Google Still Manipulating Search Results

[Pugchief]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)

Alt-right conspiracy nonsense.

If you have to delve into websites like outkick to find your information, then maybe your agenda needs tweaking.

[manaboutown]

Of course they do. That is a no brainer, apparent to every child in the land.

[jimbomaybe]

Of course they do. That is a no brainer, apparent to every child in the land.
It has been demonstrated through the IA programs, they use a large part of just what is present on the web to synthesize, condense what is there, IA has no critical thinking, garbage in garbage out, If there were a great abundance of the web articles were about how healthy it is to stand on your head in a corner for 15 minutes a day thinking about grasshoppers that would have the herd thinking, believing and expounding how much it has helped them

[kansasr]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)

Tin foil for protecting one's head can be found in aisle 4 at Publix

[Stu from NYC]

It has been demonstrated through the IA programs, they use a large part of just what is present on the web to synthesize, condense what is there, IA has no critical thinking, garbage in garbage out, If there were a great abundance of the web articles were about how healthy it is to stand on your head in a corner for 15 minutes a day thinking about grasshoppers that would have the herd thinking, believing and expounding how much it has helped them

Agreed, way to much consolidation in the news reporting business.

[Whitley]

What amazes me is that even after admitting they do this, some extremists still deny it.

[jimbomaybe]

What amazes me is that even after admitting they do this, some extremists still deny it.
When people hear what they want to hear, want to believe it gets sucked in and digested

[jimbomaybe]

Tin foil for protecting one's head can be found in aisle 4 at Publix
Perhaps viewing a video from 2018 (?) might give you a more balanced ,open minded experience " The Creepy line"

[Stu from NYC]

What amazes me is that even after admitting they do this, some extremists still deny it.

Some people have a certain point of view and irregardless of the facts will continue to hold that view.

[Keefelane66]

If you think Google is bad a News program widely viewed was reporting about the economy with video showing petroleum prices at $7 - $8 a gallon. Using AAA and Gas Buddy were far below.
I have no problem with Google.

[Bill14564]

What amazes me is that even after admitting they do this, some extremists still deny it.

What amazes me is some will look past simple logic to find a conspiracy. Of course Google manipulates the results and we all WANT them to do that. Otherwise, what is returned would be a mess! In various articles Google has tried to explain this but hey, that just gets in the way of the conspiracy.

Google returns the results that match the search terms. Don’t like the results? Use better search terms.

Interesting note: the non-Google, independent search engine that can be trusted returns a very similar set of results. (perhaps google has secretly taken them over!)

[bopat]

It's pretty easy, just ask the internet help desk:

Let Me Google That (https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=does+google+manipulate+search+results)

[Pugchief]

Alt-right conspiracy nonsense.

If you have to delve into websites like outkick to find your information, then maybe your agenda needs tweaking.

You may not like the source, or choose to believe the source, but at least I provided one.

Half the nonsense that is posted here is without attribution.

I have found Outkick to be overall factual, albeit with a centre-right perspective. Still way more credible than CNN.

[Pugchief]

Tin foil for protecting one's head can be found in aisle 4 at Publix

Nice ad hominem attack. Please provide an alternate source to the contrary if you have one. I thought so....

[Pugchief]

If you think Google is bad a News program widely viewed was reporting about the economy with video showing petroleum prices at $7 - $8 a gallon. Using AAA and Gas Buddy were far below.
I have no problem with Google.

I have no idea what this even means. Google is not a "news program", but regardless, the $7 gas was in CA, not FL. Are you unaware that the price of gas varies wildly from state to state?

[Keefelane66]

It was a news station very popular on cable, not Google

[JMintzer]

If you think Google is bad a News program widely viewed was reporting about the economy with video showing petroleum prices at $7 - $8 a gallon. Using AAA and Gas Buddy were far below.
I have no problem with Google.

Gas prices in CA are well over $6/gallon right now. Diesel is about $7.50/gallon...

