Coming to look at a home today, but no visitor pass.

[Arancampas]

Morning all! We are heading down from Gainesville to look at a house near Spanish Springs on Nell Way in Lady Lake in a few minutes with one of the Villages realtors. I was surprised that they can't offer a visitor pass to check things out while we're there. We have some clients that live in TV but don't want to mix business with pleasure and ask them to put us down for a pass. Are there any other ways to get a pass besides a lifestyle visit that I'm missing? We just wanted to look at some of the facilities beyond the gates today.
Thanks.

[retiredguy123]

You don't need a visitor pass to look at the facilities. Anyone can drive through the gates by just pressing the red button at the gate. You can also enter the rec centers and ask if you can look around. No pass is required to do that. You would need a pass to use the equipment or to participate in the activities.

[Arancampas]

You don't need a visitor pass to look at the facilities. Anyone can drive through the gates by just pressing the red button at the gate. You can also enter the rec centers and ask if you can look around. No pass is required to do that. You would need a pass to use the equipment or to participate in the activities.

Thanks very much. I was just operating under the assumption that because there were gatehouses that were staffed, we wouldn't be able to enter without a pass.

[vintageogauge]

Anyone can enter, just push the red button

[MrFlorida]

No problem just looking, a village ID is required to use the facilities.

[kansasr]

Thanks very much. I was just operating under the assumption that because there were gatehouses that were staffed, we wouldn't be able to enter without a pass.

That's the myth that we are a gated community...we are a community with gates, but anyone can enter.

[rjm1cc]

Thanks very much. I was just operating under the assumption that because there were gatehouses that were staffed, we wouldn't be able to enter without a pass.

In the counties that the roads are paid for by the county anyone can use. Thus the red button.

If the community's pay for the roads they can be private and the community also has to maintain the roads.

I would ask the realtor if any developments have private roads.

[Stu from NYC]

But just remember Hotel California:BigApplause:

[Arancampas]

But just remember Hotel California:BigApplause:

We've spent the last hour trying to escape and we can't get out.

[Altavia]

That's the myth that we are a gated community...we are a community with gates, but anyone can enter.

I would say there is the "illusion" of a gated community rather than a myth. ;-)

[asianthree]

Gates are for one thing only, To slow down the cars, so golf carts have a frogger chance to cross the road.

At no time will a honest mls or VLS tell you we are a gated community that only residents are allowed in

[Papa_lecki]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

Or - be an honest person with a smidge of integrity, who knows that "it's not breaking the law if you don't get caught" is a really bad philosophy upon which to conduct your life.

[JWish]

During the busy winter season they also check IDs at the pools fairly regularly.

[Beepart]

Morning all! We are heading down from Gainesville to look at a house near Spanish Springs on Nell Way in Lady Lake in a few minutes with one of the Villages realtors. I was surprised that they can't offer a visitor pass to check things out while we're there. We have some clients that live in TV but don't want to mix business with pleasure and ask them to put us down for a pass. Are there any other ways to get a pass besides a lifestyle visit that I'm missing? We just wanted to look at some of the facilities beyond the gates today.
Thanks.

Only residents can get guests a guest pass. Anyone can drive through, enjoy the squares and look at homes. Guest passes are for recreational use…pools, golf and activities in recreation centers.

[frayedends]

I was renting in August and our passes were checked when we were at the pool. We had been there for about an hour and then they came by and checked everyone. First time I was at the pool so can't say how often they check.

[augustnotes]

This is a community with gates not a gated community.

[msilagy]

As far as asking to look around any of the beautiful rec centers, just walk in and look around. No need to announce yourself.

[Papa_lecki]

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[MikeN]

[no gate pass is required to enter most areas. Approach the visitor gate and press the red button. The gate will open. We are a community with gates, not a gated community QUOTE=Arancampas;2259130]Morning all! We are heading down from Gainesville to look at a house near Spanish Springs on Nell Way in Lady Lake in a few minutes with one of the Villages realtors. I was surprised that they can't offer a visitor pass to check things out while we're there. We have some clients that live in TV but don't want to mix business with pleasure and ask them to put us down for a pass. Are there any other ways to get a pass besides a lifestyle visit that I'm missing? We just wanted to look at some of the facilities beyond the gates today.
Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[Sandy and Ed]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.
Gee. Glad to hear that. Now why not just post it on YouTube!!!!!!!????………and “tear down that wall, Mr Gorbachev”.

