Heat. Heat. Heat.

[Tvflguy]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

[MrFlorida]

Eveything runs in cycles, hot summers, cold winters.... In a few months everything will change again.

[margaretmattson]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

The heat is hard for me to handle, as well. I stay indoors most of the time; gathering in the rec center to play cards or crafting. I get nervous during the lightening storms. (I think I read too many articles about homes getting struck and burning down)¹ Now, a hurricane is stirring near the Yucatan. It looks like it is headed to northern Florida. Governor DeSantis has already placed emergency protocol into action. I know most of you say we are safe in the Villages but we are in the storm track window. Crossing my fingers that all will be well.

I have been here for 20• years. August and September are always the worst. Not really sure if this year is worse than others or we believe it is because of the constant heat advisories. I dont remember getting so many heat advisories in past years.

[larbud]

More media coverage pushing the agenda that’s all..

[bob47]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

22 years in Florida for us and this is no question the hottest, most humid summer. Memory is always rosy but if I'm not mistaken the first few summers we would wake up to typically around 72 degrees. Now waking up to 75 degrees or maybe higher.

Our first impression of summer in central Florida was that it wasn't unbearably hot, just really long, from May through September.

[blueash]

More media coverage pushing the agenda that’s all..

I am pleased that the media is pushing information, like what is the temperature, what is the heat index, what is the difference between those, and what is the risk of being exposed to high heat index days. And the agenda of keeping us safe and informed. That is a very worthy agenda. YMMV

As to the original post.. your perception is correct. June 2023 was the hottest June recorded (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/global-climate-summary-june-2023#:~:text=Temperature,the%20warmest%20June%20on %20record.), and July the hottest July recorded (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-clocks-july-2023-as-hottest-month-on-record-ever-since-1880). No, I got that wrong. July was the hottest month ever recorded, not just the hottest July. And El nino is starting up in the Pacific which if it does its usual thing will make for a warming trend over the next year above where we are now.

And the post that the evenings do not seem to be as cool is correct at least using data from Sarasota Florida (https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/article277849378.html) where as elsewhere record heat is a significant story.

[Stu from NYC]

Another month and we can complain about cold weather

[Two Bills]

Lousy summer in UK. Cool and wet.
Nice Spring, then it all went downhill.
Nothing to do with Climate change or El Nino.
All started with Wimbledon Tennis, and Test Match cricket at same time against Australia.
Summer never stood a chance against those two.

[Fredster]

This morning I spoke with some friends from where I came from ( a far western suburb of Chicago) and they told me the high there this past week was around 100 and very humid.
That reminded me of how hot it got in July- August up there, and how I would curtail outdoor activities from 10-11am, and seek A/C, so I’m pretty ok right here!

[rustyp]

Noon today northern NY 60 degrees F. Forecast 49 degrees tonight 42 wed night.

[coffeebean]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

So far, this hot summer, I have worked in the garden twice. At first light, I'm out there in the thick of it for about two hours. Then I come inside, shower and bask in the coolness of our air conditioned home. I have not been effected by this heat and humidity at all as I stay in the cool air 99.9% of the time.

[Rainger99]

Third summer here. Like the past two summers, when I go outside, it is in the morning before 10 and in the evening after 5. Usually stay inside between 10 and 5 but I have not noticed a substantial difference this year than past years.

In fact, I thought it was cooler in the evening this year than last summer! Perhaps I am getting used to it.

[alwann]

I look at it this way. If I end up going to hell, this on-the--job training could help.

[Fredster]

I look at it this way. If I end up going to hell, this on-the--job training could help.

I knew there was a silver lining in every cloud! :1rotfl:

[Randall55]

I look at it this way. If I end up going to hell, this on-the--job training could help. Ever hear the joke : I don't care if I go to hell, that's where all my friends are! Maybe, this really is great training for the hereafter. Take my golf clubs and I'm set!

[mikeycereal]

Have some brown patches in my grass. 3-4 are circle shapes. Thought someone had spilled a chemical or put too much weed killer... or even thought of bugs or a disease. My Lawn care co. says it's probably the 115 heat index. Having someone come out to check on it. Ugh.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

Well then in that case, it's because you're getting old and feeble. Thoughts and prayers.

[patfla06]

We’ve been in Florida 26 years this September and it is the
hottest Summer since we’ve been here.

[golfing eagles]

Have some brown patches in my grass. 3-4 are circle shapes. Thought someone had spilled a chemical or put too much weed killer... or even thought of bugs or a disease. My Lawn care co. says it's probably the 115 heat index. Having someone come out to check on it. Ugh.

Due to the “heat index”, how the actual temperature “feels” to people, and only in those circles??? I think not

[skarra]

Get used to it folks.

Or better still - move back North. We get afternoon thunderstorms now - very tropical.

So glad I delayed moving down south or buy something there to do the snowbird thing. Don’t need to any longer.

[Eg_cruz]

I agree, my grandson and I both at the same time said…….I can’t remember it ever being this hot. Last three weeks have been too hot for sure.

[nsantelli]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.


According to NASA, when the Hunga-Tonga Hunga-Ha'apai volcano erupted in 2022, it was the largest explosion since Krakatoa blew its top in 1883. Like Krakatoa, if this was a surface eruption we would be having a record cool summer, due to dust in the upper atmosphere. However, it was an underwater explosion which shot millions of tons of water vapor into the stratosphere. This increased the amount of water vapor in the upper atmosphere by 10% Water vapor is a "greenhouse" gas. Unfortunately NASA says it will take several years for water vapor levels to return to pre-explosion levels.

