? For Us Frogs

[Michael G.]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

[Velvet]

I can’t speak for myself but my aunt and uncle moved to TV in 1992, lived and died here. They had welcoming family and friends all over the world. But TV was it for them.

[Stu from NYC]

Very doubtful.

[Bitsee]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

[VApeople]

If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?


NO!!!

We moved here from Virginia 7 years ago and have never even thought once about moving back to Virginia.

[Topspinmo]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

I’m afraid it’s going to get hot just about everywhere in summer. We may have record newt but not highest heat, close but not all time record. Yes insurance and maintenance fees (depending on which district you live in) going to take jump also. I don’t consider property taxes cheaper compared to where I can from and what I had. But, I see the point if came from outrageous tax state.

[Topspinmo]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Sounds prefect, I would invest in several types of mechanical snow moving machines, walk behinds. Tractor with front scoop, rear blade and brush attachment, plus heavy duty hand held blower. Scooping snow by hand breaks my back down quickly :cryin2:

[brianherlihy]

we are going to sell our house and go back home to nh. we will list with the villages and hope for the best. and if you know for pople looking to buy and save mones .emaile kernann@co0mcast.net we are below 44 in a big home

[villagetinker]

Short answer no not going back north, i am too old to shovel snow.....

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

We spent last summer here before we decided to sell our house up north and make this move permanent. All 'Climate' discussion aside-I just don't remember last summer being anywhere near as unbearable as this June/July/August seems to have been. If I knew (or felt) then, what I know (and feel) now about the heat in the summers, I think I would have kept the house up north for a while. Having said that, we'll figure out how to adapt and I doubt I'll reverse the decision-remaining 'Frogs'.

[Michael G.]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.



LOL
Great description about Wisconsin.
I lived up there for 75 years, and everything you mention are things that
I miss the most.

One big reason that keeps my wife and I down in Florida is our one and only adopted son.
He is one of a kind and helps us with Dr. appointments, financial help, and is always available 24-7, especially now that my wife has colon cancer.

Our son wants to take us back to Wisconsin one more time, but until my wife
gets her strength back it looks pretty bleak.

[Keefelane66]

Enjoy returning to Rhode Island each summer., Thanksgiving and Christmas Food, Family and Friendships. Basically we’re here for the income tax savings. With the added costs for insurance, amenities and taxes it’s not much difference than living in Ri. Im a 20 min walk to my boat dock and a 15 min drive to several golf courses no executive courses

[Michael G.]

Short answer no not going back north, i am too old to shovel snow.....

I don't think many seniors in the north shovel much snow today with all the snow
removal equipment they have now days.

Believe it or not, I always looked at shoveling 3 inches of snow around was exercise.

But driving in it going to doctor's appointment etc., that's another story.

[larbud]

We spent last summer here before we decided to sell our house up north and make this move permanent. All 'Climate' discussion aside-I just don't remember last summer being anywhere near as unbearable as this June/July/August seems to have been. If I knew (or felt) then, what I know (and feel) now about the heat in the summers, I think I would have kept the house up north for a while. Having said that, we'll figure out how to adapt and I doubt I'll reverse the decision-remaining 'Frogs'.
Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

[Kelevision]

Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

The media isn’t announcing extreme heat alerts everyday. The national weather service is.

[Bitsee]

I'm so very sorry to hear that.

Going old is so hard.
We decided that we will do whatever it takes to enjoy these so called Golden Years.

We made so many friends in Florida over the years that are sadly gone now.
Could of..Should of...Would of...is no longer in my vocabulary.

I wish you and your wife much comfort and pleasant memories only 😊

[Bitsee]

I'm so very sorry to hear about your wife.

We decided to do whatever we can to enjoy these so-called "Golden Years" from here on out.
Should of...Could of...Would of ...is no longer a part of my vocabulary.

We lost so many wonderful friends from Florida over the years that it changes your perspective on living and what is most important to you each and every day.

I hope for great comfort and fond memories only for you and
your wife.������

[Al2014]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
I know you ask about moving back north, however, prior to retiring I was in mortgage banking in Alabama. We had a lot of folks move to the NE Alabama and NW Geordia Mountains from Florida. They left Florida but did not want to go all the way back north so they moved half the way back. They are Half Backers.

[ThirdOfFive]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
"I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?"

Nope. Negatory. NWIH, Uh-uh. Ain't gonna happen.

First (and probably foremost) I don't believe most of the negatives. Crime? Where I come from folks walk into big box stores, help themselves and walk out with impunity. Here? Just read a story about some guy who got jailed for shoplifting a battery charger, and electrical cord and a couple of buckets. Back where I come from this isn't even a "crime" any more. Here, it is a headline.

Insurance? I pay less for my home insurance here than back in Minnesota--on a property here worth about 1.5 times as much. Car insurance about the same. Non-issue.

Crowded? Back where I was raised, "next-door neighbor" means two miles down the road. Maybe desirable to some. Me? Nope. Not at this age.

Too hot? Well, it is 5:00 PM now and I just returned from playing 18 holes of golf--walking, not riding in a cart--at about 3:45. Maybe it is "too hot" for folks who let media control their lives. That ain't me. Plenty of water and taking my time--I could play all day. Maybe tomorrow I will.

