Unit 84/The Enclave

[Randall55]

Lots are now available for Unit 84/The Enclave. A video is available and states that homes built in this unit will be a mix of designer homes and reimagined premier homes. Goldwingnut was correct. Premier homes have returned to the villages The floor plans of some of the new models appear to be the same as those being built in Middleton.

[Altavia]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/what-unit-84-villages-construction-update-128-6-30-23-a-342384/

[Goldwingnut]

Lots are now available for Unit 84/The Enclave. A video is available and states that homes built in this unit will be a mix of designer homes and reimagined premier homes. Goldwingnut was correct. Premier homes have returned to the villages The floor plans of some of the new models appear to be the same as those being built in Middleton.

Don’t tell my wife I was right, her head will explode if I was ever right.

[asianthree]

We were given a heads up before release, as a just in case we wanted to build on larger lot. View lot would be about the same view (not looking at interior) just larger, that we could build 3-4 garage. Some lots aren’t much more than the price in other custom build lots, in different villages.

Premier designs start at $600,000, which is less than what our designer build was. The bond won’t be a deterrent, if you are building on a large view lot for under 100,000, plus house starting at $600,000. Bond probably won’t be even a thought.

What concerns me is I build a 4000sf premier, and next door builds a 2000sf base designer

[Altavia]

We were given a heads up before release, as a just in case we wanted to build on larger lot. View lot would be about the same view (not looking at interior) just larger, that we could build 3-4 garage. Some lots aren’t much more than the price in other custom build lots, in different villages.

Premier designs start at $600,000, which is less than what our designer build was. The bond won’t be a deterrent, if you are building on a large view lot for under 100,000, plus house starting at $600,000. Bond probably won’t be even a thought.

What concerns me is I build a 4000sf premier, and next door builds a 2000sf base designer

There's probably a minimum SF requirement for the larger lots.

[asianthree]

There's probably a minimum SF requirement for the larger lots.

Actually when you pull up Enclave’s lots for sale, it gives you all the Premier models, with plans. Then designer models with plans. There are designer listed with 2000sf.

There isn’t any rules on minimum sf In Enclave. So one can buy the $180,000 view lot and plop down any designer. That has never happened before in a Premier village. But Enclave isn’t a Premier Village, so any designer can be built.

So our thoughts are why would you take a chance of building a premier home, and have a regular designer next door.

[vintageogauge]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.

[Dotneko]

Actually when you pull up Enclave’s lots for sale, it gives you all the Premier models, with plans. Then designer models with plans. There are designer listed with 2000sf.

There isn’t any rules on minimum sf In Enclave. So one can buy the $180,000 view lot and plop down any designer. That has never happened before in a Premier village. But Enclave isn’t a Premier Village, so any designer can be built.

So our thoughts are why would you take a chance of building a premier home, and have a regular designer next door.

Heaven forbid that a lowly designer is allowed to be built next to a premier :rolleyes:
No entitlement there at all.....how to say you're above the hoi polloi without actually saying it.

[Altavia]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.

During design, I was required to increase the sf of our home (maximum bumps) when moving to a larger view lot.

[asianthree]

Heaven forbid that a lowly designer is allowed to be built next to a premier :rolleyes:
No entitlement there at all.....

Not entitled, protected investment, every Premier neighborhood only built premier homes. Around that area designers were built, but not within the Premiers. When you have lived here for as long as we have, and bought 4 homes one knows the track record of where and how you should invest your money. We started with a PV as an investment, then Cottage for investment, then a designer. We just built an expanded Warbler.

Enclave is the first neighborhood that if you choose to build a 5000sf premier, or any designer could be built. It’s a matter of how you want to invest money.

Designers without lots can be $600,000 to a million, they can also be $250,000. Premiers start at $600,000.

[asianthree]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.

It has never happened in a Premier neighborhood, but Enclave isn’t a Premier neighborhood, and it lists every Premier and every Designer model, that you can have built. Plus the $71,000 bond

[Dotneko]

Not entitled, protected investment, every Premier neighborhood only built premier homes. Around that area designers were built, but not within the Premiers. When you have lived here for as long as we have, and bought 4 homes one knows the track record of where and how you should invest your money

Enclave is the first neighborhood that if you choose to build a 5000sf premier, or any designer could be built. It’s a matter of how you want to invest money.