P.S. I got that info from Google...

[JMintzer]

I have no idea what this even means. Google is not a "news program", but regardless, the $7 gas was in CA, not FL. Are you unaware that the price of gas varies wildly from state to state?

He needed a "comma" after the "bad"...

[Smalley]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)

The search engine duckduckgo is a terrific alternative to Google. Duckduckgo does not retain your searches and does not data-mine your information. The searches are clean. Much better than Google. I've used it for many years.

[Pugchief]

He needed a "comma" after the "bad"...

Ah good catch/translation. The spelling and grammar on this board are atrocious.

[Pugchief]

The search engine duckduckgo is a terrific alternative to Google. Duckduckgo does not retain your searches and does not data-mine your information. The searches are clean. Much better than Google. I've used it for many years.

True, except for the bolded part. That was previously true as well up until the Ukraine war started and DDG joined in with other Big Tech to decide what you should be allowed to read or not.

duckduckgo-down-ranks-russia-misinformation (https://technical.ly/civic-news/duckduckgo-down-rank-russia-misinformation/)

That being said, DDG is still way better that Google for search as it's (at least for now) still private, and has a quality layout including news/social media results/images/etc that are still lacking in engines like Brave that don't filter.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Agreed, way to much consolidation in the news reporting business.

Try changing your search criteria. Your results will be based on a) your search criteria, b) your previous searches to determine what you are actually interested in, c) most recent search results from around the web, d) most popular result (meaning what people have actually clicked on, not merely the list that they read), and various and sundry other criteria.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

You may not like the source, or choose to believe the source, but at least I provided one.

Half the nonsense that is posted here is without attribution.

I have found Outkick to be overall factual, albeit with a centre-right perspective. Still way more credible than CNN.

My source is the Google source code; the parts that are open source, for my own perusal, and a friend who works for Google for the rest. Unless you've read it or know someone personally who actually works with it, you'll know only what your selection of search results will tell you.

Much of the Google source code is open source. Some is proprietary.

[Blackbird45]

Companies do what is financially in their best interest.
As far as conspiracy theories, there are facts and falsehoods.
People will believe what they have predetermine to be the truth.
If something does not conform to what they already believe it is a conspiracy.

[Susan1717]

Try typing in Newsmax first to get any of their articles. They are all I watch now and I feel tell more of a whole story instead of leaving out impirtants facts.

[Cobullymom]

What amazes me is that even after admitting they do this, some extremists still deny it.

Yup, their classic response, follow the leader. Self thought is long gone. That's why it's working for them...

[Cobullymom]

My source is the Google source code; the parts that are open source, for my own perusal, and a friend who works for Google for the rest. Unless you've read it or know someone personally who actually works with it, you'll know only what your selection of search results will tell you.

Much of the Google source code is open source. Some is proprietary.

Do you dial up the friend first first? Open source? Open to what they haven't blocked..

[thevillager1988]

Brave browser and Duck Duck Go search engine are the way to go ...

[huge-pigeons]

Even a 5 year old know that these companies do this. You do know that people wrote the code to do your searches, determine what type of ads are displayed on your screen, and how to manipulate the searched data.
I worked at a web based company that looked at each of your initial packets of data when you go out to certain websites (financial, online sales) and modified a part of your data to tell the website you were going to if you were a bad person or a good person. (This is very high level. This technology that can dynamically identify new fraud patterns as they emerge). It would be very easy for a developer to place a flag on your data saying you had a certain affiliation based on your prior searches, or you have been flagged by another website that you were a bad person/fraud.
Don’t be naive! This happens all the time. Beware of your page content and you will know what I mean.

[skarra]

Political post disguised as something about technology. Fake post LOL

[GizmoWhiskers]

Alt-right conspiracy nonsense.

If you have to delve into websites like outkick to find your information, then maybe your agenda needs tweaking.
I wonder what the view of The Villages looks like when seen from under a rock?