We're in our third year of residency and TV has either met or exceeded our expectations in every respect. No place is perfect but Florida in general, and TV in particular, surely does beat living in the fourth-highest taxed state in the nation, six months of snow up to my armpits, and feeling the need to carry a pistol every time I left the house.

Ain't goin' back.

[Michael G.]

I'm so very sorry to hear that.

Going old is so hard.
We decided that we will do whatever it takes to enjoy these so called Golden Years.

We made so many friends in Florida over the years that are sadly gone now.
Could of..Should of...Would of...is no longer in my vocabulary.

I wish you and your wife much comfort and pleasant memories only 😊

Thank You for your kind words.
Let past memories never end.

[Michael 61]

Nope - Love it here - yeah, it’s pretty hot right now, but I’m surviving it fine.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

I wouldn't have moved to Florida in the first place. I only came because I knew I'd miss my husband if I didn't.

[xkeowner]

NO!

[kkingston57]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

Live in Florida entire life and ideally would have 2nd home up north as I watch thermometer hover near 100 degrees, high humidity and 0 breeze.

[kkingston57]

Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

Orlando did have 3 record heat in last 7 days. Temperatures are facts

[NotGolfer]

We're from the Upper Midwest as well. There are some elements I miss but not enough to move back. Change has happened up there too. Heat, rain-storms---the one yesterday produced large hail. On their social media---people complain the same as here. Towns growing, folks don't drive the round-abouts correctly. People speed through town and neighborhood streets. The list goes on. When we moved here 14 yrs ago we both said, "we're not moving back!!!" Winter got tiresome---oh, winter is another thing....it's lasting longer and longer, it seems. I know folks who have moved back to where they're "from" and say---"everything changed! Friends moved on and it's hard to re-establish with them. Cost of living was higher too---taxes, groceries etc. Remember, I said we were from the Upper Midwest---not the East or West Coasts!! Our memories always paint a picture that's not factual.

[Bogie Shooter]

I wouldn't have moved to Florida in the first place. I only came because I knew I'd miss my husband if I didn't.

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Papa_lecki]

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

Cheers!
You mean it’s hot in Florida in July and August, is that new?

[asianthree]

Since 07 this is our first summer here….and the last. Will be heading north next May and return in September. Miss a lake that doesn’t have things that want to eat you

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Since 07 this is our first summer here….and the last. Will be heading north next May and return in September. Miss a lake that doesn’t have things that want to eat you

You might want to reconsider - you'll be leaving during lovebug season, and returning during lovebug season. Maybe wait til LATE May and return the last week in August, or stay for the fall foliage and come back in October instead.

I can't even stand driving to my parents' house 4 hours away during May or September. Those bugs ate the hood of my car when I was driving down here to move. I got hit in the Carolinas, and stayed overnight in a hotel there. By the time I got here to our new home, the acid from those bugs had already eaten through the first layer of the hood.

[patfla06]

We’ve lived in Florida 26 years and this is the hottest Summer I can remember.

Would I ever go back to Long Island - never.

[GizmoWhiskers]

That would depend on if up north was a state that even resembled what I once knew, could recognize and "weather".

Been in FL for 37 yrs from CT, VA, CA. This is the hottest its ever been and is hopefully just a fluke. I wouldn't recognize those states from a whole in the wall.

FL has been very good for my family and has been very consistant and recognizable in spite of the hot weather.

God bless Florida, The Villages, and the 4 Counties now being mass occupied in spite of the weather on earth evolving.

Stay cool, hydrate and don't forget salt.

[Lisuccia]

NO!!!

We moved here from Virginia 7 years ago and have never even thought once about moving back to Virginia.

We also moved here from Virginia 8 years ago and we have no intention of moving back.

[kendi]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

Snowflake here. The hot summer has certainly dampened my enthusiasm for becoming a frog. Also has temped us to be more of a snow bird than a snowflake. But healthcare would be my biggest reason for not making TV permanent. When we first bought here thought we’d eventually be frogs.

[Rwirish]

105 Florida temperatures beat falling snow any day. Love the few Christmas Days when it is 80.

Way too cold in TV in the winter.

Would never move back north.

[PersonOfInterest]

Florida and TV has changed in just the five + years we've been here, but probably just as much change everywhere else as well. I think TV still beats the other options. If something we thought was better came along we'd take a look at it and decide then.

[Laker14]

Snowflake here. The hot summer has certainly dampened my enthusiasm for becoming a frog. Also has temped us to be more of a snow bird than a snowflake. But healthcare would be my biggest reason for not making TV permanent. When we first bought here thought we’d eventually be frogs.

I need a reminder what the difference is between a snowflake and a snowbird.

We spend mid-May through mid-October in the Finger Lakes of NY State, and the rest of the year in TV. We realize we are very fortunate to be able to do that, but also realize we won't always be able to do that. I'll be 70 in September, and face it, the clock is ticking.

The question that looms large is what will we choose when we can no longer go back and forth, and realistically, unless things become unlivable in TV (which I don't see happening at all, despite the pessimism that abounds in TOTV), our lake home is a converted fish camp, which means stairs, docks, uneven ground, and plenty of opportunities for old people to get hurt.