[bowlingal]

Soooo.....how did it go?

[skippy05]

As others have said, no pass needed. You, and even criminals, can simply press the button and drive on in. Sure cameras take a photo of your plate. But if you drive a pickup truck and leave the tailgate down as to hide your plate, problem solved.

[Bill14564]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

In the past month I have had my ID checked at both pools and rec centers.

As others have written, looking around is almost encouraged but using or participating requires an ID.

[Arancampas]

Soooo.....how did it go?

The people are out of their mind for the size and condition of the place! The agent is checking on another for us.

We are mainly looking for something owner financing because we plan to pay it off fast and don't really want the bank hassle. We could easily mortgage our home we live in and just pay in full, but we love the no mortgage, no car payment life.

We did check out the other squares and went to Amerikanos for lunch, so it was a nice day overall.

[Marmaduke]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.
Absolutely not true. I've been check at our pools all summer.

[Papa_lecki]

Absolutely not true. I've been check at our pools all summer.

So if the original poster goes to a pool or rec center to check it out, they will get asked to leave?
They said they are visiting and wanted to see the amenities. Not actually use the amenities.

BTW, I’ve owned for 5 years, and NEVER got asked for an ID at a pool, pickle or tennis court. Nor have my guests (who always have guest IDs).

[jimjamuser]

Morning all! We are heading down from Gainesville to look at a house near Spanish Springs on Nell Way in Lady Lake in a few minutes with one of the Villages realtors. I was surprised that they can't offer a visitor pass to check things out while we're there. We have some clients that live in TV but don't want to mix business with pleasure and ask them to put us down for a pass. Are there any other ways to get a pass besides a lifestyle visit that I'm missing? We just wanted to look at some of the facilities beyond the gates today.
Thanks.
What you REALLY need to look at is the fact that Florida and the world have set all-time records for HEAT in August and the whole summer. I would be looking NORTH for relocation if I were you.

[FredJacobs]

That's the myth that we are a gated community...we are a community with gates, but anyone can enter.

At the outset, the roads through TV were private and a pass was needed. At some point, the roads needed repair and the Developer went to the County to arrange the repairs. He was told that the County does not pay to repair private roads. The "private roads" were donated to the county.

[retiredguy123]

The people are out of their mind for the size and condition of the place! The agent is checking on another for us.

We are mainly looking for something owner financing because we plan to pay it off fast and don't really want the bank hassle. We could easily mortgage our home we live in and just pay in full, but we love the no mortgage, no car payment life.

We did check out the other squares and went to Amerikanos for lunch, so it was a nice day overall.
Owner financing will be difficult to obtain. Most sellers want cash at closing. In my opinion, the new houses are a better deal and less risky than pre-owned houses. You will get an excellent warranty. I would suggest getting a bank mortgage and plan to pay it off when you can.

[asianthree]

The people are out of their mind for the size and condition of the place! The agent is checking on another for us.

We are mainly looking for something owner financing because we plan to pay it off fast and don't really want the bank hassle. We could easily mortgage our home we live in and just pay in full, but we love the no mortgage, no car payment life.

We did check out the other squares and went to Amerikanos for lunch, so it was a nice day overall.

So looks like you are not a fan, and didn’t enjoy your visit, or was your comment about the house size and condition.

Home here sell for more than average market.

We had 2 offers one contingent on 3 months to sell house
The other less money but close with mostly cash in 20 days.

We took the 20 day close.

You might want to reconsider how you buy, most will not do owner financing, plus what if it takes you 6 months plus to sell. Either way will your home pay for something comparable in TV?

[SusanStCatherine]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

My ID is frequently checked as well as my guests last weekend.

You will be allowed to observe but participating may require a pass.

[Arancampas]

What you REALLY need to look at is the fact that Florida and the world have set all-time records for HEAT in August and the whole summer. I would be looking NORTH for relocation if I were you.

We moved away from PA for the heat. We spent a couple years in Phoenix before moving here to FL. Definitely not worried about the temps.

[Arancampas]

So looks like you are not a fan, and didn’t enjoy your visit, or was your comment about the house size and condition.

