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Michael G.
08-23-2023, 08:53 AM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Stu from NYC
08-23-2023, 09:13 AM
We avoid self checkouts.

When they give us a discount for doing this might be interested otherwise why help put cashiers out of work?

Keefelane66
08-23-2023, 09:24 AM
Duh stores are already complaining their loosing money thru self checkout thefts.

snbrafford
08-23-2023, 09:33 AM
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

Bill14564
08-23-2023, 09:34 AM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Are those your own thoughts or did you find it on the internet? If the latter, you ought to give some credit to the source.

pauld315
08-23-2023, 09:40 AM
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

Unfortunately, it seems as though young people have no desire to fill these types of jobs. Add into that the fact that mimimum wages were forced to be raised here in Florida, companies have countered with alternative ways to continue without employing as many workers as before.

Bill14564
08-23-2023, 09:40 AM
There was a time when no one pumped their own gas. You drove up to the pump and the attendant came out to your car. You told them what you wanted, they pumped it, then you gave them money and were off. Things change. Today, there is only one state that requires attendants and in most states you cannot find a Full-Service line.

Prices did not go down when gas stations no longer had attendants but I will bet prices are higher for those stations that still do.

Self checkout appears to be the future. I can imagine the day when there is a service charge to go through a manned checkout line.

LuvNH
08-23-2023, 10:45 AM
Self checkout and all the other "selfs" are great if you can see what you are doing. I have advanced macular. I can use my home computer with no problem, but not the self checkout computer with all the pretty little pictures of fruits and vegetables. So what happens to people like me ........ I have been asked to self checkout in Publix and have told the person that I cannot see to do it and the reply "Oh, I'll do it for you", so if you are going to do it for me why can't I go through the regular checkout and have someone help me?

MrFlorida
08-23-2023, 11:20 AM
Duh stores are already complaining their loosing money thru self checkout thefts.

That's because we're not TRAINED on self checkouts should be your response.

asianthree
08-23-2023, 11:28 AM
Sorry use self checkout whenever possible, why because no waiting, I can pack my groceries correctly. Saves time than standing in the cashier line.

But I get it can’t tell you how many try self checkout, don’t have a clue how to do it, and waste everyones time. So I am so glad most posters use a cashier.

Of course if you shop Sam’s BJs or Costco they check your basket no matter what.

ThirdOfFive
08-23-2023, 11:47 AM
[QUOTE=snbrafford;2248648]I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. "

Aye. There's the rub.

LuvNH
08-23-2023, 11:48 AM
Sorry use self checkout whenever possible, why because no waiting, I can pack my groceries correctly. Saves time than standing in the cashier line.

But I get it can’t tell you how many try self checkout, don’t have a clue how to do it, and waste everyones time. So I am so glad most posters use a cashier.

Of course if you shop Sam’s BJs or Costco they check your basket no matter what.



But they do it correctly and professionally. They hold the receipt and check off items against the receipt. We have no problem with that.

asianthree
08-23-2023, 12:11 PM
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But they do it correctly and professionally. They hold the receipt and check off items against the receipt. We have no problem with that.

Actually unless it’s BJs where they check every item in your cart, everyone else looks for expensive couple of items and sends you on your way.

Didn’t know there was a professional way to check a receipt. It that an associate Or bachelor degree in professional receipt checking.:clap2:

Michael G.
08-23-2023, 12:26 PM
[QUOTE=snbrafford;2248648]I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. "

Aye. There's the rub.

The sad part with young people today is their math skills.
Could they add and subtract without a register that does it for them?

Pugchief
08-23-2023, 12:49 PM
I agree with every single comment in this thread so far and I hate self-checkout. However...

...the stores do this to save money. If they have to hire more cashiers, they will raise their prices enough to compensate for the additional overhead. That's Business 101.

If govt mandates an untenable minimum wage, business figures out a way to eliminate jobs: self-checkout, ordering kiosks at McD, Amazon vs brick & mortar. You can't have it both ways.

Gpsma
08-23-2023, 01:31 PM
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

Remember driving with my uncle when i was a little kid. Had to pay a toll on the parkway near him…10cent tolls. Of course they had the lanes with baskets to throw yoir dime in. He said to me…i always go to the toll collecter…u do t want them to lose their jobs!

Fast forward now….no toll collectors anywhere..all electronic tolling.

Times and technology change. We cant save low level jobs.

Stu from NYC
08-23-2023, 01:34 PM
[QUOTE=ThirdOfFive;2248688]

The sad part with young people today is their math skills.
Could they add and subtract without a register that does it for them?

Your right but this is mainly the fault of our educational system where these skills are not taught

manaboutown
08-23-2023, 01:59 PM
Your right but this is mainly the fault of our educational system where these skills are not taught

You're correct!

Here's why...Teachers Unions: Are the Schools Run for Them? - Foundation for Economic Education (https://fee.org/articles/teachers-unions-are-the-schools-run-for-them/#:~:text=Teachers%20unions%20have%20worked%20to,pa rental%20interference”%20in%20public%20education ).

djlnc
08-23-2023, 01:59 PM
I was shopping at a Walmart in NC a couple years ago where they had someone with a scanner checking receipts at the exit. It was a very quick process that could not possibly check the contents in the cart so I asked her what the purpose was. She explained that sometimes people would exit with a cart of goods and a receipt, but the receipt was not dated at the current time/day. So the scan was just checking the time on the receipt.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-23-2023, 02:59 PM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

My opinion is the same as it was a few months ago when someone posted the exact same copy-paste on Facebook:

Signed - speak for yourself.

1. The Walmart you're complaining about isn't exclusively self check-out.
2. The self check-out banks have at least one employee, in some cases more than one, to assist shoppers with those very self check-outs.
3. The self check-out banks also have a front end manager to handle anything that the associates can't handle.
4. You're not "entitled" to shop there at all. They can ask you to leave, or prevent you from entering, any time they want for any reason EXCEPT any that violate discrimination law - "protected classes." Saying "I'm a customer and pay your salary" does not make you a member of a protected class.
5. Walmart, Target, BJ's, Sam's, and Costco all have folks at the exits to check receipts. They always have. They're instructed to check randomly AND to check baskets of things that aren't in bags, or baskets that have things on the bottom shelf, where a cashier (or customer) might have missed (or intentionally tried to steal).
6. Enjoy your boycott, and get out of my line. I prefer the self check-out and you're in my way.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-23-2023, 03:01 PM
Are those your own thoughts or did you find it on the internet? If the latter, you ought to give some credit to the source.