Our home in TV was well designed for old people. One story, large bathrooms, and a variety of activities that are easily accessed. These activities come in a wide variety of degrees of physical requirements, so that as we age we can seamlessly transition from things like pickleball and golf, to water aerobics, billiards, cards etc.

If we die soon, it's not a problem, but if we live a long time we will unfortunately face the sadness of losing spouses and dear friends. Up north the resources for moving forward from those life changing events are much more limited, and much harder to access then they are in TV. Not a fun conversation to have, but DW and I have had it and we've both come to the conclusion that a place like TV is more suited to that stage of life than our lake home.

It it what it is, it isn't perfect, it isn't "paradise", but it's a darn good place to age out.

[skippy05]

I've lived here my entire life. These temperatures are high but nothing you don't see in cycles over time. Insurance is high. I've never lived up north, but have no desire to do so. FL has changed and not for the better, but it is still ok. Enjoy it while you can.

[Dusty_Star]

"I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?"

Nope. Negatory. NWIH, Uh-uh. Ain't gonna happen.

First (and probably foremost) I don't believe most of the negatives. Crime? Where I come from folks walk into big box stores, help themselves and walk out with impunity. Here? Just read a story about some guy who got jailed for shoplifting a battery charger, and electrical cord and a couple of buckets. Back where I come from this isn't even a "crime" any more. Here, it is a headline.

Insurance? I pay less for my home insurance here than back in Minnesota--on a property here worth about 1.5 times as much. Car insurance about the same. Non-issue.

Crowded? Back where I was raised, "next-door neighbor" means two miles down the road. Maybe desirable to some. Me? Nope. Not at this age.

Too hot? Well, it is 5:00 PM now and I just returned from playing 18 holes of golf--walking, not riding in a cart--at about 3:45. Maybe it is "too hot" for folks who let media control their lives. That ain't me. Plenty of water and taking my time--I could play all day. Maybe tomorrow I will.

We're in our third year of residency and TV has either met or exceeded our expectations in every respect. No place is perfect but Florida in general, and TV in particular, surely does beat living in the fourth-highest taxed state in the nation, six months of snow up to my armpits, and feeling the need to carry a pistol every time I left the house.

Ain't goin' back.

I found this table listing the states with the highest overall tax burden, & the good news is Minnesota dropped to #8 in 2023. That doesn't change any of your excellent points, it just points out a few other states have convinced their legistatures to make their states even more expensive than they were.

2023’s Tax Burden by State (https://wallethub.com/edu/states-with-highest-lowest-tax-burden/20494)

[Marmaduke]

LOL
Great description about Wisconsin.
I lived up there for 75 years, and everything you mention are things that
I miss the most.

One big reason that keeps my wife and I down in Florida is our one and only adopted son.
He is one of a kind and helps us with Dr. appointments, financial help, and is always available 24-7, especially now that my wife has colon cancer.

Our son wants to take us back to Wisconsin one more time, but until my wife
gets her strength back it looks pretty bleak.
You folks are so wonderful to share stories about growing up and coming to age in the Great State of Wisconsin! It sounds so nice to this east coast girl.

I wish all of you the very best. Remember- no one can steal those memories.

[RPDaly]

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[oldtimes]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

We would never move back north. Florida is the best

[sharonl7340]

LOL
Great description about Wisconsin.
I lived up there for 75 years, and everything you mention are things that
I miss the most.

One big reason that keeps my wife and I down in Florida is our one and only adopted son.
He is one of a kind and helps us with Dr. appointments, financial help, and is always available 24-7, especially now that my wife has colon cancer.

Our son wants to take us back to Wisconsin one more time, but until my wife
gets her strength back it looks pretty bleak.

Not being catty or snarky: but why describe your son as "adopted" in the second paragraph? Isn't he just your son? It sounds like it in the next sentences you write, so why did you qualify it to begin with that he is adopted? Does it matter, why should strangers know or care? Just asking...I am truly curious.

[JGibson]

No way

[sallyg]

Yup.

[cindyfeh]

I need a reminder what the difference is between a snowflake and a snowbird.

We spend mid-May through mid-October in the Finger Lakes of NY State, and the rest of the year in TV. We realize we are very fortunate to be able to do that, but also realize we won't always be able to do that. I'll be 70 in September, and face it, the clock is ticking.

The question that looms large is what will we choose when we can no longer go back and forth, and realistically, unless things become unlivable in TV (which I don't see happening at all, despite the pessimism that abounds in TOTV), our lake home is a converted fish camp, which means stairs, docks, uneven ground, and plenty of opportunities for old people to get hurt.

Our home in TV was well designed for old people. One story, large bathrooms, and a variety of activities that are easily accessed. These activities come in a wide variety of degrees of physical requirements, so that as we age we can seamlessly transition from things like pickleball and golf, to water aerobics, billiards, cards etc.

If we die soon, it's not a problem, but if we live a long time we will unfortunately face the sadness of losing spouses and dear friends. Up north the resources for moving forward from those life changing events are much more limited, and much harder to access then they are in TV. Not a fun conversation to have, but DW and I have had it and we've both come to the conclusion that a place like TV is more suited to that stage of life than our lake home.