Designers without lots can be $600,000 to a million, they can also be $250,000. Premiers start at $600,000.

Id be more concerned with the double wides lining the entrance....

[JMintzer]

Not entitled, protected investment, every Premier neighborhood only built premier homes. Around that area designers were built, but not within the Premiers. When you have lived here for as long as we have, and bought 4 homes one knows the track record of where and how you should invest your money. We started with a PV as an investment, then Cottage for investment, then a designer. We just built an expanded Warbler.

Enclave is the first neighborhood that if you choose to build a 5000sf premier, or any designer could be built. It’s a matter of how you want to invest money.

Designers without lots can be $600,000 to a million, they can also be $250,000. Premiers start at $600,000.

Wait... I thought they haven't built any "Premier Homes" for years (2017-18, IIRC)...

Where did you build a Premier Warbler?

[Altavia]

Id be more concerned with the double wides lining the entrance....

Troll alert...

[Bogie Shooter]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.

You are right…..premier villages are just that.

[Dotneko]

Troll alert...

Drive up there and look at the places on the right on the other side of the fence....

[asianthree]

Wait... I thought they haven't built any "Premier Homes" for years (2017-18, IIRC)...

Where did you build a Premier Warbler?
You don’t need to yell..(bold letters)

Where did you get the idea I built a premier, if you would have researched, Warbler.

Warbler is a designer, 4/3, all ceilings are 10’, all interior and exterior doors are 8’. Start at 2770sf.

[Randall55]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.Most of the reimagined premier floor plans are being built in Middleton. In that development, homes of any size are on the same street. They also have some premier 2-story homes.

In the Enclave, it appears all homes will be one story. The largest premier homes are the same floor plans the Villages has been building for 20+ years. It is not an exclusive neighborhood. You can find the same homes scattered throughout the Villages and in Middleton.

[Chi-Town]

I doubt that they will build a designer next to a premier, I don't believe that has happened in the past.

La Reynalda.

[gobuck827]

You don’t need to yell..(bold letters)

Where did you get the idea I built a premier, if you would have researched, Warbler.

Warbler is a designer, 4/3, all ceilings are 10’, all interior and exterior doors are 8’. Start at 2770sf.

I did do a little research. The Warbler model is listed as a premier home by the Villages. Also, in the model gallery it shows the Warbler as being 4/2 not 4/3.

As a side note, ALL CAPS is considered yelling in chats/forums. Bold letters is just a way of emphasizing.

[coffeebean]

I did do a little research. The Warbler model is listed as a premier home by the Villages. Also, in the model gallery it shows the Warbler as being 4/2 not 4/3.

As a side note, ALL CAPS is considered yelling in chats/forums. Bold letters is just a way of emphasizing.

Yup.

[Kelevision]

You don’t need to yell..(bold letters)

Where did you get the idea I built a premier, if you would have researched, Warbler.

Warbler is a designer, 4/3, all ceilings are 10’, all interior and exterior doors are 8’. Start at 2770sf.

All caps is yelling. Bold letters is emphasizing.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Cool, fancy ABnB's!!

[SusanStCatherine]

This area is rather secluded. I also wonder if these homes will have better products and workmanship...

[NoMo50]

We have driven the golf cart down to those homesites a couple of times, and they appear to be very nice. But, they are way to heck and gone down there. If you lived in the Enclave, and wanted to play golf at, for example, Mallory Hill...that is a one hour cart ride, each way! Sure, amenities will eventually catch up, but that will take years. Look how long it took for folks in Fenney, Marsh Bend, Monarch Grove, etc to get a simple gas station. No doubt, however...they will sell.

[asianthree]

I did do a little research. The Warbler model is listed as a premier home by the Villages. Also, in the model gallery it shows the Warbler as being 4/2 not 4/3.

As a side note, ALL CAPS is considered yelling in chats/forums. Bold letters is just a way of emphasizing.
I stand corrected. Just went to homefinder, and Warbler is now 4/2 Premier. 2 months ago Warbler was listed as a designer.

