AED’S in the Villages

[Jrn130]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

[Marathon Man]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Who do you mean by "The Villages"?

[villagetinker]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Of course their concern is about building and selling homes, the installation of AEDs has always been a local village effort, it took around 7 or 8 years for our village to get enough support for our AEDs, and I was glad to commit the $100 for this service, it comes to about $10 tot $15 per year for the expected life of the AEDs.

[JoMar]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

While I'm sure this post was just to stir the pot or show personal short sightedness, I would like to know where the poster lived before where the builder of the development provided that kind of service. Or why you don't think you don't have any personal responsibility toward your family and neighbors and that someone else should do it for you.

[Maker]

You just discovered the real reason everything happens here.
Remember that whenever you wonder why something happens

[Normal]

You just discovered the real reason everything happens here.
Remember that whenever you wonder why something happens

Yes, we are a community that works well when we all work together. Lend a hand as an instructor, throw a few bucks into a collection bucket, or pick up trash when you walk your dog. It’s all of us working together that makes us a happy and healthy community.

[Marathon Man]

You just discovered the real reason everything happens here.
Remember that whenever you wonder why something happens

Well said.

[njbchbum]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

That question is probably best asked of your CDD Supervisors. Perhaps the funding could come from your Maintenance budget?

[Kenswing]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Shouldn’t they also provide you with free medical care? You want big daddy to take care of you why stop at AED’s?

[mtdjed]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

I believe that the Villages does have AEDs in many of their facilities.

You bought a house from the Villages, not a room in a senior care center where everything is provided for you. That is the next step.

[Normal]

Snowbird season is on us. You will have most of your Village residing here soon, if they aren’t here already. What an opportunity to meet everyone and get a drive going. We had ours last fall till spring and just had the last of them installed here. The mounting posts even have solar chargers for the units.

You could do a neighborhood garage sale, volunteer to collect at the postal center, have a donation dinner at the recreational center etc. Good Luck

[JMintzer]

I believe that the Villages does have AEDs in many of their facilities.

I know I've seen them everywhere, in most, if not all of the rec centers, squares, etc...

My village has them disbursed throughout the neighborhood. They were paid for and maintained by the residents and staffed by volunteers in the neighborhood.

I'm trained to use them and when I'm finally a Frog, I'm sign up to be one of the volunteers...

[Pairadocs]

While I'm sure this post was just to stir the pot or show personal short shortsightedness, I would like to know where the poster lived before where the builder of the development provided that kind of service. Or why you don't think you don't have any personal responsibility toward your family and neighbors and that someone else should do it for you.

Your read my thoughts right out of my own mind. Do you think some of these posts are actually jokes, on "us", who sit down with our morning cup of coffee and see what's being said around the villages ? Is the joke on us ? Do you think we will ever get an answer of where the poster lived where that is provided in the HOA fee, or other type of fee ?

[BoatRatKat]

Your read my thoughts right out of my own mind. Do you think some of these posts are actually jokes, on "us", who sit down with our morning cup of coffee and see what's being said around the villages ? Is the joke on us ? Do you think we will ever get an answer of where the poster lived where that is provided in the HOA fee, or other type of fee ?

Yes, that's exactly what I think. I wish people would just ignore these types of posts completely. This used to be a very informative site but anymore it's just filled with silly posts started to stir things up.

[jimdecastro]

While I'm sure this post was just to stir the pot or show personal short sightedness, I would like to know where the poster lived before where the builder of the development provided that kind of service. Or why you don't think you don't have any personal responsibility toward your family and neighbors and that someone else should do it for you.

You stirred the pot pretty good...

[jimdecastro]

I believe that the Villages does have AEDs in many of their facilities.

You bought a house from the Villages, not a room in a senior care center where everything is provided for you. That is the next step.

Every Rec Center and many public buildings have them.

[bruce213]

Sure for about $1000.00 more per home The Villages could install an AED in every home, but that still leaves lots of gaps.

1. While not difficult AEDs/CPR require some training.

2. If your home alone, it's not going to help. The idea behind AED program is to get trained help there as quick as possible. There is a 10% loss for every minute care is delayed.
The fire dept will make it to your home in 4-5 minutes, your neighbors in 2 minutes or less.

3. Even if you have an AED are you going to be calm enough to save a loved ones life.

For the cost on a lunch a year you can save a life.

