All I expect is a small amount of kindness.

[Chee-Chee]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

[justjim]

Some people are inconsiderate of others (it’s all about them) and that is just a fact of life. That said, most don’t feel entitled and are not rude.

[retiredguy123]

If I were the instructor, saving spots would never happen.

[BobnBev]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

Sounds like you've been meeting the true "ENTITLED" villager. They seem to be everywhere.

[Two Bills]

My wife had that at line dancing classes as well.
"I usually stand there!" was a favorite.
In early days my lady moved, but after a while she stood her ground. (without a weapon of course.)

[Velvet]

The reply is, “I guess this is going to be MY usual spot.” Seriously? And give them the “How-dare-you” look if they don’t get the hint. But then if it was one of my dear neighbors I’d just smile and move over…

[LuvNH]

"I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends."

I have lived in TV for almost 20 years and this has been happening since I arrived. It is embarrassing and hurtful and, unfortunately, often the people doing it are "in" with the instructor making it even more difficult to end this rotten practice. A lot of people used to leave their car keys on their "spot" and I had an overwhelming desire to kick their car keys all over the room, especially under the chairs. :loco: But, I never had the nerve to do it.

[ThirdOfFive]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.
Well, some folks are more important than others, I guess…

It isn’t just here. We do a lot of cruising: it is nothing for people to put a towel on a good chair by the pool and then disappear for inordinate amounts of time. See it at the buffets too: window tables are always preferred and it isn’t uncommon to see a cup of coffee and a spoon at a table while the person staking out that particular claim is off doing whatever.

And church? We’ve attended a couple here in TV: I guarantee that you’ll see probably a dozen or more Bibles resting on seats before the service starts while the folks claiming those seats are in the commons area gossiping and sucking down the free coffee.

[golfing eagles]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

No different that those that were saving seats at the town squares. But I never had a problem with that---if someone said that seat is saved, I would reply with a polite "Thanks for saving it for me". (I'm not talking about someone who has been sitting there and the other person went to get a drink, I'm talking about those that tried to rope off 16 seats and when anyone tried to take one would crawl out of the woodwork claiming they were saved)

[Michael G.]

If I were the instructor, saving spots would never happen.

Yep, problem solved. :shrug:

[coffeebean]

............And church? We’ve attended a couple here in TV: I guarantee that you’ll see probably a dozen or more Bibles resting on seats before the service starts while the folks claiming those seats are in the commons area gossiping and sucking down the free coffee.

Free coffee??? Really???? Maybe I should start going to church. LOL.

[golfing eagles]

Free coffee??? Really???? Maybe I should start going to church. LOL.

Don't you have the beans already??? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Also, I don't recall a seat saving thread in well over a year---has that practice stopped, or has it now been accepted as the norm?

[vintageogauge]

This is exactly why I don't exercise.

[coffeebean]

Don't you have the beans already??? :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Also, I don't recall a seat saving thread in well over a year---has that practice stopped, or has it now been accepted as the norm?

Too funny, GE. I've got the beans but free is free. LOL.

[golfing eagles]

Too funny, GE. I've got the beans but free is free. LOL.

And a whole lot effort than grinding and brewing them. Friends again????:beer3:

[Stu from NYC]

And a whole lot effort than grinding and brewing them. Friends again????:beer3:

Wonder what it will costs to make it up to her?

[Debfrommaine]

Took classes at various gyms in my life and it was the same years ago as it is now. I think it's so strange people call Villagers entitled. People's behavior did not start the day they landed in The Villages LOL.

[VApeople]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends.

How do they save a spot for a friend? Do they beat you up if you take that empty spot?

Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot.

How do they 'have people move'? Do they call the police and have the people forcefully moved?

If they are not using force to make people move, then I would just ignore them and take any spot that is open.

[NotGolfer]

I would just say "oh.well!" and not move!! This happens all over as others have said---not just "here" but where we all came from too. People bring their behaviours with them. As for saving seats---see it in church ALL the time, with Bibles and or bulletins. I see folks counting down their rows too to make sure there's enough room for their pals. In our church you can't bring coffee etc. in the auditorium but have to stay in the commons. I sort of "get it"---as folks want to socialize a bit but being rude doesn't factor into the equation in my view. Either plant you behind OR take your chances later just like regular people do.

[margaretmattson]

Sounds like you've been meeting the true "ENTITLED" villager. They seem to be everywhere.Through the years, I have found that this is more of a never-miss class attendee vs someone who just wants to pop in. If I have never been to a class, I do not expect a regular to give up his/her spot to me.