[srswans]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

IMO, the news is brainwashing us into believing that it is significantly hotter now.

True, we may have higher recorded temps here and there but how much higher? 0.1 degree will set a new record but is that really hotter?

I also have the impression that the news mentions heat and climate issues much more frequently now. Perhaps someone is pushing an agenda?

[NoMo50]

Summer came early this year, and Mother Nature has kept her foot on the gas since the first week of June. Usually, we could expect a few days, or a week, of moderate weather with temps in the 80's. So far this summer, the norm has been temps in the 90's, with no real breaks. But...it is summer. It is Florida. It is hot. This is not news.

[msilagy]

The Chicago comment was only for a couple days 98-100 degrees - have had one of the best summers I can remember here in the suburbs. The humidity during those days doesn't compare to what I experience In TV mid Oct when I come back. I work outside at 8am and break a sweat soon with it dripping and stinging my eyes in Fl.. So don't think for one minute the suburbs of Chicago compare, because on those days I gardened for an hour and never broke a sweat. 70's, 80, and 90,s mixed in all summer. Nice try -

[golfing eagles]

I am pleased that the media is pushing information, like what is the temperature, what is the heat index, what is the difference between those, and what is the risk of being exposed to high heat index days. And the agenda of keeping us safe and informed. That is a very worthy agenda. YMMV

As to the original post.. your perception is correct. June 2023 was the hottest June recorded (https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/global-climate-summary-june-2023#:~:text=Temperature,the%20warmest%20June%20on %20record.), and July the hottest July recorded (https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-clocks-july-2023-as-hottest-month-on-record-ever-since-1880). No, I got that wrong. July was the hottest month ever recorded, not just the hottest July. And El nino is starting up in the Pacific which if it does its usual thing will make for a warming trend over the next year above where we are now.

And the post that the evenings do not seem to be as cool is correct at least using data from Sarasota Florida (https://www.bradenton.com/news/local/article277849378.html) where as elsewhere record heat is a significant story.

From a public health perspective, I agree with you. From a political propaganda perspective, enough already

[ThirdOfFive]

Rest assured. Nothing like a group of geezers to find something to bellyache about.

It is all in how we perceive things. I’ve been in TV now for three years plus and love summers here. I prefer recreating (tennis, golf, walking) on summer afternoons: fewer people getting in the way, and tee times on all the executive courses are for the most part “walk up”. Lawn looks great. Patio garden is nearing the end of season but the peppers are still abundant.

Just spent five days in Minnesota (sitting at MSP right now, my flight back to heaven boards in 35 minutes). We took in the State Fair yesterday: my comment to my son and granddaughter was that “I don’t ever recall seeing so many white-skinned people in one place”. Got several compliments on my tan, which is another plus related to Florida life.

If people think they should be suffering, they will. For myself, I choose not to.

[Warcats]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

I believe this has been the hottest summer on record.

[bonrich]

We are snowbirding it here in southwestern NYS. We have had warm weather mid 80's and higher. Heat and humidity is not so bad, but this is the time of year when the BEEs become aggressive and a bit cranky! Flowers have bloomed past their prime and the pollen not in abundance. We may try to sit on our deck in the afternoon with coffee and a snack, and within minutes we are not alone, to the point we give up and go back inside. I tried to do some work in our back yard and I end up being chased out by the bees if I get too close to any kind of a flower. Had one yesterday chased me up our deck and into the house, buzzing around my head.
I don't like bees! Maybe they can tell...........

[allsport]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

Having been here a decade and a half, this is by far the worst summer I have ever experienced. The continuing climate changes must be recognized and dealt with . Just saying forget it does not deal with the horrendous problems we are facing.

[Rwirish]

Not much different than other years. Enjoy, it will turn cold soon enough.

[G.R.I.T.S.]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

I’ve been here 18 also. I think it’s mostly age. Not denying it’s hot.

[NotGolfer]

I have family members who lived/worked in agriculture. It is said the weather goes in cycles. I recall as a kid (not living with "air") many summers that we had heat/humidity. My mom would close the drapes, tell us to keep inside as much as possible so we didn't keep opening/closing doors. She'd make meals that didn't require cooking. THEN we'd all sit in the room with a large fan and just "chill". Some years later, we'd moved to a new house that had a walk-out basement. My parents had made a type of apartment in it with a kitchenette) and living area. We'd go down there as the basement was cooler and she'd do the same thing re: meals. I can't stand the extreme heat and humidity neither so am very thankful we have "air" now!!! I suppose age and other things has something to do with the intoleration. BUT that said, FL isn't the only state experiencing this. The northern states have been too....sometimes worse than here.

[Ashley from UK]

We came back for festival season. Black Deer Festival - two days of heavy rain. Rock The Moat, heavy rain 🙁, was expecting heavy rain at Hever Castle for last night of the proms but was pleasently surprised no rain.

[JWGifford]

It’s definitely been a hot summer. Also, as we age we become less heat tolerant due to aging, certain chronic health conditions, and possible pharmaceuticals we may be taking.

[Wondering]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.
I agree!

[Vermilion Villager]

More media coverage pushing the agenda that’s all..
Thermometers don't lie......:mornincoffee:

[kendi]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

Agree, hard to tolerate. Even the predawn heat and humidity is oppressive. We usually pop back and forth throughout the year but this summer after one short trip down we’re staying up North for the duration.

