How did everyone celebratw indigenous peoples day yesterday?

[Gpsma]

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

[ThirdOfFive]

Why is it so important to celebrate where we come from?

Isn't it far more important to concentrate on where we're going?

[Tvflguy]

Had some Indian food.

[golfing eagles]

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

I honored Christopher Columbus and his brave crew, as well as Isabella and Ferdinand for sending him. I then ate AMERICAN food on the land THAT I OWN and reflected on the absurdity of revisionist history on COLUMBUS DAY.

[Stu from NYC]

Visited our daughter

[Stu from NYC]

Next year will have corn on the cob.
Why do we not credit the vikings?

[JerryLBell]

I celebrated by having a nice conversation with an old friend of mine who is of indigenous ancestry. He told me he celebrated by going into a white guys house, planting a flag and claiming the lands on which the house stood as property of his nation's people.

When we lived closer together, we would celebrate by going to an Indian restaurant and ordering buffalo and maize (corn) but usually had to settle for Chicken Tika Marsala or some such.

Columbus certainly didn't discover the Americas (and thought he'd been to India several times) and open a path or horrific atrocities agains the peoples of these continents, but I'm selfishly glad enough the he opened up to Europeans so that I was able to be born here as an American. Still, a true understanding of our history is so embarassing and shameful that it's no wonder that some folks can't bear to teach even a fraction of it to the children of this country and claim any attempt to do so is part of some radical "woke" agenda. Some people say slavery is the original American sin. What does that make the genocide of the peoples of these lands that preceded the enslavement of kidnapped Africans? The "pre-original" sin?

Gee, that went dark in a hurry, didn't it? I guess I'm depressed over what's happening in Israel and Gaza. And what's continuing to happen in Ukraine. It is all giving me a bit of a dim view of the world at the moment.

[manaboutown]

Next year will have corn on the cob.
Why do we not credit the vikings?

Actually I used to enjoy Indian fry bread at the New Mexico State Fair. Authentic Indian Fry Bread (https://thestayathomechef.com/authentic-indian-fry-bread/)

Yes, the Norsemen were likely the first Europeans to set foot in North America but they did not stick around.

As I understand it the Americas were initially settled by people migrating from Asia across the Bering Strait which may have been bridged by ice or land strips from time to time. They arrived in waves over thousands of years. Recently discovered footprints at White Sands National Monument appear to predate the consensus as to when the Americas were first settled by Homo sapiens.

White Sands fossil footprints challenge notions about human history : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2023/10/05/1203982651/white-sands-fossil-footprints-challenge-notions-about-human-history)

Who knows if today's American Indian population descended from the earliest waves or whether consequential waves wiped them out or partially absorbed them. Maybe someday it will become understood.

[Two Bills]

I feel no guilt or remorse for the perceived crimes of my ancestors.
What they did then was the norm for those times.
Looking at the pictures coming out of Ukraine, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, human behavior hasn't progressed much either
Mind you, we have improved, because we can do it on a much bigger scale, and more efficiently than our ancestors could have ever dreamed possible!

[Topspinmo]

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage


So, where do you think you can live where land wasn’t stolen at one time or another?

Hasn’t it been proven Columbus wasn’t first to discover America? What about Viking day? Before long there won’t be enough days to celebrate anymore.

[Topspinmo]

I feel no guilt or remorse for the perceived crimes of my ancestors.
What they did then was the norm for those times.
Looking at the pictures coming out of Ukraine, Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, human behavior hasn't progressed much either
Mind you, we have improved, because we can do it on a much bigger scale, and more efficiently than our ancestors could have ever dreamed possible!


Genghiskhan khan done pretty good job. And Spain done pretty good job on South America.

[jimbomaybe]

Genghiskhan khan done pretty good job. And Spain done pretty good job on South America.
Human beings are omnivores, eat whatever they (we) can get , including somebody else's lunch, take advantage of other groups disadvantaged situation, competition thins the herd and sharpens the predatory instinct

[ThirdOfFive]

Human beings are omnivores, eat whatever they (we) can get , including somebody else's lunch, take advantage of other groups disadvantaged situation, competition thins the herd and sharpens the predatory instinct
We do share some pretty questionable attributes with the other primates. Plotting to take something that isn't ours is just one.

Some years back my wife and I were vacationing with "the family" (20 or so people including the kids) on the southern coast of Thailand. Beautiful setting: mountainous rain forests, several resorts. Also quite a few macaque monkeys. We rented a compound of three cabins: it was late morning after breakfast and we were all outside when a troop of macaques showed up. Maybe 10-15 including a couple of very young ones, cute as hell. They stayed just behind the trees surrounding the compound, watching us. We tossed some tidbits to the little ones who showed no fear at all, coming almost up to us to get the stuff. The adults stayed back though, all except one, looked to be the guy in charge, perched on the roof of one of the cabins looking for all the world like Yogi Berra crouched behind the plate. We tossed some balls of rice to him which he adeptly caught and ate. Great fun. We took some pictures.