If I am new to a class, I arrive early and ask, Is this class full?A regular usually responds nicely and will point to a spot that is available. If there is not an opening, they sweetly inform me of a class on a different day that is not as full. Either way, I am thankful. Kindness and entitlement works both ways.

[Velvet]

Through the years, I have found that this is more of a never-miss class attendee vs someone who just wants to pop in. If I have never been to a class, I do not expect a regular to give up his/her spot to me.

If I am new to a class, I arrive early and ask, Is this class full?A regular usually responds nicely and will point to a spot that is available. If there is not an opening, they sweetly inform me of a class on a different day that is not as full. Either way, I am thankful. Kindness and entitlement works both ways.

Do “regulars” have assigned spots like children in grade 1 with their names on it? Or are their numbered tickets assigned to a spot? If not, it’s first come, first served.

[coffeebean]

And a whole lot effort than grinding and brewing them. Friends again????:beer3:

For sure!

[margaretmattson]

Do “regulars” have assigned spots like children in grade 1 with their names on it? Or are their numbered tickets assigned to a spot? If not, it’s first come, first served. First come first served is your viewpoint. Throughout the years, I have learned classes continue to exist because of the people who attend them on a regular basis. Without them, the class would be cancelled and I have seen this happen.

Why upset the apple cart? Take a spot that you are directed to or attend a class with more openings. For me, it is an easy adjustment.

[Velvet]

First come first served is your viewpoint. Throughout the years, I have learned classes continue to exist because of the people who attend them on a regular basis. Without them, the class would be cancelled and I have seen this happen.

Why upset the apple cart? Take a spot that you are directed to or attend a class with more openings. For me, it is an easy adjustment.

If the instructor directs me to a spot, of course, I will try to do that. If some entitled “regular” attempts to guide me… they’re out of luck. THEY are the ones upsetting the Apple cart, and yes, this is my opinion.

[Velvet]

I would just say "oh.well!" and not move!! This happens all over as others have said---not just "here" but where we all came from too. People bring their behaviours with them. As for saving seats---see it in church ALL the time, with Bibles and or bulletins. I see folks counting down their rows too to make sure there's enough room for their pals. In our church you can't bring coffee etc. in the auditorium but have to stay in the commons. I sort of "get it"---as folks want to socialize a bit but being rude doesn't factor into the equation in my view. Either plant you behind OR take your chances later just like regular people do.

I like your “Oh, well” I have to learn to velvet my reaction.

[JMintzer]

This is exactly why I don't exercise.

I like the cut of your jib... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

[JMintzer]

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[margaretmattson]

If the instructor directs me to a spot, of course, I will try to do that. If some entitled “regular” attempts to guide me… they’re out of luck. THEY are the ones upsetting the Apple cart, and yes, this is my opinion. I understand your frustration, been there many times myself when I want to attend a popular class or club.
But, I understand these classes and clubs are not public like a gym or the squares. They exist because of individuals who took the time, energy, and constant attendance needed to start them. I would not classify any of these people "entitled." They are just continuing and participating in something they created. What gives you (or anyone) the right to push them out?

Personally, I find most of them quite accommodating. They tell you their guidelines, offer you a spot if one is available, or go out of their way to tell you of another class with more openings. What more can they offer? Their spots to newcomers who did nothing to create and continue the class? I still am a believer that Kindness and entitlement works both ways.

[PersonOfInterest]

We come to the Villages to enjoy the abundance of things to do and what seems like an overwhelming number of recreation facilities. Over 30 golf courses, over 100 pickleball courts, etc. When you try to use some of these facilities and find them to be so crowded it takes away some of the value we originally saw in so many recreational opportunities.

[margaretmattson]

We come to the Villages to enjoy the abundance of things to do and what seems like an overwhelming number of recreation facilities. Over 30 golf courses, over 100 pickleball courts, etc. When you try to use some of these facilities and find them to be so crowded it takes away some of the value we originally saw in so many recreational opportunities. In this post, we are talking about the overcrowded classes. If you want more classes or clubs, you have to start them. Any one can start a class or club, just takes some intuitive.

As for the golf courses, pickleball courts etc. You should have done the math! No way over 30 golf courses is going to mean 140,000 people plus their occasional guests can golf whenever they want. Same with the 100 or so pickleball courts, you have to learn to share. Or, do as they do in some retirement communities. Guests are not permitted to use any of the amenities.

[Sandy and Ed]

If I were the instructor, saving spots would never happen.
Agree. The instructor needs to step in and forbid, yes forbid, saving floor space for cronies. Meet outside and come in together.

