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MrLonzo
10-14-2023, 09:48 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

Keefelane66
10-14-2023, 09:54 AM
Plastic Push Pull Water Valve Problem: Causes & Solutions Discussed! (https://plumbingzones.com/plastic-push-pull-water-valve-problem/)

rjm1cc
10-14-2023, 09:55 AM
YES Push in and pull out to turn off and on.

retiredguy123
10-14-2023, 10:18 AM
YES Push in and pull out to turn off and on.
The opposite. Pull out to turn off and push in to turn on.

fishon
10-14-2023, 10:23 AM
Use two hands. They are breakable.

JohnN
10-14-2023, 10:48 AM
When I had Mike Scott Plumbing out for something else, I had those cheap fittings replaced with traditional metal shut-off valves.

Dusty_Star
10-14-2023, 12:15 PM
Additionally there should be a whole house water shut off valve in the garage.

coffeebean
10-14-2023, 01:40 PM
When I had Mike Scott Plumbing out for something else, I had those cheap fittings replaced with traditional metal shut-off valves.

That is what we did also with all the on/off valves in the house, including the water line for the fridge.

Topspinmo
10-14-2023, 02:14 PM
But they are easy to replace with shark bit. IMO vinyl hose the weakest link after 20 or so years.

Topspinmo
10-14-2023, 02:18 PM
When I had Mike Scott Plumbing out for something else, I had those cheap fittings replaced with traditional metal shut-off valves.


Probably push on shut-off valves. Like they did mine. Which way why I had licensed plumber do mine to get rid of them. But just installed another brand. After that I done rest myself.

Topspinmo
10-14-2023, 02:29 PM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?


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I have these in my house. Beings they are approaching 20 years old I don’t feel comfortable due to vinyl hose breakdown. Had plumber do kitchen sink faucet so I got rid of them under kitchen sink.

Watched video on pressure/freeze test of shark bite push-on fittings. The pipe failed every time before the push-on valves, plus they didn’t even leak. Plus the shark bite has steel braided hose instead of vinyl.

So, I am replacing my old vinyl Accor push/pulls with shark bite. I like them cause you can easily remove them without twisting and twisting using the dollar removal tool. I also brought the depth gauge, really didn’t need that just make 1 inch mark on tube for 1/2 inch CPVC so you know it’s pushed on all the way.

This was the the easiest plumbing installation I even done. No drip, no leaks, no errors.

I wouldn’t use them inside wall or under ground or where you can’t see or have access to fitting, but that’s me. Yes, I’m old school plumbing mentality, but when I watched the pressure test every joint, fitting, and line (including copper) failed before the shark bite fitting even leaked let along blew off. I would post pictures but for some reason I can’t post or delete pictures on this site.

When I looked closely under the sink that I paid over 250 bucks for plumber guess what I seen push on valves!
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This should explain it or search several posts about them.

BrianL99
10-14-2023, 02:39 PM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

A quality builder will always supply a "User Manual" with construction. They're especially needed with Commercial construction, but residential buyers need them also.

That said, you're not going to get that type of quality from a builder in TV ... you're getting cookie-cutter, mass production construction.

MrLonzo
10-14-2023, 03:29 PM
Thank you!
I found this on YouTube
plastic push pull water valves - Bing video (https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=plastic%20push%20pull%20water%20val ves&mid=6D0BB717CA5C73F2E3086D0BB717CA5C73F2E308&ajaxhist=0)

Stu from NYC
10-14-2023, 04:36 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

Bill14564
10-14-2023, 04:50 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

$1,000 would be about $150 for parts, $150 for profit on the parts, and $700 for labor. Even at $100/hour it doesn't seem like the job would take seven hours.

Probably not a bad idea to replace them (I have not but I'm thinking about it) but definitely worth getting additional quotes.

Kenswing
10-14-2023, 05:19 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?
Get quotes from Mike Scott and CPM Plumbing. My neighbor just had all their plastic valves replaced for under $500 on a new-ish Designer home.

Topspinmo
10-14-2023, 05:49 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

They can all easily be replaced with shark bite for less than 100 dollars i(maybe more now with inflation) if you have some knowledge. Search for my old post explains everything With utube video on how to remove them. Mine was an 20 years old before I replaced them. They had no signs of leaks, but I was afraid the vinyl hose was deteriorating only reason I replaced them .

