New Rule? Golf Carts & Championship Courses

[BrianL99]

So there was a posted rumor on FaceBook last week, regarding golf cart use at Championship Courses.

The Poster said, "As of November 1, 2023, no more than (2) Carts per foursome. Has anyone heard anything about this change?

Palmer Legends has a similar rule, in that they require if a group has more than 2 carts, 1 cart must be designated "Cart Path Only" on each hole. [The simple way to accomplish this goal, is to just split it up: Front 9/Back 9 or 1-6, etc.)

I can understand the logic, but not the liability and aggravation.

I don't want to ride in a gasoline powered golf cart. I wouldn't do it at a $20/Muni, I'm surely not going to do it at a course I'm paying $75 to play.

I'm surely not going to play golf in someone else's "Street Rod Golf Cart" or Atomic Car.

What about the liability? How is a course going to require someone, to trust someone else to drive them around a golf course, with hills, water, & sand hazards, in a 15 year old golf cart?

To say nothing of the fact, having to ride with some unknown stranger, takes all the fun and convenience out of having your own cart, set up exactly as you want to be.

& I suppose it's going to be revenue negative, as no one will ever rent a golf cart again.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

So there was a posted rumor on FaceBook last week, regarding golf cart use at Championship Courses.

The Poster said, "As of November 1, 2023, no more than (2) Carts per foursome. Has anyone heard anything about this change?

Palmer Legends has a similar rule, in that they require if a group has more than 2 carts, 1 cart must be designated "Cart Path Only" on each hole. [The simple way to accomplish this goal, is to just split it up: Front 9/Back 9 or 1-6, etc.)

I can understand the logic, but not the liability and aggravation.

I don't want to ride in a gasoline powered golf cart. I wouldn't do it at a $20/Muni, I'm surely not going to do it at a course I'm paying $75 to play.

I'm surely not going to play golf in someone else's "Street Rod Golf Cart" or Atomic Car.

What about the liability? How is a course going to require someone, to trust someone else to drive them around a golf course, with hills, water, & sand hazards, in a 15 year old golf cart?

To say nothing of the fact, having to ride with some unknown stranger, takes all the fun and convenience out of having your own cart, set up exactly as you want to be.

& I suppose it's going to be revenue negative, as no one will ever rent a golf cart again.

So put your clubs on that other cart and walk the course.

[alwann]

All the championship courses have that rule but few (if any) enforce it. Worse on the executive courses where you might see four players, each in a separate cart. Yes, most holes are par 3 but not all. I agree with the OP and won't ride with a smokers, or in some uncomfortable funny cart. Most of the time when three carts are used, the players will take turns keeping the cart in the rough or on the path.

[Lottoguy]

Everybody on the executive courses stay on the concrete path. The only ones that stray have the handicap placard on their cart allowing them to go on the grass.

[Topspinmo]

Then walk, carry you’re bag, and get some real exercise :D

[BamaBoy451]

Most of the Championship courses have the 2 cart rule but at most some allow three. It would be curious what the liability is if you were forced to ride in a stranger's cart and he did something stupid and got you hurt. The executive courses shouldn't be a problem since most are all par three's and there is no reason to deviate from the cart path even the boneheads that drive around a puddle on the cart path creating ruts in the mud. During the Covid period using 4 carts on average spread up our round by 8 to 10 minutes which cut down the jack jawing of double occupied carts.

[BrianL99]

Then walk, carry you’re bag, and get some real exercise :D

I’de prefer that. I walk 18 holes, 5 times a week now.

Unfortunately, that’s not practical in TV, other than maybe TDS.

There’s simply no way to maintain pace with people on Golf Carts, when it could be a mile or more walk, between 9’s, to say nothing of the walk from some Greens to the next Tee Box.

[DonH57]

The reason I'm guessing to limit to two carts maybe because of the knuckleheads that can't seem to grasp the 90 degree rule and run down the length of the fairways and rutting the wet areas.

[kansasr]

Such third world problems we have to put up here in The Villages

[DonH57]

Then walk, carry you’re bag, and get some real exercise :D

I plan to eventually walk the executive courses again after I get my second knee replacement done and leg strength back.

[mickey100]

I’de prefer that. I walk 18 holes, 5 times a week now.

Unfortunately, that’s not practical in TV, other than maybe TDS.

There’s simply no way to maintain pace with people on Golf Carts, when it could be a mile or more walk, between 9’s, to say nothing of the walk from some Greens to the next Tee Box.

Exactly. Up north we always walked the 18 hole courses, but these (championship) courses are just not set up for walking. I'm sure the reason they want less carts is less wear and tear on the course, but I agree with people over the liability issues, and just the question of comfort. You don't know what you're getting into riding with strangers.

