Movie Theatres

[tjlee500]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

[gatorbill1]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

Leesburg is worth the drive

[JSR22]

The last time I was at Brownwood there was a sign at the Box Office stating the theater is permanently closed.

[Topspinmo]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

I sure it movie house was money maker like it use to be someone would be leasing theater. Developers I sure would be happy to lease it. But, in todays market nobody want to take risk when just as you say why go when you can rent it.

[pauld315]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

It will probably reopen as apartments

[Taltarzac725]

The Villages Developers probably do not make any money on their golf courses but they market them as there biggest selling point. EDITED.

[Taltarzac725]

The Villages Developers probably do not make any money on their golf courses but they market them as there biggest selling point. And the last I looked they still market the Villages as having three active movie theaters.

They did correct that!

[Two Bills]

One or two watchable films a year will not get business people queuing to reopen loss making movie theaters.
I wouldn't waste fuel, or even free entry for most of the film dross on offer.

[GpaVader]

I get that movie theatres don't make as much money as they used to. How much does it cost them to leave the building empty like this for how long? Why not open it, or even half of it while you are working on your plans to redevelop it. You can make a little money on something you wouldn't otherwise and to the other points, help the other businesses around it at the same time. Look at the growth you are expecting at Middleton and the surrounding area....

[Taltarzac725]

One or two watchable films a year will not get business people queuing to reopen loss making movie theaters.
I wouldn't waste fuel, or even free entry for most of the film dross on offer.

The Villages is a unique market with many people who have grown up watching movies. There is a demand here.

You cannot get the sound, smell, feel of a real movie theater in your home theater no matter how big the screen.

I went to many movies here in the Villages at all three theaters when there were very few seats open. One movie I recall had EVERY seat taken.

[Stu from NYC]

I get that movie theatres don't make as much money as they used to. How much does it cost them to leave the building empty like this for how long? Why not open it, or even half of it while you are working on your plans to redevelop it. You can make a little money on something you wouldn't otherwise and to the other points, help the other businesses around it at the same time. Look at the growth you are expecting at Middleton and the surrounding area....

If they thought it was worth reopening would have done it long ago. Sorry that horse is long gone

[Taltarzac725]

If they thought it was worth reopening would have done it long ago. Sorry that horse is long gone

It is not about the money but about the marketing that said they had three open movie theaters. They did correct that though.

[Two Bills]

The Villages is a unique market with many people who have grown up watching movies. There is a demand here.

You cannot get the sound, smell, feel of a real movie theater in your home theater no matter how big the screen.

I went to many movies here in the Villages at all three theaters when there were very few seats open. One movie I recall had EVERY seat taken.

Concession day in TV had more people in theaters, rest of week was dead.
I grew up watching movies from Hollywood.
It was the few things that gave us hope in the post WW2 aftermath, that things would get better.

[Marathon Man]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

You ask them to open the theater, after giving the very reason is closed.

[M2inOR]

Until one of the residents decides to come out of retirement and run them, or some entrepreneur figures out a profitable business model, the theaters will not reopen.

Too many simply don't have any idea how to run a profitable move theater.

Hollywood is partially to blame, too, as they require a certain $$$ gross the first few weeks of a screening.

Heck, established theaters across the US have been closing or abandoning theaters.

Viewers simple aren't willing to pay enough to keep them open.

[Rwirish]

When you moved south of 44 you didn’t know where the movie theater was located?

It’s a money loser and isn’t going to open.

[drcar]

The Villages Developers probably do not make any money on their golf courses but they market them as there biggest selling point. EDITED.

LOL, if they didn't make money on the golf courses they wouldn't be opening lots more!!!

[HoosierPa]

The Villages is a unique market with many people who have grown up watching movies. There is a demand here.

You cannot get the sound, smell, feel of a real movie theater in your home theater no matter how big the screen.

I went to many movies here in the Villages at all three theaters when there were very few seats open. One movie I recall had EVERY seat taken.

Ahh…the good ole days

[Kelevision]

When you moved south of 44 you didn’t know where the movie theater was located?

It’s a money loser and isn’t going to open.

When I moved south of 44 there was a theater in Brownwood. My psychic ability wasn’t working so I didn’t know they would close it permanently once I bought my house. Now, i don’t care because I like the Leesburg recliners way more and go there but you could be less rude. I agree it’s not a money maker. You could’ve just said that.

[Taltarzac725]

When I moved south of 44 there was a theater in Brownwood. My psychic ability wasn’t working so I didn’t know they would close it permanently once I bought my house. Now, i don’t care because I like the Leesburg recliners way more and go there but you could be less rude. I agree it’s not a money maker. You could’ve just said that.