Keefelane66
10-14-2023, 06:32 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?
Shutoff valves are less than $10 at Home Depot

retiredguy123
10-14-2023, 08:42 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?
If it is not broken, don't fix it. But, if you do, find a better price.

Sandy and Ed
10-15-2023, 04:57 AM
Use two hands. They are breakable.
Suggest you replace all with standard valves.

Sandy and Ed
10-15-2023, 04:58 AM
Additionally there should be a whole house water shut off valve in the garage.
Suggest you replace this with a lever handle valve. The one they give you can be very hard to turn over tine

bowlingal
10-15-2023, 05:03 AM
a handyman can change these out for a MUCH cheaper price. No need to call a plumber.

Sandy and Ed
10-15-2023, 05:05 AM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?
Yes but certainly not for $100 each. Call Roger A Pearce. 352 572-8954. He did ours. You will be pleasantly surprised with his price to convert all of your push/pull valves

thevillagernie
10-15-2023, 05:22 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

try to support the valve when you push or pull if you don't the whole valve will come away from the wall.

lpkruege1
10-15-2023, 06:03 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

I have a 2006 home. I had counter tops in my house replaced. Everyone the plumber attempted to shut off, leaked after he turned them back on. They all had to be replaced. Now I just turn off the main to do any and all plumbing. No more leaks after plumbing work.

Glewellen
10-15-2023, 06:42 AM
Ours are out for off. In for on.

matandch
10-15-2023, 06:49 AM
Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.

matandch
10-15-2023, 07:00 AM
Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.

Cassieb
10-15-2023, 07:04 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?


They are cheap builders valves that tend to leak or even break. I replaced all of mine myself. Remember to replace the one supplying water to your fridge.

BrianL99
10-15-2023, 07:20 AM
a handyman can change these out for a MUCH cheaper price. No need to call a plumber.

Oh sure. Hire an amateur, who's unlicensed and uninsured.

Looking for the "MUCH cheaper" price, always seems to work out so well.

Ritagoyer
10-15-2023, 07:59 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?
You need to watch the ones in the kitchen. When you pull out the kitchen faucet the loop under the sink will catch on the push pull values and you could break them.

millegn
10-15-2023, 08:00 AM
Get quotes from Mike Scott and CPM Plumbing. My neighbor just had all their plastic valves replaced for under $500 on a new-ish Designer home.

I would like to have all mine replaced. Who did your neighbor have do the work?

retiredguy123
10-15-2023, 08:21 AM
Note that the typical Villages house has about 10 of these shutoff valves. If you have all of them replaced, make sure the new valves are not leaking. Any valve can leak. I still have the original plastic valves, and, so far, none have leaked. I also have a battery operated water alarm under the sinks, toilets, refrigerator, washer, and water heater. You can buy about 6-8 of these alarms from Amazon for less than $100. A slow leak will sound off an alarm in your house when there is one-sixteenth inch of water on the floor. Cheap peace of mind.

noodlemaker
10-15-2023, 08:50 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

they are push and pull shut off valves.

RRGuyNJ
10-15-2023, 09:05 AM
Oh sure. Hire an amateur, who's unlicensed and uninsured.

Looking for the "MUCH cheaper" price, always seems to work out so well.

I kind of agree with you, but then look at the cheap crap and crappy installs they are doing. Brand new homes that are not cheap by any means should never be finished with this ultra low quality product. The licensed contractors that build in the first place don't do the greatest quality work considering the way things move around inside the walls when it comes to these valves! A few straps here and there would hurt at all!

metoo21
10-15-2023, 09:34 AM
Note that the typical Villages house has about 10 of these shutoff valves.

I have 17 of these to replace. Don't forget the garage sink and behind the refrigerator.

I ordered these last week: Brasscraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve (https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-CPVC-Inlet-x-3-8-in-Comp-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Ball-Valve-KTPR19X-C1/205214450). They have a metal ball valve and glue onto the PCVC. I don't trust shark bite - which is the same type of connection as these popup valves. Should you ever need to replace these, the valve body will unscrew from the CPVC "adapter" part of the valve.

