 07:42 AM
Draw an imaginary line directly below the edge of your eaves of the roof to the ground. That is where the property line is. Everything below those eaves is your property even if it is inside the wall of the other property.
Veiragirl
08-11-2023, 07:47 AM
put it on the street marked free!
excellant!!!
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 07:51 AM
Draw an imaginary line directly below the edge of your eaves of the roof to the ground. That is where the property line is. Everything below those eaves is your property even if it is inside the wall of the other property.
That is not the way it works with a courtyard villa. Typically, courtyard villas are about 10 feet apart, and the property line is 5 feet from each exterior wall. But, because of the sideyard easement, described in the deed restriction document, and on the official property plat, the property owner on one side of the house and inside the fence has the right to use and to maintain the 10 foot area between the houses. The other property owner cannot dictate what the next door neighbor does in the easrment area as long as they don't violate any rules.
flower7330@gmail.com
08-11-2023, 07:59 AM
When we rented a house in TV last fall there was a strict rule that you could not bring in or use an outside grill of any kind. This is from the TV home rental dept. They said that they had a few fires start when renters used grills. I'm sure that rule transfers to AirBnB renters.
Nana2Teddy
08-11-2023, 08:03 AM
That is not the way it works with a courtyard villa. Typically, courtyard villas are about 10 feet apart, and the property line is 5 feet from each exterior wall. But, because of the sideyard easement, described in the deed restriction document, and on the official property plat, the property owner on one side of the house and inside the fence has the right to use and to maintain the 10 foot area between the houses. The other property owner cannot dictate what the next door neighbor does in the easrment area as long as they don't violate any rules.
It’s the same with veranda homes, which we have.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 08:08 AM
When we rented a house in TV last fall there was a strict rule that you could not bring in or use an outside grill of any kind. This is from the TV home rental dept. They said that they had a few fires start when renters used grills. I'm sure that rule transfers to AirBnB renters.
Note that The Villages does not have a home rental department, except for the lifestyle visits. Some people think that The Villages Hometown Property Management Company is owned by The Villages. It's not. That is a private company and not owned by The Villages.
MikeN
08-11-2023, 08:09 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
If it’s that close to your home it’s on your property
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 08:13 AM
If it’s that close to your home it’s on your property
See Post No. 19
Dantes
08-11-2023, 08:16 AM
We are looking to move The Villages doesn’t have the hometown feel like it did. It’s becoming like any other city.
rtrav711
08-11-2023, 08:51 AM
Just suggest you send them a letter...identifying the problem and advising you will have it cleaned and send them the bill. Secondly...would suggest you advise them you would be looking for damages should the side of your home catches fire. You may further suggest they can contact their insurance carrier for payment or reimbursement for the expenses. Appears to me they are legally responsible for any damages they cause to your home.
Vermilion Villager
08-11-2023, 08:53 AM
See Post No. 19
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Vermilion Villager
08-11-2023, 08:57 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
If there is smoke and grease on your home that is tantamount to damage. Here is the language in my documents that addresses this. Yours should be the same or similiar.
The Owner of the dominant tenement shall not attach any object to a
wall, fence or dwelling belonging to the servient tenement or disturb the grading of the easement area or otherwise act -with respect to the easement area in any manner which would damage the servient tenement.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 09:01 AM
If there is smoke and grease on your home that is tantamount to damage. Here is the language in my documents that addresses this. Yours should be the same or similiar.
The Owner of the dominant tenement shall not attach any object to a
wall, fence or dwelling belonging to the servient tenement or disturb the grading of the easement area or otherwise act -with respect to the easement area in any manner which would damage the servient tenement.
I agree. If the grill causes any damage to the OP's house, the next door neighbor would be responsible.
Lizlo
08-11-2023, 09:06 AM
I lived next door to a AirBNB for 6 years. It was awful with new neighbors every few days or weekly. This was a new house with pool and garage. When new tenants arrived the grill would get moved to a new location. Inside lanai, out in back yard, in the driveway, etc. Each new tenant wanted it in a different place. Moral of the story, just go over and move it when you see the tenants leave. OR contact the owner and ask him to secure it in a safe place away from both houses. I am sure the owner would agree, usually they do not want trouble.