It's a copy-paste from an internet meme. It's a few years old and has recently resurfaced.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-23-2023, 03:03 PM
Self checkout and all the other "selfs" are great if you can see what you are doing. I have advanced macular. I can use my home computer with no problem, but not the self checkout computer with all the pretty little pictures of fruits and vegetables. So what happens to people like me ........ I have been asked to self checkout in Publix and have told the person that I cannot see to do it and the reply "Oh, I'll do it for you", so if you are going to do it for me why can't I go through the regular checkout and have someone help me?

Publix has actual cashiers. If you know you have trouble seeing and will need assistance, then next time go into the line with the actual cashier. If you don't, then you are one of the reasons they don't hire more cashiers.

Pondboy
08-23-2023, 03:10 PM
Another view point ;

Labor is expensive and most folks don’t want to work menial jobs. They want paid holidays, sick time, 401k programs and health care. Those are all value added benefits that get added to the cost of the goods that we buy. Are you willing to pay more for those goods to support the working class people? How many of you have called contractors and gone with the cheapest who offered you a quote? How much does he pay his help? What benefits do they get?

Here in the Villages is a labor shortage. Who’s gonna check you out and bag your groceries? Let me hear you complain when you have to wait 15 minutes to make it thru check out. Are you willing to pay more for your groceries to support 15 cashiers and a slew of folks to bag your groceries? Publix is open from 7 AM to 9 PM seven days a week. Do you want to work nights and weekends!

Are self check outs really stealing people’s jobs ??

As far as checking your receipts. Costco does it as a way to protect you. They check receipts at the door to make sure a cashier did not ring up an item twice.

There was also an article that I read the other day about store thefts. It’s up over 26% to a tune of $94 Billion dollars. We all pay for that in one way or another. Sorry that you did not have time to let that person do their job to help cut down on thefts from the store.

Bill14564
08-23-2023, 03:15 PM
Publix has actual cashiers. If you know you have trouble seeing and will need assistance, then next time go into the line with the actual cashier. If you don't, then you are one of the reasons they don't hire more cashiers.

My understanding was that he/she started in a cashier line but was asked to move to a self-checkout line.

mickey100
08-23-2023, 03:46 PM
I doubt that these people "boycotting" the self checkout lanes are saving any jobs. Technology changes constantly. As someone else said, these low level jobs are being phased out due to changes in technology. I have a relative that works at Walmart up north and with no high school degree, gets almost $20/hour. Obviously it's cheaper for Walmart and ultimately cheaper for us to have self checkout rather than pay cashiers well above minimum wage. Retail is transforming. We are shopping a lot differently than we did even 5 or 10 years ago. And another way to look at it, is these self checkout stations are creating new jobs - people have to manufacture and service and program these checkout stations. One thing I like about self checkout is that I don't have to wait in line very long. And that is a plus for both the customer and the store. For those that don't like it, or have medical issues, you can still check out with a physical person.

Carla B
08-23-2023, 03:48 PM
I'm one who has trouble with self-checkout lines. I have Reynaud's Syndrome, which numbs the fingertips when exposed to cool environments. Any temp below 76 deg. F. seems to trigger it, so I have to get an employee's help anyway.

photo1902
08-23-2023, 04:10 PM
My opinion is the same as it was a few months ago when someone posted the exact same copy-paste on Facebook:

Signed - speak for yourself.

1. The Walmart you're complaining about isn't exclusively self check-out.
2. The self check-out banks have at least one employee, in some cases more than one, to assist shoppers with those very self check-outs.
3. The self check-out banks also have a front end manager to handle anything that the associates can't handle.
4. You're not "entitled" to shop there at all. They can ask you to leave, or prevent you from entering, any time they want for any reason EXCEPT any that violate discrimination law - "protected classes." Saying "I'm a customer and pay your salary" does not make you a member of a protected class.
5. Walmart, Target, BJ's, Sam's, and Costco all have folks at the exits to check receipts. They always have. They're instructed to check randomly AND to check baskets of things that aren't in bags, or baskets that have things on the bottom shelf, where a cashier (or customer) might have missed (or intentionally tried to steal).
6. Enjoy your boycott, and get out of my line. I prefer the self check-out and you're in my way.

Best post of the day. Hands down.

Mleeja
08-23-2023, 05:58 PM
Waiting longer in line for a real checkout person is kind of a self fulfilling prophecy. If there wasn’t so many self checkouts stations, there would be more “live” checkout stations. If going to Walmart, if I am getting one or two items I will use self checkout. If I have a cart full of items or something expensive I will go to a live checkout line. At Sam’s we will use the scan and go app. This is really a time saver. A Sam’s employee is going to check your cart regardless of your checkout method. You might as well skip the line all together.

Rainger99
08-23-2023, 07:17 PM
We avoid self checkouts.

When they give us a discount for doing this might be interested otherwise why help put cashiers out of work?

And the reason that they put in self checkout is that they usually can’t find workers to work the counter.

Do you use an ATM??

Do you use a kiosk to place orders?

Al2014
08-23-2023, 07:39 PM
I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. I used to work in grocery retail and the market had to install cameras above each register to prevent theft - or at least in some cases put dummy ones up - and this did help. I suspect the reason the stores will give is that it reduces costs which I suspect it does so we are all to blame for wanting lower costs. This is the same as the order kiosks at the fast food places.

I agree with your comments. Companies use a problem in hiring staff as the need for self checkouts. I was in a large Leesburg store today with multiple self checkout options and a few cash registers in the middle of which 1 was open. The customer in front of me had a few items, but as I learned she wanted it rang in 2 transactions. The second transaction needed a price check. During my wait there were 5 employees walking around talking to each other. One of those finally opened another register.

BrianL99
08-23-2023, 07:51 PM
I agree with your comments. Companies use a problem in hiring staff as the need for self checkouts. I was in a large Leesburg store today with multiple self checkout options and a few cash registers in the middle of which 1 was open. The customer in front of me had a few items, but as I learned she wanted it rang in 2 transactions. The second transaction needed a price check. During my wait there were 5 employees walking around talking to each other. One of those finally opened another register.

If you insist on customer service from most any company in the USA, you're going to be talking to someone, 1/2 way around the world.

If you call for most any sort of service, you're mostly likely going to be directed to someone's Webpage.

We are becoming a world that is doing its best to eliminate human interaction, in any sort of business.

Complaining on the Internet isn't going to change that direction, nor is boycotting Wal-Mart going to change it. Not embracing new and accepted technology (or progress) is only going to hurt those who refuse to accept it.

Stu from NYC
08-23-2023, 07:52 PM
Another view point ;

Labor is expensive and most folks don’t want to work menial jobs. They want paid holidays, sick time, 401k programs and health care. Those are all value added benefits that get added to the cost of the goods that we buy. Are you willing to pay more for those goods to support the working class people? How many of you have called contractors and gone with the cheapest who offered you a quote? How much does he pay his help? What benefits do they get?