It it what it is, it isn't perfect, it isn't "paradise", but it's a darn good place to age out.
It is “paradise” to us! So many churches, activities, pools, clubs! It’s a vibrant lifestyle here! An active lifestyle is important for quality of life as we age. In the summer, we do outside activities in the morning and late afternoon as we always have. Well, maybe not this week, but that’s okay.

[Ltwise3500]

I am thinking of North or South Carolina. Florida is getting too pricey.

[nn0wheremann]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
I looked at the weather map last month. There was no place to go.
Sometimes I regret not trying out Colorado, but then winter comes, and that doubt is put to rest.
Visiting this week in Illinois that’s afforded temperatures in the 80s with dew points in the middle 60s, which were comfortable and pleasant, except for the locals grousing about the humidity.
However, the looks on their faces when I tell them I golf nine holes three times a week, and get to the pool three times a week, we’ll makes the Florida heat and humidity bearable.

[MrFlorida]

We will never leave Florida for any other state.

[JWGifford]

We're from the Upper Midwest as well. There are some elements I miss but not enough to move back. Change has happened up there too. Heat, rain-storms---the one yesterday produced large hail. On their social media---people complain the same as here. Towns growing, folks don't drive the round-abouts correctly. People speed through town and neighborhood streets. The list goes on. When we moved here 14 yrs ago we both said, "we're not moving back!!!" Winter got tiresome---oh, winter is another thing....it's lasting longer and longer, it seems. I know folks who have moved back to where they're "from" and say---"everything changed! Friends moved on and it's hard to re-establish with them. Cost of living was higher too---taxes, groceries etc. Remember, I said we were from the Upper Midwest---not the East or West Coasts!! Our memories always paint a picture that's not factual.
Excellent observation. We tried to “move home” once and found it disappointing. It was difficult to reestablish friends and family connections. Not any fault of their own, but people move on and change. Also, the places and experiences one has are dated and may not reflect current reality. I think subconsciously people also sort of resent you for “leaving” and are reluctant to let you back in. Tough decisions.

[MandoMan]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
I’m a frog. I didn’t move to Florida. I moved to The Villages because of all the things to do here, especially the music jams. If The Villages happened to be somewhere else, that would be fine, too. I don’t really mind winter weather. That said, I like it here, but I stay inside in my 73° home nearly all the time, except when I am buying groceries or going to play at some Rec center.

[PLedoux]

Have already done it. For all of the reasons mentioned, but primarily to be closer to family as we age. We are in Michigan and love everything about it. Spring, summer and fall are beautiful compared to Florida weather. Christmas feels “normal “ with cold and sometimes snow. And we are too old to shovel, but we pay a service to do just like we did to get the lawn in Florida. We have just purchased a trailer in Recreation Plantation to spend some time in the winter with our friends. The best of both worlds without the high investment of The Villages.

[tophcfa]

Never say never. The Village’s is a wonderful place with lots of great things, but quality health care isn’t one of them. An unforeseen serious health condition might necessitate an unexpected need to relocate. I love the Village’s because of the active lifestyle. If my health wouldn’t allow me to enjoy that lifestyle, I would feel like a kid in a candy store who wasn’t allowed to eat anything. That wouldn’t be fun for me.

[Rodneysblue]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
As long as they continue to serve the cool aid we will be here. Seriously though we really enjoy it here. Pass me another cup of wine.

[BAT777]

Yes Traffic is ridiculous in the winter months. 6 years ago it was ok now it is getting to be too much… sad but The Villages has changed changedGreat Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

[jimkerr]

No way!

[GATORBILL66]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

Been in Florida now for 50 years and loving it! Especially the hot summers. Would never move north again.

[mrf0151]

I looked at the weather map last month. There was no place to go.
Sometimes I regret not trying out Colorado, but then winter comes, and that doubt is put to rest.
Visiting this week in Illinois that’s afforded temperatures in the 80s with dew points in the middle 60s, which were comfortable and pleasant, except for the locals grousing about the humidity.
However, the looks on their faces when I tell them I golf nine holes three times a week, and get to the pool three times a week, we’ll makes the Florida heat and humidity bearable.
Denver area winters are milder when comparing to most of the Northern States.
We have golfed Jan-Feb many times when living there. I understand your regret.

[wmcgowan]

im cold all the time now and hate the winter weather and snow - rather be in a warm climate

[BAT777]

We are from NH and wish we could live there in the summers and fall-not winters. However if it keeps growing here in the villages and gets as hot as it has been, really can't enjoy the outside. NH you can bundle up and
walk not feel like you may have a heart attack from the heat!!
Golfing is miserable even with the mini fans blasting..town Squares are too hot to dance..If you enjoy sitting in the house all day and night then I guess The Villages is OK. :)we are going to sell our house and go back home to nh. we will list with the villages and hope for the best. and if you know for pople looking to buy and save mones .emaile kernann@co0mcast.net we are below 44 in a big home

[golfing eagles]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Well, I just think I'll paraphrase Nick Massi from the end of "Jersey Boys":

"I don't miss Wisconsin. I'm not from Wisconsin, I'll never move to Wisconsin"

And I'd like to know where in Florida it ever hit 105F---I mean actual temperature, not heat index BS

[golfing eagles]

The media isn’t announcing extreme heat alerts everyday. The national weather service is.