Golf courses rarely make money unless they charge a lot for membership. Google it.

The upkeep of golf courses is quite expensive.

They keep making this argument that the movie theaters were shut down because they were not money makers. Neither are the golf courses. They are an attraction to keep people moving here as were the THREE movie theaters.

Do Golf Courses Make Money? • Honest Golfers (https://honestgolfers.com/do-golf-courses-make-money/)

A recent study shows that 75% of golf courses in America make profits, while the rest drown in debt and bankruptcy. Golf courses make money based on membership fees, pro shop sales, green fees, and food and beverage sales.

[3105boy]

Once theater owners figure out they can make a ton of money showing live football and baseball games in their theaters, then they will open. The beer alone will pay the staff.

[Hobbiest]

Discount Tuesdays at AMC. We saw Oppenheimer in assigned, reclining seats for $6 a ticket. 👍

[spinner1001]

Operating movie theaters is a loss maker now on average. Covid changed the economics of operating movie theaters. For example:

AMC Entertainment Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AMC) has had negative earnings since 2019 before Covid.

Similar effects for Cinemark Holdings, Inc. (NYSE:CNK).

If someone wants to argue that reopening the Brownwood movie theater would make an operating profit, fine, argue away. But at least give us some empirical evidence. Top line revenues and profits are not the same.

[spinner1001]

Comparing the economics of golf courses to those of movie theaters is just silly. Golf courses and movie theaters don’t share many of important characteristics.

[Taltarzac725]

Comparing the economics of golf courses to those of movie theaters is just silly. Golf courses and movie theaters don’t share many of important characteristics.

I am not the one making the comparison.

[Taltarzac725]

LOL, if they didn't make money on the golf courses they wouldn't be opening lots more!!!

Golf courses are a draw to the Villages as were the three movie theaters.

[Bogie Shooter]

I am not the one making the comparison.
:popcorn::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[TEXJK]

Turn it into indoor pickle ball courts……and broadcast the pop…pop…pop over the speakers on the square 👍 for everyone’s enjoyment

[Taltarzac725]

Turn it into indoor pickle ball courts……and broadcast the pop…pop…pop over the speakers on the square ������ for everyone’s enjoyment

They will probably turn it into high end apartments.

[Causey]

Not likely to ever want to voluntarily spend money that might benefit Hollywood. Put some new restaurants in Brownwood.

[Marathon Man]

Golf courses are a draw to the Villages as were the three movie theaters.

Golf courses would certainly attract golfers to TV. The number of movie theaters, c'mon.

[Taltarzac725]

Not likely to ever want to voluntarily spend money that might benefit Hollywood. Put some new restaurants in Brownwood.

This dislike of Hollywood seems to be an important part of why the Village developers dumped their commitment to providing entertainment here in the Villages offered by movie theaters. Not the economics of movie theaters and golf courses. Both of which need huge food sales and "ticket" or "green" fees to remain profitable. But there is a HUGE upkeep charge for the golf courses.

This is a theme that has been going on here for as long as we have been discussing the closing of the Barnstorm Theater. And many throw in the golf courses as making money for the Developers.

[Taltarzac725]

Golf courses would certainly attract golfers to TV. The number of movie theaters, c'mon.

They would for a good part of the people living in the Villages especially those not into golf. Three movie theaters, that is.

[Blackbird45]

I saw Oppenheimer in Ocala, I had reserved my ticket online which let me even pick out my seat.
This was a great option since I had no idea how crowded it was going to be even though I was going to a 2pm showing.
I like the movie, but it was not what I expected, and it was completely my fault.
The title of the movie should have been my clue.
The movie was concentrated on Oppenheimer personal life more than the making of the bomb.
Though I like it film and it was not what I expected, what I also didn't expect was how empty the theater was, if I had to guess there might have been twenty people at best.
I worked in the business and in the early 70s there was a dry spell in films and many theaters closed down, but as the business started to return theaters came back bigger than ever.
I do not believe that is going to be the cast this time, today there is too much competition, films will continue to be made but they will find other ways than a theatre to display them.

[JMintzer]

I am not the one making the comparison.

Ummm... Yes you are...

"Golf courses rarely make money unless they charge a lot for membership. Google it.

The upkeep of golf courses is quite expensive.

They keep making this argument that the movie theaters were shut down because they were not money makers. Neither are the golf courses. They are an attraction to keep people moving here as were the THREE movie theaters."

[CosmicTrucker]

Before moving here and pre C. I loved to go to our local CineBistro dinner theater. Loved it!
If we could get CMX to move in at that location I’m 99% sure it would be a hit.