[Laker14]

I wasn't feeling good the other day and the starter at Palmer let me take a 3rd cart, with the proviso that we only had 2 in the fairway at a time, which we pretty much followed. We might have slipped up a couple of times, just not paying attention.
I wonder if 4 people in 4 carts really put that much more wear and tear on the grass than 4 people in 2 carts, when you consider all of the back and forth that happens when one player hits it left, and the cart partner hits it right, and the cart is going back and forth across the fairway, as opposed to using two different carts, and each player heading straight for his own ball, hopefully staying on the cart path and rough as long as possible.

[asianthree]

So there was a posted rumor on FaceBook last week, regarding golf cart use at Championship Courses.

The Poster said, "As of November 1, 2023, no more than (2) Carts per foursome. Has anyone heard anything about this change?

Palmer Legends has a similar rule, in that they require if a group has more than 2 carts, 1 cart must be designated "Cart Path Only" on each hole. [The simple way to accomplish this goal, is to just split it up: Front 9/Back 9 or 1-6, etc.)

I can understand the logic, but not the liability and aggravation.

I don't want to ride in a gasoline powered golf cart. I wouldn't do it at a $20/Muni, I'm surely not going to do it at a course I'm paying $75 to play.

I'm surely not going to play golf in someone else's "Street Rod Golf Cart" or Atomic Car.

What about the liability? How is a course going to require someone, to trust someone else to drive them around a golf course, with hills, water, & sand hazards, in a 15 year old golf cart?

To say nothing of the fact, having to ride with some unknown stranger, takes all the fun and convenience out of having your own cart, set up exactly as you want to be.

& I suppose it's going to be revenue negative, as no one will ever rent a golf cart again.

So what did you do prior to Covid, ride in a gas cart, or walk, either way go back to that. No worries about the change, unless you will be pleading with starter, and hope to get your way.

[BrianL99]

So what did you do prior to Covid, ride in a gas cart, or walk, either way go back to that. No worries about the change, unless you will be pleading with starter, and hope to get your way.

What does Covid have to do with it?

& I haven't ridden in a gas cart, since the 90's and not planning to start again.

& Starters don't make policy. They implement.

[MSchad]

I wonder if 4 people in 4 carts really put that much more wear and tear on the grass than 4 people in 2 carts, when you consider all of the back and forth that happens when one player hits it left, and the cart partner hits it right, and the cart is going back and forth across the fairway, as opposed to using two different carts, and each player heading straight for his own ball, hopefully staying on the cart path and rough as long as possible.The wear and tear is most evident where 4 carts leave the cart paths wether they stay in the rough or proceed to the fairway.

[MSchad]

What does Covid have to do with it?
The policy before Covid was 2 carts to a group.
And there are exceptions to this new policy……
No more than 2 carts per group with ‘same reservation number.’
If there are 3 carts, 1 staying in rough still is stated as an option.

[BrianL99]

The policy before Covid was 2 carts to a group.
And there are exceptions to this new policy……
No more than 2 carts per group with ‘same reservation number.’
If there are 3 carts, 1 staying in rough still is stated as an option.

Where did you find this information?

& thank you for posting the relevant facts!

(I just did a Google search and I can only find a Press Release from back in May, 2021. You apparently found more recent info?)

[JMintzer]

So put your clubs on that other cart and walk the course.

Not everyone living in TV is physically capable of walking 18 holes...

[JMintzer]

Then walk, carry you’re bag, and get some real exercise :D

Thank goodness we'll have those new, faster EMT response times...

[MSchad]

Where did you find this information?

& thank you for posting the relevant facts!

(I just did a Google search and I can only find a Press Release from back in May, 2021. You apparently found more recent info?)
Not sure you’ll find a ‘written’ policy for this pre Covid. This was just how it was done. You were ‘asked’ to double up and 99.9 % of the people knew this and had no problem. They usually did it voluntarily before checking in with the starter. Even on the executives doubling up was done back then. We always doubled up before leaving the house. You go anywhere outside the bubble and you would be hard pressed to ever see 3 carts on a course unless there is a single joining a group of three. And that is still allowed and will be allowed here.

[John Mayes]

Not sure you’ll find a ‘written’ policy for this pre Covid. This was just how it was done. You were ‘asked’ to double up and 99.9 % of the people knew this and had no problem. They usually did it voluntarily before checking in with the starter. Even on the executives doubling up was done back then. We always doubled up before leaving the house. You go anywhere outside the bubble and you would be hard pressed to ever see 3 carts on a course unless there is a single joining a group of three. And that is still allowed and will be allowed here.