Home here sell for more than average market.

We had 2 offers one contingent on 3 months to sell house
The other less money but close with mostly cash in 20 days.

We took the 20 day close.

You might want to reconsider how you buy, most will not do owner financing, plus what if it takes you 6 months plus to sell. Either way will your home pay for something comparable in TV?

That comment was just about the place we looked at. We love TV so far. We don't plan on selling our current home any time soon, but if we did mortgage it, we would only do enough to cover the balance after some added cash for a home in TV. Even though they are only an hour apart, if we spent a month at a time down there, we could Airbnb our house here between 250-300 a night and even more at certain times. The agent just messaged us a 2 year old home that may work out perfect.

[OhioBuckeye]

You’re exactly right, the roads in TV are public roads so you’re exactly right, just push the red button!

[retiredguy123]

That comment was just about the place we looked at. We love TV so far. We don't plan on selling our current home any time soon, but if we did mortgage it, we would only do enough to cover the balance after some added cash for a home in TV. Even though they are only an hour apart, if we spent a month at a time down there, we could Airbnb our house here between 250-300 a night and even more at certain times. The agent just messaged us a 2 year old home that may work out perfect.
Check the county website to see how much they paid for it. They are probably asking a lot more than they paid. If so, why buy a 2-year old house when you can buy a new house?

[Topspinmo]

In the counties that the roads are paid for by the county anyone can use. Thus the red button.

If the community's pay for the roads they can be private and the community also has to maintain the roads.

I would ask the realtor if any developments have private roads.


Would that be Marion County?

[Arancampas]

Check the county website to see how much they paid for it. They are probably asking a lot more than they paid. If so, why buy a 2-year old house when you can buy a new house?

The whole bond thing bothers me. I can't wrap my head around paying an extra 20-30k on top of market. Who knows, maybe we'll go with a new build in the end. We aren't under a time crunch or anything, so we're just going with the flow. I really like some of the larger homes that have pools, so maybe we wait another year when we can throw an extra 100k or so down and go that route. Anything could happen.

[retiredguy123]

The whole bond thing bothers me. I can't wrap my head around paying an extra 20-30k on top of market. Who knows, maybe we'll go with a new build in the end. We aren't under a time crunch or anything, so we're just going with the flow. I really like some of the larger homes that have pools, so maybe we wait another year when we can throw an extra 100k or so down and go that route. Anything could happen.
Most of the newer pre-owned houses will have a bond that is almost as high as a new house.

[Topspinmo]

So if the original poster goes to a pool or rec center to check it out, they will get asked to leave?
They said they are visiting and wanted to see the amenities. Not actually use the amenities.

BTW, I’ve owned for 5 years, and NEVER got asked for an ID at a pool, pickle or tennis court. Nor have my guests (who always have guest IDs).

I’ve been here 9 years and got checked lots of times depending on where I went. Agree, some rec center workers are lazy and some are not.

When I got here I first rented by Chula Vista and got checked every time I went in rec center, the pool, or pickleball courts if I was there more than hour. IMO depends on area and center workers.

[Topspinmo]

The whole bond thing bothers me. I can't wrap my head around paying an extra 20-30k on top of market. Who knows, maybe we'll go with a new build in the end. We aren't under a time crunch or anything, so we're just going with the flow. I really like some of the larger homes that have pools, so maybe we wait another year when we can throw an extra 100k or so down and go that route. Anything could happen.

About only way you’ll get out of bond buy older house with bond paid. The newer the house most likely the more the bond?

[ron32162]

Hummm thats the "historic side" of the villages I would suggest Anything on the other side of 441 in Villages would be better

[Rzepecki]

Check the county website to see how much they paid for it. They are probably asking a lot more than they paid. If so, why buy a 2-year old house when you can buy a new house?

Some people, like my husband and I, prefer preowned to new. Improvements have been made and settling has occurred.

[MrFlorida]

Gee. Glad to hear that. Now why not just post it on YouTube!!!!!!!????………and “tear down that wall, Mr Gorbachev”.

Not true, out pool gets checked on every few days, must have a Villages ID.

