Businesses around Eastport

[Txcottage]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

[Bogie Shooter]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

Doubt if The Villages establishes any retail. All of those stores you mentioned pay somebody a lot of $$ to determine where to place a store.
Send your wishes to them…….

[MrChip72]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

I live in Deluna not far from Magnolia Plaza. We already have an existing Lowe's and a Target that's being built about 6 miles away on 466A in Wildwood, so I wouldn't count on them adding others near south TV unless it's down when they're developing near Center Hill..

Sporting goods other than Pickleball and Golf stores are already sparse in all parts of TV, so that would be nice but I'm not sure about the demand when that stuff is bought online quite often now. At least the new Costco in Clermont opening next month will be 25 mins or less for most people south of 44.

[asianthree]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

Developer builds the store front, it’s up to the business to rent at that location. The only way you will see the retail you would like is, apply for franchises, and open up as many as you can afford. Good luck with your new ventures

[BrianL99]

Developer builds the store front, it’s up to the business to rent at that location. The only way you will see the retail you would like is, apply for franchises, and open up as many as you can afford. Good luck with your new ventures


That's not how it works and most of those stores are not "franchises".

[asianthree]

That's not how it works and most of those stores are not "franchises".

First 3 , Donut, cleaners, Chick-fil-A, Sonic, one would guess would be probably more in franchise fees, than the average person would want to invest. Except for target The rest are brick and mortar, that most order online, even my parents have online personal shoppers, instead of driving to a store.

[bowlingal]

TX...good luck with that. You should have researched that area before you bought.

[MidWestIA]

Shoes are all plastic now they go broke but a good one in Eustis as well as a good clock repair

[Rwirish]

Perhaps south of 44 isn’t such a good option?

[MandoMan]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

I wonder if people living north of 44 would travel south of 44 very far to eat. Maybe. If not, that cuts the sales quite a bit. I really doubt that male golfers around here would be willing to shop at Small Dick’s Sporting Goods, accurate or not. Drunken’ Donuts might be a nice option.

[Goodwingle]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

Please add: HomeGoods, TJ Max and Marshalls!!!!

[Maker]

Looking at maps, there are land owners who have not sold out to TV. Perhaps they are hoping to sell to a big box chain, or some other shopping plaza developer. Where the overpriced TV lease costs won't force payments based upon sales, and drive up costs too high to be profitable.

[pikeselectric]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

Great list! Need another Chik-fil-A definitely. More clothing options would be a plus or a small mall of sorts. Fingers crossed!

[Whitley]

Developer builds the store front, it’s up to the business to rent at that location. The only way you will see the retail you would like is, apply for franchises, and open up as many as you can afford. Good luck with your new ventures

The "Only Way"?

[Whitley]

The OP never said there MUST be these stores or he doesn't want to live here. He would "LIKE" to see these. Lighten up people, it's Friday, relax. I have a mind to post a thread about traffic circles, rental homes or dog bathroom habits. Guy posts an innocent light comment and people are getting on his case.

[Michael 61]

I knew as as soon as the OP posted this harmless thread that they would immediately be attacked, shamed, and ridiculed. Why are some people here so cruel and mean? Can’t we all try and be more positive and supportive, or is being critical of others is how one wants to spend their retirement years? I’ve talked to many since moving here to TV that are scared to death about posting even a simple question on this forum, out of fear of being attacked.

[Cheapbas]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

I like the idea, be nice if the community could somehow have a say in what we need/like and go pursue companies rather than wait and see what shows up.

[mizerkeith]

By the time that gets built and stores move in a long time took brownwood 12 years to get almost full

[Burnie]

By the time that gets built and stores move in a long time took brownwood 12 years to get almost full

Brownwood's been here 12 years already? Time flies! :shocked:

[Djean1981]

Jason's Deli, El Pollo Loco..