Actually, you can find it in @golfthevillages.com. Under the tab, “Golfing in The Villages”, scroll down until you see “Golfing in The Villages Brochure”. I think it’s spelled out on pages 14 and 15. Those were the rules prior to COVID but were relaxed when the virus started ramping up. The new rules are slightly less restrictive than the pre-virus rules.

[UpNorth]

Then walk, carry you’re bag, and get some real exercise :D


That's great! Make the execs walking only. That will free up a lot of tee times!:laugh:

[BrianL99]

Actually, you can find it in @golfthevillages.com. Under the tab, “Golfing in The Villages”, scroll down until you see “Golfing in The Villages Brochure”. I think it’s spelled out on pages 14 and 15. Those were the rules prior to COVID but were relaxed when the virus started ramping up. The new rules are slightly less restrictive than the pre-virus rules.

Now I'm really confused.

The citation reads: "Unless special circumstances prevail, starters are not authorized to allow more than two golf cars per group".

A previous poster said the "new rules" say that no more than (2) carts with the "same Reservation Number".

I've played 200 rounds in TV and in at least 150 of those rounds, we had at least 3 carts. Palmer Legends has a specific "rule" that allows 3 carts. Every other course's rule seems to be "no more than (2) carts in the Fairway at one time".


Also. The Citation reads: "If a golfer needs greater access on and around the course, such as driving onto or near the greens and tees, a "single rider golf car" must be used. Each Championship Course has single rider golf cars available for use on the Championship or
Executive Courses".

I've never see a "single rider golf cart" in TV and I've played in plenty of groups, with carts driving almost onto the Greens.

[John Mayes]

Now I'm really confused.

The citation reads: "Unless special circumstances prevail, starters are not authorized to allow more than two golf cars per group".

A previous poster said the "new rules" say that no more than (2) carts with the "same Reservation Number".

I've played 200 rounds in TV and in at least 150 of those rounds, we had at least 3 carts. Palmer Legends has a specific "rule" that allows 3 carts. Every other course's rule seems to be "no more than (2) carts in the Fairway at one time".


Also. The Citation reads: "If a golfer needs greater access on and around the course, such as driving onto or near the greens and tees, a "single rider golf car" must be used. Each Championship Course has single rider golf cars available for use on the Championship or
Executive Courses".

I've never see a "single rider golf cart" in TV and I've played in plenty of groups, with carts driving almost onto the Greens.

Couple of examples for special circumstances, 1) Fourth player joins under a different reservation number than the original threesome, 2) Someone with health concerns that would pose a risk to themselves or others to pair up.

Single rider golf carts are referred to as Solo Rider carts that are required for golfers with mobility issues. Each Championship Course has a Solo Rider.

The flyers for the new rules are posted today in each pro shop or starter shack bulletin board.

I think most pros would be happy to answer your specific questions or address any concerns.

[BrianL99]

I think most pros would be happy to answer your specific questions or address any concerns.

Most of the Pros I've met in TV are really good guys. That said, the staff seems to interpret policies in various ways. I've run into that on more than one occasion, which is why I like to read the actual policies.

I had 5 different Staff people at Mallory Hills, argue with me over pricing/holes for the "3rd Wave". I finally got a hold of Brady Godfrey the Pro, who agreed with me and said he would re-educate his staff. 3 days later, I got into the same disagreement with 2 member of his Staff, despite being able to show them exact language in the Golf Policies.

Personally I've never witnessed it, but I often hear of disagreements with Starters, over "appropriate dress", even though the rules are clearly posted on most every Starter's wall.

[tophcfa]

I don't want to ride in a gasoline powered golf cart. I wouldn't do it at a $20/Muni, I'm surely not going to do it at a course I'm paying $75 to play.


I will never again get in an electric cart to play a round. Last time I did I was having one of my best rounds ever when the dam thing ran out of juice on the 12th hole and screwed up the round. I would rather take my own cart and not leave the rough. Hopefully people who are forced to stay in the rough remember to bring their sand bottle with them so they can fill in their divots, otherwise it would be better for the course to just allow all three carts access to their golf balls. Fortunately for the guy with the electric cart who insisted on driving, I had a tow strap in my cart and towed him home after the round.

[UpNorth]

I will never again get in an electric cart to play a round. Last time I did I was having one of my best rounds ever when the dam thing ran out of juice on the 12th hole and screwed up the round. I would rather take my own cart and not leave the rough. Hopefully people who are forced to stay in the rough remember to bring their sand bottle with them so they can fill in their divots, otherwise it would be better for the course to just allow all three carts access to their golf balls. Fortunately for the guy with the electric cart who insisted on driving, I had a tow strap in my cart and towed him home after the round.