[nn0wheremann]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)
Caveat Emptor. You dislike Google, or X, use another service, there are several fro which to choose.

[Bill14564]

I wonder what the view of The Villages looks like when seen from under a rock?

I have often wondered what color the sky was in the tinfoil hat world.

[DonH57]

Tin foil for protecting one's head can be found in aisle 4 at Publix

Keep alert for the BOGO's on them!:pepper2:

[jimjamuser]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)
Here is MY what-about-ism..........we ALL know that the GREATEST framer of our viewpoint (propagandist) is none other than Foxy Loxie.

[jimjamuser]

It has been demonstrated through the IA programs, they use a large part of just what is present on the web to synthesize, condense what is there, IA has no critical thinking, garbage in garbage out, If there were a great abundance of the web articles were about how healthy it is to stand on your head in a corner for 15 minutes a day thinking about grasshoppers that would have the herd thinking, believing and expounding how much it has helped them
I personally, LOVE to relax my mind by thinking about grasshoppers - Ah, grasshoppers flying in a golden field of milo in Nebraska, as I concentrate my focus on my dogs working to kick up those "waskelly" pheasants.
..........PS.....Don't you mean A.I. standing for artificial intelligence? Not IA standing for........????? idiots in an audience ???????

[Bay Kid]

Getting tired of the same old ads. Google Victoria's Secrets and for the next several days google will show ladies lingerie.

[jimjamuser]

Tin foil for protecting one's head can be found in aisle 4 at Publix
BEAUTIFULLY DONE. That gave me the heartiest LAUGH I have ever had on TOTV - and there has been a LOT of material to laugh at before!

[JRcorvette]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)

Google is the worst offender but other search engines like Yahoo do the same. You could switch to a different browser such as Brave or Mozilla and also use Duck Duck Go.

I believe that Google needs to be broken up like they did to AT&T years ago. :Screen_of_Death:

[jimjamuser]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)
I hear that Elon Musk has lost control over Twitter AKA- - - X (now there IS an imaginative name). Bet he would like to sell it.

[Bridget Staunton]

CNN total garbage, waste of my time

[ThirdOfFive]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)
Frustrating? Yes. But criminal? Hardly. There really hasn't been a time in our history when information presented to Joe Public, at least to a certain extent, HASN'T been sifted or cherry-picked by media to present a certain face. Search "yellow journalism" for just one example of such activity going back to the late 19th century. But that is just one example among many others, and the yellow journalists of that time faced plenty of opposition from news sources printing opposing views.

The issue here however is not so much that a Google search is apt to yield results heavily skewed in a certain direction (that has been known for quite some time) but that a monopoly on disseminated information means that it has become progressively harder and harder to find information on the internet that might contradict the stuff most readily available in a Google search. This seems to be the case most often when it relates to "social" issues. Try searching Google for any information that contradicts the accepted line du jour on just about any social issue and this will become obvious. The problem is that, when you're the only game in town, you can pretty successfully slam the door on any info. that you might not want Joe Public to see.

Google of course is not the "only game in town" when it comes to the availability of information on the internet. But it is far and away the largest. In 2018 Google handled no less than 90.8% of all internet searches (Jeff Desjardins, "This Chart Reveals Google’s True Dominance Over the Web", visualcapitalist dot com, April 20, 2018) and I doubt that that dominance has shrunk in the past five years. Additionally, Google owns and controls the content of Youtube, "the second biggest social media in the world, with over 2.7 billion active users" (demandsage dot com, February 2023 statistics). Finally, Google and FaceBook, the LARGEST social media platform on theplanet, which though ostensibly independent of one another, have formed a "partnership": ("Facebook and Google announced that they will be partnering to bring Facebook's retargeting platform, Facebook Exchange, to Google's Doubleclick." (bigfootprintdigital dot com, Oct. 25, 2022). All this means that Google, through its search engine and control over YouTube alone, controls what is available to nearly 3 BILLION people worldwide and if one adds in its influence over FaceBook, their dominance is huge--AND scary--AND undeniable.