Just before noon we menfolk went on a beer run. According to the women, as soon as we left the monkeys swooped on in, chased the women and kids into the cabins and gorged on everything left out on the tables.

Never yet met a monkey that I trusted.

[asianthree]

I visited the mounded graves of my great grandmother, her mother, and her two sisters. My great grandfathers body was never found, so we are sure he roams freely.
I remember my great grandmother and her horrible memories of finding her two aunts hanging in the barn from the rafters, cause they were native.

I was raised with knowledge of herbs, and treated with guidance from a shaman. Never saw a physician until I was 18.

The cemetery has remained the same for multi generations. I think of them with every sunrise.

The wrought iron gate still lists it as the Red cemetery, next to the beloved Coon cemetery.

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Why is it so important to celebrate where we come from?

Isn't it far more important to concentrate on where we're going?

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” – George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

and later:

In a 1948 speech to the British House of Commons, Winston Churchill said, “Those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.”

It's pointless to concentrate on where you're going, if you aren't interested in understanding where you came from.

[Decadeofdave]

Took a ride to the capital of Ohio, Indigenous Ohio
Live in the moment, but remember the past.

[manaboutown]

I honored Christopher Columbus and his brave crew, as well as Isabella and Ferdinand for sending him. I then ate AMERICAN food on the land THAT I OWN and reflected on the absurdity of revisionist history on COLUMBUS DAY.

Me too! And I did so on Columbus Day which was not yesterday (Wednesday). Columbus Day was Monday.

[Chi-Town]

I took the day off.

[Topspinmo]

I took the day off.

I take everyday off :mademyday:

[Robnlaura]

No one needs halal anything

I made a nice indigeonous stew of elk meat….bought from a place in orlando

I also reflected anout history…and regret that i have lived in homes on land stolen.

I also prayed about the evils of chistopher columbus

But whether its columbus day or imdigenous peoples day..we all need to celebrate our heritage

[Bay Kid]

Another man made paid holiday. We could of celebrated on Saturday or Sunday. Nope, let's pay people not to go to work.

[mrf0151]

Gun range. Lots of 9mm and even more fun 1911 45 is a real kick, in a good way.

[Byte1]

I found that there was quite a few folks that did not realize that it was Columbus day. Personally, I did not care because the Fed holiday does not benefit me anymore, now that I am retired and every day is a holiday. I did have a conversation (unrelated) with a family member about how stupid we thought the WOKE folks are. Just a personal opinion. We wondered how naive this country is and how weak it has become when we related America today to how different we respond to the Israeli conflict going on right now. Yesteryear America would have immediately responded with force. Now, we seem to wonder how America can avoid any involvement.
Like someone said in earlier posts, what was done in the past does not mean we need to take the blame or responsibility for it. Even so, if our folks did not come from Europe, we wouldn't be here enjoying this rich country and our prosperity. I am not ashamed for something someone else perpetrated. I am not my brother's keeper.

[PugMom]

I honored Christopher Columbus and his brave crew, as well as Isabella and Ferdinand for sending him. I then ate AMERICAN food on the land THAT I OWN and reflected on the absurdity of revisionist history on COLUMBUS DAY.

:boom::clap2:

[karostay]

Why is it so important to celebrate where we come from?

Isn't it far more important to concentrate on where we're going?

Hell in the end Jerimiah ( Del Que )

[retiredguy123]

I was surprised that the Sumter County library was open on Columbus Day, a Federal holiday. I looked it up, and Sumter County only observes 8 of the 11 official Federal holidays. They don't observe Columbus Day, Washington's Birthday, and Juneteenth.

[Stu from NYC]

Next year will smoke pipe of peace.

[Byte1]

Next year will smoke pipe of peace.

Probably get better effect using bong.:a040:

[manaboutown]

Next year will smoke pipe of peace.

Or take some peyote. When I was an undergraduate one fraternity brother experimented with it. He experienced colorful bright visions but the peyote upset his stomach so much he vomited first, which he expected. He was pre-med and went on to become an MD and a professor at an Ivy League medical school, a very, very smart guy who lived a little dangerously. He enjoyed riding motorcycles.

"Under the auspices of what came to be known as the Native American Church, in the 19th century, American Indians in more widespread regions to the north began to use peyote in religious practices, as part of a revival of native spirituality. Its members refer to peyote as "the sacred medicine", and use it to combat spiritual, physical, and other social ills. Concerned about the drug's psychoactive effects, between the 1880s and 1930s, U.S. authorities attempted to ban Native American religious rituals involving peyote, including the Ghost Dance. Today the Native American Church is one among several religious organizations to use peyote as part of its religious practice. Some users claim the drug connects them to God."