Correct. The NWS that is a division of NOAA which is under the commerce department headed by a cabinet secretary. I can just imagine a cabinet meeting: "How can we cram the false narrative of climate change down the public's throats?"

State: We can blame China and India, but then we'd have to admit spending trillions on our own will do nothing, scratch that idea

Transportation: We sell the idea that SUVs are the source of all evil and spend billions subsidizing EVs, even though it won't make a difference
"sure it makes a difference, it enriches our benefactors who will make a fortune off that idea---go with it"

Defense: This is all BS, count us out.
"Oh, no, don't even think about speaking truth to power"

Commerce: We can have our puppet NWS issue "heat warnings", even though this summer is 2.63 degrees cooler than summer 2022
"great idea! Then we can have the puppet media call "weather alert days" and put heat indices rather than actual temperatures on their forecast map. The weak minded lemmings will actual believe it, after all, the bigger the lie, the more will believe it"

[golfing eagles]

I wouldn't have moved to Florida in the first place. I only came because I knew I'd miss my husband if I didn't.

Would he have missed you?:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

Too hot? Well, it is 5:00 PM now and I just returned from playing 18 holes of golf--walking, not riding in a cart--at about 3:45. Maybe it is "too hot" for folks who let media control their lives. That ain't me. Plenty of water and taking my time--I could play all day. Maybe tomorrow I will.
Ain't goin' back.[/QUOTE]

I was with you all the way until the 'media control' part. I assure you that not one single news clip has ever made me sweat profusely, and my anectodal conclusion remains that this year is a helluva lot hotter and more humid than last year, without the relief of rain there seemed to be last year. And before someone confuses this issue with meteorological facts or fiction, I used the word 'anecdotal' for a reason. For all I know it will snow next summer-but for now-I am talking about the heat, not about the news reports I may or may not have seen about the heat.
And as for walking 18 holes? I play a lot of championship golf and will occasionally walk 9-but walking 18 in this humidity is inviting problems. Great for you if you can do that and not wobble afterward. If anyone ever goes on a desert safari, you should be the first person they call-but the rest of us older adults are best suited to driving the golf car on the course, or staying home.As the Bee Gees have indicated repeatedly, it's all about 'Stayin Alive'

[Brynnie]

I agree with Bitsee. We left Ohio to come to Florida 18 years ago and have lived to TV ever since. I’ve had my fill of these brutal summers and am ready to move back north, where our daughter and grandkids live. Better restaurants up there, and more cultural activities, good bookstores, etc. I don’t like Christmas in Florida, either, and don’t mind snow, now that I don’t have to drive to work in it ☺️. Can always get someone to shovel it.


Great Post !

We are Snowbirdsagree from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

[Karmanng]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Complain complain It is NO different here in AZ either and in fact I found it to not be so darn CROWDED like you all say in May and Oct/Nov Az is not different with snowbirds either Food here to go out to eat is very overpriced and not great either........Im From ILL originally go back to Wisconsin then I bet its no different after awhile either The WHOLE world has changed...........give it a rest

[JMintzer]

I need a reminder what the difference is between a snowflake and a snowbird.

We spend mid-May through mid-October in the Finger Lakes of NY State, and the rest of the year in TV. We realize we are very fortunate to be able to do that, but also realize we won't always be able to do that. I'll be 70 in September, and face it, the clock is ticking.

You're a "Snowbird"... You "fly south for the winter..."

We're still snowflakes. We come and go as time allows.

The boss comes down for longer periods than I, and I fly back and forth...

But... If the stars align properly, in the next 12-18 months, we'll be "Frogs"...

[ThirdOfFive]

Correct. The NWS that is a division of NOAA which is under the commerce department headed by a cabinet secretary. I can just imagine a cabinet meeting: "How can we cram the false narrative of climate change down the public's throats?"

State: We can blame China and India, but then we'd have to admit spending trillions on our own will do nothing, scratch that idea

Transportation: We sell the idea that SUVs are the source of all evil and spend billions subsidizing EVs, even though it won't make a difference
"sure it makes a difference, it enriches our benefactors who will make a fortune off that idea---go with it"

Defense: This is all BS, count us out.
"Oh, no, don't even think about speaking truth to power"

Commerce: We can have our puppet NWS issue "heat warnings", even though this summer is 2.63 degrees cooler than summer 2022
"great idea! Then we can have the puppet media call "weather alert days" and put heat indices rather than actual temperatures on their forecast map. The weak minded lemmings will actual believe it, after all, the bigger the lie, the more will believe it"
"...in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily; and thus in the primitive simplicity of their minds they more readily fall victims to the big lie than the small lie, since they themselves often tell small lies in little matters but would be ashamed to resort to large-scale falsehoods. It would never come into their heads to fabricate colossal untruths, and they would not believe that others could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously. Even though the facts which prove this to be so may be brought clearly to their minds, they will still doubt and waver and will continue to think that there may be some other explanation," (Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf)

[Limey]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
It has become too expensive in The Villages for us, they only want to attract very wealthy people now so we would move North.