When we went to our first design appointment on Labor Day, of 2022 our Warbler was a designer, 4/3. Base dollar for home was just under half mill. We bumped out front bedroom 6’, and rear primary, garage, and lanai 4’.

No wonder I am getting reps wanting to sell this house, Thanks to the developer, our new designer build got bumped to a premier.

Looks like they may build a Warbler in Enclave, will have to see if there is upgrade from our designer now premier.

In past premieres have always had more architectural rooms, that made them stand out, compared to a designer.

[Randall55]

This area is rather secluded. I also wonder if these homes will have better products and workmanship... I am a retired contractor. I looked at the floor plans available for unit 84 that were provided by the Villages.
Nothing is new! The designer homes are the same as those built throughout the Villages. The reimagined premier homes are the same floor plans that are currently being built in Middleton. And, the largest premier homes are the same floorplans the Villages has been using in all of their premier areas with a few updates. The garages and lanais seem to be much larger than the standard ones built throughout the Villages and Middleton. Perhaps, homeowners will have an opportunity to customize the homes in The Enclave.

[asianthree]

I am a retired contractor. I looked at the floor plans available for unit 84 that were provided by the Villages.
Nothing is new! The designer homes are the same as those built throughout the Villages. The reimagined premier homes are the same floor plans that are currently being built in Middleton. And, the largest premier homes are the same floorplans the Villages has been using in all of their premier areas with a few updates. The garages and lanais seem to be much larger than the standard ones built throughout the Villages and Middleton. Perhaps, homeowners will have an opportunity to customize the homes in The Enclave.
Did you look at the size of any of the lots? Some of them are less sf than our lot near LSL

[TorriJ]

Actually when you pull up Enclave’s lots for sale, it gives you all the Premier models, with plans. Then designer models with plans. There are designer listed with 2000sf.

There isn’t any rules on minimum sf In Enclave. So one can buy the $180,000 view lot and plop down any designer. That has never happened before in a Premier village. But Enclave isn’t a Premier Village, so any designer can be built.

So our thoughts are why would you take a chance of building a premier home, and have a regular designer next door.

We built a designer home in Fenney and were required to stretch it to meet the minimum size requirements for the lot. This was fine with us considering we wanted to stretch it anyway. It may have changed since then due to the precast walls but I would be surprised if they changed that rule especially in a Premier Area.

[jump4]

....As a side note, ALL CAPS is considered yelling in chats/forums. Bold letters is just a way of emphasizing.


ALL CAPS IS YELLING. Bold letters is emphasizing. Bold letters in a 2-3X larger font size is yelling. :shrug:

[Dotneko]

A swallow - designer, is exactly the same as a warbler - premier. Same square footage and room layout. 4 bedroom, 2 bath which to me is a very odd setup.

[Fastskiguy]

It has never happened in a Premier neighborhood, but Enclave isn’t a Premier neighborhood, and it lists every Premier and every Designer model, that you can have built. Plus the $71,000 bond

71 thous.....what is the bond really $71K? Damn!

Joe

[thelegges]

Drive up there and look at the places on the right on the other side of the fence....

Just went to look at lots. There is 2 story house one old single wide with a truck and father down a 4 horse trailer. So village property not build able. Private road. Really big live oaks the three I listed. Once landscape grows up u won't see them.

As you enter Enclave mail box on right. Its very Secluded And private... If you travel to Orlando to work or play its ideal.

[thelegges]

A swallow - designer, is exactly the same as a warbler - premier. Same square footage and room layout. 4 bedroom, 2 bath which to me is a very odd setup.

Swallow doesn't have all 10' ceiling s and 8' doors. Our rep told us all 10' with 8' doors is now a Premier. Its a dramatic look when u walk through those 8' doors. The lots we looked at is more expensive corners. If u want to live in Enclave u will drive to most championship. Sawgrass is 20 minutes by cart Brownwood is 46 minutes by cart. But if want peace and quiet it will be the place. Nobody is going to drive out to see u

[thelegges]

ALL CAPS IS YELLING. Bold letters is emphasizing. Bold letters in a 2-3X larger font size is yelling. :shrug:

Totally agree the font was definitely yelling.