Don't blame the cart. Blame the driver who was stupid enough to not have enough charge in his cart to go out that day. Blame the gas cart driver who runs out of gas as well.

[JMintzer]

That's great! Make the execs walking only. That will free up a lot of tee times!:laugh:

Yeah, but it'll slow down the pace of play...

"Hit your shot, drag Larry... Hit another shot, drag Larry..." :p

[DonH57]

yeah, but it'll slow down the pace of play...

"hit your shot, drag larry... Hit another shot, drag larry..." :p

roflmao !

[Mrmean58]

The liability is the same as when someone you know does some bone head thing and you get hurt. While I don't have percentages to support this stance but based on observation I believe rarely does a third or fourth cart in a group remain in the rough or on the cart path.

[Mrmean58]

Actually, you can find it in @golfthevillages.com. Under the tab, “Golfing in The Villages”, scroll down until you see “Golfing in The Villages Brochure”. I think it’s spelled out on pages 14 and 15. Those were the rules prior to COVID but were relaxed when the virus started ramping up. The new rules are slightly less restrictive than the pre-virus rules.
That's correct and in all honesty we should have gone back to the two cart rule a year or two ago. All courses of campus did. Hell even in CA they were doing two carts before they ended their shutdown. And yes they have smokers and God knows they have strangers.

[MidWestIA]

This is a minor deal and yes true I played yesterday - why make it a big deal or just play exec courses

[asianthree]

Don't blame the cart. Blame the driver who was stupid enough to not have enough charge in his cart to go out that day. Blame the gas cart driver who runs out of gas as well.

Rarely does one see a gas cart sitting on the side of the cart path, due to lack of gas. Our clutch went out on ours, plenty of gas, just not a working clutch. Even the electrics are few and far between on side of cart path, but some on the new carts mileage is only 40 miles, wouldn’t make a tee time far away to play championship

[bowlingal]

Lottoguy....you forgot....except the par 4"s

[WingedFoot78]

Those were the rules prior to the pandemic.

[nhkim]

Such third world problems we have to put up here in The Villages

The term is "first world problems."

[hrdcorpsmarine]

YEA, about time. And while we’re in this discussion, EXIT THE FAIRWAY AT THE EXIT BEACON!!!

[ehonour]

Very few courses I've played—anywhere—allow more than two carts per group. It has to do with wear and tear on the course. You can easily see that wear and tear as you play; just look at any place where the carts routinely leave or enter the concrete cart path.

The explicit rules in the Villages Good Golf Guide are clear: no more than two carts per group. "If three golf cars are necessary," only two carts are allowed onto the fairway. They get to make the rules. We get to live within the rules, for the benefit of all.

[phousel]

Everybody on the executive courses stay on the concrete path. The only ones that stray have the handicap placard on their cart allowing them to go on the grass.

Par 4 holes allow riding on the fairways.

[PAB51]

Most of the Championship courses have the 2 cart rule but at most some allow three. It would be curious what the liability is if you were forced to ride in a stranger's cart and he did something stupid and got you hurt. The executive courses shouldn't be a problem since most are all par three's and there is no reason to deviate from the cart path even the boneheads that drive around a puddle on the cart path creating ruts in the mud. During the Covid period using 4 carts on average spread up our round by 8 to 10 minutes which cut down the jack jawing of double occupied carts.


An accident did happen to a friend who had to ride w an elderly golfer when he rode up on a hill, turned & slid into sand trap. The cart was on its side. The elderly man was injured, & my friend’s ankle was severely bruised.

[Mrfriendly]

I wasn't feeling good the other day and the starter at Palmer let me take a 3rd cart, with the proviso that we only had 2 in the fairway at a time, which we pretty much followed. We might have slipped up a couple of times, just not paying attention.
I wonder if 4 people in 4 carts really put that much more wear and tear on the grass than 4 people in 2 carts, when you consider all of the back and forth that happens when one player hits it left, and the cart partner hits it right, and the cart is going back and forth across the fairway, as opposed to using two different carts, and each player heading straight for his own ball, hopefully staying on the cart path and rough as long as possible.

You could actually do a scientific experiment using an exercise type app like “Map my ride” which when done with Golf and used in each golf cart, would track and show exactly your location movements through the whole round.
The next time you play, do it with two people in a cart and see the difference.

[txfan]

Rarely does one see a gas cart sitting on the side of the cart path, due to lack of gas. Our clutch went out on ours, plenty of gas, just not a working clutch. Even the electrics are few and far between on side of cart path, but some on the new carts mileage is only 40 miles, wouldn’t make a tee time far away to play championship

Electric is the only way to go and all that should be allowed on golf courses.