[LianneMigiano]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc. Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates, I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?!We're frogs because we're here til we croak. Too cold, too expensive, and way too much here to keep anyone busy - if they choose. I don't even want to visit up north again.

[allsport]

Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

Really, that is crazy, I have been here since 07 and this is by far the worst summer since I came. If I could I would leave this pathetic state, one that gets worse every year.

[golfing eagles]

Really, that is crazy, I have been here since 07 and this is by far the worst summer since I came. If I could I would leave this pathetic state, one that gets worse every year.

Based on WHAT????? Your own personal gestalt??????

If you'd like to post 17 years of actual temperature data, I'd be happy to look at it.

[LuvNH]

We are preparing to return to NH and family. We have an apartment attached to our children's home and we are ready. We have been here since 2008 and for the most part have had a wonderful time, but age and ill health has become a problem. The Village hospital almost managed to kill my husband, but not quite, they left him handicapped so if we stayed here we we would probably have to move to assisted living and that is not going to happen. $6,000 to $8,000 a month to have someone who does not even know you take care of you in your final years, no way. That money goes to my kids.

We have no regrets, love NH and we live in a beautiful area on the outskirts of a historic city. We have access to superb healthcare and only an hour from the major hospitals in Boston. Real restaurants, Market Basket, good shopping. Easy access to the coast. It is not a difficult decision. I don't think we ever intended to die in TV.

Oh, by the way, no snow shoveling, people do that for you if you pay them.

[Nana2Teddy]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!
Yes and No. Being very new here I’m still uncertain, and only time will tell.

[vintageogauge]

Not a fan of Florida summers, both the summer and winter season traffic is getting worse every year from all of the non-Villages homes going up as well as the growth in the south, and am seriously considering moving back north to be with family, less traffic and crowds, and better health care. Not worried about snow, there are plenty of snow removal services up north just as there are year round landscape services down here. I do like the seasons especially fall and still have a lot of family up there, some very young and some very old so lots of things are going to happen over the next few years that will require lots of round trips that I am getting to old to partake in..

[justjim]

I have mentioned this on other posts and threads. Residents who own property in TV and go north to property they own or rent for two or three months during the summer are called Sunbirds. We are not Snowbirds, Snowflakes or go by any other name. We are Florida residents and vote here in Florida. But to each their own.

[curtmcgee]

Also from New Hampshire but the farthest north I'm going is Ocala.

[juddfl]

I moved here in 2001 and this is the hottest summer since I've been here. That's not bad for 22 years living in The Villages.

[RCMill531@comcast.net]

We’ve been her for almost 2 years. No regrets. We love it!

[Amohernyikes]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

I would most definitely do things differently! I miss my "Up North" for a lot of reasons but also enjoy the Villages for a lot of other reasons. Without going into too much detail, I would most probably be a snowbird. I am a full-timer and think that being back home for a few months, would do my heart some good. But I am still working and not remotely, so that is not possible. I miss my family and friends back home, I came down to FL with no family and friends in tow, but have made some wonderful memories, with more to be made.

[Regorp]

People in TV move to Florida full time from the north for many reasons, family here, mild winters, cheaper taxation, entertainment, etc.

Now reading all the gloom and doom about Florida's summers will only getting hotter, insurance companies leaving the state with raising home and auto rates,

I need to ask:
If given another chance, would you move out of Florida maybe back up north?

Cheers!

I didn't leave high taxes, snow bound, icy cold Connecticut for lower taxes, hot weather, and super TV living. This is easy living compared to the hell of CT. Stay here, I will!!

[tophcfa]

We have been here since 2008 and for the most part have had a wonderful time, but age and ill health has become a problem. The Village hospital almost managed to kill my husband, but not quite, they left him handicapped so if we stayed here we we would probably have to move to assisted living and that is not going to happen.
I am very sorry to hear about your husband’s experience at the Villages hospital. Unfortunately, I can totally relate. They made a strong effort to kill me as well. Fortunately my wife came to my rescue and got me to a real hospital in Gainesville where they saved my life and I managed to come back from the horrific experience. Best of luck in beautiful New Hampshire.

[Packer Fan]

Great Post !

We are Snowbirds from Wisconsin going on 15 years now.
Wisconsin to us...is absolutely perfect.
We sit in 70+ warm sunny temperatures, beautiful lakes all around , hiking and biking trails, beautiful flowers and lush green grass, homegrown produce, fresh fish and beef , Mom and Pop diners everywhere, family owned Supper Clubs, Friday night Wisconsin fish frys at the local bars, Packerland tailgaters, and all the fresh cheese curds and real churned ice cream you could eat !
True Wisconsinite's in every way.

The Villages is also wonderful for us in the winter months, no doubt.
However, we are also going to move back to Wisconsin full-time as well eventually if we can afford a home on a big lake up here.

Florida has become more expensive to own a home there, the massive building, way too crowded, the interstates are packed continuously, the food and services there are mediocre to say the least, the crime and daily scams are over the top, and quite frankly the continuously dangerous rising heat index there is
quite alarming ~ IMO.

We are retired so Wisconsin snow shoveling is no longer a winter drama for us. I never did get used to 80* Christmas Holiday's in Florida, and falling snow outside beats 105* blasting hot sun any day in my book.

Just a personal preference for us.