[JMintzer]

Golf courses are a draw to the Villages as were the three movie theaters.

That's another comparison...

[Cybersprings]

Golf courses are a draw to the Villages as were the three movie theaters.

Raise your hand if you moved to the villages because it had 3 movie theaters.

[rickaslin]

They lose less money with it empty, why open any part of it and lose more money !!

[Regorp]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

Being a huge movie fan, the trip to Leesburg AMC is very worth it. Advanced seating online, comfort, fresh popcorn and Books A Million, as well. Seen over a dozen movies the past year. Who needs Brownwood?

[JMintzer]

Golf courses would certainly attract golfers to TV. The number of movie theaters, c'mon.

Not to mention, the golf courses are almost always full. The movie theaters? Only busy on the discount nights...

[JMintzer]

This dislike of Hollywood seems to be an important part of why the Village developers dumped their commitment to providing entertainment here in the Villages offered by movie theaters. Not the economics of movie theaters and golf courses. Both of which need huge food sales and "ticket" or "green" fees to remain profitable. But there is a HUGE upkeep charge for the golf courses.

This is a theme that has been going on here for as long as we have been discussing the closing of the Barnstorm Theater. And many throw in the golf courses as making money for the Developers.

If the championship courses didn't make money, they wouldn't spend $Millions building more of them...

The executive courses are also a major draw, based on the usage numbers. Your amenity fees pay for them. Just as they always have.

So, it's folly to compare the two...

[JMintzer]

They would for a good part of the people living in the Villages especially those not into golf. Three movie theaters, that is.

Then why weren't they always full?

[jimkerr]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

When it was open people weren’t going. They were losing money. This is why they closed it permanently.

[Taltarzac725]

When it was open people weren’t going. They were losing money. This is why they closed it permanently.

They were not going because of COVID and fears related to it.

Impact of the COVID-19 pandemic on cinema - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_on_cinema#:~:text=The%20COVID%2D19%20p andemic%20had,future%20dates%20or%20delayed%20inde finitely).

[jimkerr]

They were not going because of COVID and fears related to it.

I'm talking before Covid. It was never hard to get a ticket to the movies here. They were never busy.

Nothing is stopping anyone from leasing the space and opening their own theater.

[mkfritts@bellsouth.net]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

We are weekly movie goers and preferred the Brownwood location - would LOVE to have “our” theatre open again! For the past 6 weeks we have also attended music events (specifically Gilly & The Girl) at Lazy Mac’s at the OMP. The place is jam packed every time they play and food / drink business is brisk. What a great business concept! We believe that incorporating the OMP strategy at Brownwood would “save our theatre”! Come on Village Powers that be.. Think about it!!!

[kasegs]

What happens the rest of the time when there isn't a movie you want to see? They should keep it open for you, just in case?

[Stu from NYC]

We are weekly movie goers and preferred the Brownwood location - would LOVE to have “our” theatre open again! For the past 6 weeks we have also attended music events (specifically Gilly & The Girl) at Lazy Mac’s at the OMP. The place is jam packed every time they play and food / drink business is brisk. What a great business concept! We believe that incorporating the OMP strategy at Brownwood would “save our theatre”! Come on Village Powers that be.. Think about it!!!

Do you really think the developer has not given a lot of thought about what to do with the theater? They keep selling their 300 or so homes a month with only one open theater.

The time of the movie theater has mostly passed.

[writerslife]

Are you serious? Complaining about a 30- minute drive? You live in a city with a footprint the size of Manhattan. This is life in the big city. Drive or await its release on Netflix.

[LuvNH]

The time of the movie theater has mostly passed.

Unfortunately, I have to agree, but there is nothing quite like the ambiance of a movie theater for enjoying a movie. Used to love seeing the people coming and going, the popcorn, the candy, coffee etc.

[Taltarzac725]

Unfortunately, I have to agree, but there is nothing quite like the ambiance of a movie theater for enjoying a movie. Used to love seeing the people coming and going, the popcorn, the candy, coffee etc.

Some movie theaters seem to be doing well. Best Movie Theater Stocks in 2023 | The Motley Fool (https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/entertainment-stocks/movie-theater-stocks/)

[Bill14564]

Some movie theaters seem to be doing well. Best Movie Theater Stocks in 2023 | The Motley Fool (https://www.fool.com/investing/stock-market/market-sectors/communication/entertainment-stocks/movie-theater-stocks/)

Probably just bad timing for posting this particular article. It appears there are live stock updates embedded in the article. The two companies they recommend are negative right now while the one they say to avoid is positive. Of course, things may change in 10 minutes but at the moment their advice doesn't match the market.