[Sandy and Ed]

Yes, we are a community that works well when we all work together. Lend a hand as an instructor, throw a few bucks into a collection bucket, or pick up trash when you walk your dog. It’s all of us working together that makes us a happy and healthy community.
Well said!!!

[rsmurano]

Do you want the villages to pay for all your medical too? And if they didn’t, could you say they didn’t care about their people?

Nothing is free even if someone tells you it is. Personally it would have been cheaper if the villages bought all the aed’s and then charged every person a 1 time charge in their ssu bill. But a lot of people would have complained about this too.

[Justputt]

The cost is pretty trivial compared to the life saved. The AEDs are only part of the equation, as there needs to be people that know how to use them. Take a CPR course, get AED training, and maybe save a life.

[Talon2dad]

Go back where you came fro:if all you want to do is complain.

[bobeaston]

A similar article (https://www.**************.com/2023/09/18/daily-suns-story-on-aed-program-prompts-question-from-reader/) appeared in the ************** a few days ago. It appears the motivation behind that article and this thread is concern about who pays.

We all pay in some way or another, some ways obvious and other ways not so obvious. The costs of AED machines in rec centers and Villages public spaces are most likely paid for by all of us in our fees. The AED machines within each village ( 8 of them in my village) are paid for by village residents who believe that quick access to these machines is worthwhile.

Beyond the machines, there are other costs.

All of us also pay for AED service through our taxes. Every county around here responds to 911 cardiac associated calls by dispatching paramedics AND by notifying emergency alert services such as PulsePoint, which sends out calls to volunteer responders, who might be able to get to the victim before the paramedics do. {As mentioned above, for a true ventricular fibrillation event the chance of survival falls by 10% every minute. If your neighbor can start a rescue operation in 2-3 minutes there might be a 70-80% chance of survival. Waiting for the 12 minute average paramedic response time uses up 120% of that chance of survival. Which would you like if you were the victim?}

Lastly, some of our neighbors pay by volunteering their time to learn CPR, learn where to find the nearest AED and how to use them, and by being willing to run and help a neighbor.

Maybe we need a Do Not Respond list for those who feel the costs are not reasonable?

[MrFlorida]

Just call 911, they will bring one to you.

[NoMo50]

"The Villages," aka the Developer, is in the business of building and selling homes, along with providing the opportunities to live the lifestyle we all know and love. Using your misguided "logic," shouldn't the Developer also:

1. Provide everyone with a golf cart? They did, after all, provide the pathways to drive them on.
2. Provide everyone with golf clubs? They did build all of these golf courses.
3. Provide everyone with a bonus $100 per month to shop at the Squares?

I still find it incredible the lengths to which some people will go to find something to complain about. Experience has shown me that folks like that have not been, are not, and never will be happy. They tend to seek personal satisfaction by dragging others into their personal journey circling the drain.

When you see AED units interspersed throughout a neighborhood, that is the result of a Village that has come together with the common goal of looking out for each other. People that have made monetary donations, volunteered their time, participated in training, all in order to enrich the quality and quantity of life in their neighborhood. You won't see me, or anyone I know, complaining about that.

[kcrazorbackfan]

To the OP, crickets are chirping for your answers to questions that legitimate insightful residents asked you; why the zipped lips?

The time will come when you or a loved one or even a visiting friend has a cardiac event - that’s when you’ll realize why there neighborhood AED’s…..

[rockyhyder]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Having an AED in your hood is more about participation than cost. The device has no value in saving a life without a trained operator whom is willing to drop whatever they’re doing at the time to assist a neighbor. The ongoing maintenance assures the unit is working properly and the community remains supportive.

[Dilligas]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.
They already do….in the form of fire and rescue when you call 911. The neighborhood AEDs are there by your neighbors to help you in an emergency until rescue gets there. Even though rescue response is one of the fastest in the nation, you still will need your neighbors assistance with the AED. (even if you don’t contribute)

[Topspinmo]

They are locked, someone has to be available 24-7 who has access to key. Then, has to be ready to get there. In my area emergencies services are available in around 4 mins. A lot of things has to fall in line for resident to get there by 4 mins. Now if I lived in Sumter county and beyond turnpike east area then resident might beat emergencies service due to pass history in Sumter county. Funny how new villager asks question then usual jumps all over them with their superior snide comments.