[Bogie Shooter]

That comment was just about the place we looked at. We love TV so far. We don't plan on selling our current home any time soon, but if we did mortgage it, we would only do enough to cover the balance after some added cash for a home in TV. Even though they are only an hour apart, if we spent a month at a time down there, we could Airbnb our house here between 250-300 a night and even more at certain times. The agent just messaged us a 2 year old home that may work out perfect.

If you read other threads on this topic…..you will find this isn’t very popular/acceptable to many Village residents.

[easeonby]

The Villages is not a gated community, they just try to make it look like it is. Anybody can go in and look around.

[Arancampas]

If you read other threads on this topic…..you will find this isn’t very popular/acceptable to many Village residents.

I'm aware it's not very common. We may just wait another year or so and pay full cash. That's providing the market does soar.

[Bogie Shooter]

I wonder how many more posts will read, “the Villages is not a gated community”?

[defrey12]

During the busy winter season they also check IDs at the pools fairly regularly.

Our pools in Fenney are checked three times a day for IDs. YEAR ROUND. You don’t mess with Rick. Great guy that DOES HIS JOB.

[defrey12]

So if the original poster goes to a pool or rec center to check it out, they will get asked to leave?
They said they are visiting and wanted to see the amenities. Not actually use the amenities.

BTW, I’ve owned for 5 years, and NEVER got asked for an ID at a pool, pickle or tennis court. Nor have my guests (who always have guest IDs).

You don’t live in Fenney. Checking at least three times a day at ALL of our pools. And we like that they do the job WE PAY THEM FOR…yes, that’s our amenities fee at work.

[JMintzer]

What you REALLY need to look at is the fact that Florida and the world have set all-time records for HEAT in August and the whole summer. I would be looking NORTH for relocation if I were you.

They already live in FL... I'm sure they are quite aware of the weather...

BTW, when are you moving NORTH?

[asianthree]

The whole bond thing bothers me. I can't wrap my head around paying an extra 20-30k on top of market. Who knows, maybe we'll go with a new build in the end. We aren't under a time crunch or anything, so we're just going with the flow. I really like some of the larger homes that have pools, so maybe we wait another year when we can throw an extra 100k or so down and go that route. Anything could happen.

Some of the new homes have a $50,000 bond, most expensive bond is in Enclave, that bond is $71,000. To get away from a bond the LSL area will have home with bonds of less than $10,000. But you are also looking at a 10-14 yo house, but most convenient to many amenities

[Altavia]

I'm aware it's not very common. We may just wait another year or so and pay full cash. That's providing the market does soar.

Be aware prices here have typically increased +6% a year. Even more for the most desirable locations. Waiting can cost you more than a bridge loan.

The impact of the bond relative to the cost of the home can be more psychological than financial. It can be passed on to the next buyer. Don't let the trail wag the dog.


Good luck in your search.

[skippy05]

Because new houses are on the south side: no shopping, no restaurants, no gas stations, turn Pike noise, high power transmission lines......no significant land set aside for stores, only more houses. Mostly plastic clad houses with plastic floors, plastic kitchens, plastic baths. Miles of Golf cart paths leading to wilderness. Buyers still wearing rose color glasses not yet having figured it out.

[Nana2Teddy]

During the busy winter season they also check IDs at the pools fairly regularly.
Many rec center family pools check for IDs regularly all year long. We saw it happen often this summer at our local pools. Fenney rec center’s family pool always has someone sitting inside the gate entrance checking everyone’s ID as they enter.

[Nana2Teddy]

As far as asking to look around any of the beautiful rec centers, just walk in and look around. No need to announce yourself.
When we walk in rec centers we are almost always asked “can I help you” by the person manning the front desk.

[Nana2Teddy]

Absolutely not true. I've been check at our pools all summer.
Yep, same here, and we see others being asked too as they enter, but mainly at the family pools.

[Bogie Shooter]

Because new houses are on the south side: no shopping, no restaurants, no gas stations, turn Pike noise, high power transmission lines......no significant land set aside for stores, only more houses. Mostly plastic clad houses with plastic floors, plastic kitchens, plastic baths. Miles of Golf cart paths leading to wilderness. Buyers still wearing rose color glasses not yet having figured it out.

Hey skip, did you buy on the .”south side? Sorry you did? If not why the bashing?

