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sounding
10-16-2023, 08:40 PM
Find out why this summer was not the hottest ever - at the next Weather Club talk -- Oct 19 at 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor. Also find out how NOAA fabricates nearly 30% of all climatological temperature data from locations that no longer report temperature data. For example, the temperature sensor at Belle Glade, Florida, stopped taking observations in 2005 - and yet NOAA continues to report daily temperature data from Belle Glade.

Bay Kid
10-17-2023, 07:42 AM
The summer was cool on the Chesapeake Bay this year. Who do you believe anymore?

Whitley
10-17-2023, 07:57 AM
The summer was cool on the Chesapeake Bay this year. Who do you believe anymore?

Not the government. Whichever party is in power manipulates the information to put their ideology in the best light.

sounding
10-17-2023, 08:07 AM
The summer was cool on the Chesapeake Bay this year. Who do you believe anymore?

It's always best to believe the observed (raw) data, and not NOAA's altered data - which will be demonstrated in the Oct 19 talk.

Two Bills
10-17-2023, 11:18 AM
So this site transmitter status is complete fabrication?
Shouldn't that show red?

https://www.weather.gov/NWR/sites?site=WXM58#

Keefelane66
10-17-2023, 11:36 AM
So this site transmitter status is complete fabrication?
Shouldn't that show red?

NWR Transmitter Propagation (https://www.weather.gov/NWR/sites?site=WXM58#)
Nothing better than John starting a conspiracy theory.

sounding
10-17-2023, 11:50 AM
So this site transmitter status is complete fabrication?
Shouldn't that show red?

NWR Transmitter Propagation (https://www.weather.gov/NWR/sites?site=WXM58#)

How can you have a transmitter status for something that was decommissioned in 2005? Historical Observing Metadata Repository (HOMR) | National Centers for Environmental Information (https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/homr/#ncdcstnid=10100169&tab=LOCATIONS)

Two Bills
10-17-2023, 12:09 PM
How can you have a transmitter status for something that was decommissioned in 2005? Historical Observing Metadata Repository (HOMR) | National Centers for Environmental Information (https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/access/homr/#ncdcstnid=10100169&tab=LOCATIONS)

What answer did you get when you inquired about status?

sounding
10-17-2023, 12:20 PM
What answer did you get when you inquired about status?

Didn't have to inquire - because the station is GONE. Go look for yourself.

sounding
10-17-2023, 03:31 PM
Nothing better than John starting a conspiracy theory.

Theories are one thing - data is another - which clearly shows it was warmer in the past.

MrFlorida
10-17-2023, 05:19 PM
That's summer in Florida, we're still here, and nobody melted...

Tvflguy
10-17-2023, 07:44 PM
And what about our FL hurricanes this year. Virtually zip. Could this be due to Climate Change? Oh wait that’s good news, so it’s no news to them. Shhhhh.

sounding
10-17-2023, 07:57 PM
And what about our FL hurricanes this year. Virtually zip. Could this be due to Climate Change? Oh wait that’s good news, so it’s no news to them. Shhhhh.

Exactly. Not only are Atlantic storms decreasing, but so are they on a global basis. The data is absolutely clear on this -- and the climate alarmists are greatly disappointed. Because of global warming, not only is the North-South meridional temperature gradient decreasing - which reduces the potential for severe weather events ... but the atmospheric circulation patterns are also slowing changing - which inhibit tropical cyclones.

hypart
10-18-2023, 05:46 AM
Is there a flat earth club in the villages? What other conspiracy groups are there in the villages?

sounding
10-18-2023, 07:32 AM
Is there a flat earth club in the villages? What other conspiracy groups are there in the villages?

There is such a group in the Villages -- to be mentioned later.

Taltarzac725
10-18-2023, 07:41 AM
WXM58 (162.400) Belle Glade, FL - NOAA Weather Radio (https://radiostation.info/weather/florida/WXM58/)

That sure looks like something getting information.

Wondering
10-18-2023, 08:13 AM
What is your source for information - Q Anon!

OhioBuckeye
10-18-2023, 08:31 AM
Yes ever here in Texas it was 100 to 115 for a month to a month & a half! The 8 yrs. we lived in TV I think the hottest I remember was 2 times it got to 105. So yes I agree this had to be 1 of the hottest ever!

sounding
10-18-2023, 08:32 AM
WXM58 (162.400) Belle Glade, FL - NOAA Weather Radio (https://radiostation.info/weather/florida/WXM58/)

That sure looks like something getting information.

There are well over 1,000 temperature reporting stations in the U.S. which are not part of the NOAA USHCN climatological data network -- such as those units you are looking at. For example, the Florida FAWN unit (see pix) is one - which I personally visited. However, the NOAA USHCN station at Belle Glade was removed in 2005 -- and yet it still reports climate temperature data on a daily basis - just like magic - smoke & mirrors ... all to be revealed Oct 19 at the Weather Club - 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor.

