villages school system

[billlaur]

Is the villages schools suppoted by county taxes?

[Bill14564]

Is the villages schools suppoted by county taxes?

The Villages Charter Schools are public schools with teacher salary paid from county school tax dollars.

I saw a good Florida Charter School FAQ recently but I don't have the link for it.

[cjrjck]

This is from their website:

The Villages Charter School (VCS) is identified as a "Charter School in the Workplace" and operated as a Florida not-for-profit corporation and federally recognized 501c3 charitable organization.. Established through Florida law, charter schools in the workplace are public charter schools with the ability to target a specific student population. Charter schools are public schools of choice. In our instance, the targeted population is the children of the employees of our sponsoring company, The Villages of Lake-Sumter, Inc., the fastest growing single-site development in the country. Simply stated, our students are drawn from a workplace boundary rather than the typical public school geographic boundary. For the most part, our students reside in the counties of Lake, Marion, and Sumter (separate school districts) and are dropped off at school by their parents as they travel to work. Tax dollars are being supplemented with private commitment and investment.

[ThirdOfFive]

Is the villages schools suppoted by county taxes?
As I understand it, yes.

A couple of months ago I saw something pretty revealing. TV Charter schools serve 38% of the public school students in this school district but use up only 30% of the available revenue. This fact does not sit well with some of the more vociferous critics.

Also, of the total number of villagers as of 2023 (145,000, give or take), 80% of that number, or 116,000, are also residents of Sumter County. Considering that the total population of Sumter County is 144,970, that means that
over 80% of the total population of the County are also Villagers, meaning that The Villages citizens pay the lion's share of property taxes, from which the schools are funded, collected in Sumter County.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

[gatorbill1]

All charter schools are owned by someone and funded by State of Florida. Villages is one of few that survive, most owners drain the money and then close the schools. Saw that happen many times in South Florida.

[Stu from NYC]

As I understand it, yes.

A couple of months ago I saw something pretty revealing. TV Charter schools serve 38% of the public school students in this school district but use up only 30% of the available revenue. This fact does not sit well with some of the more vociferous critics.

Also, of the total number of villagers as of 2023 (145,000, give or take), 80% of that number, or 116,000, are also residents of Sumter County. Considering that the total population of Sumter County is 144,970, that means that
over 80% of the total population of the County are also Villagers, meaning that The Villages citizens pay the lion's share of property taxes, from which the schools are funded, collected in Sumter County.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Push that cost figure to any teacher union and duck. Does not fit their agenda at all. Especially when charter school teachers generally are paid more.

[Goldwingnut]

As I understand it, yes.

A couple of months ago I saw something pretty revealing. TV Charter schools serve 38% of the public school students in this school district but use up only 30% of the available revenue. This fact does not sit well with some of the more vociferous critics.

Also, of the total number of villagers as of 2023 (145,000, give or take), 80% of that number, or 116,000, are also residents of Sumter County. Considering that the total population of Sumter County is 144,970, that means that
over 80% of the total population of the County are also Villagers, meaning that The Villages citizens pay the lion's share of property taxes, from which the schools are funded, collected in Sumter County.

A rising tide lifts all boats.

Careful, you’ll upset the school board’s cry of poverty with facts and their 17% tax increase may be questioned.

[HoosierPa]

The cost to build The Villages Charter Schools was paid for by 3 people. Anyone wanting the best schools in the area should take advantage of it !

Fantastic facilities. A private investment to improve the community.

[Altavia]

Careful, you’ll upset the school board’s cry of poverty with facts and their 17% tax increase may be questioned.

Very confusing when roughly 4,000 new home sales a year are increasing the property tax base over a billion dollars a year.

[Chamo]

All well and good they want to build schools for their profit an opportunity to bring the workers here that’s on them. I should not have to pay for it if I have no kids in school.

[Jayhawk]

All well and good they want to build schools for their profit an opportunity to bring the workers here that’s on them. I should not have to pay for it if I have no kids in school.

Did you ever have kids in school wherever you came from?

[Marathon Man]

All well and good they want to build schools for their profit an opportunity to bring the workers here that’s on them. I should not have to pay for it if I have no kids in school.

Many who did not have children paid when I was in school. Now it is my turn to pay. That's how a community works.

[Normal]

Great schools are ran by great teachers. The buildings are nice, but salaries for teachers come from Federal, State and Local tax polls. In addition, I believe somewhere along the lines the infrastructure in question will have a rent that has to be paid for by the county?

[LuvtheVillages]

All well and good they want to build schools for their profit an opportunity to bring the workers here that’s on them. I should not have to pay for it if I have no kids in school.

A well-educated work force is in everyone's best interest.

I will gladly pay a school tax to help the next generations.

[JSR22]

All well and good they want to build schools for their profit an opportunity to bring the workers here that’s on them. I should not have to pay for it if I have no kids in school.

You should pay school taxes. When you or your children attended school all of the taxpayers n your town paid school taxes.

[PurePeach]

Did you ever have kids in school wherever you came from?

No. My husband and I are child-free, but we paid school taxes until we turned 62, then we were exempt in Cobb County, GA.

[kingofbeer]

Auto-corrected to Are the Villages Schools supported by county taxes?

[kingofbeer]

Charter school teachers are paid less than public school teachers.

How Private, Public, and Charter Schools Pay Teachers (https://blog.completepayroll.com/how-private-public-and-charter-schools-pay-teachers)

[Bogie Shooter]

No. My husband and I are child-free, but we paid school taxes until we turned 62, then we were exempt in Cobb County, GA.