[Rodneysblue]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

Unfortunately it’s not a viable business to be in at this time.

[Sandy and Ed]

When I moved south of 44 there was a theater in Brownwood. My psychic ability wasn’t working so I didn’t know they would close it permanently once I bought my house. Now, i don’t care because I like the Leesburg recliners way more and go there but you could be less rude. I agree it’s not a money maker. You could’ve just said that.
Snarky responses from rude folks are pretty normal. Seems to be a sign of advanced age, entitlement and, of course, the onset of dementia. Just take it in the spirit of good will it was tended. But in support of your entry, I too would like to see another theater atmosphere here. Perhaps specializing in epics like Lawrence of Arabia, etc?? Or other award winning pictures

[Bea&Mike]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

I agree started a Petition back in last week of July in two weeks got 3,500 sign to reopen theater; trying call and sending email to person I charge Ryan McCabe and also the Daily Sun news paper got no reply!

[Taltarzac725]

I agree started a Petition back in last week of July in two weeks got 3,500 sign to reopen theater; trying call and sending email to person I charge Ryan McCabe and also the Daily Sun news paper got no reply!

Really liked your Petition.

Have no idea why the Villages Developers are not applying their business sense to the unique market of the Villages which is made up of tens of thousands of people who grew up going to the movie theaters and drive-ins.

It is about this specific market and not what is going on with movie theaters in NYC, Detroit, Chicago, or DC.

And this was a draw for people moving into the Villages who enjoy movies with the feel, smell and noise of the big screen.

[Freeda]

Leesburg is worth the drive

Totally!!!!!!!

[Taltarzac725]

Totally!!!!!!!

I may move in that direction some day in the future. Hopefully it is a long way off though.

[golfing eagles]

LOL, if they didn't make money on the golf courses they wouldn't be opening lots more!!!

Once again, and for the 99th time I'm telling you, STOP CONFUSING PEOPLE WITH THE FACTS!!!

[Taltarzac725]

Once again, and for the 99th time I'm telling you, STOP CONFUSING PEOPLE WITH THE FACTS!!!

They do not make money on golf courses. They are a huge draw though for people coming here.

How much $ does it take to keep the grounds looking good on the golf courses? Probably quite a bit and they do not have that many foods offered at the golf courses.

How To Manage Your Golf Course Maintenance Costs (https://www.plateiq.com/blog/how-to-manage-your-golf-course-maintenance-costs/)

[drcar]

I agree started a Petition back in last week of July in two weeks got 3,500 sign to reopen theater; trying call and sending email to person I charge Ryan McCabe and also the Daily Sun news paper got no reply!

Because they a business, here to make money. NOT to lose money on a business like movie theaters. If the movie theaters were a money maker soneone would take them over, :boom:

[drcar]

they do not make money on golf courses. They are a huge draw though for people coming here.

How much $ does it take to keep the grounds looking good on the golf courses? Probably quite a bit and they do not have that many foods offered at the golf courses.

how to manage your golf course maintenance costs (https://www.plateiq.com/blog/how-to-manage-your-golf-course-maintenance-costs/)

lol, they make a profit!!!!!!!

[Taltarzac725]

lol, they make a profit!!!!!!!

I kind of doubt it.

[golfing eagles]

I kind of doubt it.

I can't tell you why, but you are arguing with the wrong person in drcar. It's kind of like when people try to get in a medical argument with me.

[BiPartisan]

The Villages Developers probably do not make any money on their golf courses but they market them as there biggest selling point. EDITED.

If you saw an ad for the Villages that said the reason to buy is because we have 24 movie screens versus we have 54 golf courses designed for all level of golfer.... really? 24 screens but 4 block buster movies a year wow I doubt it.

[BiPartisan]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

You just summed up why movie theaters throughout the Country are failing. You can stream rent or watch on any cable movie channel any of hundreds of movies without driving 10, 20 or 30 minutes and paying the price of the ticket. Apparently a lot of people are "lazy". So you want a movie theater with 8 screens to save you 12 minute drive (Brownwood to Sumter) because 1 movie has "finally" come out YOU want to see. Rent the theater and movie and have a watch party for all your friends.

[Taltarzac725]

If you saw an ad for the Villages that said the reason to buy is because we have 24 movie screens versus we have 54 golf courses designed for all level of golfer.... really? 24 screens but 4 block buster movies a year wow I doubt it.