[Altavia]

Just went to look at lots. There is 2 story house one old single wide with a truck and father down a 4 horse trailer. So village property not build able. Private road. Really big live oaks the three I listed. Once landscape grows up u won't see them.

As you enter Enclave mail box on right. Its very Secluded And private... If you travel to Orlando to work or play its ideal.

On the other side to the east is Bugg Spring, a US Naval Research Facility for testing sonar.

They will want that area to remain quiet.

Bugg Spring - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugg_Spring)

J.J. Dickison Home at Bugg Spring - Okahumpka, Florida (https://www.exploresouthernhistory.com/buggspring.html)

[thelegges]

On the other side to the east is Bugg Spring, a US Naval Research Facility for testing sonar.

They will want that area to remain quiet.

Bugg Spring - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugg_Spring)

J.J. Dickison Home at Bugg Spring - Okahumpka, Florida (https://www.exploresouthernhistory.com/buggspring.html)
Didn't know that. As you drive into Enclave on the left 4 board fence unpainted. Black always means not TV property. The area is very large too dence to see anything, wonder if that is bugg springs

[Cindysum90]

What a travesty that “regular” designer homes will be next to premiers! Glad I have zero interest in living there as I wouldn’t want to live with people that have that mindset

[thelegges]

What a travesty that “regular” designer homes will be next to premiers! Glad I have zero interest in living there as I wouldn’t want to live with people that have that mindset

If you read all the posts, designers with all 10' ceiling 8' doors are now Premier.
Not all designers maybe 3 models.

Bigger question is if you have no desire to live here, why spend time on posts

[kansasr]

Didn't know that. As you drive into Enclave on the left 4 board fence unpainted. Black always means not TV property. The area is very large too dence to see anything, wonder if that is bugg springs

The Enclave is surrounded on to the north, south and west by the City of Leesburg wetlands property.

[JMintzer]

You don’t need to yell..(bold letters)

Where did you get the idea I built a premier, if you would have researched, Warbler.

Warbler is a designer, 4/3, all ceilings are 10’, all interior and exterior doors are 8’. Start at 2770sf.

Who's yelling? The bold lettering simply highlighted the statement I was responding to...

And I -did- my research. The Warbler model is listed under "Premier Homes", not "Designers"...


Edit to add: I see others have back me up on my "Premier" comment and defended my use of "bold and enlarged typeface" as a common use of emphasis, not yelling...

asianthree: Apology accepted (even though you didn't really apologize...)

[JMintzer]

Totally agree the font was definitely yelling.

And you would be wrong...

Some people change the color (which I find hard to read, especially when they pick yellow or blue against the green background).

But enlarging a passage has always been used for emphasis...

And why on god's green earth would anyone think I was "yelling" by asking a simple question?

[Dotneko]

Swallow doesn't have all 10' ceiling s and 8' doors. Our rep told us all 10' with 8' doors is now a Premier. Its a dramatic look when u walk through those 8' doors. The lots we looked at is more expensive corners. If u want to live in Enclave u will drive to most championship. Sawgrass is 20 minutes by cart Brownwood is 46 minutes by cart. But if want peace and quiet it will be the place. Nobody is going to drive out to see u

So a Swallow -10 is the same as a Warbler lol. Time was they just listed the model with the 10 tacked onto the end. Ivy and Ivy-10 come to mind. As a short person, those 10 foot models make me feel even more short.

[JMintzer]

ALL CAPS IS YELLING. Bold letters is emphasizing. Bold letters in a 2-3X larger font size is yelling. :shrug:

No, it isn't...

According to the Google Machine: "Bold is used to highlight the text and capture the readers' attention. The bold tag is used for strong emphasis."

[asianthree]

Who's yelling? The bold lettering simply highlighted the statement I was responding to...

And I -did- my research. The Warbler model is listed under "Premier Homes", not "Designers"...