Wow, as a Wisconsin native about 1 1/2 years from Retirement with a retired wife, who spent 6 weeks in May and June in TV and has spent about a month every summer in TV since we bought the house there, I have to disagree.
We will be moving to TV full time. Wisconsin weather is HORRID all year. Winter runs almost to the end of June, you have to wear a jacket to the 4th of July fireworks. Then you get some nice weather in July, where if you go outside you get eaten alive by Mosquitos. Then in August you get about 2 weeks of 100% humidity with high 90s or low 100s temps (ok, this year has been the exception for once). Then winter comes back about the second week of October. I can't stand it any more. I prefer summers in Florida - Nice until about 9:30 AM when you go inside or to the pool. Rains for 20-30 minutes between 1 and 2, when the temps drop to the 80s, which I love. Then the evenings are normally very nice.
On top of that you pay 6.75 percent of your money in Income tax, the real estate taxes are EASILY double the ones in TV, and my homeowners insurance in Wisconsin is about the same as my 10 year old house in TV even after the increases of the past 2 years.
The roads in Wisconsin are aweful, the traffic has gotten a lot worse, and god forbid you want to travel north on a friday or south on a Sunday in the summer. To drive anywhere but the UP or Minnesota, you have to make the aweful drive through Chicago too.
As far as Mom and POP diners and Supper clubs - they are almost all gone, and the lakes are too cold to swim in. I won't go into politics, but Florida wins there too.
OK, as a road biker, Wisconsin has better paths for the 4 months you can ride them - but I actually like the Multimodal trails south of 44 just as well.
I can watch the packers on TV, and get Johnsonville brats and the same cheese at Publix.
I get it is all personal preference, and I sure never got the fascination with "up north", hunting, fishing or any of that. I do downhill ski, but I normally fly to Utah or Colorado for a week to do that, Wisconsin has shrimpy hills too. My personal preference is to live in Florida, and visit my brother in Waukesha, my Sister in Menominee falls, and my Sister in law in LeClaire Iowa for a few weeks in the summer, maybe. Good ridance to cheeseland..... I am so done. :)
:pepper2::beer3::gc:

BTW- I hope you take this in the Jovial way it was meant, It really is a personal preference for sure. Maybe we can watch the (thank God) Aaron Rodgersless packers and have a beer sometime! :)

[donfey]

NO, period. It's even hard to get my wife to leave The Villages!

[Marmaduke]

Not being catty or snarky: but why describe your son as "adopted" in the second paragraph? Isn't he just your son? It sounds like it in the next sentences you write, so why did you qualify it to begin with that he is adopted? Does it matter, why should strangers know or care? Just asking...I am truly curious.
In his overall post, he talks about his state, and his current situation, right?

I interpreted the description of his loving son as being one of the best choice he and his wife ever made.

Let's face it, this #1 son sounds a lot less stingy and a whole lot more loving than many sons and daughters who are not there for their parents in later life.
I thought he was just saying how blessed he and his wife are for adopting and raising a gracious son. Kudos to then!

[BAT777]

I kind of miss the wood burning stove
and taking the grand kids sledding

[mags900]

Please go home

[scooterstang]

I had no choice but to move from Anoka MN to Panama City FL! My wife bought a house while I was at work. She said I would never have moved from MN otherwise and her arthritis feels much better in FL. I had to scramble to sell 10 Motorcycles and my 65 Mustang Fastback. Our house sold in 45 minutes for 20K over the asking price. Sold most everything on facebook market place. I think now that I have been living here for 3 years,I like it better than my wife does. I miss the hell out of my family but we have a 65 inch TV with the portal system which is almost like being there. I don't miss the snow one bit or the bitter cold. love riding my Yamaha Scooter year round and cruising my 70 Chev shortbox around town daily.

[Whitley]

Full time in Florida for us. Not practical to pay 47K a year in property tax for a home to live in 6 months. That and the 550 gallons of fuel every four weeks to heat it. It is beautiful, at Christmas it is like living in a rockwell painting, BUT I believe I will live longer down here.

[Pugchief]

we have a 65 inch TV with the portal system

Never heard of this and Google was of no help. Can you please elaborate?

[Pugchief]

LOL on all the folks complaining about traffic. Try living in any big city (SF, LA, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta) for a few weeks. The traffic here is a dream, even in the winter.

[almondz]

Are you out of your mind? Lol

[almondz]

So why are you still here?

[NavyVet]

20 years in TV full time after 8 years in South Florida. Grew up in the Northeast and will never go back up North, not even to visit and the relatives that matter are all in the greater Orlando area.
Have never acclimated to the heat, so just stay indoors all summer. I had several heat exhaustion incidents while in the service so I overheat very easily.
The reason I will never leave Florida is because it has the best Veterans' benefits of all the neighboring states. However, I have formulated my exit plan from TV. Depending on circumstances, it could be 1 year or it could be 10 or more, but I will be ready.

[Laker14]

All I can tell you folks is that I've been gone for 3 months and I am eagerly anticipating my return.

[oldtimes]

Never heard of this and Google was of no help. Can you please elaborate?

Facebook portal, like Zoom or FaceTime

[Michael G.]

