AirBnB- renter stays for 540 days without paying rent

[Randall55]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!

[Stu from NYC]

Wholly mackeral. Would think the owner needs to talk to a real estate attorney

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!

Where is the article? You didn't mention where you found this information or offer a link to it.

[Randall55]

Where is the article? You didn't mention where you found this information or offer a link to it.I figured those who were interested could google the words California renter 540 days. I did not put up a link because there are several articles. Each provides information that is not found in the others.

[Chi-Town]

If true, owner needs to hire Carmine and Guido.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!

I figured those who were interested could google the words California renter 540 days. I did not put up a link because there are several articles. Each provides information that is not found in the others.

You singled out one specific article. That indicates that you were referring to that one article that you singled out. When you do something like that, it helps to cite your source, so people can see which article you're talking about. If you weren't referring to one specific article, maybe you could've - y'know - not stated there was a singular article. Or said something like "several interesting articles".

[margaretmattson]

Not surprised. I have lived beside a few problem renters. My heart goes out to the owner.

[Dond1959]

Airbnb Host Didn't Register Home Properly, Can't Remove 540-Day Guest (https://www.businessinsider.com/airbnb-host-didnt-register-home-properly-cant-get-rid-guest-2023-10?op=1)

[Bill14564]

Has little to do with airbnb and much to do with unscrupulous renters and lawyers. Hate to see laws that were put in place to provide protection being used as weapons. Would like to think it is only California but have heard of squatter cases in many states.

[JGibson]

I know a neighbor in NY who didn't pay rent for 2 years and after going back and forth to court welfare ended paying the back 2 years of rent only for him to not pay rent for another 2 years before they were finally able to get the Marshall to come and evict him.

So 4 years of free rent. Folks know how to play the system in certain cities.

[justjim]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!

Nothing surprises me as to what happens in California!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

These kinds of things don't only happen in California. And they don't only happen with AirBnB rentals for sure. Squatting is an age-old "tradition" and eviction laws exist to protect tenants from being unfairly thrown out of their apartments to make way for new tenants who pay higher rents. Unfortunately sometimes these laws go too far with their protections and end up shafting the landlord instead.

Seems like this was one extreme case with someone who has a history of abusing their status as a tenant. The things you learn when you go to Harvard. . .

[justjim]

No need to go to Harvard to learn how to “work” the system. They live among us!

[Rainger99]

Let's hope that she doesn't move to the Villages!

EXCLUSIVE: Airbnb guest Elizabeth Hirschhorn was kicked out of an Oakland rental two months before moving into Sascha Jovanovic's Brentwood mansion where the Harvard grad has overstayed for 540 days | Daily Mail Online (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12597887/Airbnb-guest-Elizabeth-Hirschhorn-kicked-Oakland-rental-two-months-moving-Sascha-Jovanovics-Brentwood-mansion-Harvard-grad-overstayed-540-days.html)

[coralway]

It’s not a nightmare tenant, it’s a stupid owner

[manaboutown]

Arrest the squatter and lock her up!

[PhilG]

"savy"? Perhaps evil is more appropriate.

[jswirs]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!
Ever see the movie "Pacific Heights"?

[terryf484]

Where is the article? You didn't mention where you found this information or offer a link to it.

Brentwood Airbnb Tenant Won’t Leave or Pay Rent for Months (https://therealdeal.com/la/2023/10/04/brentwood-airbnb-tenant-wont-leave-or-pay-rent-for-months/)

[La lamy]

Off topic, but reminds me of adult kids who just won't leave...

[GizmoWhiskers]

It's the risk you take running an ABnB or renting your home out. When things go well you get a house paid for by someone else and life is great! You get a squatter and you lose a lot or just a little. Roll the dice. It's on you.

AbnB's and short term hotel like rentals subject neighbors to risks that $$ making landlords could care less about. I don't feel sorry for home owners rolling the dice and being raked over the coals by squatters. Live and learn - the theives do.

[Bill14564]

It's the risk you take running an ABnB or renting your home out. When things go well you get a house paid for by someone else and life is great! You get a squatter and you lose a lot or just a little. Roll the dice. It's on you.

AbnB's and short term hotel like rentals subject neighbors to risks that $$ making landlords could care less about. I don't feel sorry for home owners rolling the dice and being raked over the coals by squatters. Live and learn - the theives do.

A six month lease is "short term?"

[GizmoWhiskers]

A six month lease is "short term?"
Easier to research backwards. Florida for example: 181 days or more is considered long term rental in FL. Short term can be defined by city or county ordinances but is generally 30 days or less but research would better define that. In a quick glance I saw a couple FL cities that defined str as 14 days or less. I also see where short term rental is different than "vacation" rental. I think vacation rental in FL bridges the gap between long term and short term rental definition.

[jimleas]

Ever see the movie "Pacific Heights"?

I was thinking the same thing. Great movie!

[Trishakaye]

Wow

[Marine1974]

It was on the news channels. Would it be ok with you if I didn’t mention the news channel because it was on several .

[BrianL99]

This story has little or nothing to do with "AirBnB". AirBnB is no different than "Villagers Rent", Craig's List, FaceBook, Zillow or any place else that advertises real estate. AriBnB is simply another website.

It has nothing to do with Short Term Rentals. The original term for rental was 6 months. Housing is regulated by most every state in the USA and regulated by US laws & HUD regulations.

Similar situations arise every day. Once someone has established a building as their "home", the occupancy rules change. In many states, once you stay more than 30 days in a hotel, you become a "resident" and the hotel owner can't throw you out, without a Court Order ... which in some states, could take more than a year to obtain.

I personally have 2 friends, who allowed their girlfriends and their children to move into their homes. They have now been paying for those houses and all the expenses of the houses, for years.