I have begun collecting print books relating to issues, primarily social, that offer more complete pictures of those issues than what is available online. These will go to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren when that time comes. But even this, due to the surging popularity of e-books, is becoming harder and harder to accomplish. And how long will it take for even these books to be deemed "undesirable" and worthy of censure/destruction?

I don't know. Time will tell, I guess, and there seems to be less and less of that all the time.

[kansasr]

BEAUTIFULLY DONE. That gave me the heartiest LAUGH I have ever had on TOTV - and there has been a LOT of material to laugh at before!

Thank you. Glad some people on here appreciate humor and don't take everything like the world is ending.

[montysl]

People really only need to use their eyes, ears and brains to observe the manipulation. Watch any Congressional hearing and/or session on any source. Now granted, one must be willing to do this WITHOUT your own agenda, but, if you do, THEN pose a question to Google using ANY phrasing, ANY word combination of your choice regarding what you have just seen with your own two eyes and heard with your own two ears and determine for yourself the bias level that exists. Then do the same on several other search engines and check the results! It’s a simple experiment but the differences will likely amaze you! I understand that those that desperately want a certain result will use whatever means necessary to justify the obvious bias but that can’t be helped. TRUTH will out.

[phylt]

The amount of control these tech companies have over framing your viewpoint is criminal.

google-is-again-trying-to-interfere- (https://www.outkick.com/google-is-again-trying-to-interfere-in-the-election-to-help-joe-biden-bobby-burack/)
Try DuckDuckGo. I get much better search results, far less censored.

[Topspinmo]

Google in business to make money with information they gather. Same with FB, Wikipedia, and dozens more. If it’s free they are selling your information to other businesses. Do google search on product and you will get adds from other companies almost instantly. Don’t become billionaire’s by offering free service. Nothing free, they underlining profit.

[jimjamuser]

Ah good catch/translation. The spelling and grammar on this board are atrocious.
So are many of the ideas and concepts.

[jimjamuser]

Companies do what is financially in their best interest.
As far as conspiracy theories, there are facts and falsehoods.
People will believe what they have predetermine to be the truth.
If something does not conform to what they already believe it is a conspiracy.
True that MOST people have closed minds about many or most subjects, but that's not everyone. Some people do NOT fall into 2 major groups of thought and they are capable of changing their minds after researching a subject. In other words, all opinions are NOT fixed in STONE.

[roadrnnr]

I was going along with that post (to be fair) up until the last sentence about CNN NOT being credible. Sorry amigo, but CNN is more credible than Foxie Loxie or all the Russian-initiated so-called NEWS? on those STRANGE far-right channels or wherever they are located.

And Herein lies the problem when half the population believes Main Stream media is credible and Fall for all the Propaganda.

[Stu from NYC]

And Herein lies the problem when half the population believes Main Stream media is credible and Fall for all the Propaganda.

Very true, objectivity by the media is long gone. Reporters think we really want their point of view. Opinions belong on editorial page nowhere else.

[jimjamuser]

Google is the worst offender but other search engines like Yahoo do the same. You could switch to a different browser such as Brave or Mozilla and also use Duck Duck Go.

I believe that Google needs to be broken up like they did to AT&T years ago. :Screen_of_Death:
If the tax tables were more progressive like in the 1950s we would have no need to break up big corporations or wealthy individuals. Taxes would have done that automatically, but the super-rich weaseled their way into the Federal government and changed the tax tables to favor the rich in about 2000 and around 2010. And now the US is racing toward a Dictatorship of the rich with no middle class.

[jimjamuser]

CNN total garbage, waste of my time
Those who say CNN is garbage must prefer to watch propaganda.