Jameson
08-11-2023, 09:08 AM
I agree with the damages they are causing. Maybe have your wall cleaned by a pro and send the owner the bill. If they don't pay then sue them in small claims court. They should get the message. It may be wise to put them on notice first, maybe via Airbnb and directly.
JGibson
08-11-2023, 10:28 AM
Thank you everyone for your insight and advice greatly appreciated.
I have pictures for proof when I move it and my reason for moving it.
Also I will stop by the VPSD and show them the pics.
I don't think there is any damage that a pressure washing can't fix.
Sad thing is everyone on our block pressure washes each other's neighborhoods side wall as it's more convenient for everyone and don't have to go in neighbors yard but this Airbnb owner won't so I still pressure wash my other neighbors side wall and mine.
They are also negligent about the weeds and landscaping, I hate to be that guy filing out a complaint but they're giving me no choice.
Thanks everyone.
Oscawana
08-11-2023, 11:15 AM
I agree. I wish there was a way we could impact a change on this
nn0wheremann
08-11-2023, 02:27 PM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
Be glad it is not a turkey fryer
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 04:18 PM
Trespassing is never a good idea.
Look at your deed restrictions to see what rights you have. You may have some control over the use of the property next to your wall. You may also have rights to access that area.
Customer Service Center and/or the VPSD would be the best to contact regarding the rules.
In CYV owners has right to inspect his side of house, that 1 foot assessment is there for this exact propose, nothing should come with 1 foot of neighbor’s wall.
Bill14564
08-11-2023, 04:38 PM
In CYV owners has right to inspect his side of house, that 1 foot assessment is there for this exact propose, nothing should come with 1 foot of neighbor’s wall.
I believe you mean easement and not all deed restrictions provide for that 1 foot section. I haven't looked at many but I haven't found it at all. The typical language is:
The Owner of the servient tenement shall have the right at all reasonable times to enter upon the easement area, including the right to cross over the dominant tenement for such entry, in order to perform work related to the use and maintenance of the servient tenement.
Depending on the definition of "reasonable times," probably a defense against trespassing. Note, this doesn't necessarily give the right to touch or move anything within the easement.
Description of the Side Yard Easement. The side yard easement shall extend over that portion of the servient tenement lying between the side Homesite lot line of the dominant tenement and the building wall...
No mention at all of a one foot exclusion from the easement.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 04:57 PM
In CYV owners has right to inspect his side of house, that 1 foot assessment is there for this exact propose, nothing should come with 1 foot of neighbor’s wall.
Not exactly. I would suggest that you read the deed restriction document very, very carefully. There is nothing in the document that limits the access to within one foot of the neighbor's exterior wall. It is complicated, but I have read it many times, and there is no one foot limit. The one foot limit only applies to the property line, not to the exterior wall.
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 05:19 PM
I believe you mean easement and not all deed restrictions provide for that 1 foot section. I haven't looked at many but I haven't found it at all. The typical language is:
The Owner of the servient tenement shall have the right at all reasonable times to enter upon the easement area, including the right to cross over the dominant tenement for such entry, in order to perform work related to the use and maintenance of the servient tenement.
Depending on the definition of "reasonable times," probably a defense against trespassing. Note, this doesn't necessarily give the right to touch or move anything within the easement.
Description of the Side Yard Easement. The side yard easement shall extend over that portion of the servient tenement lying between the side Homesite lot line of the dominant tenement and the building wall...
No mention at all of a one foot exclusion from the easement.
Over hang is 1 foot.
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 05:24 PM
Not exactly. I would suggest that you read the deed restriction document very, very carefully. There is nothing in the document that limits the access to within one foot of the neighbor's exterior wall. It is complicated, but I have read it many times, and there is no one foot limit. The one foot limit only applies to the property line, not to the exterior wall.
I did same goes for out front door I can’t have nothing within 1 foot of neighbors house. If I do and i damage his house I am responsible. it don’t not cover the driveway due to curving, which can make it hard to get out of my garage when brick retaining wall sticks up.
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 05:28 PM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
If you wall damaged make the neighbor owner pay for it.