The Villagers pay for the golf courses through fees. The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/golf/golf-rates-fees)




Monthly Amenity Fee

$189.00


This one is pretty straightforward. At $189 a month currently, this covers much of what makes The Villages such a draw. Things like golf on the executive courses, swimming, tennis, organized activities, 24-hour neighborhood watch and more.Mar 28, 2023

[spinner1001]

Why do people really move to The Villages?

[spinner1001]

Why do people really move to The Villages?

It must be the movie theaters.

[Taltarzac725]

Why do people really move to The Villages?

They move to the Villages for golf, to avoid the cold weather up north, to distance themselves from people they worked with prior to moving, to be near siblings or to be far from siblings, to be near or to be far from their kids, and many other reasons.

Golfing is the main attraction though.

[dhdallas]

The average movie ticket cost $11.75 in 2022, according to EntTelligence, a research firm. AMC charges $14-$18 per adult ticket & they are 5 billion dollars in debt. Investopedia reports that a whopping 60% of ticket sales go back to the studios.

The movie theater patrons of today are more sophisticated than those of previous generations. They expect digital quality picture & sound. They want plush comfortable seats which can cost the theater owner $1100 and up per seat. No more flickering images, noisy projectors, or those worn burgundy velour seats with the wooden arms you had to share.

Here is a breakdown of what modern movie theater equipment costs according to the top CEO’s of the most popular movie chains as reported by Indie Wire.
Media block: $7,000-$40,000
This helps convert the digital cinema package provided by a studio into data that can be projected with picture and sound.
Digital library server: $12,000-$27,000
These provide storage to hold multiple movies.
Xenon bulbs: $450-$1,300
Many out of date projectors require bulbs that need replacing after only 400-500 hours & use vast amounts of electricity compared to newer Laser Projectors.
Laser projectors: $40,000-$150,000+
State of the art with amazing clarity & huge savings in power consumption.
Screens: $3,000-$50,000
The upfront cost of installing an entirely new screen rather than just replacing one can reach up to $40,000-$50,000 for the largest PLF screens.
3-D Projection: $13,000
Many popular movies need to be shown in 3-D.
Dolby Sound: $75,000-$100,000
There’s also the cost of the Dolby Atmos sound systems.

And then you have to add in the costs of the building, maintenance, taxes, utilities, concession equipment, any loan payments, equipment upkeep (& depreciation), etc. Labor costs are going up and you need a small army of people to manage the equipment, concessions, cleaning crew, and so on.

So, if any of you Villagers have several million dollars just lying around & want to reopen a movie theater, here is your big chance. Just remember, the Morse family are the experts in making money & if there was money to made from the movie theaters, they would be doing it.

[JMintzer]

They move to the Villages for golf, to avoid the cold weather up north, to distance themselves from people they worked with prior to moving, to be near siblings or to be far from siblings, to be near or to be far from their kids, and many other reasons.

Golfing is the main attraction though.

I thought it was the "loofah parties"...

[Taltarzac725]

The average movie ticket cost $11.75 in 2022, according to EntTelligence, a research firm. AMC charges $14-$18 per adult ticket & they are 5 billion dollars in debt. Investopedia reports that a whopping 60% of ticket sales go back to the studios.

The movie theater patrons of today are more sophisticated than those of previous generations. They expect digital quality picture & sound. They want plush comfortable seats which can cost the theater owner $1100 and up per seat. No more flickering images, noisy projectors, or those worn burgundy velour seats with the wooden arms you had to share.

Here is a breakdown of what modern movie theater equipment costs according to the top CEO’s of the most popular movie chains as reported by Indie Wire.
Media block: $7,000-$40,000
This helps convert the digital cinema package provided by a studio into data that can be projected with picture and sound.
Digital library server: $12,000-$27,000
These provide storage to hold multiple movies.
Xenon bulbs: $450-$1,300
Many out of date projectors require bulbs that need replacing after only 400-500 hours & use vast amounts of electricity compared to newer Laser Projectors.
Laser projectors: $40,000-$150,000+
State of the art with amazing clarity & huge savings in power consumption.
Screens: $3,000-$50,000
The upfront cost of installing an entirely new screen rather than just replacing one can reach up to $40,000-$50,000 for the largest PLF screens.
3-D Projection: $13,000
Many popular movies need to be shown in 3-D.
Dolby Sound: $75,000-$100,000
There’s also the cost of the Dolby Atmos sound systems.

And then you have to add in the costs of the building, maintenance, taxes, utilities, concession equipment, any loan payments, equipment upkeep (& depreciation), etc. Labor costs are going up and you need a small army of people to manage the equipment, concessions, cleaning crew, and so on.