[Stu from NYC]

4th summer seems hottest since we are here guess it is old age.

[kendi]

I have family members who lived/worked in agriculture. It is said the weather goes in cycles. I recall as a kid (not living with "air") many summers that we had heat/humidity. My mom would close the drapes, tell us to keep inside as much as possible so we didn't keep opening/closing doors. She'd make meals that didn't require cooking. THEN we'd all sit in the room with a large fan and just "chill". Some years later, we'd moved to a new house that had a walk-out basement. My parents had made a type of apartment in it with a kitchenette) and living area. We'd go down there as the basement was cooler and she'd do the same thing re: meals. I can't stand the extreme heat and humidity neither so am very thankful we have "air" now!!! I suppose age and other things has something to do with the intoleration. BUT that said, FL isn't the only state experiencing this. The northern states have been too....sometimes worse than here.

You’re right about the northern states. Although in Ohio the extreme heat is short lived. Beautiful weather this week. Low 80s and low humidity which is unusual for August here.

[Vermilion Villager]

IMO, the news is brainwashing us into believing that it is significantly hotter now.

True, we may have higher recorded temps here and there but how much higher? 0.1 degree will set a new record but is that really hotter?

I also have the impression that the news mentions heat and climate issues much more frequently now. Perhaps someone is pushing an agenda?
You mean climate change denial???

[maistocars]

Just came in from Texas where it was 115 degrees. This is like Fall to me.

[OhioBuckeye]

I lived in Florida too, but I can tell you that it’s hotter here in Texas than it’s been in Florida we’ve had over 30 days that it’s been over 102, we also had at least a week probably at 110 actual degrees & heat index at 112 to one day I know of for sure that heat index at 116. We’ve had just in our subdivision probably over 100 home with air conditioning issues, fortunately we haven’t. We haven’t had any rainfall here in the Argyle, TX.,area for over a month, 99% of our yards are totally brown. Florida, Texas & everything in between think Ins. rates are high now just wait, plus us tax payers are supporting all the immigrants. Just wait we haven’t seen nothing yet!

[GATORBILL66]

I have been in Florida for 50 years, l lived in Vero Beach, Orlando and now the The Villages. I enjoy the heat as I can remember playing on a traveling softball team and playing up to 6 games a day in over 90 degree weather.

That's why we are here in Florida to enjoy the heat and avoid cold weather. Get out there and enjoy it!

[Nana2Teddy]

Not much different than other years. Enjoy, it will turn cold soon enough.
Promise??! It can’t turn cold soon enough for this SoCal transplant. ;)

[bruce213]

Yes that's it, it's always wise to ignore the obvious. (I'm not gaining weight, my pants must be shrinking)

It's climate change.

[Tyson]

In NE Pa. we cant get a day without rain and a temp in the 80s. Worst summer ever. Golf courses are always cart path only so if you have a bad knee you miss a lot of playing.

[BostonRich]

I agree with you. Actually just spoke to my neighbors yesterday about this being the hottest summer since we moved here six years ago. I think for me the problem has been that there has not been a break. No comfortable days between the really hot ones. Just day after day of "excessive heat warnings". I don't remember that being the case in previous summers.

[wfp113]

I've been in the Villages for 21 summers and this is by far the worst. About 10-12 or so years ago we had a summer with over 60 straight days of 90 or above but not mid to upper 90's. Soon to cool off we hope.
wfp113

[Jhrath7@gmail.com]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.
No worse than other years!

[lphallrd]

We are snowbirding it here in southwestern NYS. We have had warm weather mid 80's and higher. Heat and humidity is not so bad, but this is the time of year when the BEEs become aggressive and a bit cranky! Flowers have bloomed past their prime and the pollen not in abundance. We may try to sit on our deck in the afternoon with coffee and a snack, and within minutes we are not alone, to the point we give up and go back inside. I tried to do some work in our back yard and I end up being chased out by the bees if I get too close to any kind of a flower. Had one yesterday chased me up our deck and into the house, buzzing around my head.
I don't like bees! Maybe they can tell...........

Same issue with bees buzzing around like crazy in central Ohio. Had to remove the hummingbird feeders to reduce the bees on patio and got stung in the process. Ouch!!

[Topspinmo]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

Maybe you’re getting old? :22yikes:

[golfing eagles]

Yes that's it, it's always wise to ignore the obvious. (I'm not gaining weight, my pants must be shrinking)

It's climate change.

It IS obvious——it’s WEATHER, climate change takes thousands of years

[PugMom]

Third summer here. Like the past two summers, when I go outside, it is in the morning before 10 and in the evening after 5. Usually stay inside between 10 and 5 but I have not noticed a substantial difference this year than past years.

In fact, I thought it was cooler in the evening this year than last summer! Perhaps I am getting used to it.

you are getting used to it, as am i. our 1st summer was a challenge, by the 2nd i knew what to expect. this wknd i was @ an outdoor concert in Tampa, (Rob Zombie & Alice Cooper 😜) & the heat didn't bother me nearly as much as in the past.

[Topspinmo]

Thermometers don't lie......:mornincoffee:


Thermometers or heat index?

[Topspinmo]

you are getting used to it, as am i. our 1st summer was a challenge, by the 2nd i knew what to expect. this wknd i was @ an outdoor concert in Tampa, (Rob Zombie & Alice Cooper 😜) & the heat didn't bother me nearly as much as in the past.


Cool gulf breeze maybe? :wave:

[Topspinmo]

Same issue with bees buzzing around like crazy in central Ohio. Had to remove the hummingbird feeders to reduce the bees on patio and got stung in the process. Ouch!!