They're quieter so as not to disturb other golfers and environmentally friendly.

Fully charged overnight and I've driven 15.5 miles each way to Lopez, and played 18 holes with side stop at Sumter on the way home. That was a 45-mile day.

I don't bad-mouth gas carts. It's just an individual choice of household.

Why people get so passionate about it is perplexing.

And these courses are not in good enough shape to worry about 1-4 carts on the course. Two carts doesn't speed up play.

"Ready golf" speeds up play and picking up "in the leather" speeds up play.

[Steve]

Everybody on the executive courses stay on the concrete path. The only ones that stray have the handicap placard on their cart allowing them to go on the grass.

Unless it's a Par 4 or the rare Par 5. On those holes carts are allowed to leave the cart trail.

[Steve]

I wasn't feeling good the other day and the starter at Palmer let me take a 3rd cart, with the proviso that we only had 2 in the fairway at a time, which we pretty much followed. We might have slipped up a couple of times, just not paying attention.
I wonder if 4 people in 4 carts really put that much more wear and tear on the grass than 4 people in 2 carts, when you consider all of the back and forth that happens when one player hits it left, and the cart partner hits it right, and the cart is going back and forth across the fairway, as opposed to using two different carts, and each player heading straight for his own ball, hopefully staying on the cart path and rough as long as possible.

I agree. I'd like to see a study as to how many miles a cart puts on with two players in it versus two carts with one player each. I'll bet the difference would be minimal, especially if the 90 degree rule was adhered to.

[DonH57]

Electric is the only way to go and all that should be allowed on golf courses.

They're quieter so as not to disturb other golfers and environmentally friendly.

Fully charged overnight and I've driven 15.5 miles each way to Lopez, and played 18 holes with side stop at Sumter on the way home. That was a 45-mile day.

I don't bad-mouth gas carts. It's just an individual choice of household.

Why people get so passionate about it is perplexing.

And these courses are not in good enough shape to worry about 1-4 carts on the course. Two carts doesn't speed up play.

"Ready golf" speeds up play and picking up "in the leather" speeds up play.

I agree. As much as I personally would never by an electric golf cart I don't bad mouth those that choose to. Most of the courses here are not in that great of shape anyway and it has nothing to do with the number of carts. Two carts versus four carts definately does not speed up play. If the cart operators observed the rules of fairway traffic there wouldn't have to be an argument as with divot and ball mark repairs and raking of the bunkers.

[Professor]

So there was a posted rumor on FaceBook last week, regarding golf cart use at Championship Courses.

The Poster said, "As of November 1, 2023, no more than (2) Carts per foursome. Has anyone heard anything about this change?

Palmer Legends has a similar rule, in that they require if a group has more than 2 carts, 1 cart must be designated "Cart Path Only" on each hole. [The simple way to accomplish this goal, is to just split it up: Front 9/Back 9 or 1-6, etc.)

I can understand the logic, but not the liability and aggravation.

I don't want to ride in a gasoline powered golf cart. I wouldn't do it at a $20/Muni, I'm surely not going to do it at a course I'm paying $75 to play.

I'm surely not going to play golf in someone else's "Street Rod Golf Cart" or Atomic Car.

What about the liability? How is a course going to require someone, to trust someone else to drive them around a golf course, with hills, water, & sand hazards, in a 15 year old golf cart?

To say nothing of the fact, having to ride with some unknown stranger, takes all the fun and convenience out of having your own cart, set up exactly as you want to be.

& I suppose it's going to be revenue negative, as no one will ever rent a golf cart again.

As my dad would say, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope. You can always play courses outside of The Villages if you don't like the rules...

[Vermilion Villager]

Actually, you can find it in @golfthevillages.com. Under the tab, “Golfing in The Villages”, scroll down until you see “Golfing in The Villages Brochure”. I think it’s spelled out on pages 14 and 15. Those were the rules prior to COVID but were relaxed when the virus started ramping up. The new rules are slightly less restrictive than the pre-virus rules.
Maybe I'm reading this wrong but according to the document that is currently on the website there is a "maximum" of two riders per cart:

A maximum of two bags and riders are allowed
per golf car, regardless of the number of seats available.

I do not see anything where it says you cannot have one rider in a golf cart:undecided:

[tophcfa]

Electric is the only way to go and all that should be allowed on golf courses.

I don't bad-mouth gas carts.

Hmmm, now there’s a couple of contradictory statements.