So, if any of you Villagers have several million dollars just lying around & want to reopen a movie theater, here is your big chance. Just remember, the Morse family are the experts in making money & if there was money to made from the movie theaters, they would be doing it.

They are experts at developing the ideas of the brilliant Harold Schwartz. He was the visionary who showed up at the right place and time and who had family who could enhance rather than destroy his dream. Even though it has been a nightmare to others.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

There is a petion for what its worth. At least 3k plus people care (not that the Developers give a hoot).

While T V may have fixed their on paper marketing it's a little late for those who were sold on a theater being at Brownwood (amungst other things of course).

What does the trolley tour continue to say about the theater?

Petition * Reopen Barnstorm Theater to Provide Adequate Public Theater in Brownwood, The Village FL! * Change.org (https://www.change.org/p/reopen-barnstorm-theater-to-provide-adequate-public-theater-in-brownwood-the-village-fl)

[GizmoWhiskers]

Golf courses are a draw to the Villages as were the three movie theaters.
Accessibility via golf carts to life's ammenities both fun wise, medically and retail wise for over 55's is/was the draw to The Villages... hence "The Bubble". Who needs a car? So three theaters was a draw for oldsters wanting to entertain the grand or great grand kids. T V lifestyle, adult Disneyland.

Promise the kids the Disney experience and remove Mickey Mouse and the princesses and all the rides and see how the crowd responds (not that I care about Disney you can have it) but point is The Villages has misrepresented the theater element since about 2020.

[Fenster]

I second your vote for Brownwood.

In the meantime, take a drive to see the movie. Definitely worth seeing on the big screen.

[Kelevision]

I thought it was the "loofah parties"...

That’s why I moved here but have yet to find my people! ;) I wonder how that ever got started? Lol

[Kelevision]

Can theaters sustain the so-called 'Barbie boost' at the box office? : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2023/08/15/1193899227/can-movie-theaters-sustain-the-barbie-boost)

[M2inOR]

Raise your hand if you moved to the villages because it had 3 movie theaters.

< Thumbs Down>
<Hands Not Raised>

[M2inOR]

There is a petion for what its worth. At least 3k plus people care (not that the Developers give a hoot).

While T V may have fixed their on paper marketing it's a little late for those who were sold on a theater being at Brownwood (amungst other things of course).

What does the trolley tour continue to say about the theater?

Petition * Reopen Barnstorm Theater to Provide Adequate Public Theater in Brownwood, The Village FL! * Change.org (https://www.change.org/p/reopen-barnstorm-theater-to-provide-adequate-public-theater-in-brownwood-the-village-fl)

Let's be generous. 3,500 petition signers spending $10 one a week to watch a movie at a theater.

That's $35,000 gross revenue a week.

That's not enough revenue to pay the costs of running a theater and pay the studios enough for a first run movie.

[Stu from NYC]

Let's be generous. 3,500 petition signers spending $10 one a week to watch a movie at a theater.

That's $35,000 gross revenue a week.

That's not enough revenue to pay the costs of running a theater and pay the studios enough for a first run movie.

Actually it probably is enough but lets be honest almost none of the signees will come once a week.

[Number 10 GI]

If the movie studios produced good quality movies maybe the theaters would be popular. Who wants to pay exorbitant money for tickets and popcorn to watch some of the garbage now being passed off as entertainment.

[Taltarzac725]

If the movie studios produced good quality movies maybe the theaters would be popular. Who wants to pay exorbitant money for tickets and popcorn to watch some of the garbage now being passed off as entertainment.

Killers of the Flower Moon (film - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killers_of_the_Flower_Moon_(film))

This might be a very worthwhile movie. The book of the same name was extremely well written and researched.

[JMintzer]

Accessibility via golf carts to life's ammenities both fun wise, medically and retail wise for over 55's is/was the draw to The Villages... hence "The Bubble". Who needs a car? So three theaters was a draw for oldsters wanting to entertain the grand or great grand kids. T V lifestyle, adult Disneyland.

Promise the kids the Disney experience and remove Mickey Mouse and the princesses and all the rides and see how the crowd responds (not that I care about Disney you can have it) but point is The Villages has misrepresented the theater element since about 2020.

Even Disney closed more than a few attractions that proved to be unprofitable...

[Taltarzac725]

The Equalizer 3 - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_equalizer_3)

Lots of exciting movies coming out this year as far as I can tell. Hard to know because of the strikes by Hollywood workers.

[Stu from NYC]

The Equalizer 3 - Rotten Tomatoes (https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_equalizer_3)

Lots of exciting movies coming out this year as far as I can tell. Hard to know because of the strikes by Hollywood workers.