Be lucky you have bees 🐝. See very few in my area.

[PugMom]

Cool gulf breeze maybe? :wave:


as the evening came, yes, it was very nice

[birdawg]

We’ve been in Florida 26 years this September and it is the
hottest Summer since we’ve been here.been hear ten years this is the hottest

[LuvNH]

Originally Posted by lphallrd View Post
Same issue with bees buzzing around like crazy in central Ohio. Had to remove the hummingbird feeders to reduce the bees on patio and got stung in the process. Ouch!!



Be lucky you have bees 🐝. See very few in my area.

I think she is probably being bothered by hornets. Bees do not bother people, but right now the hornets are looking to hibernate for the winter and they are very aggressive.

[LuvNH]

Here in NH on the seacoast it is sunny, 75 degrees with very low humidity. It was very foggy this morning, but it burned off.

[jimjamuser]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.
You can't REALLY ask for my ( or anyone else's) opinion and then add limiting factors - such as no Global Warming opinions. What you then would be saying is, "I want to hear opinions, but I just want to hear those that agree with me". We have all heard that this recent July was the warmest on record (since they have kept records). And we know that the Gulf and the Atlantic are at RECORD temps. So, what do we expect and we need to explain it.that's what humans do. So, Global Warming explains it, too bad!

[golfing eagles]

You can't REALLY ask for my ( or anyone else's) opinion and then add limiting factors - such as no Global Warming opinions. What you then would be saying is, "I want to hear opinions, but I just want to hear those that agree with me". We have all heard that this recent July was the warmest on record (since they have kept records). And we know that the Gulf and the Atlantic are at RECORD temps. So, what do we expect and we need to explain it.that's what humans do. So, Global Warming explains it, too bad!

Except, it doesn’t

[TomSpasm]

I've lived in West Central Florida since 1984, 12 years here, and the difference this year is the lack of rainfall. We've had more days with no rain than any summer I can remember. The rain is what cools things down, and that just hasn't happened with any regularity...until this week!

[jimjamuser]

The heat is hard for me to handle, as well. I stay indoors most of the time; gathering in the rec center to play cards or crafting. I get nervous during the lightening storms. (I think I read too many articles about homes getting struck and burning down)¹ Now, a hurricane is stirring near the Yucatan. It looks like it is headed to northern Florida. Governor DeSantis has already placed emergency protocol into action. I know most of you say we are safe in the Villages but we are in the storm track window. Crossing my fingers that all will be well.

I have been here for 20• years. August and September are always the worst. Not really sure if this year is worse than others or we believe it is because of the constant heat advisories. I dont remember getting so many heat advisories in past years.
Scientists say that the last 10 years are increasingly hotter and each year in the future for as much as 30 years will be increasingly hotter year after year. Those paying attention know that this July worldwide was the hottest since they have kept records. August may be a record also. Scientists say that the water in the Gulf and in the Atlantic around Florida is at a record also. Last year Florida had 2 large hurricanes (one a near record). Today we have a Cat 3 hurricane coming toward our area. Also, remember that hurricanes spin-off tornados that can do great damage or be deadly.

[jimjamuser]

More media coverage pushing the agenda that’s all..
And myself and others think that the MASSIVE problem of both increasing world population and Global Warming has been UNDER-REPORTED. Lately, the media has started to report the problem somewhat.

[jimjamuser]

22 years in Florida for us and this is no question the hottest, most humid summer. Memory is always rosy but if I'm not mistaken the first few summers we would wake up to typically around 72 degrees. Now waking up to 75 degrees or maybe higher.

Our first impression of summer in central Florida was that it wasn't unbearably hot, just really long, from May through September.
Yes, long compared to "up-north" because Florida is closer to the Equator. Thus more penetrating sun.

[jimjamuser]

Lousy summer in UK. Cool and wet.
Nice Spring, then it all went downhill.
Nothing to do with Climate change or El Nino.
All started with Wimbledon Tennis, and Test Match cricket at same time against Australia.
Summer never stood a chance against those two.
Of course, "nothing to do with climate change".

[jimjamuser]

Third summer here. Like the past two summers, when I go outside, it is in the morning before 10 and in the evening after 5. Usually stay inside between 10 and 5 but I have not noticed a substantial difference this year than past years.

In fact, I thought it was cooler in the evening this year than last summer! Perhaps I am getting used to it.
Some say that they feel warmer this summer. Some say they feel cooler this summer. Feelings are subjective, but scientists measure the temperature around the world and the rise of the ocean. And what does the science say, this July was the HOTTEST on record. Each year will be increasingly HOTTER from now on. And the cause is population increase and an increase in fossil fuel use - causing excess CO2 in the atmosphere and all oceans.

[jimjamuser]

Have some brown patches in my grass. 3-4 are circle shapes. Thought someone had spilled a chemical or put too much weed killer... or even thought of bugs or a disease. My Lawn care co. says it's probably the 115 heat index. Having someone come out to check on it. Ugh.
Now, let me think about this........hhhhhyyyyyymmmmm.....which is more important brown spots appearing on my lawn or the destruction of coral reefs by excess CO2 poisoning? Lawn brown spots or the world's oceans rising? Lawn brown spots or the world's glaciers melting? Lawn brown spots or human mass migration due to the economic effects of climate change. That is a real conundrum !!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

According to NASA, when the Hunga-Tonga Hunga-Ha'apai volcano erupted in 2022, it was the largest explosion since Krakatoa blew its top in 1883. Like Krakatoa, if this was a surface eruption we would be having a record cool summer, due to dust in the upper atmosphere. However, it was an underwater explosion which shot millions of tons of water vapor into the stratosphere. This increased the amount of water vapor in the upper atmosphere by 10% Water vapor is a "greenhouse" gas. Unfortunately NASA says it will take several years for water vapor levels to return to pre-explosion levels.
May be a factor. But the MAIN problem is CO2 (from IC engines) in the upper atmosphere.

