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Rainger99
10-10-2023, 07:37 AM
There has been a power outage in the Sawgrass area. I called duke energy and they said that more than 1000 homes have lost power.

They “expect” power to be restored in 3 hours. No explanation for the outage.

Rainger99
10-10-2023, 07:51 AM
Power has been restored but no explanation for power outage.

pikeselectric
10-10-2023, 07:53 AM
There has been a power outage in the Sawgrass area. I called duke energy and they said that more than 1000 homes have lost power.

They “expect” power to be restored in 3 hours. No explanation for the outage.

At this point what we are hearing/seeing is a possible object striking power lines either overhead or underground.

Bogie Shooter
10-10-2023, 08:27 AM
Oh, I feel so much better knowing what caused the outage?

ThirdOfFive
10-10-2023, 08:31 AM
There has been a power outage in the Sawgrass area. I called duke energy and they said that more than 1000 homes have lost power.

They “expect” power to be restored in 3 hours. No explanation for the outage.
A fair amount of construction going on in that area. Likely a line was inadvertently compromised.

CoachKandSportsguy
10-10-2023, 09:34 AM
They “expect” power to be restored in 3 hours. No explanation for the outage.

Most state regulators don't require the power companies to explain outages to customers, they do require the utility companies to focus on informing the customers on the time to restoration for the customers' planning purposes.

There are ways to find it, but does it really matter, other than curiosity?

Stu from NYC
10-10-2023, 12:39 PM
Most state regulators don't require the power companies to explain outages to customers, they do require the utility companies to focus on informing the customers on the time to restoration for the customers' planning purposes.

There are ways to find it, but does it really matter, other than curiosity?

When it happened to us about 5 times in a bit over a year it sure did. Got our local assemblyman involved and very quickly outages stopped.

Rainger99
10-10-2023, 12:39 PM
Most state regulators don't require the power companies to explain outages to customers, they do require the utility companies to focus on informing the customers on the time to restoration for the customers' planning purposes.

There are ways to find it, but does it really matter, other than curiosity?

We lost power on a clear day - no storms and no wind. That is very unusual. I have never lost power other than during a major storm.

I - and I think most people - would like to know why the power went out. If we know the reason - was it because of a power line down, poor maintenance, someone throwing the wrong switch at the plant, or because they don't have enough power because of all of the new construction in the Villages and are doing brownouts - we can talk to Duke (and the regulators) and hopefully prevent it from happening again.

Public utilities should be accountable to the public.

pikeselectric
10-10-2023, 01:04 PM
We lost power on a clear day - no storms and no wind. That is very unusual. I have never lost power other than during a major storm.

I - and I think most people - would like to know why the power went out. If we know the reason - was it because of a power line down, poor maintenance, someone throwing the wrong switch at the plant, or because they don't have enough power because of all of the new construction in the Villages and are doing brownouts - we can talk to Duke (and the regulators) and hopefully prevent it from happening again.

Public utilities should be accountable to the public.

Agree, I will say Duke Energy worked FAST this morning on this issue. It was a widespread outage of thousands, resolved within an hour. They must have been close by or on site/related to construction in the area. It is always good to know, peaking curiousity, what caused the sudden outage.

CoachKandSportsguy
10-10-2023, 01:09 PM
We lost power on a clear day - no storms and no wind. That is very unusual. I have never lost power other than during a major storm.

Public utilities should be accountable to the public.

Public utilities are accountable to the state regulator, your public representative, other than in TX, which is a third world utility system.

They may not be required to give a reason to the general public, but all outages with reasons are documented with outage time, and restored time, and submitted to the regulator. I checked the outage log at my mom's house here in MA, and the most frequent issue were squirrels. . .

Down in TV, most likely reasons are construction related, as there are no poles to damage with cars. An example of working at the utility company powering our MA house during a storm, we were without power for 48 hours, and I was working storm duty. I asked the transmission engineer in charge of the storm room about it since everyone else was lit up.

The answer was in internal paperwork / pole & transformer blueprints weren't up to date in the library and the contractors couldn't perform the fix needed, and so it was delayed 24 hours to get the correct blue print, and then re-assign internal employees to fix the problem.

Do you really think that SECO is going to admit that to you, the public?

Again, its just your curiosity of abnormality of visible cause which has you wanting an answer. . . and in reality, the cause doesn't really matter, there are hundreds of potential causes of which you can't do anything about.. it just happened because there are hoomans involved again.

After working in the industry, the people are very dedicated to maintaining and fixing the system as quickly as safely possible, as they know the implication of not having electricity -> the world stops working. And safety is a huge concern working with high voltages, and linemen are killed each year when they make a mistake.