[PersonOfInterest]

In this post, we are talking about the overcrowded classes. If you want more classes or clubs, you have to start them. Any one can start a class or club, just takes some intuitive.

As for the golf courses, pickleball courts etc. You should have done the math! No way over 30 golf courses is going to mean 140,000 people plus their occasional guests can golf whenever they want. Same with the 100 or so pickleball courts, you have to learn to share. Or, do as they do in some retirement communities. Guests are not permitted to use any of the amenities.

The classes that are being talked about are 'Instructor' led classes so someone can't just 'start' another class. There is also a shortage of Villages 'rooms' where these classes could be held. Many of these classes are NOT at Villages recreation centers, but at the commercial Fitness centers (Genesis) .

I have lived in multiple cities with comparable populations that had less than 8 golf courses in the area and had much less trouble getting a tee time. Previously I've lived in retirement communities with about 5,000 people and 2 pickleball courts that were not as crowded as here. I find that regardless of the large number of facilities, they are not able to accommodate the number of people wanting to use these facilities during 'prime time'.

[Sandy and Ed]

In reading these responses I see we have more than a few folks that feel they are so “entitled” to reserve first come first served spots by planting an “Anchor” sorority sister or fraternal brother in an open seating situation. I see this at the squares where some will lay articles of clothing over seats so as to imply that someone is sitting there, etc. These are the folks who are always the first to throw out the “entitled class” label referring to others in conversation. “ He or she doesn’t travel in OUR circle”..so they forget about being courteous. So hypocritical.

[jimbomaybe]

I understand your frustration, been there many times myself when I want to attend a popular class or club.
But, I understand these classes and clubs are not public like a gym or the squares. They exist because of individuals who took the time, energy, and constant attendance needed to start them. I would not classify any of these people "entitled." They are just continuing and participating in something they created. What gives you (or anyone) the right to push them out?

Personally, I find most of them quite accommodating. They tell you their guidelines, offer you a spot if one is available, or go out of their way to tell you of another class with more openings. What more can they offer? Their spots to newcomers who did nothing to create and continue the class? I still am a believer that Kindness and entitlement works both ways.
Since "your spot" is a concern, you being one of those making the class possible arrange the class so you have to preregister for the class and when you do get a perasigned place, of course to make that function if you were to not attend you of course would go to the bottom of the list next time around, much simpler , you show up first you get first pick

[SusanStCatherine]

What is your objection to someone who arrived before you saving a spot? That seems to be the norm. Get there earlier than them. What's really annoying is someone coming in just before class starts and getting way too close to me when I got there 15-60 minutes prior. Most classes don't have reserved spots for regulars. I attended line dancing and the first class I was stuck in the back corner. Next class I came an hour ahead of time. A man came up to me and said it was his spot. My friends and I kindly told him it doesn't work that way. He looked very disappointed. Is either party acting entitled?

[rsmurano]

If someone left keys/towels on chairs for over 10 mins, I would take them and put them in the corner. I’m ok with saving seats if you are getting a drink or changing into clothes for the workout, 10 mins should cover that. After that, those chairs/seats are open, I don’t care if you are on a cruise, at the gym, or at a square.

[deborahcme]

Posting as a fitness instructor from "up nawth." Your FI is not the police. We can't step in and settle everyone's hash, much as we might like to! Most people who have their "spot" do so out of habit. Most people who save spots for others just want to hang out with their best buds. It's not intentional "entitlement," just peeps seeking their comfort zone. And perhaps having a wee dose of FMO! When I see a full class, I'll just say "Hey we are full up today. Isn't that great? I know you all will make room and welcome any newcomers. They are probably nervous. So, give them a hand! Thank you so much for helping them find a spot to work out!" This, done with eye contact and positive smiles works beautifully. And if you are a newcomer to a class, go ahead and introduce yourself to a few peeps. "Confess" to being a newbie and not sure what to do. Any defensive walls will melt away. Yeah, yeah, there will still be a few who....ya know. But for the most part, I've found people want to be welcoming, especially here in TV.

[maistocars]

Well said, Anen!!

[pauld315]

Wait until all the short term AirBnB renters get here during the season. You will have ot get there 2 - 3 hours in advance to get in.

[Mac81]

The instructor needs to step in here. I understand once in a while for one person but that's too much and not fair.

[waterflower]

All marketing is a mind game. Everything looks beautiful, but; empty heart and soul.

[tophcfa]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved.

Dam, I guess yoga isn’t exactly the zen, peace, and tranquility activity that it’s advertised to be?