[BleuM&M]

May be a factor. But the MAIN problem is CO2 (from IC engines) in the upper atmosphere.

Per the Sciencing educational website: "Water vapor, not carbon dioxide, is the Earth's most critical greenhouse gas. Besides the Sun, water vapor ranks as the second source of Earth's warmth, accounting for about 60 percent of the warming effect. Water vapor captures and holds warmth from the ground and carries that warmth into the atmosphere."

CO2 makes up about .004% of the atmosphere compared to H2O being between 2 - 4%. The Tonga eruption was significant and will cause warmer temps for several years, according to NASA.

[jimjamuser]

Summer came early this year, and Mother Nature has kept her foot on the gas since the first week of June. Usually, we could expect a few days, or a week, of moderate weather with temps in the 80's. So far this summer, the norm has been temps in the 90's, with no real breaks. But...it is summer. It is Florida. It is hot. This is not news.
It becomes "NEWS" when scientists combine all their data sensors from around the world and declare that JULY was the HOTTEST since records were kept. And Antarctic glaciers are melting at a rapid rate and the seas are rising. It's funny how scientists do ALL this work, just to get ignored.........strange!

[jimjamuser]

From a public health perspective, I agree with you. From a political propaganda perspective, enough already
If the 1st sentence is AGREED UPON, then the 2nd sentence would be better erased because it IS CONFUSING!

[JMintzer]

May be a factor. But the MAIN problem is CO2 (from IC engines) in the upper atmosphere.

Yet you completely ignore the other 95+% of the CO2, which is naturally occurring and NOT from ICEs...

Hmmm... I wonder why that is...

[JMintzer]

Per the Sciencing educational website: "Water vapor, not carbon dioxide, is the Earth's most critical greenhouse gas. Besides the Sun, water vapor ranks as the second source of Earth's warmth, accounting for about 60 percent of the warming effect. Water vapor captures and holds warmth from the ground and carries that warmth into the atmosphere."

CO2 makes up about .004% of the atmosphere compared to H2O being between 2 - 4%. The Tonga eruption was significant and will cause warmer temps for several years, according to NASA.

Shhh... Facts only confuse him...

[jimjamuser]

We are snowbirding it here in southwestern NYS. We have had warm weather mid 80's and higher. Heat and humidity is not so bad, but this is the time of year when the BEEs become aggressive and a bit cranky! Flowers have bloomed past their prime and the pollen not in abundance. We may try to sit on our deck in the afternoon with coffee and a snack, and within minutes we are not alone, to the point we give up and go back inside. I tried to do some work in our back yard and I end up being chased out by the bees if I get too close to any kind of a flower. Had one yesterday chased me up our deck and into the house, buzzing around my head.
I don't like bees! Maybe they can tell...........
Interesting problem. Some scientists are worried about bees dying. Maybe a different hair care product should be tried.

[jimjamuser]

Having been here a decade and a half, this is by far the worst summer I have ever experienced. The continuing climate changes must be recognized and dealt with . Just saying forget it does not deal with the horrendous problems we are facing.
Finally, the truth is dawning like a newborn morning.

[Lea N]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

We moved to FL in 96' and it took me about 10 years to get used to the heat and humidity. Over time it's gotten easier. It doesn't feel hotter to me now than it has before. I guess I've gotten to the point where it's easier for me to tolerate the heat than the cold. But when it's cold layers make all the difference.

[jimjamuser]

I have been in Florida for 50 years, l lived in Vero Beach, Orlando and now the The Villages. I enjoy the heat as I can remember playing on a traveling softball team and playing up to 6 games a day in over 90 degree weather.

That's why we are here in Florida to enjoy the heat and avoid cold weather. Get out there and enjoy it!
Different people have different HEAT tolerances. But, I notice that there are fewer people playing Picklesball in the afternoon in the last 2 months. I think that the average TV Lander is seeing afternoon HEAT as a problem.

[jimjamuser]

In NE Pa. we cant get a day without rain and a temp in the 80s. Worst summer ever. Golf courses are always cart path only so if you have a bad knee you miss a lot of playing.
The oceans are warmer, so there is more moisture in the air.

[jimjamuser]

Originally Posted by lphallrd View Post
Same issue with bees buzzing around like crazy in central Ohio. Had to remove the hummingbird feeders to reduce the bees on patio and got stung in the process. Ouch!!





I think she is probably being bothered by hornets. Bees do not bother people, but right now the hornets are looking to hibernate for the winter and they are very aggressive.
That makes sense to me. The only honeybee that I ever heard of as being aggressive is the Africanized honeybee. But, I have NOT heard about them this year. But, I am NOT a bee expert.

[jimjamuser]

Here in NH on the seacoast it is sunny, 75 degrees with very low humidity. It was very foggy this morning, but it burned off.
OH yes, to die for......please don't rub it in.

[jimjamuser]

Except, it doesn’t
OK, that post is ssssooo eloquent on the subject that I will stop believing all the science that I have heard on TV or read online and I promise that I will believe that eloquent post.