Bill14564
08-11-2023, 05:32 PM
I believe you mean easement and not all deed restrictions provide for that 1 foot section. I haven't looked at many but I haven't found it at all. The typical language is:
The Owner of the servient tenement shall have the right at all reasonable times to enter upon the easement area, including the right to cross over the dominant tenement for such entry, in order to perform work related to the use and maintenance of the servient tenement.
Depending on the definition of "reasonable times," probably a defense against trespassing. Note, this doesn't necessarily give the right to touch or move anything within the easement.
Description of the Side Yard Easement. The side yard easement shall extend over that portion of the servient tenement lying between the side Homesite lot line of the dominant tenement and the building wall...
No mention at all of a one foot exclusion from the easement.
Over hang is 1 foot.
Where in my post do you see the word over hang? Where in your deed restrictions do you see the word over hang? I see "and the building wall" not "up to one foot of the building wall" or "up to the over hang."
tophcfa
08-11-2023, 07:19 PM
Thank you everyone for your insight and advice greatly appreciated.
I have pictures for proof when I move it and my reason for moving it.
Also I will stop by the VPSD and show them the pics.
I don't think there is any damage that a pressure washing can't fix.
Sad thing is everyone on our block pressure washes each other's neighborhoods side wall as it's more convenient for everyone and don't have to go in neighbors yard but this Airbnb owner won't so I still pressure wash my other neighbors side wall and mine.
They are also negligent about the weeds and landscaping, I hate to be that guy filing out a complaint but they're giving me no choice.
Thanks everyone.
Good luck with your dilemma, I feel for you. Just don’t wast your time mentioning that short term rentals are part of your complaint because nothing will be done about that.
Marsha11
08-11-2023, 07:46 PM
I'm thinking of you canceling this issue to renters. Thats the least you need to do as lanlord
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 08:31 PM
Where in my post do you see the word over hang? Where in your deed restrictions do you see the word over hang? I see "and the building wall" not "up to one foot of the building wall" or "up to the over hang."
Read further down it talks about one foot assessment.
Topspinmo
08-11-2023, 08:40 PM
Good luck with your dilemma, I feel for you. Just don’t wast your time mentioning that short term rentals are part of your complaint because nothing will be done about that.
Nothing will be done calling country fire department in Marion county. I don’t about other counties? District told me to call county fire department. I had same problem barbecuing right up against my wall. After couple discussions with neighbor about damage and law suit moved the grill away from wall. I was afraid it was going to melt plastic esophagus at top of wall or worse catch fire especially if they had grease fire. Some people don’t think or don’t care as long as not affecting them. They got all these rules you think that would one?
Bill14564
08-11-2023, 08:49 PM
Read further down it talks about one foot assessment.
Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 10:48 PM
Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
Correct. The only reference to a one foot distance is about an "encroachment" of the property line, which is not referring to a one foot distance from the exterior wall. The property line is 5 feet away from the exterior wall. There is nothing in the document that says anything about a one foot distance from the exterior wall.
retiredguy123
08-11-2023, 11:11 PM
I did same goes for out front door I can’t have nothing within 1 foot of neighbors house. If I do and i damage his house I am responsible. it don’t not cover the driveway due to curving, which can make it hard to get out of my garage when brick retaining wall sticks up.
See Post No. 47. You are misreading what the document actually says about a one foot distance.
Dotneko
08-12-2023, 01:39 AM
I did same goes for out front door I can’t have nothing within 1 foot of neighbors house. If I do and i damage his house I am responsible. it don’t not cover the driveway due to curving, which can make it hard to get out of my garage when brick retaining wall sticks up.
Are you OK? Your last several replies have odd wordings. Is there someone there to see if you are having a stroke?
Topspinmo
08-12-2023, 07:04 AM
Section 3? That pertains to encroachment due to settling and shifting of construction and improvements.
So why when people put pavers down or concrete there alway one foot area from owners side of the house or out front door? I read several years ago somebody concrete the space up to neighbors house and had to remove it. I will not put myself in situations to damage my neighbors property.
Bill14564
08-12-2023, 07:20 AM
So why when people put pavers down or concrete there alway one foot area from owners side of the house or out front door? I read several years ago somebody concrete the space up to neighbors house and had to remove it. I will not put myself in situations to damage my neighbors property.