GA. That explains it.

[Bill14564]

Charter school teachers are paid less than public school teachers.

How Private, Public, and Charter Schools Pay Teachers (https://blog.completepayroll.com/how-private-public-and-charter-schools-pay-teachers)

From the article:
Charter schools receive state but not local funding, so they are reliant on grants and donations.

That is not the case in Sumter County and probably all of Florida. Looking at the school budget, a good chunk of local money is transferred to the Villages Charter Schools for instruction.

[cjrjck]

In a community larger than many cities in this state where none of the residences are permitted to have school age children, I do not think it is unfair for residents to have a debate over property taxes in context with public school funding. TV is somewhat unique in this regard because of its size and its restrictions. I am not advocating doing away with property taxes only keeping the lines of communication open. Cleary public officials need to justify any and all taxes given the situation here. As I feel they have to date.

[newgirl]

Sad that the local schools are some of the worst public schools in the country. The Villages can pick and choose who goes there, they don't accept problem or disabled kids like public schools have to ,and parents have to donate so many hours a month volunteering ( meaning most have two parents and are upper middle, not average income for the area). You can not compare the two. If a kid gets in trouble, the charter school can kick them out, I heard same with grades( why they have that 98% rating) a public school must do everything humanly to keep all kids in school.
It is sad kids around here are getting such a poor medication while the county is raking in the cash..

A couple of months ago I saw something pretty revealing. TV Charter schools serve 38% of the public school students in this school district but use up only 30% of the available revenue. This fact does not sit well with some of the more vociferous critics.

Also, of the total number of villagers as of 2023 (145,000, give or take), 80% of that number, or 116,000, are also residents of Sumter County. Considering that the total population of Sumter County is 144,970, that means that
over 80% of the total population of the County are also Villagers, meaning that The Villages citizens pay the lion's share of property taxes, from which the schools are funded, collected in Sumter County.

A rising tide lifts all boats.[/QUOTE]

[Pairadocs]

Little confused on this one.... from what I get from this post, the Villages Charter schools actually have standards, the parent or parents agree to those standards and are open to also being involved, apparently (??) the parents LIKE the idea of a minimum of passing grades... not a bad idea, what good is a class if you don't study the materials involved enough to at least not fail, why even sit there if there are no expectations, and finally the post seems to say that other area kids are not getting their share of medications (legal, or illegal, doesn't say ?) just that they get "poor medication while the county is raking in the cash. No idea how all that works ? Does the county then use the cash for more medications ? Really think some need to do more research on how PUBLIC charter schools work. Very much like impact schools and funding where the federal government has military bases. The increased population of the base, just like a community like the villages that draws a huge number of "extra" workers from laborers to professions, and whose children could have a tremendous impact on the community... because it would have to dig deep to build additional schools to serve all these people... just like they would have to do near military bases if the school district did not get relief.

[ThirdOfFive]

Little confused on this one.... from what I get from this post, the Villages Charter schools actually have standards, the parent or parents agree to those standards and are open to also being involved, apparently (??) the parents LIKE the idea of a minimum of passing grades... not a bad idea, what good is a class if you don't study the materials involved enough to at least not fail, why even sit there if there are no expectations, and finally the post seems to say that other area kids are not getting their share of medications (legal, or illegal, doesn't say ?) just that they get "poor medication while the county is raking in the cash. No idea how all that works ? Does the county then use the cash for more medications ? Really think some need to do more research on how PUBLIC charter schools work. Very much like impact schools and funding where the federal government has military bases. The increased population of the base, just like a community like the villages that draws a huge number of "extra" workers from laborers to professions, and whose children could have a tremendous impact on the community... because it would have to dig deep to build additional schools to serve all these people... just like they would have to do near military bases if the school district did not get relief.
I was somewhat puzzled by this as well. Might the original word have been a misspelling of "education" which was then autocorrected to "medication"?

[Vladimir]

Sad that the local schools are some of the worst public schools in the country. The Villages can pick and choose who goes there, they don't accept problem or disabled kids like public schools have to ,and parents have to donate so many hours a month volunteering ( meaning most have two parents and are upper middle, not average income for the area). You can not compare the two. If a kid gets in trouble, the charter school can kick them out, I heard same with grades( why they have that 98% rating) a public school must do everything humanly to keep all kids in school.
It is sad kids around here are getting such a poor medication while the county is raking in the cash..

A couple of months ago I saw something pretty revealing. TV Charter schools serve 38% of the public school students in this school district but use up only 30% of the available revenue. This fact does not sit well with some of the more vociferous critics.

Also, of the total number of villagers as of 2023 (145,000, give or take), 80% of that number, or 116,000, are also residents of Sumter County. Considering that the total population of Sumter County is 144,970, that means that
over 80% of the total population of the County are also Villagers, meaning that The Villages citizens pay the lion's share of property taxes, from which the schools are funded, collected in Sumter County.

A rising tide lifts all boats.[/QUOTE]

Some of the statements above are not true. TVCS does not choose or pick who goes there...its based on parents who work for TV in some capacity. You would be surprised how many low level performing kids with behavior problems go there and many from low income households (think of landscapers or custodial for example). They don't get kicked out as easily as you may think. These kids get personal extra attention from the educators and support staff to try and help them succeed. I know this first hand since I'm there.