Movies take quite awhile after being written to be produced and distributed to theaters. Thinking we will not see any effect till next year

[Taltarzac725]

Movies take quite awhile after being written to be produced and distributed to theaters. Thinking we will not see any effect till next year

True. But hopefully they will be up- and- running soon.

[Stu from NYC]

True. But hopefully they will be up- and- running soon.

They do not seem to be talking so think this will be going on and on and on.

Luckily for us there is enough for us to watch via streaming services.

[Duke-SRT]

The theaters should be turned over to the recreation department. If this was done the theaters would not have to make a large profit, just brake even, and we would get our theaters back. The Villages are still using “three theaters” as a selling point, when in actuality there is only one operating and that one does not operate every day. There is also some kind of comedy club in that theaters lobby.

[Marathon Man]

The theaters should be turned over to the recreation department. If this was done the theaters would not have to make a large profit, just brake even, and we would get our theaters back. The Villages are still using “three theaters” as a selling point, when in actuality there is only one operating and that one does not operate every day. There is also some kind of comedy club in that theaters lobby.

No no no, and no. We do not want the cost of running movie theaters.

[golfing eagles]

No no no, and no. We do not want the cost of running movie theaters.

But, but, but that poster’s premise was that once these money losing theaters were turned over to the recreation department they would magically make a profit. I’m not sure I follow that logic 😂😂😂

[spinner1001]

But, but, but that poster’s premise was that once these money losing theaters were turned over to the recreation department they would magically make a profit. I’m not sure I follow that logic 😂😂😂

Assume a can opener.

Assume a can opener - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assume_a_can_opener)

[Stu from NYC]

But, but, but that poster’s premise was that once these money losing theaters were turned over to the recreation department they would magically make a profit. I’m not sure I follow that logic 😂😂😂

He said break even but do not see how that can be achieved.

[Taltarzac725]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....

I am revisiting his or her first post.

The point is to open the Brownwood movie theater and movie patrons do often spend money before or after the film at businesses surrounding the movie theater.

I do not see anything about breaking even or a profit. Again. This is an attraction for the businesses and for the Villages and not another Burger King. Even though some of my family members had some Burger King on Monday.

[drcar]

I am revisiting his or her first post.

The point is to open the Brownwood movie theater and movie patrons do often spend money before or after the film at businesses surrounding the movie theater.

I do not see anything about breaking even or a profit. Again. This is an attraction for the businesses and for the Villages and not another Burger King. Even though some of my family members had some Burger King on Monday.

I have to say you LOVE beating a dead horse. IF the movie houses made money for the developer they WOULD be OPEN. There is still one open AND it is not full all the time. The Championship courses DO MAKE A PROFIT!! The EXECS do NOT make a profit they are owned and run by the district governments.

[Taltarzac725]

I have to say you LOVE beating a dead horse. IF the movie houses made money for the developer they WOULD be OPEN. There is still one open AND it is not full all the time. The Championship courses DO MAKE A PROFIT!! The EXECS do NOT make a profit they are owned and run by the district governments.

It is not about profit! It is about having that attraction for home owners. And they highlighted having THREE movie theaters in their literature ever since the Barnstorm opened.

They only had the Rialto here when we moved here in June of 2005. The Old Mill Playhouse opened around November of 2005. Barnstorm probably a few years after the Old Mill Playhouse opened.

And some of the big movie openings were sold out. At every theater they had one of these.

[JSR22]

It is not about profit! It is about having that attraction for home owners. And they highlighted having THREE movie theaters in their literature ever since the Barnstorm opened.

They only had the Rialto here when we moved here in June of 2005. The Old Mill Playhouse opened around November of 2005. Barnstorm probably a few years after the Old Mill Playhouse opened.

And some of the big movie openings were sold out. At every theater they had one of these.

The current advertising specifies one theater. My guess is not 3% of Villagers moved here for a move theater. Brownwood s closed and not reopening.

[Taltarzac725]

The current advertising specifies one theater. My guess is not 3% of Villagers moved here for a move theater. Brownwood s closed and not reopening.

It might. We will see.

[JSR22]

It might. We will see.

There is a sign at the theater that it is permanently closed. Mark Morse stated that there are no plans to reopen the theater.

[Bogie Shooter]

It is not about profit! It is about having that attraction for home owners. And they highlighted having THREE movie theaters in their literature ever since the Barnstorm opened.

They only had the Rialto here when we moved here in June of 2005. The Old Mill Playhouse opened around November of 2005. Barnstorm probably a few years after the Old Mill Playhouse opened.

And some of the big movie openings were sold out. At every theater they had one of these.
Good old days……………….times are a changing.