[kendi]

Developer builds the store front, it’s up to the business to rent at that location. The only way you will see the retail you would like is, apply for franchises, and open up as many as you can afford. Good luck with your new ventures

Not entirely true. TV didn’t build the store fronts for Publix, HD, Hobby Lobby etc etc. and I’ve read that TV does try to lure in retail business. It’s been awhile but I seem to remember it being from a reliable source.

[maistocars]

Torchy's Tacos is #1 on my list!

[Wondering]

Don't hold your breath!

[RRGuyNJ]

I knew as as soon as the OP posted this harmless thread that they would immediately be attacked, shamed, and ridiculed. Why are some people here so cruel and mean? Can’t we all try and be more positive and supportive, or is being critical of others is how one wants to spend their retirement years? I’ve talked to many since moving here to TV that are scared to death about posting even a simple question on this forum, out of fear of being attacked.

The Villages is supposed to be the World's Friendliest Town. Kinda makes you wonder. Fortunately, I'm pretty sure these folks are probably the smaller percentage in the big picture.

[Miboater]

I knew as as soon as the OP posted this harmless thread that they would immediately be attacked, shamed, and ridiculed. Why are some people here so cruel and mean? Can’t we all try and be more positive and supportive, or is being critical of others is how one wants to spend their retirement years? I’ve talked to many since moving here to TV that are scared to death about posting even a simple question on this forum, out of fear of being attacked.

I agree with you 1000%. I can't understand why people have seemingly the need to bash people for their decision to buy a house south of 44 like we didn't have a clue to what we were doing. We personally did five lifestyle visits before I found found a house and area that I liked and we searched north of 466 to south of 44 where we ended up. I can list pros and cons of any area that we looked at but I don't have the need or desire to denigrate anyone in their decision where to live. The people who do I just chalk it up to insecurity or jealousy.

[Regorp]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

People living in Middleton near Eastport want coffee, grocery, retail, pharmacy, and a gym, to start.

[Stu from NYC]

I knew as as soon as the OP posted this harmless thread that they would immediately be attacked, shamed, and ridiculed. Why are some people here so cruel and mean? Can’t we all try and be more positive and supportive, or is being critical of others is how one wants to spend their retirement years? I’ve talked to many since moving here to TV that are scared to death about posting even a simple question on this forum, out of fear of being attacked.

People on here sure do have strong opinions.

[Lottoguy]

What is certain is a Citizens Bank, a golf cart store and a business that does nails and haircuts.

[Dusty_Star]

What is certain is a Citizens Bank, a golf cart store and a business that does nails and haircuts.

You are right!!! :MOJE_whot:

[Vermilion Villager]

TX...good luck with that. You should have researched that area before you bought.
WOW!!! I don't see anything in the OP that indicates where he lives. Yet here you are.Maybe you should have researched that before posting.:mornincoffee:

[Vermilion Villager]

I agree with you 1000%. I can't understand why people have seemingly the need to bash people for their decision to buy a house south of 44 like we didn't have a clue to what we were doing. We personally did five lifestyle visits before I found found a house and area that I liked and we searched north of 466 to south of 44 where we ended up. I can list pros and cons of any area that we looked at but I don't have the need or desire to denigrate anyone in their decision where to live. The people who do I just chalk it up to insecurity or jealousy.

True Dat!!!!:agree:

[tophcfa]

Several Championship golf courses would top the list of businesses I’d like to see open.

[Michael 61]

My top three would be 1) A good bagel place 2) A Taqueria 3) An Indian restaurant

[meme5x]

Best shoe store ever, Beckers in Mt. Dora

[Stu from NYC]

My top three would be 1) A good bagel place 2) A Taqueria 3) An Indian restaurant

Would like another bagel store but wonder if we would give them enough business to survive.

Would like a good Greek restaurant.

[NavyVet]

What is certain is a Citizens Bank, a golf cart store and a business that does nails and haircuts.