I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.
Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...
1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.
2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.
3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.
So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.
JGibson
08-12-2023, 07:26 AM
So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
retiredguy123
08-12-2023, 07:33 AM
So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
The sideyard easement allows your neighbor to landscape the entire 10 foot area inside the fence and between your houses. But, the landscaping cannot touch your house or have anything attached to your house.
JGibson
08-12-2023, 07:37 AM
I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.
Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...
1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.
2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.
3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.
So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.
I didn't go an actually measure with a tape so it could be 1 1/2 - 2 feet but as you mention the lid will open farther than the grill which would put it within inches off my house.
When they built these houses they put a slab of concrete for grills outside the glass sliding door with front and back of grill facing away from both houses.
That is where the grill is supposed to go.
Bill14564
08-12-2023, 07:49 AM
I didn't go an actually measure with a tape so it could be 1 1/2 - 2 feet but as you mention the lid will open farther than the grill which would put it within inches off my house.
When they built these houses they put a slab of concrete for grills outside the glass sliding door with front and back of grill facing away from both houses.
That is where the grill is supposed to go.
I haven't stayed in many home rentals but I was always careful to try and leave things the way I found them. I didn't move furniture (or at least I moved it back) and that includes outdoor furniture. I don't know who put things the way I found them, I just took care to leave them there.
Is it possible a previous renter put the grill near your house and the homeowner has no idea it was moved? Perhaps just asking the current renter to use the pad would correct the situation.
Topspinmo
08-12-2023, 08:20 AM
I don't know about pavers or concrete. This thread was about a grill.
Maybe we can put the one foot issue to bed...
1. There are two people on here who have looked at the deed restrictions and cannot find the one foot that you mention. You have looked at the deed restrictions and the only mention of one foot you have found concerns an encroachment by an improvement. There just doesn't seem to be anything in the deed restrictions about placing non-fixed items (grills) within one foot of the wall.
2. Most grills cannot be placed within one foot of the wall. When I open the cover to my grill it swings back and takes up space behind the grill. If my grill is within a foot of the wall behind it I would not be able to open the cover. Many (not all) grills are like this. It is likely that the grill in question is not closer than one foot to the house anyway.
3. It doesn't matter how far away from the wall the grill is, if it causes damage then the grill owner is responsible. If the grill is three feet away but causes damage the grill owner is still responsible. Placing the grill closer to the house makes it more likely damage will occur but moving it away does not guarantee damage will not occur.
So there does not appear to be a one foot restriction, it is not likely the grill is within one foot of the house anyway, and none of that matters since if the grill causes damage the grill owner is responsible no matter how far away the grill was.
So those two people are lawyers? If not it their opinion of interpretation of lawyers jargon.
So most grills you reaching, why just say don’t put crap against neighbors house, if you do you will be responsible for damage. Don’t matter whether it’s rental or not the owner responsibility. You have you opinion and I have mine. I will not put myself in that predicament. Why encourage others? Also the one foot area so I can put termites protection in and for drainage.
Topspinmo
08-12-2023, 08:26 AM
So if the property line is 5 feet from exterior wall does that mean the bushes she put up against my wall could be a deed violation also if I didn't want them there.
I can't pressure wash behind the bushes which doesn't really upset me like the barbecue but would be good to know in case she gets real difficult about the grill. Thanks.
If bushes cause damage you can get relief. I’d be more concerned with irrigation which IMO was stupid putting irrigation pop up und over hang of someone else’s property. It those pop up fail water may shoot up into neighbors addict. I would think in that would be their fault. But, only lawyers can answer that question. And yes I can have opinion.
retiredguy123
08-12-2023, 08:35 AM
If bushes cause damage you can get relief. I’d be more concerned with irrigation which IMO was stupid putting irrigation pop up und over hang of someone else’s property. It those pop up fail water may shoot up into neighbors addict. I would think in that would be their fault. But, only lawyers can answer that question. And yes I can have opinion.
Good point. It was not a good idea for the developer to install about 5 pop-up sprinklers under the eave of someone else's house. If your next door neighbor has a broken sprinkler head, the water can get into your attic and actually flood your house. You should periodically inspect your eaves to make sure this situation is not occurring.