[Bogie Shooter]

Maybe I'm reading this wrong but according to the document that is currently on the website there is a "maximum" of two riders per cart:

A maximum of two bags and riders are allowed
per golf car, regardless of the number of seats available.

I do not see anything where it says you cannot have one rider in a golf cart:undecided:

Why would that have to be stated if a maximum two carts are allowed?

[PurePeach]

Everybody on the executive courses stay on the concrete path. The only ones that stray have the handicap placard on their cart allowing them to go on the grass.
That’s wishful thinking. I’ve been on Exec courses and have seen many people driving all over them WITHOUT the red handicap placard. The Ambassador’s hands are tied as all he can do is tell them they’re not supposed to drive on the course, but they ignore him/her and continue to do so.

[DonH57]

That’s wishful thinking. I’ve been on Exec courses and have seen many people driving all over them WITHOUT the red handicap placard. The Ambassador’s hands are tied as all he can do is tell them they’re not supposed to drive on the course, but they ignore him/her and continue to do so.

That is very wishful thinking. You see it all the time. driving right on to the fringe of the greens, tee boxes, driving across the bunkers like they can't walk until they are parked at the grocery store and have no problem walking across the parking lot. In my opinion the red handicap placard or reasonable access requirements weren't tightened enough.

[Bogie Shooter]

Golf The Villages (http://Www.golfthevillages.com)

Effective November 1, 2023




No more than two golf cars will be allowed when golfers share the same reservation number and the same tee time.

When ‘special circumstances’ occur, making 3 golf cars an option, one golf car must remain off the fairway on each hole.

No more than three golf cars will be allowed in any group.

Exception: Only executive courses that have continuous
golf car path may allow up to four golf cars in a group with two golf cars remaining on the golf car path at all times.

[BamaBoy451]

An accident did happen to a friend who had to ride w an elderly golfer when he rode up on a hill, turned & slid into sand trap. The cart was on its side. The elderly man was injured, & my friend’s ankle was severely bruised.

Let me tell ya. When the villages started requesting golfers start doubling back up my neighbor ended up with Covid because the arse he was riding with didn't bother to inform any one he was Covid positive so we all had to get tested. Then after that paired up with a cigar smoker who had a generally bad disposition to new golfers and those of color. Since then he's always with us now or a neighbor.

[Mrmean58]

Not sure you’ll find a ‘written’ policy for this pre Covid. This was just how it was done. You were ‘asked’ to double up and 99.9 % of the people knew this and had no problem. They usually did it voluntarily before checking in with the starter. Even on the executives doubling up was done back then. We always doubled up before leaving the house. You go anywhere outside the bubble and you would be hard pressed to ever see 3 carts on a course unless there is a single joining a group of three. And that is still allowed and will be allowed here.
There actually was a written rule on golf carts pre COVID. That's why it published that the rule was relaxed during COVID to allow for individual carts.

[Mrmean58]

That's correct. There are some of the executive courses that do not have continuous cart paths where only two carts will be allowed.

[JGibson]

If I can't ride in my own cart why am I paying golf cart trail fees?

[BamaBoy451]

If I can't ride in my own cart why am I paying golf cart trail fees?

You have to pay the executive trail fee regardless of who's cart you ride in.

[JMintzer]

Electric is the only way to go and all that should be allowed on golf courses.

They're quieter so as not to disturb other golfers and environmentally friendly.

Fully charged overnight and I've driven 15.5 miles each way to Lopez, and played 18 holes with side stop at Sumter on the way home. That was a 45-mile day.

I don't bad-mouth gas carts. It's just an individual choice of household.

You just did...

Why people get so passionate about it is perplexing.

Agreed. Why are you so passionate about banning gas carts on the golf courses?

And these courses are not in good enough shape to worry about 1-4 carts on the course. Two carts doesn't speed up play.

I don't think anyone suggested using only 2 carts would "speed up play"...

"Ready golf" speeds up play and picking up "in the leather" speeds up play.

Absolutely correct! But if you insist on "putting out", no need to plumb bob a 2 foot putt...

[Vermilion Villager]

Why would that have to be stated if a maximum two carts are allowed?
My point was and is… This is the only reference made to people golfing and golf carts. Nowhere in the current online document does it say anything about the maximum number of golf carts per foursome. If they do something of this significance then they should update their documents.
With that said I called Cane Garden and it is true....

[Bogie Shooter]

My point was and is… This is the only reference made to people golfing and golf carts. Nowhere in the current online document does it say anything about the maximum number of golf carts per foursome. If they do something of this significance then they should update their documents.
With that said I called Cane Garden and it is true....

See post#52…..it is printed.
Received in Golf & Tennis email this morning.