As I stated when we built our Warbler it was a designer, with 10’ ceiling and 8’ doors. When Enclave was announced just this week designers with 10’ ceilings were moved into Premier. Since we built our Warbler as a designer, I didn’t look at the premier models, on Enclave’s site. Why would I we built a designer

I didn’t notice my home got free upgrade to Premier. Starting Premiers are $600,000. So if we want to build this house again we would be over a million

[JMintzer]

As I stated when we built our Warbler it was a designer, with 10’ ceiling and 8’ doors. When Enclave was announced just this week designers with 10’ ceilings were moved into Premier. Since we built our Warbler as a designer, I didn’t look at the premier models, on Enclave’s site. Why would I we built a designer

I didn’t notice my home got free upgrade to Premier. Starting Premiers are $600,000. So if we want to build this house again we would be over a million

I read your previous replies after I posted my Warbler screenshot, and after others had posted the same question I had (I even posted that I responded before I saw all the other replies...)

And once again, thanks for the "apology"...

[asianthree]

I read your previous replies after I posted my Warbler screenshot, and after others had posted the same question I had (I even posted that I responded before I saw all the other replies...)

And once again, thanks for the "apology"...

If you wouldn’t have pointed out my designer just was visited by the Premier Fairy, I wouldn’t have even looked at the floor plans.

Now big question for us is, we love this model, if we build again would we spend a “Million Dollars” for the same home. Then again the upgrade for this house will definitely reflect on higher market value. We have had 10 agents contact us in 2 days to sell this house. It’s only 6 months old

[JMintzer]

If you wouldn’t have pointed out my designer just was visited by the Premier Fairy, I wouldn’t have even looked at the floor plans.

Now big question for us is, we love this model, if we build again would we spend a “Million Dollars” for the same home. Then again the upgrade for this house will definitely reflect on higher market value. We have had 10 agents contact us in 2 days to sell this house. It’s only 6 months old

I asked a simple question. To the rest of your post? Nice "humble brag"...

[Pairadocs]

Heaven forbid that a lowly designer is allowed to be built next to a premier :rolleyes:
No entitlement there at all.....how to say you're above the hoi polloi without actually saying it.

LOL... I can scarcely type. I was reading through this thread and got to your comments and it was like you were snatching my exact thoughts right out of my mind ..... eye rolls and all. I suppose if some film or sports star built a 4.5 mill or up mansion in a location with no zoning, and some one built a 4 room on a slab next door, it might be a major issue to the person in the mansion. But here, it's just so amusing I actually laughed out loud as I read your comments, so true. You know, Mr. Swartz used to push that idea, the place where ordinary people can belong to "country clubs" and live like millionaires. I don't know what would happen to us if someone built a lowly ranch next to us... do the still have those "ranches"... what would probably happen if someone built a small ranch next to us, we would have very financially astute new neighbors. Have you ever read The Millionaire Next Door... there are some who consider those who live in the older villages absolute trash. If you read The Millionaire Next Door, those are the people who are likely to be able to "buy and sell" their snooty neighbor ten times over...LOL...people who know how to save and and multiply money..LOL... and no one ever suspects, they look so... "ordinary".

[Randall55]

If you wouldn’t have pointed out my designer just was visited by the Premier Fairy, I wouldn’t have even looked at the floor plans.

Now big question for us is, we love this model, if we build again would we spend a “Million Dollars” for the same home. Then again the upgrade for this house will definitely reflect on higher market value. We have had 10 agents contact us in 2 days to sell this house. It’s only 6 months old
i went to look at the Designer Home Models. The Warbler/IVY/Swallow (same floorplan different names) is listed as a Designer and a Premier Home. The video for the Enclave says the homes being built are going to be a mix of designer homes and premier homes. The owner of the lot has the choice which he wants to build. Only a few designer homes can be built on a large lot. This is the reason some designer homes were placed into the premier category. I am not understanding how your designer home, built in a designer neighborhood, on a designer size lot, is now a premier home. If I wanted to purchase a premier Warbler home, I would expect it to be on a premier size lot.

My wife is a realtor, if you received 10 calls asking if you want to sell your home it is because business is slow at this time. I received 15 postcards in the mail and get a daily call asking if I want to sell my house.

[Fastskiguy]

Does anybody have a copy of the super secret pricing for the different home models that they would be willing to share? $600K for the cheapest premier doesn't sound too bad for this day and age.

Joe

[Dotneko]

Does anybody have a copy of the super secret pricing for the different home models that they would be willing to share? $600K for the cheapest premier doesn't sound too bad for this day and age.