Bill14564
08-12-2023, 08:47 AM
So those two people are lawyers? If not it their opinion of interpretation of lawyers jargon.
Not lawyers, just proficient in understanding the English language and took the time to read the deed restrictions.
So most grills you reaching, why just say don’t put crap against neighbors house, if you do you will be responsible for damage. Don’t matter whether it’s rental or not the owner responsibility.
It might be useful to have another look at my number 3.
You have you opinion and I have mine. I will not put myself in that predicament. Why encourage others? Also the one foot area so I can put termites protection in and for drainage.
I didn't encourage others to do anything, I simply tried to help you to understand what was in that document you signed. I'm done with that now.
Topspinmo
08-12-2023, 10:35 AM
Not lawyers, just proficient in understanding the English language and took the time to read the deed restrictions.
It might be useful to have another look at my number 3.
I didn't encourage others to do anything, I simply tried to help you to understand what was in that document you signed. I'm done with that now.
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cjrjck
08-12-2023, 11:20 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
Maybe it is a cultural thing, but the southerner in me would lead me to ask the tenant and likely the owner to move the grill. Long before I would call the fire department or try to move it myself (which I highly advise against in a stand your ground state). I live in a CYV with stucco walls and can't even begin to picture my neighbors trying to scale the 5 to 6 foot wall. But if either asked me to move my grill under the circumstances your raise, I would not hesitate to do so.
retiredguy123
08-12-2023, 11:52 AM
Thank you everyone for your insight and advice greatly appreciated.
I have pictures for proof when I move it and my reason for moving it.
Also I will stop by the VPSD and show them the pics.
I don't think there is any damage that a pressure washing can't fix.
Sad thing is everyone on our block pressure washes each other's neighborhoods side wall as it's more convenient for everyone and don't have to go in neighbors yard but this Airbnb owner won't so I still pressure wash my other neighbors side wall and mine.
They are also negligent about the weeds and landscaping, I hate to be that guy filing out a complaint but they're giving me no choice.
Thanks everyone.
I have never heard of pressure washing a neighbor's house. I recently had my house washed, but I only had the 4 sides of my house washed. I would hate to leave a side of my house unwashed and to depend on my next door neighbor washing it for me. I don't think this is a common practice in The Villages. Has anyone else heard of this?
Topspinmo
08-12-2023, 01:42 PM
I have never heard of pressure washing a neighbor's house. I recently had my house washed, but I only had the 4 sides of my house washed. I would hate to leave a side of my house unwashed and to depend on my next door neighbor washing it for me. I don't think this is a common practice in The Villages. Has anyone else heard of this?
Agree!
I don’t want somebody pressure washing my house, it’s not neighbors responsibility. Neighbors responsibility is NOT to damage my house. If does going to pay for damages to my satisfaction and I am very picky person. Some might as anal…
JGibson
08-13-2023, 08:17 AM
I have never heard of pressure washing a neighbor's house. I recently had my house washed, but I only had the 4 sides of my house washed. I would hate to leave a side of my house unwashed and to depend on my next door neighbor washing it for me. I don't think this is a common practice in The Villages. Has anyone else heard of this?
I didn't start the precedent of washing neighbors wall just went with the flow of the very friendly neighbors precedent, but it's in my side yard and I have to look at it through my windows so it's no big deal and my neighbor appreciates it as he is 85 years old and not capable.
If your hire someone they don't want to do the neighbors wall.
Though my real issue is the grill not the pressure washing.
I also had no plans to call VPSD only swing by the station house and have a chat on the subject.
I just want to make sure I'm on solid foundation on this subject.
retiredguy123
08-13-2023, 08:41 AM
I didn't start the precedent of washing neighbors wall just went with the flow of the very friendly neighbors precedent, but it's in my side yard and I have to look at it through my windows so it's no big deal and my neighbor appreciates it as he is 85 years old and not capable.
If your hire someone they don't want to do the neighbors wall.
Though my real issue is the grill not the pressure washing.
I also had no plans to call VPSD only swing by the station house and have a chat on the subject.
I just want to make sure I'm on solid foundation on this subject.