Grew up in the Northeast and will never go back up North, not even to visit and the relatives that matter are all in the greater Orlando area.



So your saying you'll be there on the day the will is read. :1rotfl:

[Michael 61]

LOL on all the folks complaining about traffic. Try living in any big city (SF, LA, NYC, Chicago, Atlanta) for a few weeks. The traffic here is a dream, even in the winter.

Agree - it’s all relative - even during the height of snowbird season, traffic and parking here is no problem.

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

Last summer the criminal media wasn’t pushing the climate change agenda quite as hard!🤔🤔😎

Well then kudo's to the criminal media-They've got me convinced it's hotter this year. And I thought I wasn't one of the weak minded ones. Happy to get convinced it's all a subversive mind control plot-but for right now, those beads of sweat all over me every time I walk out the door sure do feel real.

[pokeefe45@aol.com]

"great idea! Then we can have the puppet media call "weather alert days" and put heat indices rather than actual temperatures on their forecast map. The weak minded lemmings will actual believe it, after all, the bigger the lie, the more will believe it"

I'm confused by the ""-Did a lot of us just get called 'weak minded lemmings'? Not very sporting?

[golfing eagles]

Well then kudo's to the criminal media-They've got me convinced it's hotter this year. And I thought I wasn't one of the weak minded ones. Happy to get convinced it's all a subversive mind control plot-but for right now, those beads of sweat all over me every time I walk out the door sure do feel real.

You mean you didn't sweat last year in Central Florida??????

[golfing eagles]

I'm confused by the ""-Did a lot of us just get called 'weak minded lemmings'? Not very sporting?

Just the ones who fell for the false climate change agenda.

[bcsnave]

I'm so very sorry to hear that.

Going old is so hard.
We decided that we will do whatever it takes to enjoy these so called Golden Years.

We made so many friends in Florida over the years that are sadly gone now.
Could of..Should of...Would of...is no longer in my vocabulary.

I wish you and your wife much comfort and pleasant memories only 😊

We are from the Lacrosse WI area in the bluffs on the Mississippi River and worry if we sell and go full time in TV next year that we might miss all of the things you mentioned.

Decisions...decisions

[LuvNH]

We are from the Lacrosse WI area in the bluffs on the Mississippi River and worry if we sell and go full time in TV next year that we might miss all of the things you mentioned.

Decisions...decisions

Do you have a need to sell immediately, if not keep your home for a year or two until you are sure of where you want to be. So many people sell their homes and cannot afford to buy back in.

[Laker14]

We are from the Lacrosse WI area in the bluffs on the Mississippi River and worry if we sell and go full time in TV next year that we might miss all of the things you mentioned.

Decisions...decisions

My parents spent most of their retirement years snowbirding between Cincinnati and Bonita Beach. It became my model for how I wanted to spend my retirement years.
As my first snowbirding winter approached I was unprepared for the "separation anxiety" that I felt as I prepared to leave my lake home for months. Then of course I go through it again as I prepare to leave my Villages home in the Spring. I feel a sense of envy for those who just stick around all summer and don't disrupt their lives like that. Many of my friends who do stick around all year tell me they envy us because we escape the summer heat.

This will be our 6th year of doing this and while it gets easier, I still feel some anxiety about it. However, like you suggest, I would just miss, too much, this place and this life up here were I to not come back.

Were I having this conversation with my dad, I could hear his voice telling me "Well, Sport, if that's the biggest problem you have, you are living a very charmed life."..I mean I can really hear him say that...and of course, he's right. Even thought he's been gone from this earth for a decade, he's still right about that.

[Michael G.]

Do you have a need to sell immediately, if not keep your home for a year or two until you are sure of where you want to be. So many people sell their homes and cannot afford to buy back in.

Great advice.
Once the commitment is made it's over.

Cabin fever happens in both states.
Either 6 months of cold windy weather, or 6 months heat humid days.

[Jerseygirl08]

LOL
Great description about Wisconsin.
I lived up there for 75 years, and everything you mention are things that
I miss the most.

One big reason that keeps my wife and I down in Florida is our one and only adopted son.
He is one of a kind and helps us with Dr. appointments, financial help, and is always available 24-7, especially now that my wife has colon cancer.

Our son wants to take us back to Wisconsin one more time, but until my wife
gets her strength back it looks pretty bleak.
Michael G - It's so wonderful that you have a son who is so attentive and cares for both of you so much. So sorry for your wife having to deal with cancer. You have such am amazing attitude where it concerns your wife, she is lucky to have you in her life. My wish is that you, somehow, get to bring your wife back up north to the state you both love so much. Deepest sympathies and prayers coming to both of you and your son.

[Charm1]

It is hot everywhere this summer, not just the Villages. Our summers just last a little longer. And our winters? They last about two weeks with scarcely any freezing temperatures. My plants thrive here and so do I. No way would I move back North!

[manaboutown]

Yesterday it hit 103 at my grandson's dorm at Boise State!

[vintageogauge]

Great advice.
Once the commitment is made it's over.

Cabin fever happens in both states.
Either 6 months of cold windy weather, or 6 months heat humid days.

Depends on where you're from. In northern Ohio winter started in December and by march the weather was breaking. I really enjoyed October, November, and December weather but could pretty much do without February.