Peyote - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peyote)

[RICH1]

Sorry to hear about your Family and terrible experiences…

[tophcfa]

What is indigenous peoples day?

[golfing eagles]

What is indigenous peoples day?

idiotic woke new name for Columbus Day

[coffeebean]

I had NO idea the Columbus Day has been celebrated on the second Monday of October since 1972. I have always thought Columbus Day was celebrated on October 12th. I guess I haven't been paying attention! Where have I been for the last 51 years???

[retiredguy123]

I had NO idea the Columbus Day has been celebrated on the second Monday of October since 1972. I have always thought Columbus Day was celebrated on October 12th. I guess I haven't been paying attention! Where have I been for the last 51 years???
The Federal Government will often change the date of some holidays to a Monday so the employees can get 3-day weekend.

[coffeebean]

The Federal Government will often change the date of some holidays to a Monday so the employees can get 3-day weekend.
I do understand that. I just didn't know this was done for Columbus Day. That is how much I pay attention. NOT!

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I found that there was quite a few folks that did not realize that it was Columbus day. Personally, I did not care because the Fed holiday does not benefit me anymore, now that I am retired and every day is a holiday. I did have a conversation (unrelated) with a family member about how stupid we thought the WOKE folks are. Just a personal opinion. We wondered how naive this country is and how weak it has become when we related America today to how different we respond to the Israeli conflict going on right now. Yesteryear America would have immediately responded with force. Now, we seem to wonder how America can avoid any involvement.
Like someone said in earlier posts, what was done in the past does not mean we need to take the blame or responsibility for it. Even so, if our folks did not come from Europe, we wouldn't be here enjoying this rich country and our prosperity. I am not ashamed for something someone else perpetrated. I am not my brother's keeper.

Cool. I had a conversation with a family member and 1820 of my very best friends on twitter about how stupid we all thought conservatives are. Just a personal opinion. We wondered how gullible this country is and how weak it has become when we related America today to how it was in the 1960's, when people came together of all colors, creeds, nationalities, cultures, sexual preferences, to embrace the concept of "make love, not war" and world peace where everyone voluntarily contributed what they could afford, to help out our brothers and sisters who couldn't afford. We absolutely considered ourselves our brothers' keeper. Collectively.

Funny how them thar ign't trailer trash Qanon conservatives have ruined it for everyone.

[golfing eagles]

Cool. I had a conversation with a family member and 1820 of my very best friends on twitter about how stupid we all thought conservatives are. Just a personal opinion. We wondered how gullible this country is and how weak it has become when we related America today to how it was in the 1960's, when people came together of all colors, creeds, nationalities, cultures, sexual preferences, to embrace the concept of "make love, not war" and world peace where everyone voluntarily contributed what they could afford, to help out our brothers and sisters who couldn't afford. We absolutely considered ourselves our brothers' keeper. Collectively.

Funny how them thar ign't trailer trash Qanon conservatives have ruined it for everyone.

Well, let's just say none of us are surprised by that

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

Well, let's just say none of us are surprised by that

You should be. I wasn't even born until 1961. But what doesn't surprise me is that you didn't understand my response, which was a parody of the post I responded. That post was written by someone who insulted an entire demographic of members of this forum by calling people who embrace differences and are sensitive to inequality "stupid."

But thanks for proving my point :)

[fdpaq0580]

idiotic woke new name for Columbus Day

I thought "top" was making a joke. No need to insult indigenous people on their day of remembrance.
(By the way, WOKE is when you are aware of the reality of life and the world around you. The antithesis of WOKE is ASLEEP.)

[golfing eagles]

You should be. I wasn't even born until 1961. But what doesn't surprise me is that you didn't understand my response, which was a parody of the post I responded. That post was written by someone who insulted an entire demographic of members of this forum by calling people who embrace differences and are sensitive to inequality "stupid."

But thanks for proving my point :)

Actually, I completely understood that post

[golfing eagles]

I thought "top" was making a joke. No need to insult indigenous people on their day of remembrance.
(By the way, WOKE is when you are aware of the reality of life and the world around you. The antithesis of WOKE is ASLEEP.)

First of all, I wasn't insulting indigenous people. It isn't their day of remembrance, it's a contrived holiday instituted by the forerunners of what we call "woke" today---
"It began as a counter-celebration held on the same day as the U.S. federal holiday of Columbus Day, which honors Italian explorer Christopher Columbus. Some people reject celebrating him, claiming that he represents "the violent history of the colonization in the Western Hemisphere".[2]

Secondly, don't delude us or yourself---we all know what "woke" means, and it certainly is not the opposite of asleep in this context.