[Marathon Man]

Because new houses are on the south side: no shopping, no restaurants, no gas stations, turn Pike noise, high power transmission lines......no significant land set aside for stores, only more houses. Mostly plastic clad houses with plastic floors, plastic kitchens, plastic baths. Miles of Golf cart paths leading to wilderness. Buyers still wearing rose color glasses not yet having figured it out.

It's just too funny that some people think that they can stop new home sales by typing up a list of false statements.

[MrFlorida]

Our pools , rec. centers , pickleball courts and golf shacks ask for ID . Not sure you would want to be embarrassed by not having ID.

[JMintzer]

Many rec center family pools check for IDs regularly all year long. We saw it happen often this summer at our local pools. Fenney rec center’s family pool always has someone sitting inside the gate entrance checking everyone’s ID as they enter.

Whenever we go to a rec center for an exercise class, or whatnot, the person at the desk scans our IDs... Year round...

[JMintzer]

Because new houses are on the south side: no shopping, no restaurants, no gas stations, turn Pike noise, high power transmission lines......no significant land set aside for stores, only more houses. Mostly plastic clad houses with plastic floors, plastic kitchens, plastic baths. Miles of Golf cart paths leading to wilderness. Buyers still wearing rose color glasses not yet having figured it out.

What houses were YOU looking at? When we we house shopping, there were plenty of Block/Stucco homes with tile floors, granite kitchens and baths...

I'll agree on the power lines (when we bought, Chitty Chatty and Bradford were where the new builds were and that area had a lot of power lines. But since then, there are plenty of villages without them. More to be built on the far side of the turnpike...

There is plenty of land set aside for shopping centers, along with privately owned land waiting to be developed.

They are currently building a shopping center adjacent to Middleton and will have another shopping area in Eastport...

The gas station in the Marsh Bend shopping center is awaiting permitting to open...

[JMintzer]

Our pools , rec. centers , pickleball courts and golf shacks ask for ID . Not sure you would want to be embarrassed by not having ID.

No embarrassment... Just let the person at the desk know you want to take a peek around, that you're looking at buying a home. They'll be happy to assist you...

[Topspinmo]

Our pools , rec. centers , pickleball courts and golf shacks ask for ID . Not sure you would want to be embarrassed by not having ID.


On rare occasions I forget my ID I just give them my ID number. Most will enter that number and my face and information pops up.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

When we walk in rec centers we are almost always asked “can I help you” by the person manning the front desk.

Yes, and if you answer "we're visiting potential homeowners and want to have a look around" they'll either tell you "oh - go ahead!" or they'll give you the tour themselves.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

That comment was just about the place we looked at. We love TV so far. We don't plan on selling our current home any time soon, but if we did mortgage it, we would only do enough to cover the balance after some added cash for a home in TV. Even though they are only an hour apart, if we spent a month at a time down there, we could Airbnb our house here between 250-300 a night and even more at certain times. The agent just messaged us a 2 year old home that may work out perfect.

If you want neighbors who actually welcome you to the neighborhood when you're ready to finally move in, you'll avoid renting your home out for short-term rentals via Airbnb or other "independent" rental method.

You could try the Villages' own Property Management company, which takes a fee for their service and you'd make less per night/week/month. But you'd also know that the place is being properly cared for by a company that has a VERY specific financial interest in ensuring the property is kept up and presentable inside and out, all the time - not just when the neighbor calls you to tell you the handyman you hired to mow the lawn never showed up or the current tenant has their three kids sleeping in tents on the front lawn.

[Pairadocs]

That's the myth that we are a gated community...we are a community with gates, but anyone can enter.

"MYTH" is right, lol, it seems there is no end to the percentage of people who don't quite "get it" that a gated community and a community with gates, are very different. My own cousin was just fooled by this same circumstance in another state, so it's not just Florida, or just the Villages. Always ask ! IF YOU pay a huge premium for streets and roads in addition to the HOA fee, you "probably" have found a private community. I think deep down people know when they can't afford a private community, like my cousin, but... when it sounds like a dream come true, don't ask too many questions, or the bubble might burst ! It's a very nice retirement community with a lot of advantages, but private, gate passes (used to $50 each, and although not even needed, they were mandatory when we built ....LOL !) live people in "gate houses"... smoke and mirrors, it screams safety to seniors.