[Kenswing]

They are locked, someone has to be available 24-7 who has access to key. Then, has to be ready to get there. In my area emergencies services are available in around 4 mins. A lot of things has to fall in line for resident to get there by 4 mins. Now if I lived in Sumter county and beyond turnpike east area then resident might beat emergencies service due to pass history in Sumter county. Funny how new villager asks question then usual jumps all over them with their superior snide comments.
Our village has 19 AED’s with over 100 certified responders. We just had unannounced drills on Friday. Average response time was under 2.5 minutes. The closest fire station to us has a response time no better than six minutes. That’s if they’re not on a call already. Then we get the next closest station. That four minutes that we’re there before the fire department could mean the difference between life and death.

[Normal]

They are locked, someone has to be available 24-7 who has access to key. Then, has to be ready to get there. In my area emergencies services are available in around 4 mins. A lot of things has to fall in line for resident to get there by 4 mins. Now if I lived in Sumter county and beyond turnpike east area then resident might beat emergencies service due to pass history in Sumter county. Funny how new villager asks question then usual jumps all over them with their superior snide comments.

Our drill last month was less than 2 minutes with 7 responders. In addition the boxes are glass covered with 4 digit combination locks just in case? If you go to the class you get the combination. We have AEDs outside every villa entrance and spread out throughout the village at various corners. The machines will talk you through on what to do too. I hope this dispels any concerns you might have.

[Regorp]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Where are the AED's located? Been here a year and have never seen one. In the DeLuna area.

[Bill14564]

Where are the AED's located? Been here a year and have never seen one. In the DeLuna area.

For the neighborhoods, they will only exist if the residents gathered the money to purchase and install them. Some have, many have not.

At the Rec centers they will probably be easily seen but in any case the employees will know.

[Kenswing]

Where are the AED's located? Been here a year and have never seen one. In the DeLuna area.
Drive around your village. If you can’t find one then maybe your village hasn’t had anyone step forward to coordinate the program. If interested contact VPSD. They have a designated person who helps walk you through the process from identifying where AED’s should go. How to complete the funding. Ordering the equipment and training of the volunteer responders.

[Taekwondo]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.
LOOK AROUND YOU ! YOU’RE GETTING A BIG BANG FOR YOUR BUCK. THIS PLACE IS WORTH EVERY PENNY SPENT THE WAY THEY KEEP IT UP. PROUD TO LIVE HERE & paying out for AED’s is definitely no problem for MOST of us.. But than again everyone has a right to their own opinion..

[jtongue]

First of all, there are a lot of AEDs around TV. (image should now be attached) We even have a guy at the Squares that walks around with them during the entertainment every night !

The Pulse Point app will show you where many of them are located, has written details and even pictures of the AEDs.

Anyone that reads this should load Pulse Point AED app to their phone - you never know when you'll be able to save a life. Pulse Point AED works anyway on our Planet !

With Sudden Cardiac Arrest every minute counts !!

[JMintzer]

Where are the AED's located? Been here a year and have never seen one. In the DeLuna area.

They are housed in a white box on a white pole, typically near the street, between two houses...

You may have seen them, but might not have known what they are...

Or, your neighborhood might not have purchased them...

[Papa_lecki]

Where are the AED's located? Been here a year and have never seen one. In the DeLuna area.

In some villages, they are in private homes. In others, they are on short (3 or 4 feet) poles, with a box on the top.
As mentioned, some villages don’t have the program, it’s resident run.

A study was done….
The Villages residents are four times more likely than other Americans to survive a cardiac event.

the AED program is part of it, the proximity of fire department is another.

[Rwirish]

OMG, surely this post is not for real.

[bobeaston]

Just call 911, they will bring one to you.

Often too late to be useful. You lose 10% chance of survival with every minute. The average 12 minute response time for paramedics leaves you dead for 2 minutes by the time they arrive.

[KenLee100]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.
Did your old neighborhood "back home"have a AED on every corner?
Probably not.
The builder builds homes and provides us a wonderful community. They are not a rich uncle who buys us candy every time we go to the corner store. This can be a huge liability exposure for a large corporation.
Your neighbors spent their own money to provide this service. I trust you will never be in need of one.

[MSGirl]

While I'm sure this post was just to stir the pot or show personal short sightedness, I would like to know where the poster lived before where the builder of the development provided that kind of service. Or why you don't think you don't have any personal responsibility toward your family and neighbors and that someone else should do it for you.

Exactly

[Normal]

Get into a newer neighborhood with a younger demographic and the community has a neighborhood Facebook link. It gives you much better odds of having AEDs installed around the neighborhood with much less effort.