Although this video shows removal on copper pipe, the same technique works on CPVC. Pipe is in better condition after removal than if you spin off the valve.
Super Easy Replacement of plastic valve (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgdPq05eqeM&t=417s)

BrianL99
10-15-2023, 09:36 AM
I kind of agree with you, but then look at the cheap crap and crappy installs they are doing. Brand new homes that are not cheap by any means should never be finished with this ultra low quality product. The licensed contractors that build in the first place don't do the greatest quality work considering the way things move around inside the walls when it comes to these valves! A few straps here and there would hurt at all!

In case you haven't noticed, no one has ever accused The Village's Developer of being a quality builder. They throw up junk, as fast and as cheaply as they can.

For most builders, "Building Code" is a bare minimum level of professionalism. For TV builds, "Code" is moving target.

maggie1
10-15-2023, 09:48 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

I have replaced all these valves in our patio villa with a shark bite valve. I'm no plumber, but this was one of the easiest DIY projects I've ever addressed. There is a way the valve can slide off of the pipe, but I found it easier to simply use a small pipe cutter to cut the valve, remove it, and then slide the shark bite valve onto the pipe. Be sure to use a braided metal replacement line from the valve to the faucet or you will be defeating the purpose of having a leakproof system.

Shark bites are available at Ace Hardware, but I was able to purchase several of them in a package through Amazon at a much cheaper rate. I've also replaced all of the valves for my neighbor, so I've become pretty proficient with this project.

BrianL99
10-15-2023, 10:07 AM
I'm no plumber,


Shark bites are available at Ace Hardware, but I was able to purchase several of them in a package through Amazon at a much cheaper rate. I've also replaced all of the valves for my neighbor, so I've become pretty proficient with this project.

You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.

NoMoSno
10-15-2023, 10:30 AM
You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.
Mike Scott Plumbing replaced my water heater using shark bite fittings.
I guess they are not real plumbers?

metoo21
10-15-2023, 10:33 AM
You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.

And at least some DIY'ers :beer3:

ron32162
10-15-2023, 10:35 AM
Its called a accident waiting to happen, cheep and quick to install.

BrianL99
10-15-2023, 10:36 AM
Mike Scott Plumbing replaced my water heater using shark bite fittings.
I guess they are not real plumbers?

There you go!

If the shoe fits.

Bill14564
10-15-2023, 10:48 AM
You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.

Looking at the mechanical design, yes this is an improvement over the original installation.

Looking at the alternative for installing a brass fitting on a PVC pipe, the Sharkbite looks to have a better chance of success.

Looking at the number of post noting successful installations compared to the number mentioning problems, the Sharbite seems to be reliable.

metoo21
10-15-2023, 11:01 AM
Looking at the alternative for installing a brass fitting on a PVC pipe, the Sharkbite looks to have a better chance of success.


Check out the Brasscraft link I posted above. It is a brass valve designed to be glued onto CPVC.

retiredguy123
10-15-2023, 11:08 AM
I have 17 of these to replace. Don't forget the garage sink and behind the refrigerator.

I ordered these last week: Brasscraft 1/2 in. CPVC Inlet x 3/8 in. Comp Outlet 1/4-Turn Angle Ball Valve (https://www.homedepot.com/p/BrassCraft-1-2-in-CPVC-Inlet-x-3-8-in-Comp-Outlet-1-4-Turn-Angle-Ball-Valve-KTPR19X-C1/205214450). They have a metal ball valve and glue onto the PCVC. I don't trust shark bite - which is the same type of connection as these popup valves. Should you ever need to replace these, the valve body will unscrew from the CPVC "adapter" part of the valve.

Although this video shows removal on copper pipe, the same technique works on CPVC. Pipe is in better condition after removal than if you spin off the valve.
Super Easy Replacement of plastic valve (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgdPq05eqeM&t=417s)
I recounted and my house has 12 valves. I missed the 2 under the garage sink. 3 in each of the 2 bathrooms, 3 under the kitchen sink, one behind the refrigerator, and 2 under the garage sink.

Hape2Bhr
10-15-2023, 11:20 AM
I recounted and my house has 12 valves. I missed the 2 under the garage sink. 3 in each of the 2 bathrooms, 3 under the kitchen sink, one behind the refrigerator, and 2 under the garage sink.