Kenswing
10-10-2023, 02:06 PM
Good grief! We lost power for a whopping 20 minutes. This is the first time in the 2.5 years we’ve lived here that our power has gone out. Duke is the most reliable utility that we’ve ever had. I really don’t care why the power went out. What I do care about is that Duke sent out a text message saying that they were aware of the problem before I even opened their app to report the outage. I just can’t imagine getting upset over something so trivial.

photo1902
10-10-2023, 02:51 PM
Oh, I feel so much better knowing what caused the outage?

Were you affected by the outage?

Bogie Shooter
10-10-2023, 04:35 PM
Were you affected by the outage?

No, but I was highly concerned about why it happened......not.

I think kenswing covered it quite well, in post #11.

keepsake
10-10-2023, 08:01 PM
Don't worry if we ever have an EMP the transformers blown will be shipped on a slow boat from China later in the week.

Aces4
10-10-2023, 08:32 PM
Haven’t been here in awhile, I’m quite surprised by all the snarky answers or is this just the new world?:(

Rainger99
10-10-2023, 08:52 PM
Haven’t been here in awhile, I’m quite surprised by all the snarky answers or is this just the new world?:(

If you are surprised by the snarky answers, you haven’t been here in awhile!

RICH1
10-11-2023, 04:36 AM
One of the poles sunk into the marsh and pulled a Line Fuse …

asianthree
10-11-2023, 05:12 AM
Don't worry if we ever have an EMP the transformers blown will be shipped on a slow boat from China later in the week.

Ya mean the large acreage of Duke storage area of everything power on Powell Road, is really in China? I know that’s it’s a big storage area, but to reach China, their taxes should decrease the farther back it goes:girlneener:

txfan
10-11-2023, 05:49 AM
No, but I was highly concerned about why it happened......not.

I think kenswing covered it quite well, in post #11.

And you didn't in Post #4 !

Whitley
10-11-2023, 07:26 AM
[QUOTE=CoachKandSportsguy;2264272]Public utilities are accountable to the state regulator, your public representative, other than in TX, which is a third world utility system.

They may not be required to give a reason to the general public, but all outages with reasons are documented with outage time, and restored time, and submitted to the regulator. I checked the outage log at my mom's house here in MA, and the most frequent issue were squirrels. . .



It has been many years since I was active, however back then (90's) I kept hearing how vulnerable our grid is to sabotage/terrorism. Is that still the case? If so is anything being done to harden it?

chorndawg
10-11-2023, 08:57 AM
Regardless of the reason for outage, let’s hope that no one was injured in this incident this morning. If it wasn’t a “planned “ outage, it was most likely an “accidental “ outage. Having spent over 30 years in this line of work, I can tell you, if someone was injured, I’m sure they are sorry you were inconvenienced….SMH

OhioBuckeye
10-11-2023, 09:16 AM
This is what one of my complaints about EV’s, did these EV owners get there EV’s charged before the outage so they can go to work or run there errands! What if the power outage would be for a week or 2. Your EV will be useless! Just something to think about. I’m definitely keeping my combustible car.

mikeycereal
10-11-2023, 09:39 AM
Having grown up in Hawaii, this is a nothing burger. Looks like the eco was on it pretty quick which is nice to know. Not always that way on an island.

Bill14564
10-11-2023, 09:58 AM
This is what one of my complaints about EV’s, did these EV owners get there EV’s charged before the outage so they can go to work or run there errands! What if the power outage would be for a week or 2. Your EV will be useless! Just something to think about. I’m definitely keeping my combustible car.

Yes, those EV owners were able to charge their batteries for the several hours before the outage. If the outage was for a week or two then they would charge their EVs in whatever town they were staying in while waiting for power to be restored.

In the 1970s there was a fuel shortage, gasoline rationing, and long lines at the pumps. I do not recall electrical power outages. I bet many people would have preferred a vehicle that did not rely on gasoline during that time.

If the war in Israel expands then it is possible the oil supply will be affected. If the US gets into the war then there could be higher demands for fuel at the same time there are limitations on the supply. This could theoretically lead to gasoline shortages again. My 5 gallon can of fuel will keep my cart running for a couple of weeks. My 110V outlet will keep my electric cart running indefinitely.

CoachKandSportsguy
10-11-2023, 10:58 AM
It has been many years since I was active, however back then (90's) I kept hearing how vulnerable our grid is to sabotage/terrorism. Is that still the case?

umm, very much so! it would be a poor assumption to think that the most important aspect of modern daily life would not have constantly updated protection as time progresses.

There are two types: physical and technological.

physical security increase has recently seen more attention due to easy access and non complex attack profiles, and an increase in attacks. That is more focused now because the technological is so hard to penetrate today

technological has been ongoing since 9/11 in accelerated fashion, and is much more secure, but never perfect, and always continuing to improve.

a complete grid failure or massive destruction of portions is the worst possible outcome, currently thought to be very, very low probability. However, if that were to ever happen, all the people with investment mortgage arbitrage might be in for a big surprise.