[jimjamuser]

Per the Sciencing educational website: "Water vapor, not carbon dioxide, is the Earth's most critical greenhouse gas. Besides the Sun, water vapor ranks as the second source of Earth's warmth, accounting for about 60 percent of the warming effect. Water vapor captures and holds warmth from the ground and carries that warmth into the atmosphere."

CO2 makes up about .004% of the atmosphere compared to H2O being between 2 - 4%. The Tonga eruption was significant and will cause warmer temps for several years, according to NASA.
OK, I promise to read more about the Tonga eruption and water vapor vs. CO2.

[golfing eagles]

OK, that post is ssssooo eloquent on the subject that I will stop believing all the science that I have heard on TV or read online and I promise that I will believe that eloquent post.

Now you’re making sense

[golfing eagles]

If the 1st sentence is AGREED UPON, then the 2nd sentence would be better erased because it IS CONFUSING!

Confusing to the indoctrinated. So I’ll spell it out: The warnings about excessive heat in this SHORT term heat wave of 4-5 WEEKS is a public service for those that are prone to heat stroke. The unending media BS pushing a fictitious agenda is what we’ve had more than enough of. The second sentence stands
When I get back to the US I’ll post a photograph that will blow your whole climate change caused by fossil fuel right out of the water. Hint: one picture is worth 10,000 repeated internal combustion engine posts

[jimjamuser]

"Scientists say". Enough said. That's like saying "my data shows that"... Or "the survey says...". Or "my statistics show"... I'm NOT saying that it's wrong, BUT it's simple to make statements based upon "scientists". Case in point many decisions re COVID, and what "Scientists said", and were flat wrong.

And THIS is why I asked in my Thread post to pleeeaaasssse not go thru the Global Warming/Climate Change - or totally against it.....arguments. It's been so overdone on TOTV, and what changes??? just more yada - by all of us. And changes ZERO minds. I'm done with my yada.
1st....what scientists said about COVID was NOT wrong overall. Some ordinary people took what was said by the CDC EARLY-ON before all the tests and information had come in (developed). Then later as the KNOWLEDGE about the disease increased (matured), the CDC made other statements. Then the anti-science people compared the LATER knowledge with the EARLY knowledge and said, "Ah Ha, the CDC is inconsistent and therefore wrong, so nobody should believe them.
.......Well, science EVOLVES, knowledge does NOT stand still. To use a simple analogy.....think of scientific knowledge as a flowing stream that picks up more rain as it goes - do NOT think of it as a static, fixed in place, LAKE.
........And one point of a community forum IS to change minds.To put down in writing an individual opinion ( like mine) and MAYBE it changes some minds. If enough people read it then SOME minds MIGHT open up to that opinion. And SOME may NOT. It never hurts to try. People talk at church. People talk at bowling. That changes minds. When someone goes to bowling, they don't carry a sign that says, "only talk to me about the things that I have already made up my mind about." So, theoretically ALL human conversation involves SOME changing of minds.

[ThirdOfFive]

And myself and others think that the MASSIVE problem of both increasing world population and Global Warming has been UNDER-REPORTED. Lately, the media has started to report the problem somewhat.
Somewhat?

The incessant brainwashing by media is enough to do Joe Goebbels proud.

[jimjamuser]

Confusing to the indoctrinated. So I’ll spell it out: The warnings about excessive heat in this SHORT term heat wave of 4-5 WEEKS is a public service for those that are prone to heat stroke. The unending media BS pushing a fictitious agenda is what we’ve had more than enough of. The second sentence stands
When I get back to the US I’ll post a photograph that will blow your whole climate change caused by fossil fuel right out of the water. Hint: one picture is worth 10,000 repeated internal combustion engine posts
"Back in the USA" we are waiting with baited breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with homes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions?
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

[golfing eagles]

"Back in the USA" we are up waiting with bated breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with nomes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions.
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010

[Fredster]

"Back in the USA" we are waiting with baited breath. And why are the waters surrounding Florida so record HOT. And the approaching hurricane is becoming stronger. And why did I read a science article that predicted that in 30 years Florida will have a mile or more of its coastline underwater? And WHY are some smart people with nomes there starting to sell. And I wonder with hurricanes happening to Florida each year, what does the Chamber of Commerce for Florida say to deflect those questions.
........And would I advise a friend to move here to Florida anytime soon? Answer.............no way Jose!

Don’t even ask, I’m not parting with one of my NOMES!

[jimjamuser]

Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010
As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

[golfing eagles]

As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

So, in other words, you don’t understand it 😁😂😂

[mrf0151]

Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.

[LuvNH]

Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.

I don't see a lot of people getting all worked up about this, I see one person who gets very worked up about it. So yes, it is hot - very hot, and the summer heat seems to last longer than it used to, but whether or not it is global warming is a matter of personal belief. I'll wait, if I live long enough, to see if the polar ice melts and Florida disappears under water.

[JMintzer]

Different people have different HEAT tolerances. But, I notice that there are fewer people playing Picklesball in the afternoon in the last 2 months. I think that the average TV Lander is seeing afternoon HEAT as a problem.

Oh, I don't know... Maybe because it's SUMMER?

[JMintzer]

The oceans are warmer, so there is more moisture in the air.

The underwater volcano eruption put more moisture in the air...

[phylt]

Coastline moving in a mile in 30 years??? Probably the same moron who told us the polar ice caps would be completely gone by 2010

And that masks & 6' & shots will protect one from you-know-what.