[MrFlorida]

"MYTH" is right, lol, it seems there is no end to the percentage of people who don't quite "get it" that a gated community and a community with gates, are very different. My own cousin was just fooled by this same circumstance in another state, so it's not just Florida, or just the Villages. Always ask ! IF YOU pay a huge premium for streets and roads in addition to the HOA fee, you "probably" have found a private community. I think deep down people know when they can't afford a private community, like my cousin, but... when it sounds like a dream come true, don't ask too many questions, or the bubble might burst ! It's a very nice retirement community with a lot of advantages, but private, gate passes (used to $50 each, and although not even needed, they were mandatory when we built ....LOL !) live people in "gate houses"... smoke and mirrors, it screams safety to seniors.

The gates are there to slow cars down , so golf cars can safely cross the streets...

[retiredguy123]

The gates are there to slow cars down , so golf cars can safely cross the streets...
Maybe, but this is what The Villages website says about the gates:

"The Villages offers many safety and security services including gated neighborhood entries and The Villages Public Safety “Home Away” house check and community watch program."

[graciegirl]

,,,

[Velvet]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

Yes, why not invite let EVERYONE IN on the pretext that they “looking” for a house. Not that OP is not sincere but boy, can I think of others…

[Velvet]

As far as gates go, the confusion is that they “look” like gates. They are actually traffic signs. If we had red/yellow lights (with cameras) in their place, which may happen if too many gates are driven through accidentally, no one would talk about a “gated community”. Just as traffic lights don’t filter traffic, neither do these gates.

I read where it says “Villages offers many safety and security services” etc… they mean vehicle safety by controlling traffic, when it comes to the gates. They just lumped it in with other services to make it sound more vague. And some people jump to the conclusion, they have gates, it MUST be a gated community.

[Bogie Shooter]

,,,

Ah gracie, go ahead and say what you want…….😀

[Arancampas]

If you want neighbors who actually welcome you to the neighborhood when you're ready to finally move in, you'll avoid renting your home out for short-term rentals via Airbnb or other "independent" rental method.

You could try the Villages' own Property Management company, which takes a fee for their service and you'd make less per night/week/month. But you'd also know that the place is being properly cared for by a company that has a VERY specific financial interest in ensuring the property is kept up and presentable inside and out, all the time - not just when the neighbor calls you to tell you the handyman you hired to mow the lawn never showed up or the current tenant has their three kids sleeping in tents on the front lawn.

Honestly, the home we buy will determine if we rent it out or not. If we get something under 300k, we probably wouldn't. But one we just looked at that's almost 700k, that would be a different story as we wouldn't be willing to spend that much if we couldn't recover a good chunk of the monthly expenses until we actually move full time. We'll have to play it by ear as we go.

[coffeebean]

No one, except, for golf starters, really check the IDs.
Go into the rec centers, into the pools courts, etc.

Please, no!

[retiredguy123]

As far as gates go, the confusion is that they “look” like gates. They are actually traffic signs. If we had red/yellow lights (with cameras) in their place, which may happen if too many gates are driven through accidentally, no one would talk about a “gated community”. Just as traffic lights don’t filter traffic, neither do these gates.

I read where it says “Villages offers many safety and security services” etc… they mean vehicle safety by controlling traffic, when it comes to the gates. They just lumped it in with other services to make it sound more vague. And some people jump to the conclusion, they have gates, it MUST be a gated community.
Personally, I think it is deliberately deceptive to say that The Villages is "safe" because it has "gated neighborhood entries". It clearly implies that The Villages is a gated community. Almost anyone who has never been to The Villages would think that it is a gated community.

[Marathon Man]

gat·ed com·mu·ni·ty
[ɡādid kəˈmyo͞onədē]
NOUN
a residential area with roads that have gates to control the movement of traffic and people into and out of the area.

The Villages meets this definition of a gated community.

[Velvet]

gat·ed com·mu·ni·ty
[ɡādid kəˈmyo͞onədē]
NOUN
a residential area with roads that have gates to control the movement of traffic and people into and out of the area.

The Villages meets this definition of a gated community.

Lol…yes and it has a lot of those railway crossing type gates too…. But have you seen the actual iron gates at Harmeswood Village, by any chance?

[Normal]

Ask questions, talk to neighbors and above all avoid the AirBnB Verbo rental areas.