Would your shower/tub also have two more shutoffs in the wall?

Bill14564
10-15-2023, 11:33 AM
Check out the Brasscraft link I posted above. It is a brass valve designed to be glued onto CPVC.

I didn't realize glue would hold - must be it will. Looks like a viable option.

Pros:
- Looks easy to install
- Installed correctly (not too difficult) should be reliable and leak-free

Cons:
- Replacement requires cutting it off which may not leave enough pipe for a replacement

Topspinmo
10-15-2023, 11:37 AM
Would your shower/tub also have two more shutoffs in the wall?


I highly doubt that the shutoff controlled shower/tub control valves.

retiredguy123
10-15-2023, 11:38 AM
Would your shower/tub also have two more shutoffs in the wall?
Showers and tubs do not have shutoff valves.

Note that any plumbing valve in your house must be accessible. Hiding a valve behind a wall would violate the plumbing code.

Topspinmo
10-15-2023, 11:42 AM
You used shark bite fittings and suggest you've improved your original installation?

Most real plumbers would disagree.

Most use them, it new technology and they have tool to easily unlock them. Most can do it with little skills. For not skilled yes call plumber and he will just pull old one off clean pipe and push another brand on.

Topspinmo
10-15-2023, 11:46 AM
I didn't realize glue would hold - must be it will. Looks like a viable option.


Cons:
- Replacement requires cutting it off which may not leave enough pipe for a replacement

Which usually means not too much pipe sticking out of wall. Cutting it off means less or none left in some cases. IMO easier to just use the push ons. They can easily be removed 15 years or more later.

Topspinmo
10-15-2023, 11:53 AM
Suggest you replace all with standard valves.

Standard valves has proven track record leaking and corroding at joints. IMO they last less than pvc glued and push ons that are easily replaced. Problem with glued the valve weakest links have no option cut it off which shortens the supply line pipe.

metoo21
10-15-2023, 12:01 PM
I didn't realize glue would hold - must be it will. Looks like a viable option.

Pros:
- Looks easy to install
- Installed correctly (not too difficult) should be reliable and leak-free

Cons:
- Replacement requires cutting it off which may not leave enough pipe for a replacement

There is a CPVC liner in the glue on end so it is CPVC to CPVC joint. See attached Spec Sheet.

It does not require cutting the pipe for removal. The body unscrews from the end glued onto the pipe. All seems like a win/win.

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 12:50 PM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

$100 for each seems too expensive. I don't recall what we paid a plumber but it surely wasn't that.

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 12:54 PM
Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.

Do we have copper pipes in these homes? I thought all were PVC pipes even in the slabs. I may be wrong. Our home was built in 2007.

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 12:58 PM
In case you haven't noticed, no one has ever accused The Village's Developer of being a quality builder. They throw up junk, as fast and as cheaply as they can.

For most builders, "Building Code" is a bare minimum level of professionalism. For TV builds, "Code" is moving target.

Are you talking about the newer builds or the homes that are at least 15 years old? Our home seems to be built like a rock. The only cheap materials used in our home are those push/pull shot off valves. But.......what do I know?

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 01:00 PM
I have replaced all these valves in our patio villa with a shark bite valve. I'm no plumber, but this was one of the easiest DIY projects I've ever addressed. There is a way the valve can slide off of the pipe, but I found it easier to simply use a small pipe cutter to cut the valve, remove it, and then slide the shark bite valve onto the pipe. Be sure to use a braided metal replacement line from the valve to the faucet or you will be defeating the purpose of having a leakproof system.

Shark bites are available at Ace Hardware, but I was able to purchase several of them in a package through Amazon at a much cheaper rate. I've also replaced all of the valves for my neighbor, so I've become pretty proficient with this project.

I prefer the valves that function with a 1/4 turn. Those are the ones our plumber used. They work great.......so far. Easy peasy to turn on and off and have not leaked at all.

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 01:01 PM
Would your shower/tub also have two more shutoffs in the wall?

How do you access those valves if they are in the wall?

retiredguy123
10-15-2023, 01:11 PM
How do you access those valves if they are in the wall?
There are no valves inside the wall. Showers and tubs do not have shutoff valves.