[jimbomaybe]

I personally, LOVE to relax my mind by thinking about grasshoppers - Ah, grasshoppers flying in a golden field of milo in Nebraska, as I concentrate my focus on my dogs working to kick up those "waskelly" pheasants.
..........PS.....Don't you mean A.I. standing for artificial intelligence? Not IA standing for........????? idiots in an audience ???????
I am corrected AI it is

[ThirdOfFive]

Very true, objectivity by the media is long gone. Reporters think we really want their point of view. Opinions belong on editorial page nowhere else.
Very true. The problem is that today most of the sources are so good at slanting their articles a certain way, by presenting what they present in a certain way, that our opinions are swayed without even being conscious of the fact.

It doesn't have to be written (or spoken) words. Most print articles appearing online these days have a picture next to the headline. Ever wonder why so many of them have the subject of the article pictured in a very unfavorable manner? A headline slanted a certain way accompanied by an unflattering picture next to that headline can solidify the opinion of the reader of the article a certain way before Word One of the article is ever even read. Happens all the time.

Another example: say two articles present precisely the same information, nearly word-for-word. Say that the article concerns a retiring public figure. The first article refers to the subject as a "venerable statesman" while the second might refer to the subject as an "aging politician. Don't know about the rest of you, but to me, "venerable statesman" conjures up the mental of image of, say, Sir Winston Churchill. Aging politician? Teddy Kennedy.

There are many other ways our opinions are swayed. These are two of the most obvious. But don't doubt that swaying one way or the other for a minute. And it is happening to all of us.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Try typing in Newsmax first to get any of their articles. They are all I watch now and I feel tell more of a whole story instead of leaving out impirtants facts.

Wow, so google gives you the articles you ask for, without manipulating the results to give you some spin on your request?

How is that even possible, if google manipulates the results?

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Getting tired of the same old ads. Google Victoria's Secrets and for the next several days google will show ladies lingerie.

And that explains exactly what is happening when you do a google search.

On the other hand, you COULD use an ad blocker, and just not see those ads unless "victoria secret ads" are what you're looking for.

In addition - don't be surprised if, within the next week or two, you start seeing ads right here on Talk of the Villages from lingerie companies.

Why? Because those words exist within recent posts. That's how Adsense works. You should look that up, if you don't know what it is.

[jimjamuser]

Frustrating? Yes. But criminal? Hardly. There really hasn't been a time in our history when information presented to Joe Public, at least to a certain extent, HASN'T been sifted or cherry-picked by media to present a certain face. Search "yellow journalism" for just one example of such activity going back to the late 19th century. But that is just one example among many others, and the yellow journalists of that time faced plenty of opposition from news sources printing opposing views.

The issue here however is not so much that a Google search is apt to yield results heavily skewed in a certain direction (that has been known for quite some time) but that a monopoly on disseminated information means that it has become progressively harder and harder to find information on the internet that might contradict the stuff most readily available in a Google search. This seems to be the case most often when it relates to "social" issues. Try searching Google for any information that contradicts the accepted line du jour on just about any social issue and this will become obvious. The problem is that, when you're the only game in town, you can pretty successfully slam the door on any info. that you might not want Joe Public to see.

Google of course is not the "only game in town" when it comes to the availability of information on the internet. But it is far and away the largest. In 2018 Google handled no less than 90.8% of all internet searches (Jeff Desjardins, "This Chart Reveals Google’s True Dominance Over the Web", visualcapitalist dot com, April 20, 2018) and I doubt that that dominance has shrunk in the past five years. Additionally, Google owns and controls the content of Youtube, "the second biggest social media in the world, with over 2.7 billion active users" (demandsage dot com, February 2023 statistics). Finally, Google and FaceBook, the LARGEST social media platform on theplanet, which though ostensibly independent of one another, have formed a "partnership": ("Facebook and Google announced that they will be partnering to bring Facebook's retargeting platform, Facebook Exchange, to Google's Doubleclick." (bigfootprintdigital dot com, Oct. 25, 2022). All this means that Google, through its search engine and control over YouTube alone, controls what is available to nearly 3 BILLION people worldwide and if one adds in its influence over FaceBook, their dominance is huge--AND scary--AND undeniable.