[John Mayes]

My point was and is… This is the only reference made to people golfing and golf carts. Nowhere in the current online document does it say anything about the maximum number of golf carts per foursome. If they do something of this significance then they should update their documents.
With that said I called Cane Garden and it is true....

On the previous document, it’s bullet point #6 on page 14.

[Vermilion Villager]

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[John Mayes]

Why would that have to be stated if a maximum two carts are allowed?

It’s intended to let people know that no more than two people can go onto the course in one cart such as three golfers or two golfers and a spectator in a four seat cart.

[Number 10 GI]

For a pastime activity that is supposed to be relaxing and enjoyable it is hilarious there are so many complaints about it. Glad I never had the urge to pick up the game.

[BrianL99]

Golf The Villages (http://Www.golfthevillages.com)

Effective November 1, 2023


No more than two golf cars will be allowed when golfers share the same reservation number and the same tee time.

When ‘special circumstances’ occur, making 3 golf cars an option, one golf car must remain off the fairway on each hole.

No more than three golf cars will be allowed in any group.

Exception: Only executive courses that have continuous
golf car path may allow up to four golf cars in a group with two golf cars remaining on the golf car path at all times.


Finally, someone answered the question and posted the answer, as it relates to the supposed Nov. 1 date. It only took 4 pages of nonsense posts.

Thank you for answering and posting.

[BrianL99]

My point was and is… This is the only reference made to people golfing and golf carts. Nowhere in the current online document does it say anything about the maximum number of golf carts per foursome. If they do something of this significance then they should update their documents.
With that said I called Cane Garden and it is true....


https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Golf%20Cart%20Policies.pdf

[John Mayes]

Finally, someone answered the question and posted the answer, as it relates to the supposed Nov. 1 date. It only took 4 pages of nonsense posts.

Thank you for answering and posting.

I guess my response, #24, was useless and a waste of your time. My apologies. Also, my apologies that you had to take time out of your day to respond to it.

Won’t happen again.

[txfan]

Hmmm, now there’s a couple of contradictory statements.

Cut and paste makes it look contradictory. Having an attention span to read the whole comment would benefit you greatly.

[alwann]

https://www.golfthevillages.com/whatsnew/Golf%20Cart%20Policies.pdf

Being honest, I didn't read all the earlier posts, so permit me to ask what is a special circumstance and who decides if it's special? Let me know so I can use it as an excuse some day.

[Bogie Shooter]

Being honest, I didn't read all the earlier posts, so permit me to ask what is a special circumstance and who decides if it's special? Let me know so I can use it as an excuse some day.

You are missing a lot by not reading all…….

[BrianL99]

I guess my response, #24, was useless and a waste of your time.

... Also, my apologies that you had to take time out of your day to respond to it.

Won’t happen again.

No big deal, a lot of my time gets wasted on this site, when people don't bother to read the original or subsequent posts and prefer to restructure questions to suit their needs.

We're all used to it.

[Laker14]

Being honest, I didn't read all the earlier posts, so permit me to ask what is a special circumstance and who decides if it's special? Let me know so I can use it as an excuse some day.

I don't think it would take much. I did it the other day because I was still coughing from a cold, and didn't want to subject anyone to my noise. Also if you explain you might not be able to play 18, because of an ailment, you'll probably get an OKEE-dokee from the starter.

[JGibson]

You have to pay the executive trail fee regardless of who's cart you ride in.

I realize they do this BS outside TV but inside TV is total nonsense because one trail fee includes everyone in the household but not outside the household like your neighbor golfing buddy. My wife doesn't play golf and neither does his.

It's probably no coincidence they made the executive courses much harder to walk down south.

[drcar]

Now I'm really confused.

The citation reads: "Unless special circumstances prevail, starters are not authorized to allow more than two golf cars per group".

A previous poster said the "new rules" say that no more than (2) carts with the "same Reservation Number".

I've played 200 rounds in TV and in at least 150 of those rounds, we had at least 3 carts. Palmer Legends has a specific "rule" that allows 3 carts. Every other course's rule seems to be "no more than (2) carts in the Fairway at one time".


Also. The Citation reads: "If a golfer needs greater access on and around the course, such as driving onto or near the greens and tees, a "single rider golf car" must be used. Each Championship Course has single rider golf cars available for use on the Championship or
Executive Courses".

I've never see a "single rider golf cart" in TV and I've played in plenty of groups, with carts driving almost onto the Greens.