[Marathon Man]

The current advertising specifies one theater. My guess is not 3% of Villagers moved here for a move theater. Brownwood s closed and not reopening.

That guess is way higher than mine.

[JSR22]

That guess is way higher than mine.

Honestly probably less than1%

[golfing eagles]

Honestly probably less than1%

And then move the decimal place 2 to the left :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

At some point can we stop beating this very dead horsey.

[JMintzer]

He said break even but do not see how that can be achieved.

Actually, they said "Brake" even, but why quibble... :evil6:

[JMintzer]

At some point can we stop beating this very dead horsey.

Sure... But when I suggest it (dogs at restaurants), all hell breaks loose... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[golfing eagles]

At some point can we stop beating this very dead horsey.

NNNNaaaaayyyyyy :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[drcar]

It is not about profit! It is about having that attraction for home owners. And they highlighted having THREE movie theaters in their literature ever since the Barnstorm opened.

They only had the Rialto here when we moved here in June of 2005. The Old Mill Playhouse opened around November of 2005. Barnstorm probably a few years after the Old Mill Playhouse opened.

And some of the big movie openings were sold out. At every theater they had one of these.

They are a BUSINESS, it IS about profit. And you stated the golf courses lose money, NOT. Get your facts straight!

[Stu from NYC]

Actually, they said "Brake" even, but why quibble... :evil6:

Irregardless of that movie theaters aint coming back.

[Stu from NYC]

Sure... But when I suggest it (dogs at restaurants), all hell breaks loose... :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Gotta have a thick skin around these parts

[eostrand]

I wish that they would turn the Barnstorm into a cinema and drafthouse.
They could show the old classics for cheap and make a killing off of food and drink.

Who wouldn't want to watch Casablanca and Gone with the Wind on the big screen again ?

[Taltarzac725]

I wish that they would turn the Barnstorm into a cinema and drafthouse.
They could show the old classics for cheap and make a killing off of food and drink.

Who wouldn't want to watch Casablanca and Gone with the Wind on the big screen again ?

They had some of the movies at the Rialto. I remember winning some kind of contest for a free ticket to the movie [I]Gone with the Wind. Or maybe it was a raffle.

They did show various older movies at movie festivals at the Old Mill Playhouse and the Rialto but when I was there at the theater there were usually very few people.

They did do better with the Polo Field Golf Cart movie showings.

[retiredguy123]

Finally, a movie, Oppenheimer that I would like to see. 30 minute drive to Sumter Landing or longer to Leesburg AMC. Not interested in an hour or more round trip. YES, I am lazy (as many may point out so I saved you the effort) and retired and drove plenty back and forth from work.

I will wait until I can rent it online although I love the big screen and acoustics.

However, I am 10 min from Brownwood.

Developer: PLEASE REOPEN THIS THEATRE. WE HAVE THOUSANDS MORE PEOPLE SOUTH OF 44 AND WE NEED THIS THEATRE.

I just don't get it. It is already there and had been in use until Covid. It will bring people to Brownwood square to spend $ at the restaurants etc. You have tons of golf courses but here is something we really need and you only have a movie theatre in Sumter landing.....
You will be able to purchase a digital copy of Oppenheimer for $19.99 on November 21.

[Two Bills]

I wish that they would turn the Barnstorm into a cinema and drafthouse.
They could show the old classics for cheap and make a killing off of food and drink.

Who wouldn't want to watch Casablanca and Gone with the Wind on the big screen again ?

I would hazard, not that many.

[Taltarzac725]

You will be able to purchase a digital copy of Oppenheimer for $19.99 on November 21.

I have my order in. Have not seen it nor Barbie yet. But doubt if I will watch them back-to-back.

[coffeebean]

I wish that they would turn the Barnstorm into a cinema and drafthouse.
They could show the old classics for cheap and make a killing off of food and drink.

Who wouldn't want to watch Casablanca and Gone with the Wind on the big screen again ?

That is a great idea. There are so many classic movies that would be wonderful to see on a big screen with that beautiful sound system. Actually, I would like to see the theater in LSL showing the old classics and the Brownwood theater for first run movies. Brownwood is a newer theater and the seating is nicer.

[Stu from NYC]

That is a great idea. There are so many classic movies that would be wonderful to see on a big screen with that beautiful sound system. Actually, I would like to see the theater in LSL showing the old classics and the Brownwood theater for first run movies. Brownwood is a newer theater and the seating is nicer.

If there was a market for old classics to be shown on a big screen they would already be showing it. Sorry.

Personally would love to see the original King Kong on a big screen.