I have begun collecting print books relating to issues, primarily social, that offer more complete pictures of those issues than what is available online. These will go to my grandchildren and great-grandchildren when that time comes. But even this, due to the surging popularity of e-books, is becoming harder and harder to accomplish. And how long will it take for even these books to be deemed "undesirable" and worthy of censure/destruction?

I don't know. Time will tell, I guess, and there seems to be less and less of that all the time.
"censure/destruction" will depend on what happens Nov. 2024.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Google in business to make money with information they gather. Same with FB, Wikipedia, and dozens more. If it’s free they are selling your information to other businesses. Do google search on product and you will get adds from other companies almost instantly. Don’t become billionaire’s by offering free service. Nothing free, they underlining profit.

I don't get ads from anyone on google search, UNLESS I click the "shopping" category. When I do that, it's because I'm actively seeking ads.

If I type in "florida long-neck turtle" I don't get ads for TMNT toys. I get links to Wikipedia, various agriculture and animal websites, some links to pest control websites, and an option to see thousands of images of florida long-neck turtles.

[jimjamuser]

People really only need to use their eyes, ears and brains to observe the manipulation. Watch any Congressional hearing and/or session on any source. Now granted, one must be willing to do this WITHOUT your own agenda, but, if you do, THEN pose a question to Google using ANY phrasing, ANY word combination of your choice regarding what you have just seen with your own two eyes and heard with your own two ears and determine for yourself the bias level that exists. Then do the same on several other search engines and check the results! It’s a simple experiment but the differences will likely amaze you! I understand that those that desperately want a certain result will use whatever means necessary to justify the obvious bias but that can’t be helped. TRUTH will out.
That would be a lot of work for a very small knowledge reward. Maybe if I got paid to do something like that?

[jimjamuser]

And Herein lies the problem when half the population believes Main Stream media is credible and Fall for all the Propaganda.
Nice BLUE car!

[jimjamuser]

I am corrected AI it is
Thank you. Now I know that my life has not been wasted.

[Sandy and Ed]

I too don’t like the search results I get from Google. Always seems to put me in a marketplace. Maybe I have my browser set up wrong. All I know is that BING gives me the results I want. Different strokes…….. works for me

[jimjamuser]

I don't get ads from anyone on google search, UNLESS I click the "shopping" category. When I do that, it's because I'm actively seeking ads.

If I type in "florida long-neck turtle" I don't get ads for TMNT toys. I get links to Wikipedia, various agriculture and animal websites, some links to pest control websites, and an option to see thousands of images of florida long-neck turtles.
Oh, watching those long-necked turtles is about as relaxing as watching grasshoppers fly around a milo field. Decipher that one for an ADDITIONAL 10 bonus shopping points!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I too don’t like the search results I get from Google. Always seems to put me in a marketplace. Maybe I have my browser set up wrong. All I know is that BING gives me the results I want. Different strokes…….. works for me

Yes, you've set your default to the wrong thing. Either that or you're using google to search for products that are commonly sold, more than they're discussed. Google will return the "most likely" results based on what other people use that phrase for, and what you have used it for in the past, and what you USUALLY use google for (the default).

So for example:

If your last year was 80% looking up things you wanted to buy from Walmart - then the next time you type in "kitchen table" you are likely to find ads for kitchen tables - with Walmart somewhere at the top of the list, including some "sponsored" options.

If your last year was 80% looking up woodworking crafts and places to buy wood stains and brushes, then the next time you type in "kitchen table" you are likely to find instructional resources for crafting kitchen tables, including stores like Michaels and Lowes as resources to buy raw materials from.

If you last year was 80% looking up "politics involving the Brazilian rain forests" then your next "kitchen table" result might very well be some political stories about how the Brazilian rain forest is being decimated by people who want to make kitchen tables with exotic materials.