Here in the Villages is a labor shortage. Who’s gonna check you out and bag your groceries? Let me hear you complain when you have to wait 15 minutes to make it thru check out. Are you willing to pay more for your groceries to support 15 cashiers and a slew of folks to bag your groceries? Publix is open from 7 AM to 9 PM seven days a week. Do you want to work nights and weekends!

Are self check outs really stealing people’s jobs ??

As far as checking your receipts. Costco does it as a way to protect you. They check receipts at the door to make sure a cashier did not ring up an item twice.

There was also an article that I read the other day about store thefts. It’s up over 26% to a tune of $94 Billion dollars. We all pay for that in one way or another. Sorry that you did not have time to let that person do their job to help cut down on thefts from the store.

Costco and others do it mainly to prevent theft.

JoMar
08-23-2023, 08:06 PM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Part of the problem.

Velvet
08-23-2023, 09:37 PM
I never use self-check out. If that is all that is offered I walk out. Stores that will only offer self-checkout will get me to shop on line. Save me the gas, the parking, the time etc etc. No customer service is going to end up with no customers to serve.

dhdallas
08-23-2023, 10:00 PM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Well, well, well, someone certainly thinks they are something special. You do realize that the person checking receipts is just doing a thankless job & doesn't need your haughty attitude in refusing to cooperate. No friendly hometown feeling here!

MrChip72
08-24-2023, 12:53 AM
Self checkout is great if it's an extra option like at Publix or Winn Dixie. I never want to see cashiers go away though. Personally, I often just want to buy 2-3 items and I don't wish to be stuck behind a slow customer or cashier that is going to take away 5 extra minutes that I could spend doing something else more important pickleball, nap, etc.

My theory is that the older you get, the more value that you should value your time because you have much less of it left.

dhdallas
08-24-2023, 06:05 AM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Instead of suffering the horrible indignities of self checkout & being rude to the receipt checker just trying to do her job, why don't you get your groceries delivered? Both Walmart & Publix offer home delivery & curbside pickup. I have used both methods and they are great. With curbside, you just pull in and in moments out comes an employee with your groceries. It's great. BTW, freeing up cashiers by utilizing self checkouts allows more employees to shop for customer's delivery & curbside groceries (and no loss of jobs).

JGibson
08-24-2023, 08:01 AM
I like that I can see how much I’m being charged for each item as opposed to the cashier who goes so fast I can't tell if I’m being overcharged.

I saved money doing my own checkout.

Mamalea
08-25-2023, 04:26 AM
[QUOTE=snbrafford;2248648]I try to avoid self checkouts as I feel like I'm taking jobs away from someone. These should be great jobs for high schoolers and young people THAT WANT TO WORK!. "

Aye. There's the rub.

That want to work or need to. People don’t need to work if given everything, ie by their parents.

Sandy and Ed
08-25-2023, 04:41 AM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!
AMEN!!! I know why Sam’s Club and Walmart started this trend: thieves!! Even so, I am not one of them. I like how you handled this. Maybe if those stores made examples of the thieves and prosecuted them whenever they are caught and our judges threw the book at them thieves would be discouraged. Seems like the honest people bear the burden

Sandy and Ed
08-25-2023, 04:48 AM
Instead of suffering the horrible indignities of self checkout & being rude to the receipt checker just trying to do her job, why don't you get your groceries delivered? Both Walmart & Publix offer home delivery & curbside pickup. I have used both methods and they are great. With curbside, you just pull in and in moments out comes an employee with your groceries. It's great. BTW, freeing up cashiers by utilizing self checkouts allows more employees to shop for customer's delivery & curbside groceries (and no loss of jobs).
It’s not the self checkout that is the rub. It’s the receipt verification process and waiting on line going out the door. If you don’t trust me to run my purchases through the readers than have a checkout cashier do it. Even then you are going to double-check my cart against the receipt??? Come on!!! Sometimes I feel like I was shopping at a high end jewelry shop in NYC.

huge-pigeons
08-25-2023, 04:49 AM
It seems the same people that don’t know how to navigate a roundabout in TV don’t know how to check out themselves either. Both tasks are so simple to perform that’s why there is no training involved to do these 2 tasks.
You scan your item, bag it, pay with a cc, done. Inside lane cannot leave the 1st exit nor can the outside lane take the 3rd exit out of a roundabout, so simple.

If we still want Walmart prices, Walmart will have self checkouts to keep prices low. But the real question is, when you pay almost 2x at Publix and they have self checkouts, do they offer a large discount?

Because of the fallacy of everybody needs $15 hr to flip burgers, I hope every store/fast food establishment brings in robots/technology to perform these mundane tasks to save the owner some money

Aviva
08-25-2023, 05:02 AM
I have seen this exact statement made more than a few times (copy/paste?) I have always been one to embrace change and new technologies. I know humans in general fear change and like things "the way they were". We need to get over it. If there are no more jobs checking out groceries there will be new jobs doing something else. Self check out is so easy breazy I LOVE it!! There might be a learning curve for some - and yes some are handicapped and need assistance that will ALWAYS be available on some level.

Walking past the person checking the receipt - in my opinion is selfish, childish spoiled behavior and acting priviledged.....if I saw you doing that I would not think much of you as a person. It is also disrespectful to the people working in that position. Unfortunately there are always those that are going to try to cheat the system, steal, shoplift. For some its just typical human nature....sad yes!!

BJ's I think is the one that can scan your receipt and then when it scans something in your cart it knows if its on your receipt.....that will soon be everywhere. Great idea!!


Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

banjobob
08-25-2023, 05:03 AM
I think self checkout is great for small orders , using them for weekly shopping is absurd, I imagine the theft from non-checked items is great at busy times. The thieves will steal whenever they can.

mikeycereal
08-25-2023, 05:15 AM
Ah the self checkout. Keeps me quick and nimble. Want to retain the skills from my old grocery working days back in the 80s. You never know when you need that skill. The bag person went on break? I'll save you, Miss. :duck:

In my early 20's I would pull out the large folded paper bag with one hand, snap it, toss it in the air with a half spin and it would drop into the other open bag. Spin the stapler in my hand like a 6-shooter. Kids would look at their moms. Did you see that? Plastic later took the fun away.

Self checkouts don't trigger me, especially when I don't have a full cart. In and out quickly; I'll go straight to the smaller or non existent line.

La lamy
08-25-2023, 05:15 AM
I love self checkouts. I much prefer seeing every item is the price I expect. I've found errors a few times, and the person who oversees the process is able to correct the price.