Sensationalism sells newspapers and click-bait hits ... & apparently, ToV interest.

[ron32162]

Wantobe air bnb landlords ,most are novelist kind of like home flippers just enough knowledge to get themselves into costly trouble. The State of Florida has Very different laws than California on tenant rights and with the court system in Florida evictions are one of the things put to the FRONT of the docket. Having a good rental agreement you can have anyone out in 30 to 45 days.

[scooterstang]

I saw the story on News Nation with Laura Ingram made me sick to my stomach!! This female has done this several times to other tenants also. the Dr. That owns the adjoining house can't do a thing to get rid of her. She lives only feet away from his door. Laura Ingram made sure to mention her name repeatedly and show her pic during the interview with the doctors lawyer. He is not allowed to change the locks while she is gone.

[Driller703]

Ever see the movie "Pacific Heights"?

Excellent movie

[retiredguy123]

Off topic, but reminds me of adult kids who just won't leave...
Won't leave? They would leave my house in a minute.

[Get real]

I saw the story on News Nation with Laura Ingram made me sick to my stomach!! This female has done this several times to other tenants also. the Dr. That owns the adjoining house can't do a thing to get rid of her. She lives only feet away from his door. Laura Ingram made sure to mention her name repeatedly and show her pic during the interview with the doctors lawyer. He is not allowed to change the locks while she is gone.

Only in California would there be such a ridiculous law to protect a thief. Ok, maybe NY and Chicago.

[lpkruege1]

In California, a savvy renter has not paid rent for 540 days. The owner of the AirBnb cannot have the person evicted because the home does not meet California compliance. The renter wants $100,000 to leave the residence. Interesting article some investors may want to read. There are nightmare tenants out there. Beware!

Just remember, this is why so many people from California are moving here. Hopefully they don't vote like they did in California. Remember, stupidity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[Hape2Bhr]

I know a neighbor in NY who didn't pay rent for 2 years and after going back and forth to court welfare ended paying the back 2 years of rent only for him to not pay rent for another 2 years before they were finally able to get the Marshall to come and evict him.

So 4 years of free rent. Folks know how to play the system in certain cities.

Fortunately this is personnal knowledge, not something you read in an article.

[Pugchief]

Only in California would there be such a ridiculous law to protect a thief. Ok, maybe NY and Chicago.

Exactly. It's laws that favor tenants over landlords in virtually every situation which are a hallmark in large cities that have "progressive" policies.

[Get real]

Exactly. It's laws that favor tenants over landlords in virtually every situation which are a hallmark in large cities that have "progressive" policies.

I don't feel bad for them because they voted for this insanity. Elections have consequences.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I get that this woman abused the system to get free rent. I think it's atrocious. But you can't blame politics for this. The city has zoning laws. The owner of the property violated the law. If the owner hadn't violated the law, then that tenant wouldn't have been allowed to move in, in the first place. OR, the property would've been brought into compliance, and the tenant wouldn't have been exempt from the eviction process.

Sort of like - you can run a red light. There's nothing physically stopping you from doing so. And if there's no cop to witness it, you'll probably get away with it. But if you run it, and someone its your car - you really can't blame the city for putting the light there. It's your own fault for running it.

The landlord ran the red zoning light. The landlord has only themselves to blame for breaking the rules. As they say: FAFO.

[Kelevision]

It’s like that movie Pacific Heights with MIchael Keaton, Melanie Griffith

[Get real]

I get that this woman abused the system to get free rent. I think it's atrocious. But you can't blame politics for this. The city has zoning laws. The owner of the property violated the law. If the owner hadn't violated the law, then that tenant wouldn't have been allowed to move in, in the first place. OR, the property would've been brought into compliance, and the tenant wouldn't have been exempt from the eviction process.

Sort of like - you can run a red light. There's nothing physically stopping you from doing so. And if there's no cop to witness it, you'll probably get away with it. But if you run it, and someone its your car - you really can't blame the city for putting the light there. It's your own fault for running it.

The landlord ran the red zoning light. The landlord has only themselves to blame for breaking the rules. As they say: FAFO.

Yes and no. She did break the rules but the elected officials put those "protections" for other criminals into the law.

[retiredguy123]

Yes and no. She did break the rules but the elected officials put those "protections" for other criminals into the law.
To me, it's pretty simple. If you own a property and someone is occupying it without a valid lease, you should have the right to force them to leave. Elected officials have no right to protect a squatter with stupid laws.

[Randall55]

Only in California would there be such a ridiculous law to protect a thief. Ok, maybe NY and Chicago.In Florida there are homestead laws. The laws protect tenants just like the laws in California.

[Dusty_Star]

What are the odds that two different people at different times released 'harmful substances into the air"? The first one's release damaged her personal items, & the second one released a harmful substance - according to the article in the Daily Mail. Is this criminal allergic to someone passing gas? The nerve of these property owners.

[Stu from NYC]

To me, it's pretty simple. If you own a property and someone is occupying it without a valid lease, you should have the right to force them to leave. Elected officials have no right to protect a squatter with stupid laws.

Very true. Wonder what would happen if one of these elected officials has to deal with a squatter in rental property they own?

[d1nod1no]

In FL there is an option "Unlawful Detainer". No money awarded but tenant or live in can be lawfully told to leave. I used this to get a relative out of my home.

[Randall55]

In FL there is an option "Unlawful Detainer". No money awarded but tenant or live in can be lawfully told to leave. I used this to get a relative out of my home.Did you have to go to court to do it?

[Get real]

In Florida there are homestead laws. The laws protect tenants just like the laws in California.

Not to the insane extent as Kalifornia.