Joe

Dont forget to add the cost of the lot. Some of the interior lots are only 50,000 or less.

[Randall55]

Does anybody have a copy of the super secret pricing for the different home models that they would be willing to share? $600K for the cheapest premier doesn't sound too bad for this day and age.

Joe You can look at the sales price of the homes in Middleton. The identical, reimagined premier homes that will be built in the Enclave have been built and sold there.

[thelegges]

i went to look at the Designer Home Models. The Warbler/IVY/Swallow (same floorplan different names) is listed as a Designer and a Premier Home. The video for the Enclave says the homes being built are going to be a mix of designer homes and premier homes. The owner of the lot has the choice which he wants to build. Only a few designer homes can be built on a large lot. This is the reason some designer homes were placed into the premier category. I am not understanding how your designer home, built in a designer neighborhood, on a designer size lot, is now a premier home. If I wanted to purchase a premier Warbler home, I would expect it to be on a premier size lot.

My wife is a realtor, if you received 10 calls asking if you want to sell your home it is because business is slow at this time. I received 15 postcards in the mail and get a daily call asking if I want to sell my house.

My guess, not the home but where its located. If its Richmond each build lot and spec release had 30 plus names. So far 2 homes have hit the market with closing date after New Year. $150,000 more than original price. One sold in a few days

[margaretmattson]

My guess, not the home but where its located. If its Richmond each build lot and spec release had 30 plus names. So far 2 homes have hit the market with closing date after New Year. $150,000 more than original price. One sold in a few days With 6% sales commission, large property taxes they paid,, and any improvements, it doesn't seem like a large profit.

[thelegges]

With 6% sales commission, large property taxes they paid,, and any improvements, it doesn't seem like a large profit.

It’s 5% some are negotiated for less. Two up for sale are investment long term. No improvement and 30,000 plus in rental, and 150,000 plus from original buy. Not a bad return for little effort in a year

[Randall55]

It’s 5% some are negotiated for less. Two up for sale are investment long term. No improvement and 30,000 plus in rental, and 150,000 plus from original buy. Not a bad return for little effort in a year I thought Richmond homes were built 2-21/2 years ago. So much construction, I am getting confused. Congratulations!

[Two Bills]

I love these "my dog is bigger than your dog" threads.
Nearly as good as the Rolex thread!

[thelegges]

I love these "my dog is bigger than your dog" threads.
Nearly as good as the Rolex thread!

Not sure how a few to multi thousands dollars watch compares to hundreds of thousands for a house anywhere in the US, not just TV.

But on a side note when our Granddaughter graduates med school, I will pass on my stainless Rolex as tradition (can be new or legacy watch) in this family

[Mass288]

What a travesty that “regular” designer homes will be next to premiers! Glad I have zero interest in living there as I wouldn’t want to live with people that have that mindset

What mindset please explain yourself

[thelegges]

I thought Richmond homes were built 2-21/2 years ago. So much construction, I am getting confused. Congratulations!

One year mark in Richmond on some spec homes is September/October. Build lots around November/December 2022. I believe some of the last homes closed sometime in April 2023. Our build was delayed didn’t close until end of February 2023

[Dotneko]

What mindset please explain yourself

Not my post, but I am guessing the mindset that lowly designer homes (which are the next most expensive builds in the model category) are not worthy of being built next to the highfalutin premier homes. Next they will expect reserved parking in the squares and separate lines for restaurants for them. The Villages is not an exclusive place - whatever home you live in. Deal with it.

[Mass288]

Not my post, but I am guessing the mindset that lowly designer homes (which are the next most expensive builds in the model category) are not worthy of being built next to the highfalutin premier homes. Next they will expect reserved parking in the squares and separate lines for restaurants for them. The Villages is not an exclusive place - whatever home you live in. Deal with it.
So does that mean she can't afford either. So dump on the ones that can...maybe pick up checkers or chess so you can focus on something positive...

[Marathon Man]

What a travesty that “regular” designer homes will be next to premiers! Glad I have zero interest in living there as I wouldn’t want to live with people that have that mindset

Such a rude post with no purpose

Yep.