ROCKETMAN
08-25-2023, 05:23 AM
Aldi will never have self checkout.They run checkout very efficiently.

westernrider75
08-25-2023, 06:02 AM
Sorry use self checkout whenever possible, why because no waiting, I can pack my groceries correctly. Saves time than standing in the cashier line.

But I get it can’t tell you how many try self checkout, don’t have a clue how to do it, and waste everyones time. So I am so glad most posters use a cashier.

Of course if you shop Sam’s BJs or Costco they check your basket no matter what.

I also prefer self checkouts for the reasons listed previously. But now at Sam’s I can do Scan and Go! What a time saver, I just scan the items show my phone as I walk out and I’m gone, no lines, no waiting!

Laker14
08-25-2023, 06:08 AM
I was self checking at a local (in NY) Walmart and the person checking on the customers suggested I hadn't scanned my two 6-packs of soda. In fact, I had, but thanks to her distracting me, I had neglected two other items. One of the contributing factors in all of this was the lack of space for placing items already scanned, and placing items to be scanned, consequently I lost track of what items in my cart had been scanned and replaced and what had yet to be scanned.

I don't mind doing it myself. I'm slow, but I'd rather be doing it slowly and carefully than standing in a line while someone else in front of me is dawdling about, looking for the dime and two pennies so she can make exact change.

JGibson
08-25-2023, 06:10 AM
Aldi will never have self checkout.They run checkout very efficiently.

Aldi, a German-based discount supermarket chain with 16 locations in Erie and Niagara counties, has been rolling out new self-checkout kiosks since 2019.0 The project has grown as new stores are opening right away with self-checkouts while old ones are slowly being updated. Some stores have more self-checkout kiosks than others, according to the Aldi Reviewer.1 Self-checkout stations started quietly rolling out in the US in 2021.

Think I will support an American company like Publix.

ABGinVA
08-25-2023, 06:12 AM
Aldi will never have self checkout.They run checkout very efficiently.

My Aldi in VA installed self checkouts months ago.

msilagy
08-25-2023, 06:15 AM
I love self checkout as I have the ability without trying to know the prices of the items in my cart. This is a wave of the future just like pumping your own gas and cleaning your own windows on your car. As for jobs, there are so many changes coming in the future your head would spin! I, myself, embrace the idea. Checking receipts, well I too would walk on by!

ThirdOfFive
08-25-2023, 06:20 AM
I never use self-check out. If that is all that is offered I walk out. Stores that will only offer self-checkout will get me to shop on line. Save me the gas, the parking, the time etc etc. No customer service is going to end up with no customers to serve.
I can understand that, and at first found (sometime still do) those self-checkouts infuriating, particularly is one of them decides to have an electronic nervous breakdown in the middle of my checking out. Has happened once or twice.

But realistically, though I prefer the shopping atmosphere at places like Publix, the fact remains that you’re paying a premium there for that atmosphere for products that may be of somewhat better quality, are not overall THAT much better. Case in point: a can of ready-to-eat Campbell’s soup, which as of last week anyway was selling at Publix for $3.35 a can, could be purchased at WallyWorld for $2.27 per can. That is almost a dollar savings per can, and if we’re stocking up on things like that it doesn’t take too many trips to those electronic teller stores to result in real savings.

ehendersonjr
08-25-2023, 06:22 AM
All a human checkout person does is scan the merchandise, just like the customer does at the self check machine. Why pay for what you can get your customers to do for free?
The push started when people refused to work because the government was paying them not to. Retailers were forced into self-check as the alternative to customers waiting in line for humans to check them out. The complaints were already coming in about wait times. If you want to wait for a human to do a job you can easily do yourself, fine. But I’ve already been in a local store that had no human checkout lanes. If you don’t like self-check be ready to cross some retailers off your shopping list.

JoelJohnson
08-25-2023, 06:32 AM
I worked for NCR in Rhode Island in the late '70s and "helped" (I had just joined the company) install one of the first self checkouts in a grocery store. At the time people said the same thing about taking jobs away. My response then (as is now) it frees up people to do other jobs that require a store person to do, like full the shelves, clean the isles, get shopping carts out of the parking lot, etc.
So, as already pointed out, you pump your own gas, go to the AMT for cash, shop online, etc.
I was a cashier "back in the day" and had rather do [I]anything[I] than that, including sorting bottles out back.

ThirdOfFive
08-25-2023, 06:37 AM
All a human checkout person does is scan the merchandise, just like the customer does at the self check machine. Why pay for what you can get your customers to do for free?
The push started when people refused to work because the government was paying them not to. Retailers were forced into self-check as the alternative to customers waiting in line for humans to check them out. The complaints were already coming in about wait times. If you want to wait for a human to do a job you can easily do yourself, fine. But I’ve already been in a local store that had no human checkout lanes. If you don’t like self-check be ready to cross some retailers off your shopping list.

True, true and true. Plus the fact that the merchant doesn’t have to pay the self-checkout machine to stand around and do nothing if there are not a lot of customers in the store.

Causey
08-25-2023, 06:48 AM
I don't like the self checkout, but I use it. Sadly, I can do a better job than the people they hire. It's a sad situation.

dlspiess
08-25-2023, 07:10 AM
Daughter used to work for super store. High theft rate in self checkout. I don’t mind self checkout when I only have a few items otherwise I use a cashier. Should make them express lanes of 6 items or less and if they are worried about theft then have a separate exit so you can check their receipts

airstreamingypsy
08-25-2023, 07:30 AM
Are those your own thoughts or did you find it on the internet? If the latter, you ought to give some credit to the source.

It's all over facebook......

Wondering
08-25-2023, 07:36 AM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!
Too much coffee this morning? You need to get a life!!

airstreamingypsy
08-25-2023, 07:43 AM
I never buy large amounts of food, being single there's no need. When I shop I look for the self checkout, so much faster than standing in line with the people who complain about self checkout. I appreciate all of you, please keep going to human checkers.

C4Boston
08-25-2023, 07:54 AM
At Lowes one morning, picked up 5 or 6 items and headed to cashier. No live cashiers, asked the "guard" overseeing self check outs why no humans and was told "we have these self checkouts for your convenience" So I handed him my items and told him to check me out, which he did.

MidWestIA
08-25-2023, 08:12 AM
It's coming they went to it Texas 2021 I was in stores with NO people checkout ALL self. You can see they want to here look for people checkout if line not long or big use it or they will think they can get rid of them all. And neighbors lose jobs

maistocars
08-25-2023, 08:18 AM
Not really about profits, but more so the lack of workers.