Single rider carts are called " A SOLO RIDER"

[golfing eagles]

Single rider carts are called " A SOLO RIDER"

And correct me if I'm wrong, but they are generally reserved for those few golfers who can't get in and out of a cart, has a swivel seat so they can hit from a semi seated position and may drive onto the greens. They are NOT to be construed as an option for someone who just wants to ride alone. Unlike those lazy slobs who request a wheelchair at the airport then literally run out of the terminal after claiming their 2 40# bags of luggage (and I was standing at the carousel right next to someone who did this 4 weeks ago----unbelievable, but that's why they don't have enough staff to push the passengers with legitimate needs to their gates)

[drcar]

I don't think it would take much. I did it the other day because I was still coughing from a cold, and didn't want to subject anyone to my noise. Also if you explain you might not be able to play 18, because of an ailment, you'll probably get an OKEE-dokee from the starter.

Sorry, no, if you are sick, you should not be out there:boom:

[drcar]

As my dad would say, some people would complain if you hung them with a new rope. You can always play courses outside of The Villages if you don't like the rules...

AND only have 2 CARTS

[drcar]

and correct me if i'm wrong, but they are generally reserved for those few golfers who can't get in and out of a cart, has a swivel seat so they can hit from a semi seated position and may drive onto the greens. They are not to be construed as an option for someone who just wants to ride alone. Unlike those lazy slobs who request a wheelchair at the airport then literally run out of the terminal after claiming their 2 40# bags of luggage (and i was standing at the carousel right next to someone who did this 4 weeks ago----unbelievable, but that's why they don't have enough staff to push the passengers with legitimate needs to their gates)

you are correct!!!!

[BrianL99]

Sorry, no, if you are sick, you should not be out there:boom:

Oh? Sick people should be confined? Perhaps in Leper Colonies?

We tried that a few years ago. Didn't work out very well.

You likely live in a Retirement Community. Check with your neighbors, let me know if any of them tell you they're in perfect health.

[drcar]

Oh? Sick people should be confined? Perhaps in Leper Colonies?

We tried that a few years ago. Didn't work out very well.

You likely live in a Retirement Community. Check with your neighbors, let me know if any of them tell you they're in perfect health.

Well what if all 4 golfers say they are sick, should they be allowed to take 4 carts?

And I didn't say confined.

[Laker14]

Sorry, no, if you are sick, you should not be out there:boom:

No. I was fine to play. I just needed to not be in a cart with anyone else.
But thanks for your opinion.
I really appreciate it.

[BrianL99]

Well what if all 4 golfers say they are sick, should they be allowed to take 4 carts?



As long as they stay on the Cart Paths, who cares how many carts are out there?

The problem is, everyone wants their cake & eat it too.

I don't think carts should be allowed on fairways, under any circumstances.

Unfortunately, someone else owns the TV golf courses and they're not likely to let me make up rules for them.

[JMintzer]

And correct me if I'm wrong, but they are generally reserved for those few golfers who can't get in and out of a cart, has a swivel seat so they can hit from a semi seated position and may drive onto the greens. They are NOT to be construed as an option for someone who just wants to ride alone. Unlike those lazy slobs who request a wheelchair at the airport then literally run out of the terminal after claiming their 2 40# bags of luggage (and I was standing at the carousel right next to someone who did this 4 weeks ago----unbelievable, but that's why they don't have enough staff to push the passengers with legitimate needs to their gates)

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[John Mayes]

And correct me if I'm wrong, but they are generally reserved for those few golfers who can't get in and out of a cart, has a swivel seat so they can hit from a semi seated position and may drive onto the greens. They are NOT to be construed as an option for someone who just wants to ride alone. Unlike those lazy slobs who request a wheelchair at the airport then literally run out of the terminal after claiming their 2 40# bags of luggage (and I was standing at the carousel right next to someone who did this 4 weeks ago----unbelievable, but that's why they don't have enough staff to push the passengers with legitimate needs to their gates)

You are correct.

[kkingston57]

What does Covid have to do with it?

& I haven't ridden in a gas cart, since the 90's and not planning to start again.

& Starters don't make policy. They implement.

During COVID we could take our cart out alone and without any restrictions. Now only 2 carts can be used and DRIVEN in the fairways. If a person wants to ride alone, they can not go out into the fairways.

Have to admit it sped up play but do agree that there is more wear and tear on the golf course, especially during the cold months.

[kkingston57]

Not everyone living in TV is physically capable of walking 18 holes...

And there are long walking distances between some holes, especially at Palme Legends.

[kkingston57]

An accident did happen to a friend who had to ride w an elderly golfer when he rode up on a hill, turned & slid into sand trap. The cart was on its side. The elderly man was injured, & my friend’s ankle was severely bruised.

Elderly man needs to call Morgan and Morgan or Dan Newlin or ......