Pulling a Fire Alarm to Open A door

[mtdjed]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

[Two Bills]

Or maybe a Aye trying to upset some children playing at grownups?
Who noes.:icon_wink:

[Kelevision]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

Yippy!!! A political post!

[mtdjed]

Yippy!!! A political post!
Not Really. More of an observation of stupidity. Imagine if there were people doing this in other public places. We would be in a constant state of evacuation.

[JP]

Reminds me of what happened in Tennessee. If you can't get your way by convincing others your ideas are best, you throw a temper tantrum like an immature person. This guy should be held accountable and its not much different than enforcing a senate dress code. Its all about decorum and being civil.

[xcaligirl]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?
I think the reason was that the subject had the "combo-pack" of intelligence! Just amazing how they try to pass it off on trying to open the door because they think everyone is just stupid and will believe them....

[Stu from NYC]

They should be removed from congress

[Battlebasset]

Here's what should happen in this case:

Code of the District of Columbia

§ 22–1319. False alarms and false reports; hoax weapons.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person or persons to willfully or knowingly give a false alarm of fire within the District of Columbia, and any person or persons violating the provisions of this subsection shall, upon conviction, be deemed guilty of a misdemeanor and be punished by a fine not more than the amount set forth in § 22-3571.01 or by imprisonment for not more than 6 months, or by both such fine and imprisonment.

[Velvet]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

No. In fact, building security recommended it to me. I was a grad student studying after hours in the lobby of the library. Sunday, the library closed early. I was lost in my books and writing at the table when I heard a whistle. I looked around and although when the library closed its doors there were several people in the hallway at desks like I was, now there was nobody. There were classroom doors with alcoves around the hallway. In the shadow of one of these I saw a nude figure. He was the one whistling. I remembered the police teaching to show neither fear, nor aggression. I threw my backpack at the floor (not at him) and said, “Go pick on someone else”. Then got up and walked to the nearby elevator. The elevator doors opened immediately, I got in and went to the building lobby. The building had security cameras at all entrances but somehow this guy avoided them. Security told me that I should have pulled the fire alarm as that would have alerted them to exactly where I was.

Later, in the newspapers, I recognized the face of my intimidator. He was Paul Bernardo, the serial rapist killer. This was early in his career, he looked like an under graduate to me.

[Stu from NYC]

No. In fact, building security recommended it to me. I was a grad student studying after hours in the lobby of the library. Sunday, the library closed early. I was lost in my books and writing at the table when I heard a whistle. I looked around and although when the library closed its doors there were several people in the hallway at desks like I was, now there was nobody. There were classroom doors with alcoves around the hallway. In the shadow of one of these I saw a nude figure. He was the one whistling. I remembered the police teaching to show neither fear, nor aggression. I threw my backpack at the floor (not at him) and said, “Go pick on someone else”. Then got up and walked to the nearby elevator. The elevator doors opened immediately, I got in and went to the building lobby. The building had security cameras at all entrances but somehow this guy avoided them. Security told me that I should have pulled the fire alarm as that would have alerted them to exactly where I was.

Later, in the newspapers, I recognized the face of my intimidator. He was Paul Bernardo, the serial rapist killer. This was early in his career, he looked like an under graduate to me.

Wow

[BillY41]

Not familiar with DC law but in NYS where the individual resides it is a misdemeanor. I would arrest him.

[PhilG]

Think we all know the reason
Rep. Bowman under investigation for pulling fire alarm as McCarthy compares it to Jan. 6 (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jamaal-bowman-pulled-fire-alarm-rcna118230)

[MandoMan]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

Here’s the Florida statute. I don’t know about the hallowed halls of Congress.
“ 806.101 False alarms of fires. —Whoever, without reasonable cause, by outcry or the ringing of bells, or otherwise, makes or circulates, or causes to be made or circulated, a false alarm of fire, shall for the first conviction be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s.”