Bogie Shooter
10-15-2023, 01:37 PM
Do we have copper pipes in these homes? I thought all were PVC pipes even in the slabs. I may be wrong. Our home was built in 2007.

I’m guessing he is talking about……….
Location: Highland Lakes, Leesburg, Florida

coffeebean
10-15-2023, 07:37 PM
There are no valves inside the wall. Showers and tubs do not have shutoff valves.

That makes more sense. Thanks.

maggie1
10-16-2023, 04:19 AM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?

I'd say that you should replace them even if they aren't leaking at present. However, you can fix the problem yourself by installing a Shark Bite valve and a braided metal water line for each outlet. I replaced all the valves in our house and it probably cost me less than $100 and that was for materials.

TheWarriors
10-16-2023, 05:37 AM
In case you haven't noticed, no one has ever accused The Village's Developer of being a quality builder. They throw up junk, as fast and as cheaply as they can.

For most builders, "Building Code" is a bare minimum level of professionalism. For TV builds, "Code" is moving target.

You’re home must have really been poorly built. Having built four other homes prior to TV, I can say my home was built very well.

midiwiz
10-16-2023, 07:14 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

yep and replace them with standard 1/4 turn you'll be better off going forward

BobnBev
10-16-2023, 09:12 AM
$1,000 would be about $150 for parts, $150 for profit on the parts, and $700 for labor. Even at $100/hour it doesn't seem like the job would take seven hours.

Probably not a bad idea to replace them (I have not but I'm thinking about it) but definitely worth getting additional quotes.

I'd replace the plumber, he's ripping you off.

Rodneysblue
10-16-2023, 10:24 AM
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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

Yes, push/pull.

Bogie Shooter
10-16-2023, 03:18 PM
Yes, push/pull.

Obviously didn't read beyond the first post.........................:doh:

galluccb
10-17-2023, 08:25 AM
Push pull

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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?[/QUOTE]

Stu from NYC
10-17-2023, 01:40 PM
I'd replace the plumber, he's ripping you off.

I didn't trust the quote and thought he was rather pushy.

EHS210
10-17-2023, 02:12 PM
Push pull

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I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?[/QUOTE]

They are Accor FlowTite fittings. Two styles. One with a crimped on (non removable supply line), the other with 1/2" nom. x 3/8" O.D. Comp. Cap

FlowTite(R) 4ALL Angle Stop Valve 1/2" nom x 3/8" | ACCOR Technology (https://accortechnology.com/flowtite-4all-supply-stop-valve-only-1-2-nom-x-3-8-o-d-comp-cap-shut-off-clip-with-escutcheon)

EHS210
10-18-2023, 07:17 AM
They are Accor FlowTite valves

kcrazorbackfan
12-11-2023, 11:23 AM
(see photo)
I've never seen plumbing fittings like this before (bathroom and kitchen sinks). Are they shutoff valves? If so, how do they work? Or better yet, what is the name of this fitting (so I can Google it)?

A more general question: is there such a thing as a homeowner 'user manual' that would answer questions like this?

Just had all of mine replaced today by Mike Scott Plumbing. Found one of the push/pull valves leaking; replaced it with 1/4 turn valves.

retiredguy123
12-11-2023, 11:30 AM
We had a plumber out recently to reinstall sink pipes after replacing countertops.

He pushed us to replace the plastic fittings ad house is 14 years old. Wanted $ 100 each for about 10. Went on and on about how flimsy they are and an accident waiting to happen.

Should we replace them?
Actually, your house probably has at least 12 of the push-pull valves. I have not had an issue, so I do not plan to replace them. But, I am sure you can find someone who will do it for a lot less than that.

kcrazorbackfan
12-11-2023, 07:59 PM
Actually, your house probably has at least 12 of the push-pull valves. I have not had an issue, so I do not plan to replace them. But, I am sure you can find someone who will do it for a lot less than that.

$69.99 per valve from Mike Scott
Plumbing.

Bilyclub
12-11-2023, 08:53 PM
Make sure you know where main and all fixture shut off valves are. Copper pipes deteriorate and fail after about 25-30 years. It’s a common problem in Florida. Mine failed under the house slab beneath a bathroom and flooded 3 rooms because I didn’t know where the main shut off valve was. $30k in damage.



Pretty sure most of the houses in TV have plastic pipe under the slabs.