[Kim McGraw]

Simply turn the keys into “lost and found”. Lol.

[kendi]

Sounds like you've been meeting the true "ENTITLED" villager. They seem to be everywhere.

That’s society in general. Not exclusive to TV

[wmcgowan]

get their earlier that the other person

[BBBnWitty]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

I agree that folks shouldn't save spots for others (except maybe one spot for a spouse or significant other). But if someone arrives early enough to grab a spot before a class begins, especially a regular, then I don't see the problem. If you want to be in a class then show up early and mark your spot. Also, I look forward to when this fad of throwing the word "entitled" around as if it is a word with bad connotations. Look it up in a hard or soft covered dictionary that's more than 20 years old. I hope you all have a wonderful day and enjoy all the things you are entitled to.

[Velvet]

“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

[JMintzer]

“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

Yeah, except that is only one small part of the definition...

I tend to lump in those that throw around that term in with those who label everything they don't like about TV as "Greed"...

[Chee-Chee]

When people save an entire row, unacceptable. My wife goes to class religiously. In fact 4-5 time a week. She is quiet and shy then internalizes it. She told me and it said try to find another class. Or I offered to go to the class as soon as the center opens and stand on a spot for her. ������ she will find another class.

[Number 10 GI]

The only reason this happens is because the entitled ones are allowed to get away with it. Don't give in to bullies.

[Flyers999]

get their earlier that the other person

Exactly. That's how it works. One must get in line and wait until the door opens. Then you can go in and claim your spot; then you can use the bathroom, etc. Now you shouldn't be able to "save an entire row." Perhaps this is what the OP is referring to.

[margaretmattson]

When people save an entire row, unacceptable. My wife goes to class religiously. In fact 4-5 time a week. She is quiet and shy then internalizes it. She told me and it said try to find another class. Or I offered to go to the class as soon as the center opens and stand on a spot for her. ������ she will find another class. Yikes! An entire row?I have never seen that happen. I just see people going to their usual spots and then I settle in where they tell me. Never had much of a problem.

Question. Is this in the newer areas? I don't get down there often, and, if so, I will not waste my time. Sounds like many classes are filled to capacity. One less person for y'all to worry about! So sorry this is happening.

[LuvNH]

If you are a yoga enthusiast and have lived here for over 10 years you will remember Karon and Jack. In their class most people used the same space every week, but we would come in with our mats and sit on our mats until the class started. If someone came in earlier and took the place you usually had you would find another space, no big deal. Line dancing was totally different. Loads of stuff on the floor to save their spot and nobody around until the instructor came in. Unfortunately, as much as I loved line dancing, the sheer numbers of people cramming into the class was ridiculous so I gave that up. The Saturday morning class with Cheryl was very popular and I believe the room allowed 150 people so the back row was dancing in the foliage at the back of the room.

[Suzieque]

Posting as a fitness instructor from "up nawth." Your FI is not the police. We can't step in and settle everyone's hash, much as we might like to! Most people who have their "spot" do so out of habit. Most people who save spots for others just want to hang out with their best buds. It's not intentional "entitlement," just peeps seeking their comfort zone. And perhaps having a wee dose of FMO! When I see a full class, I'll just say "Hey we are full up today. Isn't that great? I know you all will make room and welcome any newcomers. They are probably nervous. So, give them a hand! Thank you so much for helping them find a spot to work out!" This, done with eye contact and positive smiles works beautifully. And if you are a newcomer to a class, go ahead and introduce yourself to a few peeps. "Confess" to being a newbie and not sure what to do. Any defensive walls will melt away. Yeah, yeah, there will still be a few who....ya know. But for the most part, I've found people want to be welcoming, especially here in TV.

Well said and I agree. Most people have a "spot" but it is just habit and they want to be by their friends. If someone comes earlier than I do and takes my "spot ", I just go somewhere else.

[mikeycereal]

Do “regulars” have assigned spots like children in grade 1 with their names on it? Or are their numbered tickets assigned to a spot? If not, it’s first come, first served.

And are there cubby holes for their school stuff? :1rotfl:

[Mardys]

Get real! I, for one, get to class very early and put my bag near the door until it’s opened and then I can get in the room. Until the worker opens the door and allows us in the room I just wait in the lobby, talk to friends, and read. For those who think the can run in the last 15 minutes or less before class just need to get in earlier.

[asianthree]

I am confused, any class I go to, you can’t enter class until the doors are opened. Cards are scanned, at door. If only one entered and saves spots, the class fills, those with saved spots can’t enter, because class is full.