I believe the perpetrator is in trouble over this. However, the “real reasons” you list are insulting.

[Berwin]

I used to be in charge of building access for a number of buildings in DC. One of the things the access control system has to do is to immediately open all security turnstiles and unlock all exterior doors if a fire alarm is pulled. Fail Safe as apposed to Fail Deadly. Just a technical post, no idea about the politics of the situation.

[DPWM21]

Good thing we don’t allow posts about holding Bible upside down, taking classified documents home, sharing info of said documents, rape, fraud…so much crime in the last few years!

[DPWM21]

PS: look up a recent indecent exposure/vaping in public place previous arrest record of a Colorado woman…who also is in the hallowed halls. Where is post here about that? How about guilt is guilt? Whoever they are? Where one get their info leads into thinking habits…it’s all crooks that need to go. Think about it. # 2 PS - the emails were found, after years of investigation scrutiny and years of false accusations to be….well..it doesn't matter bout facts…. as most people have made up their minds anyway. Even with false info cause the liars know their followers —-won’t listen to other info. Beware of enemies foreign and domestic.

[JGibson]

He actually posted recently on social media "no one is above the law" the irony.

[Wondering]

The only stupidity I see is the posting of this political nonsense. Gotta get a life! How about January 6, 2021 at the US Capitol!

[airstreamingypsy]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

Maybe he thought he was above the law, seems common these days. Look at you, you think you are above the rules posting a political post.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?

Pulling a fire alarm is a misdemeanor in DC which typically results in a fine of less than $1000. It /can/ result in jail time of I believe up to 1 year (that might've been California - DC might only be 6 months), but never does.

If the fire alarm was attached to a fire door, there might've been the expectation that the alarm itself was disabled, and the engagement of the "arm" that triggers it would have opened the door. We had those in high school and you see them in the rear of many strip-mall stores. If you try to open the door, it sets off the alarm because you have to push on the big red arm with the words FIRE ALARM DO NOT USE written across it. When I worked for a Party City right before moving to Florida, ours was disabled. We could just use the door to open it. There was no lock or handle on the outside so we'd have to walk around the front to get back in. Or we'd prop the door open with a brick.

[OhioBuckeye]

Personally I say charge them!

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

It is a crime to pull the fire alarm if there’s not a fire
No one is above the law 🙄
Should be disbarred and sent to Jail to do his time

[Vermilion Villager]

Not Really. More of an observation of stupidity. Imagine if there were people doing this in other public places. We would be in a constant state of evacuation.
NO.....this is a political post! Literally a million things going on in the world and that is what the poster thinks is important today. It's also really sad that the poster thinks we are too stupid to notice it.:mornincoffee:

[ron32162]

He was also a principal at a school and and suspended many kids for pulling fire alarms

[Pat2015]

Both were wrong and many people were prosecuted. How about this fool??

[Vermilion Villager]

Good thing we don’t allow posts about holding Bible upside down, taking classified documents home, sharing info of said documents, rape, fraud…so much crime in the last few years!
WELL SAID!!!!! :ho:
I'm watching that person sitting in a New York City courtroom right now. The OP… Who is so concerned about an individual pulling the fire alarm must be having his head explode right now over that…NOT!!!!!

[bark4me]

If a person pulls a Fire Alarm for a reason other than a fire, would that be a crime?

Perhaps a child unaware of consequence, a person trapped in a location needing assistance, someone miscalculating the situation, etc would be an excuse. Maybe even a mistake if in the dark, or perhaps an immigrant not familiar with the language or item.

My middle-class training from grade school up said that there were certain things you do not do. One was not to pull an alarm unless there was a need.

Now there is an elected official who pulls the lever supposedly to get the door open into the room in Congress.

What was the real reason? Lack of Knowledge, stupidity, youth, an immigrant, language, dark, smoke, or nefarious?
Clearly nefarious! However nothing will happen. They're all above the law!