OhioBuckeye
08-25-2023, 08:31 AM
I personally like self check out, to me it’s faster! At least most people with lots of groceries will go though the ones that have cashiers. Can’t wait until they have you bag then leave. When you go through door it’ll know exactly what you have & just bill you. Then we’ll have other issues. Our country is getting to high tech!

Bill14564
08-25-2023, 08:36 AM
At Lowes one morning, picked up 5 or 6 items and headed to cashier. No live cashiers, asked the "guard" overseeing self check outs why no humans and was told "we have these self checkouts for your convenience" So I handed him my items and told him to check me out, which he did.

My mother would never use a self-service gas pump. She kept an ever-shrinking list of stations that still provided full service. Fortunately for her, my father was usually the one doing the driving and did not feel the same way. Other than NJ, I don't know where to find any full-service pumps today.

You may or may not like self-checkouts but to me the writing is on the wall: there will soon come a day when the list of stores you will patronize becomes very small.

Of course, with all the online shopping and home delivery options, there may soon be no stores to go to anyway.

FloridaLady
08-25-2023, 09:08 AM
I prefer self checkout esp if I am purchasing for someone else also. I enter in my phone number, do my order then 2nd order I enter moms number. Much faster for me to do 2 orders then having cashier.

PurePeach
08-25-2023, 09:43 AM
Unfortunately, it seems as though young people have no desire to fill these types of jobs. Add into that the fact that mimimum wages were forced to be raised here in Florida, companies have countered with alternative ways to continue without employing as many workers as before.

This isn’t a Florida thing. Minimum wage was forced to be raised everywhere and more places are instituting self-checkout rather than raise prices. Metro Atlanta has a Walmart where there are NO cashiers — only self-check.

dougawhite
08-25-2023, 10:14 AM
I remember going to Stew Leonards in Norwalk, CT in the late 70s. They were the first grocery store to use the UPC scanners at checkout. It was amazing to watch the clerk just push the items across the glass scanner and the prices would pop-up on a screen! The animated chicken and cow were also a big hit with the kids (and me...).

Velvet
08-25-2023, 10:17 AM
My mother would never use a self-service gas pump. She kept an ever-shrinking list of stations that still provided full service. Fortunately for her, my father was usually the one doing the driving and did not feel the same way. Other than NJ, I don't know where to find any full-service pumps today.

You may or may not like self-checkouts but to me the writing is on the wall: there will soon come a day when the list of stores you will patronize becomes very small.

Of course, with all the online shopping and home delivery options, there may soon be no stores to go to anyway.
Yes, reminds me of putting a frog in hot water. It jumps out. But if you put it in cold water on the stove and then heat it up, it stays, the same with some of our new “technology”. If you introduce (more work - less service) to people slowly they adapt to it… and even find reasons to praise it… wonder if the boiling frog does the same?

RobinM
08-25-2023, 10:59 AM
I choose to use self checkouts whenever they’re available. They’re generally faster, i can see right away if a price is not what I expected and take appropriate action, and I can bag my groceries just the way I want them bagged. I also don’t mind if stores have a self checkout to save on costs. They’re a business and I like that in a business.

celiarw
08-25-2023, 11:23 AM
Sorry use self checkout whenever possible, why because no waiting, I can pack my groceries correctly. Saves time than standing in the cashier line.

But I get it can’t tell you how many try self checkout, don’t have a clue how to do it, and waste everyones time. So I am so glad most posters use a cashier.

Of course if you shop Sam’s BJs or Costco they check your basket no matter what.

I use the Sams app to check out & LOVE it!

Topspinmo
08-25-2023, 12:00 PM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

Unfortunately that’s trend that going to happen most all businesses and chain restaurants. Just like all gender bath rooms, which I experienced recently when flying through remodeled major airport. Want guess which gender was using the family bathroom the most what I observed?

Topspinmo
08-25-2023, 12:09 PM
I never buy large amounts of food, being single there's no need. When I shop I look for the self checkout, so much faster than standing in line with the people who complain about self checkout. I appreciate all of you, please keep going to human checkers.


In 5 years or less there will be lines at self checks. Then, have same old complaints about people ahead. Especially when someone self checking and forgets something and goes and gets it.

Villagesgal
08-25-2023, 12:17 PM
Stores are losing money with self checkout. They make it too easy to just steal items without ringing them up. I see it happen all the time when I'm forced to use self checkout because there's only 1 checker and the line is 10+ deep. Especially here in the Villages there are plenty of seniors who could use a good part time job as a grocery checker, so no excuse saying there is no one to fill those jobs.

Topspinmo
08-25-2023, 12:27 PM
Stores are losing money with self checkout. They make it too easy to just steal items without ringing them up. I see it happen all the time when I'm forced to use self checkout because there's only 1 checker and the line is 10+ deep. Especially here in the Villages there are plenty of seniors who could use a good part time job as a grocery checker, so no excuse saying there is no one to fill those jobs.

Most have security team (especially Walmarts) watching every move for up above with hidden cameras recording everywhere. Also some have security alarms the door will alarm if item wasn’t scanned.

shut the front door
08-25-2023, 01:13 PM
That whole OP has been circulating on the internet for years. I guess the author gets all haughty when Sam's, BJ's, Costco.... check their receipt, too.
I will take self service checkout any chance I get. I'd rather do it myself than wait behind some geezer who still writes checks at the cashier or doesn't know how to operate the credit card machine. I've wasted a lot of time over the years waiting behind people who are oblivious to the crowd waiting behind them.

kkingston57
08-25-2023, 01:20 PM
Unfortunately, it seems as though young people have no desire to fill these types of jobs. Add into that the fact that mimimum wages were forced to be raised here in Florida, companies have countered with alternative ways to continue without employing as many workers as before.

And with more and more self check out, bet there is more un-paid for merchandise going out the door and a good % of those items are items that the customer un purposely failed to scan. With lowered birth rates there are less and less young people available for low paying jobs. Try to avoid self check out as I do not want to get arrested or alleged to be a shop lifter if I MISTAKENLY do not scan an item.

Topspinmo
08-25-2023, 03:32 PM
And with more and more self check out, bet there is more un-paid for merchandise going out the door and a good % of those items are items that the customer un purposely failed to scan. With lowered birth rates there are less and less young people available for low paying jobs. Try to avoid self check out as I do not want to get arrested or alleged to be a shop lifter if I MISTAKENLY do not scan an item.

Usually alarms go off and just stop and wait for someone to check out you receipt. If they find something and nits. Or glitz you just go back and pay for it. Now if you run out the door naturally you’re shoplifter.