[JMintzer]

"Scientists say". Enough said. That's like saying "my data shows that"... Or "the survey says...". Or "my statistics show"... I'm NOT saying that it's wrong, BUT it's simple to make statements based upon "scientists". Case in point many decisions re COVID, and what "Scientists said", and were flat wrong.

And THIS is why I asked in my Thread post to pleeeaaasssse not go thru the Global Warming/Climate Change - or totally against it.....arguments. It's been so overdone on TOTV, and what changes??? just more yada - by all of us. And changes ZERO minds. I'm done with my yada.

https://media.tenor.com/b6pAfW3PHvcAAAAM/family-feud-survey-says.gif

[Stu from NYC]

As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

I think the calving has gone on for thousands of years.

Nice guy that I am we are organizing a trip to Antarctica next year for a personal inspection and will report back as soon as we finishing a census of the penguins to see if population is increasing.

[JMintzer]

As I understand it the Arctic is a sea that boats are travelling on and oil well platforms are being built. And Antarctica is rapidly losing its ice mass. They call it calving as the large ice masses fall into the sea.

Which has zero effect on the theoretical rising ocean levels...

[jimjamuser]

So, in other words, you don’t understand it 😁😂😂
Well, I am certainly trying hard to understand it.

[jimjamuser]

Have been here also 18 years. I think that as we get older, we can't handle heat like when we were younger. Over the years here I recall HOT, HOT temps in August and September. If this summer is slightly warmer, then maybe next year will be slightly cooler. I just wish the darn media and our government would not keep pounding into our brains all this global warming. They need to stop this and getting us folks all worked up about it.
Yes, this summer is slightly warmer than last summer and (guess what) scientists are saying for, at least, the next 8 years that each year will be slightly warmer than the next. They say that frogs won't jump out of a boiling saucepan just as long as you increase the heat s-l-o-w-l-y. Well, denying Global Warming is much the same. Only it is humans in an EVER-INCREASINGLY hot environment. Humans PRETEND that it isn't happening, but the scientists say, "Yes it IS". And the regular civilians keep pretending and the scientists keep warning - it is like a never-ending cycle. Florida coral reefs are dying because of excess CO2 in the water and the water temperature is so HIGH that it exceeds their liveable range. Around the world, scientists are recording the sea level rise. July was the hottest on record since temperature recording began.
.........It takes about 40 seconds with the Google machine to find out all these environmental facts.
......Some people say, "Ignore science at your own peril".

[jimjamuser]

I don't see a lot of people getting all worked up about this, I see one person who gets very worked up about it. So yes, it is hot - very hot, and the summer heat seems to last longer than it used to, but whether or not it is global warming is a matter of personal belief. I'll wait, if I live long enough, to see if the polar ice melts and Florida disappears under water.
Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

[jimjamuser]

According to NASA, when the Hunga-Tonga Hunga-Ha'apai volcano erupted in 2022, it was the largest explosion since Krakatoa blew its top in 1883. Like Krakatoa, if this was a surface eruption we would be having a record cool summer, due to dust in the upper atmosphere. However, it was an underwater explosion which shot millions of tons of water vapor into the stratosphere. This increased the amount of water vapor in the upper atmosphere by 10% Water vapor is a "greenhouse" gas. Unfortunately NASA says it will take several years for water vapor levels to return to pre-explosion levels.
From NASA Aug 2, 2022 ......Water vapor from the Tonga volcano "would dissipate" "and would NOT exacerbate climate change effects".
..... From Space.com...."Earth's surface will be heating up - though its UNCLEAR by how much."

[Stu from NYC]

Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.

[Vermilion Villager]

Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.
Good reply!!!!:beer3:

[Vermilion Villager]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.
I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.

[Keefelane66]

Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.
Where would the electricity come from to power all of the new homes they are building?

[JMintzer]

Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

When are you buying yours?

[golfing eagles]

I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.

So what? Was it hotter in 1889, or 1643, or 870 BC??? This is a game played in tens of thousands of years, not the last century and a half. I can pretty much guarantee it was hotter 65 million years ago

[golfing eagles]

Not all of Florida will be underwater - just all the buildings within 1 mile of the PRESENT waterline in 30 years. Some of us will live to see that day. Now, one thing might prevent that bad news. If more people would start buying hybrid vehicles and all-electric vehicles.

Let’s see, 30 years from now is 2053, 43 years after all the polar ice melted. Oh, wait, that didn’t happen. So I guess the alarmists need a new dire prediction. So, can we get a preview of the next one when 2053 doesn’t pan out? Or even just an explanation of why we still have polar ice?

[jimjamuser]

I have one friend who has been in TV from almost the beginning and another native Floridian who has lived here for 65 years. Both said this is the hottest they remember. According to the NWS they are correct. Brooksville FL is 35 miles away and has kept records back to 1892 and Tampa to 1890. Both locations have recorded this July is the hottest on record.
I agree. And that shows 2 subjective reports from 2 individuals and 2 temperature measurement reports from 2 different cities. Smart people need to be 1st aware of a problem and next DO something about the problem. When you see the loud IC engine golf cars driving by WITHOUT catalytic converters - just be aware that they are part of the problem. When you see a hybrid car or truck drive by or a quiet E-vehicle - just be aware that the drivers of those vehicles are doing THEIR part to alleviate the problem.
........They also have the advantage that they go to the gas station less and thus save their important TIME.