[JMintzer]

Get into a newer neighborhood with a younger demographic and the community has a neighborhood Facebook link. It gives you much better odds of having AEDs installed around the neighborhood with much less effort.

What would you consider to be a "newer" neighborhood?

[Pgcacace]

When a player past out on the pb courts a while back, the Rec. Director came running over w an AED. I’m thinking that all the Rec. Ctrs. Have one.

[Bogie Shooter]

Get into a newer neighborhood with a younger demographic and the community has a neighborhood Facebook link. It gives you much better odds of having AEDs installed around the neighborhood with much less effort.

My village (neighborhood) started in 2002…..and we have AED’s,
I have no idea what you last sentence means or what you are trying to say?
For that matter I wonder about the first sentence as well.

[jtongue]

FYI - AED's are for sudden cardiac arrests. You have a few minutes to save a life. Join you Neighbor Saving Neighbor group and most importantly - know where AED's are. The Villages Country Clubs do not have AED's - something that will hopefully get changed soon.

[Normal]

My village (neighborhood) started in 2002…..and we have AED’s,
I have no idea what you last sentence means or what you are trying to say?
For that matter I wonder about the first sentence as well.

New transplants and neighborhood’s are more likely to get on board with the initiative is all I am suggesting. Transplants and veterans moving into a new neighborhood are more likely to want the option for AEDs. Why not, when you have landscaping, garage floor painting, lanai enclosing and solar tube installations going in too? The neighborhood Facebook pages are discussing groups forming and clubs are getting together for the first time. It’s a great time to do it.

If you let time go on, compromise can kick in and the idea can and probably does fade.

[GizmoWhiskers]

FYI - AED's are for sudden cardiac arrests. You have a few minutes to save a life. Join you Neighbor Saving Neighbor group and most importantly - know where AED's are. The Villages Country Clubs do not have AED's - something that will hopefully get changed soon.
All meaness aside when one was put in the DeLuna/Marshbend area it was $75 per home covering 3 years. Not much to pay considering it was reported to homeowners that it is a 14 min response time for emergency response. Thank goodness for people willing to train in the use of such!

[Bogie Shooter]

New transplants and neighborhood’s are more likely to get on board with the initiative is all I am suggesting. Transplants and veterans moving into a new neighborhood are more likely to want the option for AEDs. Why not, when you have landscaping, garage floor painting, lanai enclosing and solar tube installations going in too? The neighborhood Facebook pages are discussing groups forming and clubs are getting together for the first time. It’s a great time to do it.

If you let time go on, compromise can kick in and the idea can and probably does fade.
And yet there are nearly 200 inThe Villages..and counting in all…old and new.

[Bogie Shooter]

FYI - AED's are for sudden cardiac arrests. You have a few minutes to save a life. Join you Neighbor Saving Neighbor group and most importantly - know where AED's are. The Villages Country Clubs do not have AED's - something that will hopefully get changed soon.

Why do you think knowing where AED’s are is important? It’s only important to those trained in their use. If I am having a need I don’t go to the device…..

[Marathon Man]

Why do you think knowing where AED’s are is important? It’s only important to those trained in their use. If I am having a need I don’t go to the device…..

Because someone who is trained in their use might send you to get it while he is giving chest compressions to the patient. There are many ways to help during this type of emergency. Even if it's holding the door open.

[Jrn130]

For all the Money that we pay out to the Villages why are we the ones to Pay for the AED’S?
It seems like they don’t really care about the residents, their only concern is Building and Selling Homes.

Thank you to all that responded.
Almost all of you missed my point!
I am a medical professional. I know the value of the AED’S. I also know the value of all the trained volunteer responders. I have been here for two years and have seen how caring the residents of the villages are.
I only asked why the owners of the villages couldn’t pay for it. That’s it. I’m not opposed to paying it.
Also, the person that commented on all the beauty around us, Yes it is beautiful here there is no argument but you are paying for it in the Bond and Taxes.

[Marathon Man]

Thank you to all that responded.
Almost all of you missed my point!
I am a medical professional. I know the value of the AED’S. I also know the value of all the trained volunteer responders. I have been here for two years and have seen how caring the residents of the villages are.
I only asked why the owners of the villages couldn’t pay for it. That’s it. I’m not opposed to paying it.
Also, the person that commented on all the beauty around us, Yes it is beautiful here there is no argument but you are paying for it in the Bond and Taxes.

Who do you think the "owners of The Villages" are?