[ChezD]

My source is the Google source code; the parts that are open source, for my own perusal, and a friend who works for Google for the rest. Unless you've read it or know someone personally who actually works with it, you'll know only what your selection of search results will tell you.

Much of the Google source code is open source. Some is proprietary.

Soooo, now I understand why you have a “researched” opinion about every single thing on this site. ..

[Marine1974]

Of course they do . 6 companies control 90 % of our media and they definitely have an agenda. But that said who owns the website you posted ? Please let us know .

[PugMom]

The search engine duckduckgo is a terrific alternative to Google. Duckduckgo does not retain your searches and does not data-mine your information. The searches are clean. Much better than Google. I've used it for many years.

dittos here. i like it 👍

[jimjamuser]

Yes, you've set your default to the wrong thing. Either that or you're using google to search for products that are commonly sold, more than they're discussed. Google will return the "most likely" results based on what other people use that phrase for, and what you have used it for in the past, and what you USUALLY use google for (the default).

So for example:

If your last year was 80% looking up things you wanted to buy from Walmart - then the next time you type in "kitchen table" you are likely to find ads for kitchen tables - with Walmart somewhere at the top of the list, including some "sponsored" options.

If your last year was 80% looking up woodworking crafts and places to buy wood stains and brushes, then the next time you type in "kitchen table" you are likely to find instructional resources for crafting kitchen tables, including stores like Michaels and Lowes as resources to buy raw materials from.

If you last year was 80% looking up "politics involving the Brazilian rain forests" then your next "kitchen table" result might very well be some political stories about how the Brazilian rain forest is being decimated by people who want to make kitchen tables with exotic materials.
that was a very educational post.

[JMintzer]

I hear that Elon Musk has lost control over Twitter AKA- - - X (now there IS an imaginative name). Bet he would like to sell it.

Care to back up that nonsense?

[JMintzer]

Thank you. Glad some people on here appreciate humor and don't take everything like the world is ending.

Unfortunately, the person you quoted isn't one of them...

[JMintzer]

So are many of the ideas and concepts.

So true... Do I detect some self awareness?

[JMintzer]

True that MOST people have closed minds about many or most subjects, but that's not everyone. Some people do NOT fall into 2 major groups of thought and they are capable of changing their minds after researching a subject. In other words, all opinions are NOT fixed in STONE.

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[jimbomaybe]

Thank you. Now I know that my life has not been wasted.
You have joined a very large club

[JMintzer]

If the tax tables were more progressive like in the 1950s we would have no need to break up big corporations or wealthy individuals. Taxes would have done that automatically, but the super-rich weaseled their way into the Federal government and changed the tax tables to favor the rich in about 2000 and around 2010. And now the US is racing toward a Dictatorship of the rich with no middle class.

The rich paid less taxes in the 50's than they do today. I've shown you this, time and time again (via data from the IRS), yet you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again...

[Stu from NYC]

The rich paid less taxes in the 50's than they do today. I've shown you this, time and time again (via data from the IRS), yet you keep repeating the same nonsense over and over again...

Have you hurt his feelings telling him he is wrong again?

[JMintzer]

Have you hurt his feelings telling him he is wrong again?

Who knows... He most likely has me on ignore, but I refuse to let his nonsense "information" go unchecked... At least others will know the truth...

[Stu from NYC]

Who knows... He most likely has me on ignore, but I refuse to let his nonsense "information" go unchecked... At least others will know the truth...

Guess he will not tell the world why he does not own an EV or say what he actually does drive.

[Topspinmo]

I don't get ads from anyone on google search, UNLESS I click the "shopping" category. When I do that, it's because I'm actively seeking ads.

If I type in "florida long-neck turtle" I don't get ads for TMNT toys. I get links to Wikipedia, various agriculture and animal websites, some links to pest control websites, and an option to see thousands of images of florida long-neck turtles.