[jimjamuser]

Where would the electricity come from to power all of the new homes they are building?
Some smart people that are retiring may be looking at the TV reports about the hurricanes here in Florida for the last 2 years - they may choose to forgo Florida in favor of Tn. and the Carolinas. And we are NOT out of hurricane season yet this year.

[jimjamuser]

Let’s see, 30 years from now is 2053, 43 years after all the polar ice melted. Oh, wait, that didn’t happen. So I guess the alarmists need a new dire prediction. So, can we get a preview of the next one when 2053 doesn’t pan out? Or even just an explanation of why we still have polar ice?
From what I have read Antarctica's ice is now decreasing as are the world's glaciers. This JULY was the HOTTEST on record and the predictions are for continuing records set for the next 7 years.

[Two Bills]

I think the calving has gone on for thousands of years.

Nice guy that I am we are organizing a trip to Antarctica next year for a personal inspection and will report back as soon as we finishing a census of the penguins to see if population is increasing.

Satellites reveal catastrophic year for emperor penguins amid climate crisis in Antarctica (photos) | Space (https://www.space.com/sea-ice-loss-kills-emperor-penguin-chicks-satellite-photos)

[jimjamuser]

Satellites reveal catastrophic year for emperor penguins amid climate crisis in Antarctica (photos) | Space (https://www.space.com/sea-ice-loss-kills-emperor-penguin-chicks-satellite-photos)
If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

[golfing eagles]

If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

And Santa Claus is real and fairy princesses kiss a frog and turn him into a prince and they rode off on a unicorn and lived happily ever after

[Tvflguy]

Where would the electricity come from to charge all of these electric vehicles?

Do believe people should buy cars with high mpg though.

I’m the OP. I should not really be amazed at how my initial Thread went in so many different directions. OMG. But re this post, we’re not really Green, but I would say that if an average driver would test an EV, esp the Tesla it’s a different world. The drive is an eye-opener. In a very good way. We will be ordering our new Tesla within a month. Amazing, and actually so many of the nay-sayers are so wrong. IMO.

[Stu from NYC]

I’m the OP. I should not really be amazed at how my initial Thread went in so many different directions. OMG. But re this post, we’re not really Green, but I would say that if an average driver would test an EV, esp the Tesla it’s a different world. The drive is an eye-opener. In a very good way. We will be ordering our new Tesla within a month. Amazing, and actually so many of the nay-sayers are so wrong. IMO.

I have ridden in a Tesla and enjoyed the ride. However if we want to visit our kids we would be charging several times and do not have the patience to sit and wait especially if there is a line.

Talk to me when we can go say 500 miles comfortably on one charge. In the meantime happy to get over 40 mpg in my Camry.

[jimjamuser]

I’m the OP. I should not really be amazed at how my initial Thread went in so many different directions. OMG. But re this post, we’re not really Green, but I would say that if an average driver would test an EV, esp the Tesla it’s a different world. The drive is an eye-opener. In a very good way. We will be ordering our new Tesla within a month. Amazing, and actually so many of the nay-sayers are so wrong. IMO.
Direct Current electrical motors produce a high torque almost instantaneously, so an E-vehicle can go zero to fifty or 60 in just a few seconds. Also, the battery is mounted low and gives the vehicle a low center of gravity. Much lower than a gas engine with tall vertical pistons. A low center of gravity is good for acceleration, stopping, and cornering. So, all E-vehicles will handle well when you get behind the wheel.

[JMintzer]

If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

Melting polar icecaps will have ZERO effect on the ocean's levels...

[JMintzer]

Direct Current electrical motors produce a high torque almost instantaneously, so an E-vehicle can go zero to fifty or 60 in just a few seconds. Also, the battery is mounted low and gives the vehicle a low center of gravity. Much lower than a gas engine with tall vertical pistons. A low center of gravity is good for acceleration, stopping, and cornering. So, all E-vehicles will handle well when you get behind the wheel.

Which has NOTHING to do with the charging challenges...

[bob47]

Melting polar icecaps will have ZERO effect on the ocean's levels...

If the ice is in the ocean like an iceberg, melting has no effect on sea level. If the ice is on land like the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, melting raises the sea level.

[JMintzer]

If the ice is in the ocean like an iceberg, melting has no effect on sea level. If the ice is on land like the Antarctic and Greenland ice sheets, melting raises the sea level.

I was responding to our resident "Climate Alarmist's" comment about the calving ice, which comes from the "ice shelf" which is indeed floating...

[golfing eagles]

From what I have read Antarctica's ice is now decreasing as are the world's glaciers. This JULY was the HOTTEST on record and the predictions are for continuing records set for the next 7 years.

As usual, when devoid of an answer because the facts unravel the fantasy world of imminent climate change, one just repeats the same garbage 10000 x

[Two Bills]

If you read the last paragraph in that article you see that the ice is decreasing rapidly and oceans will rise and further global warming is likely.

Actually if all the sea ice melted, sea level would not rise one inch, but stay the same.

[Kelevision]

Been living in Central Florida for 18 years now. I always felt that I was pretty well acclimated to our summers here.

But this ‘23 season seems to have taken a toll, and generally much more uncomfortable than “normal” late spring and summer. I simply can’t take the humidity and heat as in prior years. Thank god for A/C.

It may be just me and my aging, sensitivity to heat. And/or our Villages summer weather this year is incrementally worse.

Your opinion, and please—- no Climate Change stuff. Enough already on that topic.

I couldn’t agree more. Born here and I honestly can’t take this summer.