Egner's washed my house for $85. Not worth doing it myself. I doubt that they would wash the neighbor's wall because of the liability.
retiredguy123
08-14-2023, 07:16 AM
My Airbnb neighbor has decided to put their grill a foot away from the side of my house and all the smoke and grease is on my side wall.
It's a CYV where my side wall is inside her fenced-in yard.
Before I ask them to move it closer to their house what are the rules for how close a grill can be to your neighbor's house or even your own house?
Regarding the OP 's initial question, here is the official reply I got from The Villages Public Safety office:
Hi,
Thank you for your question.
The placement of open flame grills codes apply only to condos and apartments.
There is no enforceable fire code for single family dwellings; however, there may be a restriction in your HOA rules and regulations.
Manufactures recommendations and best practice is to operate open flame grills at least 10 feet from structures; however, this is not enforceable through the Florida Fire Prevention Code, Seventh Edition.
Best Regards,
Edward D. Raulerson, Division Chief-Fire Prevention, CFPE
3035 S. Morse Boulevard | The Villages, Florida 32163
Direct: 352.205.8280 | Fax: 352.205.8290
Edward.Raulerson@DistrictGov.org | Village Community Development Districts (http://www.DistrictGov.org)
patfla06
08-14-2023, 10:53 PM
That’s an inconsiderate thing to do.
I would move it also.
JGibson
08-15-2023, 07:55 AM
Regarding the OP 's initial question, here is the official reply I got from The Villages Public Safety office:
Hi,
Thank you for your question.
The placement of open flame grills codes apply only to condos and apartments.
There is no enforceable fire code for single family dwellings; however, there may be a restriction in your HOA rules and regulations.
Manufactures recommendations and best practice is to operate open flame grills at least 10 feet from structures; however, this is not enforceable through the Florida Fire Prevention Code, Seventh Edition.
Best Regards,
Edward D. Raulerson, Division Chief-Fire Prevention, CFPE
3035 S. Morse Boulevard | The Villages, Florida 32163
Direct: 352.205.8280 | Fax: 352.205.8290
Edward.Raulerson@DistrictGov.org | Village Community Development Districts (http://www.DistrictGov.org)
Thanks for the research but I wonder if this applies to putting a grill on your neighbors wall.
The situation has been resolved in a peaceful matter but I will have to keep an eye on new renters moving back to my wall.
I need to find out who actually owns the house.
retiredguy123
08-15-2023, 08:03 AM
Thanks for the research but I wonder if this applies to putting a grill on your neighbors wall.
The situation has been resolved in a peaceful matter but I will have to keep an eye on new renters moving back to my wall.
I need to find out who actually owns the house.
You can search the address on the county real estate website. It will tell you the owner of the house.
Maker
08-15-2023, 08:20 AM
Renters probably don't know all the fine points of the easements and property lines. Try knocking on their door and introduce yourself, and let them know that they need to move the grill off your property and away from your house. Perhaps they will right away and problem is solved.
Bill14564
08-15-2023, 08:34 AM
Renters probably don't know all the fine points of the easements and property lines. Try knocking on their door and introduce yourself, and let them know that they need to move the grill off your property and away from your house. Perhaps they will right away and problem is solved.
Asking them to move the grill is the right approach.
But realize, the easement allows them use of the property right up to the house.
Maker
08-15-2023, 04:56 PM
Asking them to move the grill is the right approach.
But realize, the easement allows them use of the property right up to the house.
Using the property does not include causing damage. Renters have a security deposit that they would forfeit to cover damages, so they have an incentive not to do that.
Bill14564
08-15-2023, 05:19 PM
Using the property does not include causing damage. Renters have a security deposit that they would forfeit to cover damages, so they have an incentive not to do that.
Please read again what I was replying to. The discussion was about the fine points of easement lines, not damage.
JGibson
08-16-2023, 07:27 AM
You can search the address on the county real estate website. It will tell you the owner of the house.
Thanks I will do that.
To reiterate the issue has been solved peacefully and I was only trying to gain some insight on certain rules.
I would rather the owner tell her tenants about the grill then me having to knock on their door every time a new tenant comes in and moves the grill.
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