Taltarzac725
08-25-2023, 05:13 PM
I try to use the real people at grocery stores and the like as much as possible. If I only have a few items I will sometimes use the self check-out just because it is easier to get all the items through.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-25-2023, 05:31 PM
Cashiers down here are SLOW as molasses. They were quick up north, "a sense of urgency" was an actual job requirement. I've been a supermarket cashier in three different states, I've been a supermarket customer in six states plus Canada. Florida, so far, is the absolute worst. The ******* even at Publix aren't taught to bag correctly; their big bagging employee video is more about cross contamination. They aren't taught to "square" or "frame" the bag, so you end up with bags tipping over, contents toppling out of bags, and often twice as many bags as the customer needs. Eggs and bread and two 2-pack mini catfood serving packages? Three bags! Or - put the eggs on the bottom. Put the bread on top of the eggs, and the cat food on top of the bread. Just one bag, weighing less than two pounds. Did you know you can fill a plastic grocery bag with up to four 2-litre bottles and they won't tip over or break the bag? Stronger-looking customers should be trusted to carry that. But instead, they're told one bottle per bag, standing up. So of course when you go to open one of them when you get home, you make sure to do it over the sink because they all inevitably fall over in the car and create a fizz-bomb.

I usually give the ****** a break when I shop anywhere they don't have self-service, because they don't know how to bag correctly. I use the self check-out everywhere else.

patfla06
08-25-2023, 07:00 PM
Your Thoughts..................

To all the Supermarkets and big commercial stores that operate 'Self Check-outs'....... You are heading towards almost exclusively self-checkout now.

Yesterday I went shopping at one such store and the lady checking receipts at the exit was stopping everyone.

I didn't choose to participate in that nonsense, I had already filled my cart, emptied my cart and scanned the items, refilled my cart and so I just skipped the exit line and left.
I heard her saying "Umm - Excuse me “ as I kept walking and raised the receipt above my head, leaving the store.

You can either trust me to do self-checkout, or you can put your cashiers back in place like it used to be.
• I'm not interested in proving that I did your job for you.
• If you want me to be a cashier with no training then that's your problem not mine.
• Keep employing young people and give them job opportunities.

YOU DON'T PAY ME TO SCAN MY OWN SHOPPING.
YOU DON’T GIVE ME STAFF DISCOUNT FOR WORKING FOR YOU.

Signed ......All of us
People we need to share this statement its basically about PROFIT to the stores AND putting People out of a JOB....!!!

EXACTLY!!
I get no discount for doing the work you should be doing!!

tophcfa
08-25-2023, 07:16 PM
Went to CVS the other day and brought my basket of stuff to the checkout area. There were three employees standing there as I waited at a cash register, but nobody helped me. I asked if someone there could ring up my stuff and was told I had to use the self checkout. I informed them that I didn’t want to self checkout and repeated that I would appreciate one of them ringing me up at a register. They responded again that I had to self check out and they could help me if necessary. I tossed my basket of stuff by a cash register and told them their help at the self checkout wouldn’t be necessary as I walked out the door. CVS’s loss, if the want my business someone can ring me up at a cash register, otherwise I’ll order the stuff on Amazon.

Taltarzac725
08-25-2023, 07:46 PM
Cashiers down here are SLOW as molasses. They were quick up north, "a sense of urgency" was an actual job requirement. I've been a supermarket cashier in three different states, I've been a supermarket customer in six states plus Canada. Florida, so far, is the absolute worst. The ******* even at Publix aren't taught to bag correctly; their big bagging employee video is more about cross contamination. They aren't taught to "square" or "frame" the bag, so you end up with bags tipping over, contents toppling out of bags, and often twice as many bags as the customer needs. Eggs and bread and two 2-pack mini catfood serving packages? Three bags! Or - put the eggs on the bottom. Put the bread on top of the eggs, and the cat food on top of the bread. Just one bag, weighing less than two pounds. Did you know you can fill a plastic grocery bag with up to four 2-litre bottles and they won't tip over or break the bag? Stronger-looking customers should be trusted to carry that. But instead, they're told one bottle per bag, standing up. So of course when you go to open one of them when you get home, you make sure to do it over the sink because they all inevitably fall over in the car and create a fizz-bomb.

I usually give the ****** a break when I shop anywhere they don't have self-service, because they don't know how to bag correctly. I use the self check-out everywhere else.

I have had poor ******* as well as good ones at some Publixes here in the Villages as well as those in Palm Harbor, Safety Harbor, and Oldsmar, FL.

Sometimes I have to do it myself again after I get back to my car or golf cart.

shaw8700@outlook.com
08-25-2023, 10:46 PM
[QUOTE=ThirdOfFive;2248688]

That want to work or need to. People don’t need to work if given everything, ie by their parents.

Or the government.

Topspinmo
08-26-2023, 08:21 AM
Remember driving with my uncle when i was a little kid. Had to pay a toll on the parkway near him…10cent tolls. Of course they had the lanes with baskets to throw yoir dime in. He said to me…i always go to the toll collecter…u do t want them to lose their jobs!

Fast forward now….no toll collectors anywhere..all electronic tolling.

Times and technology change. We cant save low level jobs.

Plus charge transaction fee on top of toll, so guess the automated system costs more than manual labor collecting tolls. After 10 years IMO the tolls should come off, but once start money making schemes it hard to stop them. Don’t say maintenance cause that why we pay 25 cents plus on gallon of gas.

Michael G.
08-26-2023, 08:53 AM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/why-shoppers-are-being-advised-to-avoid-self-checkout/ar-AA1fJpDw?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eaf40419345d48678e4925b2b3b52e72&ei=54

mntlblok
08-26-2023, 08:54 AM
[QUOTE=Michael G.;2248699]

Your right but this is mainly the fault of our educational system where these skills are not taught

Now that's a tough one. I'd have a pretty hard time designing a system that could *prevent* a capable human from learning addition and subtraction while still spending six or so hours a day, nine months out of the year, for several years, holed up in those classrooms.

It's always seemed to me that education isn't something that is done "to" you. Pretty sure there has to be some active effort on the part of the student. And, percentage-wise the knowledge that I have that came from a school is minute. Either you're curious enough to learn stuff or you ain't.

Rote learning isn't much fun, and most won't do it without practically having a gun to their head (or be self motivated). I can't be convinced that there's another way (besides rote). I recall noticing that the 4th-6th grade grammar books all looked almost identical, and I'm *certain* that they all had that same table of subjective and objective pronouns and where each should be used. Seriously boring stuff that we were *all* subjected to repeatedly. If you didn't learn it - and it seems to me that an amazingly large percentage of Americans didn't - I can't see how you put that on "the system" - unless you count the inability to enforce discipline or otherwise demand compliance.

Seems to me that "good schools" and "good teachers" equate to having the luxury of having "good students". Big nature over nurture guy here. . .