I enter at door opening place my mat where I choose. I do leave the room, WHY, because I like calm, quiet, zen, prior to class.

Hate to say it but, that isn’t the mood in any room, in TV, because those that enter engage in Non Stop useless conversations.

One can tell true yogi (my instructor for 29 years is from India) those who enter her rooms take silence, and respect of the class, as the best way to enter into well being.

So I Don’t save space, but I don’t return to my mat until class starts

[B.Kauffman]

Free coffee??? Really???? Maybe I should start going to church. LOL.

Coffeebean:). Sounds like you & I could be pals when we get to TV.

[coffeebean]

Coffeebean:). Sounds like you & I could be pals when we get to TV.

:wave:

[Whitley]

I understand that it is rude, however there may be more to it then entitlement. As we age, the familiar become increasingly important to us (I missed the classes as to why). A building demolished along the walking path a senior takes daily for exercise can throw them into a panic. Changing the menu of a diner of coffee shop they go to daily can result in a crisis . reserving a space for someone not there, or asking someone to leave a space is rude, however I try to be understanding. My Mom is in an ALF. Her and two other ladies have "their" table to eat at. They do not ask people to leave (though they may), but one will arrive45 minutes to an hour early to get that table. There are always other empty tables all through meals, but they must have that one. I tried to bring it up with them, which resulted in their getting agitated. I don't want to agitate 82 to 99 year olds. You and your wide are fortunate to have each other. If possible do not let this occupy too much of your time.

[Two Bills]

You and your wide are fortunate to have each other. If possible do not let this occupy too much of your time.

Are you insinuating my wide is overweight?:icon_wink:

[BBBnWitty]

“Entitled” simply means “I’m a selfish person, my needs are the only ones that count. Live with it!” And then when they are called on it, they try to defend their attitude.

You're entitled to your opinion.

[Whitley]

You're entitled to your opinion.

See what you did there? You are good. That, was good.

[Donegalkid]

I have noticed recently in some of the aerobic and yoga classes that people come in early and save spots for friends. Some people have gone as far as coming early putting down name tags and then leaving later they come back and expect their spot to be saved. These classes are very popular and many people would like to participate. Some participants have gone as far to have people move because it’s not their spot. Such high school behavior shouldn’t be allowed if this place is in fact, the friendliest place the friendliest city, and everyone is kind and understanding, why not treat other people who are interested in good health with more respect. Do you want a specific spot get there early there’s room for everyone there are classes available throughout each week , be kind others why not make a new friend rather than treat someone like they don’t belong.

Isn’t the solution in this case the same as in other similar situations (general admission seating with no assigned or reserved seating) that if you want a certain spot at an event you need to get there first, and BEFORE all others and take the spot where you wish to be seated? Bring a book to read as you wait for class to begin. Reserving spots by throwing down blankets, leaving markers, lawn chairs, etc., has been happening for as long as public events have been occurring. Fair or not. It probably was a common occurrence as far back as the Coliseum in Ancient Rome … I can imagine folks leaving their togas on seats prior to the gladiator events and battles with wild animals.

[Velvet]

You're entitled to your opinion.

Thank you. And you are too… but you know that is just one way of using the word, don’t you?

[Tikki]

I agree with the writer. It was one of the things I looked forward to attending.. after the 2nd time-I found other things to do outside the villages. I laugh when I see them requesting new people. Who would allow themselves to be treated like…..

[Glowfromminnesota]

Gosh. No matter where you live and what state, the same issue always occurs. A few people always feel entitled. I struggle with that in Minnesota at the YMCA (just last night actually). I noticed in The Villages one room had signs indicating that isn’t allowed, but they still do it. There is a code of ethics that no one follows. The instructors don’t get paid so it probably shouldn’t be them to say anything. Most instructors in The Villages instruct out of kindness. It truly makes it difficult for new people to join in because often they have to go to the back of the room and can’t see the instructor. How about the students that try to outdo the instructor? Now that is a new conversation :-).

[mjr0773]

Be careful with the seat saving issue at the squares. The hourly announcement says something to the effect of “if you do plan to save seats, at least one member of the party must stay by the seats”. This announcement does open the possibility of one person saving say, 15 seats.

[Salty Dog]

We do a lot of cruising: it is nothing for people to put a towel on a good chair by the pool and then disappear for inordinate amounts of time.

This is one of the largest complaints by cruisers. I can see why. Not so much for me. Being from sunny Florida where you are never out of sight of a pool, laying around a pool on my cruise isn't high on my list...