Keefelane66
10-11-2023, 12:14 PM
umm, very much so! it would be a poor assumption to think that the most important aspect of modern daily life would not have constantly updated protection as time progresses.

There are two types: physical and technological.

physical security increase has recently seen more attention due to easy access and non complex attack profiles, and an increase in attacks. That is more focused now because the technological is so hard to penetrate today

technological has been ongoing since 9/11 in accelerated fashion, and is much more secure, but never perfect, and always continuing to improve.

a complete grid failure or massive destruction of portions is the worst possible outcome, currently thought to be very, very low probability. However, if that were to ever happen, all the people with investment mortgage arbitrage might be in for a big surprise.
They walk amongst us.
Extremists keep trying to trigger mass blackouts — and that’s not even the scariest part - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/10/power-grid-attacks-00114563)

CoachKandSportsguy
10-11-2023, 04:15 PM
They walk amongst us.
Extremists keep trying to trigger mass blackouts — and that’s not even the scariest part - POLITICO (https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/10/power-grid-attacks-00114563)

yeah, they are the 30 watt bulbs among us

shut the front door
10-11-2023, 04:37 PM
Haven’t been here in awhile, I’m quite surprised by all the snarky answers or is this just the new world?:(

Don't know where you're from, but a 15 minute power outage in most places in the country don't warrant 36 hours of message board posts.

Maybe it's just me, I have a life.

Dusty_Star
10-11-2023, 05:12 PM
Thanks for the info on the power outage.

Bilyclub
10-11-2023, 08:46 PM
Today there was an outage at Trailwinds Plaza in the afternoon. Don't know how long it lasted, but it definitely messed up the lunch crowd.

jimdecastro
10-12-2023, 05:58 AM
There has been a power outage in the Sawgrass area. I called duke energy and they said that more than 1000 homes have lost power.

They “expect” power to be restored in 3 hours. No explanation for the outage.

Not a word in The Daily Sun.

Bogie Shooter
10-12-2023, 06:15 AM
Not a word in The Daily Sun.

Nothing on the evening news from any if the Orlando TV stations.

Bill14564
10-12-2023, 06:27 AM
Not a word in The Daily Sun.

Nothing on the evening news from any if the Orlando TV stations.

Haven't seen anything in the WaPo, WSJ, NYT, FoxNews, or TBT either. Quite a coverup.

OhioBuckeye
10-12-2023, 07:27 AM
Bill14654, I under stand your point but power outages come when you don’t know when you’re going to have a power outage. So to charge them where you are, you’re probably at home. Gas isn’t my point, to put it simple, you’re at home! Not where you are, where’s that? But I see your point too!

ThirdOfFive
10-12-2023, 07:29 AM
If you are surprised by the snarky answers, you haven’t been here in awhile!
Heh. Does seem to be somewhat of an uptick in the snark. Usually from posters who have very few or no posts to their credit.

But in all honesty, this place is Miss Manners exemplified compared to that other "publication", identifiable here only via ******* *****.

Altavia
10-12-2023, 07:41 AM
Community Alert-power outages

October 12, 2023 at 8:35:31 AM EDT
Multiple power outages throughout Sumter County, please remember that intersections without traffic lights or law enforcement directing traffic should be treated as a four way stop. Energy companies are aware and responding.

View Image(s) at:
https://cdn.myocv.com/ocvapps/a26234785/files/6527e813614cc-IMG_0180.jpeg

Shared from the Sumter County Sheriff's Office app at Sumter County Sheriff's Office (FL)
App Store Links (https://apps.myocv.com/share/a26234785)

https://stormcenter.secoenergy.com/

CoachKandSportsguy
10-12-2023, 07:42 AM
Haven't seen anything in the WaPo, WSJ, NYT, FoxNews, or TBT either. Quite a coverup.

:boom:
:mademyday:

Rodneysblue
10-12-2023, 03:01 PM
Oh, I feel so much better knowing what caused the outage?

Well last time it was a traffic accident that caused an outage about a month and half ago. I hope who ever was involved were not hurt. So I hope it was something other than that.

asianthree
10-12-2023, 03:42 PM
Today Stoplights out on 44, as well as banks in Pinellas plaza. Some of Brownwood and Part of Richmond out of power.

Nothing in the DS ( delivered at 0355:shrug:)

But educated guess, it was the weather :pepper2:

Aces4
10-13-2023, 02:47 PM
Don't know where you're from, but a 15 minute power outage in most places in the country don't warrant 36 hours of message board posts.

Maybe it's just me, I have a life.

The area of the country I am from permits free speech and choice. The poster gets to pose their question without intimidation and you get to ignore it and move on. We all have lives, how about a little respect.