I shop little enough that I kind of get a kick out of the "self check-out" thing - *especially* now that I can nearly always use that little beeping gun - and especially now that I no longer seem to have to pause for that couple of seconds before consecutively beeping multiple, identical items. I *am* easily entertained. BTW, it's been over 50 years now since I was one of the fastest bagboys in the country. These little plastic bags are *so* tricky, though!

As to the patting down to get out the door, the apparent questioning of my integrity most definitely does still irk me, but weighed against waiting in lines, I've resigned myself to it being the lesser of two evils. Plus, it gives me a chance to test my skills at getting a giggle out of the "patter-downer". Seldom fail. :-)

Have never been a fan of paying folks to dig holes and then fill them back up, but I also don't understand how civilization works, even as well as it does - nor how we've gotten this far without much bigger problems manifesting over the use of nuclear weapons.

Last I heard, neither New Jersey nor Oregon would allow self-pumping of gasoline. Bad info? I'll de derned. Timely. New Jersey is the last state in America where drivers can't pump gas | CNN Business (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/business/new-jersey-gas-station-self-service-ban/index.html#:~:text=New%20Jersey%20is%20now%20the,t heir%20pumps%20as%20self%2Dserve).

mntlblok
08-26-2023, 08:57 AM
Ah the self checkout. Keeps me quick and nimble. Want to retain the skills from my old grocery working days back in the 80s. You never know when you need that skill. The bag person went on break? I'll save you, Miss. :duck:

In my early 20's I would pull out the large folded paper bag with one hand, snap it, toss it in the air with a half spin and it would drop into the other open bag. Spin the stapler in my hand like a 6-shooter. Kids would look at their moms. Did you see that? Plastic later took the fun away.

Self checkouts don't trigger me, especially when I don't have a full cart. In and out quickly; I'll go straight to the smaller or non existent line.

Wow. I defer to your superior skills!

Jima72
08-26-2023, 05:14 PM
Publix can afford hiring cashiers with the prices they charge.

Jima72
08-26-2023, 05:17 PM
So could you be bothered to ask to speak to the manager. You do know the employees could care less if you leave and not come back.

manaboutown
08-26-2023, 06:43 PM
I like to have my groceries checked out but I prefer to bag my own groceries to assure it is done correctly. I worked at grocery stores from age 14 - 16 bagging groceries and actually still enjoy the process. I realize grocery stores receive tax incentives for hiring mentally challenged people to do that job nowadays and I am happy they are employed but I do want my groceries properly bagged.

coffeebean
08-26-2023, 07:13 PM
I also prefer self checkouts for the reasons listed previously. But now at Sam’s I can do Scan and Go! What a time saver, I just scan the items show my phone as I walk out and I’m gone, no lines, no waiting!

Agree. Great system. Wish Costco would get scan and go.

coffeebean
08-26-2023, 07:45 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/why-shoppers-are-being-advised-to-avoid-self-checkout/ar-AA1fJpDw?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=eaf40419345d48678e4925b2b3b52e72&ei=54

It's not rocket science. When you scan an item, the machine makes a "beep" and the scanned item charge shows up on the screen. It's not difficult to see if your item was charged correctly. I will continue to use the self checkouts. I prefer them when I don't have a lot of items.

Randall55
08-26-2023, 09:05 PM
It's not rocket science. When you scan an item, the machine makes a "beep" and the scanned item charge shows up on the screen. It's not difficult to see if your item was charged correctly. I will continue to use the self checkouts. I prefer them when I don't have a lot of items. Except when you keep scanning an item over and over and there is no beep, or you have vision problems and can't see the screen, or you are overcharged on an item, or you scan an item and when you start placing it in the bag the register charges you again, or you have to use the scale and the register charges you an obscene amount, or you don't know the code for a product and it is not on the screen, or the credit card is not accepted, or the register will not take one of your bills. And, thoughout this process, the attendant has no interest in helping you. Easy to see why people hate self checkouts or just place some items in the bag and leave without paying for them.

margaretmattson
08-27-2023, 01:05 AM
Except when you keep scanning an item over and over and there is no beep, or you have vision problems and can't see the screen, or you are overcharged on an item, or you scan an item and when you start placing it in the bag the register charges you again, or you have to use the scale and the register charges you an obscene amount, or you don't know the code for a product and it is not on the screen, or the credit card is not accepted, or the register will not take one of your bills. And, though this process, the attendant has no interest in helping you. Easy to see why people hate self checkouts or just place some items in the bag and leave without paying for them. Sometimes I get through self-checkout without a problem. Other times, it is a headache! Seems when something goes wrong, you cannot find an employee to help.

Kelevision
08-27-2023, 02:30 AM
I use them all the time at Publix and have never been stopped to show my receipt. I’ve never seen a person checking at the door.

MrFlorida
08-27-2023, 09:03 AM
Sam's self check out works , until you want to buy beer or wine..... then it all comes to a screeching halt.....

Bill14564
08-27-2023, 09:08 AM
Sam's self check out works , until you want to buy beer or wine..... then it all comes to a screeching halt.....

Have you tried it? What happens?

MrFlorida
08-27-2023, 09:44 AM
Have you tried it? What happens?

Yes, many times....you have to go and look for a cashier that's not busy to come and approve your age... and that's not fun....

Jima72
08-27-2023, 07:03 PM
What I find annoying is the store not keeping the price on the shelf accurate. So I just let my mind goof up and ring white onions as yellow onions and save the money. Yes it is stealing but they can spend some money and put cashiers back on the job. Actually the last time I used a real person cashier they stole my card information and charged hair straightener and other ethnic beauty products from a online california company. Vystar handled it eventually and told me it happens a lot at that particular walmart. That is my motivation for my petty slipups.

Jima72
08-27-2023, 07:06 PM
Agree. Great system. Wish Costco would get scan and go.

Can’t complain about costco at all. Never takes me more than a minute or two for them to ring me up. Of course I have all the upc bars up so they can scan without moving anything.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-27-2023, 07:07 PM
Now that's a tough one. I'd have a pretty hard time designing a system that could *prevent* a capable human from learning addition and subtraction while still spending six or so hours a day, nine months out of the year, for several years, holed up in those classrooms.

It's always seemed to me that education isn't something that is done "to" you. Pretty sure there has to be some active effort on the part of the student. And, percentage-wise the knowledge that I have that came from a school is minute. Either you're curious enough to learn stuff or you ain't.