Don’t matter they still have your information. Just because you don’t get it don’t mean anything.

[Pugchief]

I hear that Elon Musk has lost control over Twitter AKA- - - X (now there IS an imaginative name). Bet he would like to sell it.

That's ridiculous. The number of active users is WAY up since Musk took over, and he is making it more profitable in spite of left leaning activists attempting to scare advertisers. I agree the new name is not what I would have chosen, but Musk is smarter than me, so I'm sure it was well thought out. He has no interest in selling AFAIK, and thankfully, it is one of the few places left online where free speech is still respected. Kudos to Elon.

[Pugchief]

So are many of the ideas and concepts.

LOL Mr. EV will save the planet.

[Pugchief]

If the tax tables were more progressive like in the 1950s we would have no need to break up big corporations or wealthy individuals. Taxes would have done that automatically, but the super-rich weaseled their way into the Federal government and changed the tax tables to favor the rich in about 2000 and around 2010.

Can you please provide a source for this fantasy?


And now the US is racing toward a Dictatorship of the rich with no middle class.
Finally we agree, racing toward a dictatorship, yes.
Please define rich.

[Pugchief]

CNN is garbage must prefer to watch propaganda.

Fixed that for you....

[jimjamuser]

That's ridiculous. The number of active users is WAY up since Musk took over, and he is making it more profitable in spite of left leaning activists attempting to scare advertisers. I agree the new name is not what I would have chosen, but Musk is smarter than me, so I'm sure it was well thought out. He has no interest in selling AFAIK, and thankfully, it is one of the few places left online where free speech is still respected. Kudos to Elon.
As I hear it, the X (marks the spot) users are way up because there are NO user standards or ANY STANDARDS so X is a backward-leaning institution that acts like the wild WEST. lots of fights and barroom brawls, but little sophistication.

[jimjamuser]

As I hear it, the X (marks the spot) users are way up because there are NO user standards or ANY STANDARDS so X is a backward-leaning institution that acts like the wild WEST. Lots of fights and barroom brawls, but little sophistication.

[Pugchief]

Care to back up that nonsense?

I don't think I have EVER seen one of his posts with a link to a source.

[jimjamuser]

Can you please provide a source for this fantasy?


Finally we agree, racing toward a dictatorship, yes.
Please define rich.
Since I liked the politeness of the "please". I would call the rich the upper 10% of wealthy people. 1 % would be the super-rich like Musk and Jeff Bezos.
.....The 1st part about taxes........After WW2 the top tax bracket paid something like 70 or 80 % of their income. The rich had ways of getting around that so that the average person in the top bracket probably paid about 40%. And what happened in 2000 and 2010 was that on both occasions the top income bracket got their % dropped down. That has been widely reported on - just Google it.

[jimjamuser]

I don't think I have EVER seen one of his posts with a link to a source.
Just use your "Google machine". Otherwise, just think of me as the best source around here!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Fixed that for you....
Not sure what [/s] means. Must be a Russian code. But, I could reiterate that since CNN is a straight-up, middle-of-the-road, normal TV channel that goes out of its way to present BOTH slightly left-of-center and slightly right-of-center viewpoints on each issue, anyone that has a problem with CNN must be either FAR right or Far left

[Stu from NYC]

Not sure what [/s] means. Must be a Russian code. But, I could reiterate that since CNN is a straight-up, middle-of-the-road, normal TV channel that goes out of its way to present BOTH slightly left-of-center and slightly right-of-center viewpoints on each issue, anyone that has a problem with CNN must be either FAR right or Far left

CNN is not slightly anything, very far left and often called with truth the Communist news network.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Don’t matter they still have your information. Just because you don’t get it don’t mean anything.

Yes, they know that I used THEIR search engine to search for Florida long-neck turtles. I mean, it's their search engine, they kind of need to know what I'm typing into the buffer if I expect them to give me an answer.

What they don't get from me, is ad revenue.