Taltarzac725
10-18-2023, 09:18 AM
7-Day Forecast for Latitude 26.7°N and Longitude 80.66°W (https://www.nws.noaa.gov/wtf/MapClick.php?lat=26.69321&lon=-80.67381&lg=ep)

I guess those Gremlins are very busy.

sounding
10-18-2023, 09:40 AM
7-Day Forecast for Latitude 26.7°N and Longitude 80.66°W (https://www.nws.noaa.gov/wtf/MapClick.php?lat=26.69321&lon=-80.67381&lg=ep)

I guess those Gremlins are very busy.

Excellent Gremlin detection ... but the data is NOT from a USHCN (Belle Glade) reporting station. Just visit the coordinates listed on that Gremlin page - and you won't find any equipment.

dougjb
10-18-2023, 10:07 AM
Oh gawd....here go the climate change deniers again!

If only they had some science behind their statements. But, despite repeated calls for providing just one peer review article from a respected scientific journal (that is the gold standard in science) to support their specious argument, these climate change deniers...and especially the Weather Club seem to rely merely upon their own statements or limited anecdotal stories. They believe that if they say something often enough, it is indeed a fact. Of course, they completely dismiss the literally thousands of peer review articles that state climate change is a reality.

For these climate change deniers, the only place temps did not go up.....was in their own refrigerators!

And they have proof of that!

sounding
10-18-2023, 10:15 AM
Oh gawd....here go the climate change deniers again!

If only they had some science behind their statements. But, despite repeated calls for providing just one peer review article from a respected scientific journal (that is the gold standard in science) to support their specious argument, these climate change deniers...and especially the Weather Club seem to rely merely upon their own statements or limited anecdotal stories. They believe that if they say something often enough, it is indeed a fact. Of course, they completely dismiss the literally thousands of peer review articles that state climate change is a reality.

For these climate change deniers, the only place temps did not go up.....was in their own refrigerators!

And they have proof of that!

Fancy words are no match for data -- which shows that severe weather events are decreasing during global warming and increasing CO2. Find out why at the Weather Club -- where data trumps narratives.

golfing eagles
10-18-2023, 10:17 AM
Oh gawd....here go the climate change deniers again!

Apparently. The true climate change deniers who refuse to accept that we have been in an ice age for 4.5 million years, that we have had over a dozen repetitive cycles of glaciation and interglacial thaws during that time, and all of it happened without a single SUV. But no problem, they will get their wish of coastal flooding and a warmer planet---in about 35,000 years---again, all without any human activity. But wait---there's more!---60,000 years later the Northern hemisphere will once again be under ice. I guess you really can't fool mother nature.

Cheapbas
10-18-2023, 01:52 PM
What is your source for information - Q Anon!

It’s “absolutely clear”!

Vermilion Villager
10-18-2023, 02:00 PM
Excellent Gremlin detection ... but the data is NOT from a USHCN (Belle Glade) reporting station. Just visit the coordinates listed on that Gremlin page - and you won't find any equipment.
Sure looks like a tower to me.....The image says 2023

sounding
10-18-2023, 02:16 PM
Sure looks like a tower to me.....The image says 2023

It doesn't matter what the image says - because it's not the Belle Glade NOAA reporting station identified as "USHCN No. 080611". It's hard to find something that doesn't exist.

golfing eagles
10-18-2023, 02:37 PM
It doesn't matter what the image says - because it's not the Belle Glade NOAA reporting station identified as "USHCN No. 080611". It's hard to find something that doesn't exist.

But easy to imagine it---just like anthropogenic climate change.

Keefelane66
10-18-2023, 03:01 PM
There are well over 1,000 temperature reporting stations in the U.S. which are not part of the NOAA USHCN climatological data network -- such as those units you are looking at. For example, the Florida FAWN unit (see pix) is one - which I personally visited. However, the NOAA USHCN station at Belle Glade was removed in 2005 -- and yet it still reports climate temperature data on a daily basis - just like magic - smoke & mirrors ... all to be revealed Oct 19 at the Weather Club - 1:30 PM at Laurel Manor.
So who does FAWN report their weather data to or how different is it from NOAA?

sounding
10-18-2023, 03:26 PM
So who does FAWN report their weather data to or how different is it from NOAA?

Those routine operations are discussed at the Weather Club - and are not a problem. But, the how and why NOAA alters USHCN temperature data, and why it fabricates data from missing USHCN stations will be discussed in detail - 1:30 PM, Oct 19, at Laurel Manor.

Keefelane66
10-18-2023, 04:14 PM
Those routine operations are discussed at the Weather Club - and are not a problem. But, the how and why NOAA alters USHCN temperature data, and why it fabricates data from missing USHCN stations will be discussed in detail - 1:30 PM, Oct 19, at Laurel Manor.
Answer my question is data shared with NOAA or is it kept a secret. Why would duplication of weather reporting facilities be necessary so close to each other. How different is the FAWN data from NOAA? I’m sure you could make up a chart or something.