Rote learning isn't much fun, and most won't do it without practically having a gun to their head (or be self motivated). I can't be convinced that there's another way (besides rote). I recall noticing that the 4th-6th grade grammar books all looked almost identical, and I'm *certain* that they all had that same table of subjective and objective pronouns and where each should be used. Seriously boring stuff that we were *all* subjected to repeatedly. If you didn't learn it - and it seems to me that an amazingly large percentage of Americans didn't - I can't see how you put that on "the system" - unless you count the inability to enforce discipline or otherwise demand compliance.

Seems to me that "good schools" and "good teachers" equate to having the luxury of having "good students". Big nature over nurture guy here. . .

I shop little enough that I kind of get a kick out of the "self check-out" thing - *especially* now that I can nearly always use that little beeping gun - and especially now that I no longer seem to have to pause for that couple of seconds before consecutively beeping multiple, identical items. I *am* easily entertained. BTW, it's been over 50 years now since I was one of the fastest bagboys in the country. These little plastic bags are *so* tricky, though!

As to the patting down to get out the door, the apparent questioning of my integrity most definitely does still irk me, but weighed against waiting in lines, I've resigned myself to it being the lesser of two evils. Plus, it gives me a chance to test my skills at getting a giggle out of the "patter-downer". Seldom fail. :-)

Have never been a fan of paying folks to dig holes and then fill them back up, but I also don't understand how civilization works, even as well as it does - nor how we've gotten this far without much bigger problems manifesting over the use of nuclear weapons.

Last I heard, neither New Jersey nor Oregon would allow self-pumping of gasoline. Bad info? I'll de derned. Timely. New Jersey is the last state in America where drivers can't pump gas | CNN Business (https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/09/business/new-jersey-gas-station-self-service-ban/index.html#:~:text=New%20Jersey%20is%20now%20the,t heir%20pumps%20as%20self%2Dserve).

I don't remember "grammar books" in grades 4-6. I remember reading books in earlier levels, stuff like Fun with Dick and Jane and similar. I distinctly remember our class reading The Hobbit in 6th grade, and I didn't learn how to diagram a sentence until high school. By then, though, I was already reading on a college level. After a disastrous First Grade reading class, I aced every writing and literature class through college graduation.

What gets me is that even most adult cashiers don't know how to "count up". I can't blame "the younger generation" because most of the cashiers at Publix are older than I am. If the total comes to $37.42 and you give them two twenties, three singles, 2 pennies, a dime and a nickel, they just give you a blank stare. Cashiers: it means the customer wants a $5 bill. And three quarters. It's not rocket science. It's called "counting up."

It's $37.42
You give them 43.17.

Subtract 17 from 42. That leaves you with 25. So now you count up. From 25 to 50, 75, $1.00 = 3 quarters to make the $43, and remove all the digits on the right side of the decimal. That means you need 5 more dollars to bring the $37 to $42 (because you already counted up one of those dollars, so subtract that dollar from the $43).

So the total change the customer gets is $5.75, in the form of one $5 bill and 3 quarters.

These days they call it "Common Core Math" that parents of kids in the 2010's all went insane and blew their collective gaskets over. But it really is very simple. It's just counting, nothing more or less.

Bill14564
08-27-2023, 07:08 PM
Yes, many times....you have to go and look for a cashier that's not busy to come and approve your age... and that's not fun....

Look for a cashier to come and approve? Why not just walk up to one?

Odd that the scan and go isn't working for you the way it is described on the website. I'll have to try it sometime.

Oh wait! You are using the self checkout line and not the scan and go app. Yeah, I can see where that could be a problem. But I don't think that is unique to Sam's. I imagine alcohol requires an id check at any self checkout line.

OrangeBlossomBaby
08-27-2023, 07:12 PM
Look for a cashier to come and approve? Why not just walk up to one?

Odd that the scan and go isn't working for you the way it is described on the website. I'll have to try it sometime.

If you try to scan alcohol, the register will stop you and not let you go any further until an associate puts in their numbers to indicate that they've verified your age on your ID. It usually causes the "help" light over the register to start flashing to alert the associates that your register requires something from them.

Bill14564
08-27-2023, 07:25 PM
...

What gets me is that even most adult cashiers don't know how to "count up". I can't blame "the younger generation" because most of the cashiers at Publix are older than I am. If the total comes to $37.42 and you give them two twenties, three singles, 2 pennies, a dime and a nickel, they just give you a blank stare. Cashiers: it means the customer wants a $5 bill. And three quarters. It's not rocket science. It's called "counting up."

...

If you handed that to me I would give you back five singles, two quarters, a dime, two nickels, and five pennies. Not my job to guess why you overpaid, my job is to take payment and give back change.

Stu from NYC
08-27-2023, 08:56 PM
If you handed that to me I would give you back five singles, two quarters, a dime, two nickels, and five pennies. Not my job to guess why you overpaid, my job is to take payment and give back change.

Customer should say why they are doing this to prevent confusion.

mntlblok
08-28-2023, 03:54 AM
Can’t complain about costco at all. Never takes me more than a minute or two for them to ring me up. Of course I have all the upc bars up so they can scan without moving anything.

Why didn't *I* think of that??!

coffeebean
08-28-2023, 04:27 AM
Can’t complain about costco at all. Never takes me more than a minute or two for them to ring me up. Of course I have all the upc bars up so they can scan without moving anything.

With scan and go there is no waiting on a line to get to the register. You scan the items yourself then get on the line to exit the warehouse along with all the other customers. Scan and Go just eliminates the line at the register. Wish Costco would get that technology.

We have not purchased alcohol at Sam's using Scan and Go so I'm not sure how that is handled with that technology.

golfing eagles
08-28-2023, 05:48 AM
If you handed that to me I would give you back five singles, two quarters, a dime, two nickels, and five pennies. Not my job to guess why you overpaid, my job is to take payment and give back change.

Passive aggressive much???

Bill14564
08-28-2023, 05:56 AM
Passive aggressive much???

Not at all. The two twenties would pay for the $37.42. I would hand the rest back then make change.

Hand me two twenties and 42 cents and I can see what you are after. Hand me two twenties, some singles, and a bunch of change that doesn't add to 42 cents and I don't have a clue. I want to make customers happy but that includes the eight people in line behind you that aren't interested in hearing you explain "counting up" to me.

golfing eagles
08-28-2023, 06:00 AM
Not at all. The two twenties would pay for the $37.42. I would hand the rest back then make change.

Hand me two twenties and 42 cents and I can see what you are after. Hand me two twenties, some singles, and a bunch of change that doesn't add to 42 cents and I don't have a clue. I want to make customers happy but that includes the eight people in line behind you that aren't interested in hearing you explain "counting up" to me.

That’s OK, I have no idea what “counting up” is, and even less idea of why it’s needed. It’s called subtraction and we learned it in first grade