And don't forget the pack and ship type store; they're everywhere! LOL

[NavyVet]

Actually, if I could wave a magic wand and have anything I wanted, it would be to see my 2 favorite places ever in or near TV: Cheesecake Factory and Rain Forest Cafe.
But I agree there needs to be more retail, groceries, and basic business choices in the Southern areas.
Although I grew up in the mountains where anything and everything was at least a 30 minute drive, these days I'd rather not have that long a trip to go shopping, etc.
I also miss the days of good indoor malls, but shopping on-line sure is convenient.

[Marathon Man]

I agree with you 1000%. I can't understand why people have seemingly the need to bash people for their decision to buy a house south of 44 like we didn't have a clue to what we were doing. We personally did five lifestyle visits before I found found a house and area that I liked and we searched north of 466 to south of 44 where we ended up. I can list pros and cons of any area that we looked at but I don't have the need or desire to denigrate anyone in their decision where to live. The people who do I just chalk it up to insecurity or jealousy.

Well said.

[kingofbeer]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.
Not going to happen. Dunkin Donuts would be the donut place expected to open. McDonalds. Not enough profits for DSW, Target, "shoe repair" to open there. If you are lucky a new Publix may open, otherwise you will drive to Magnolia Plaza.

[Stu from NYC]

Not going to happen. Dunkin Donuts would be the donut place expected to open. McDonalds. Not enough profits for DSW, Target, "shoe repair" to open there. If you are lucky a new Publix may open, otherwise you will drive to Magnolia Plaza.

Dunkin donuts is too busy putting itself out of business by making foolish decisions.

Would rather see a Timmys.

[Oneiric]

Is the new Portillo's going in on Villages owned property on 27/441 or non?

[asianthree]

Dunkin donuts is too busy putting itself out of business by making foolish decisions.

Would rather see a Timmys.

Duck Donuts is fresh made donuts as you wait.

Problem is can you imagine how many old people would be yelling at employees

“What is taking you so long to get my donuts”:icon_hungry:

When all they need is a weak cup of coffee and a doughnut made two days ago, and rode in on a truck, to make them happy.

[RCMill531@comcast.net]

No mention of regret! Why the native reaction??

[GizmoWhiskers]

People living in Middleton near Eastport want coffee, grocery, retail, pharmacy, and a gym, to start.
Hense why the newly constructed houses are lower priced than most of the pre-owned house (minus some of the Phase 1 parts of T V north of 441) from the southern to northern end of T V .

New areas are going to have a looooong wait for retail other than Publix plazas. Not even sure the boasted about medical research hospital is still a thing down by Eastport...

Just sold my property south of 44. I headed north of 44 to be closer to retail. If you aren't into being close to shopping then the new areas are perfect and the price point is a bonus.

[GizmoWhiskers]

People living in Middleton near Eastport want coffee, grocery, retail, pharmacy, and a gym, to start.
Magnolia Plaza took about 4-5 years to build out. 2018 is when I explorered T V. Fenney was the sales center and Magnolia Plaza was a field. 2019 Everglades was built and Publix was after that if I recall. At least one can play golf and have fun passing the time while waiting.

[Gatorfan1]

Watch the video



https://youtube.com/watch?v=xEdUoo0CnzU&si=7JzgGKd1LKyrmFK9

[Randall55]

I agree with you 1000%. I can't understand why people have seemingly the need to bash people for their decision to buy a house south of 44 like we didn't have a clue to what we were doing. We personally did five lifestyle visits before I found found a house and area that I liked and we searched north of 466 to south of 44 where we ended up. I can list pros and cons of any area that we looked at but I don't have the need or desire to denigrate anyone in their decision where to live. The people who do I just chalk it up to insecurity or jealousy.There are two sides to every story. Depending on when you bought in the Northern areas the average home price was $200,000 -$250,000. Even lower, if you bought earlier. Bonds averaged $10,000. You could also enjoy a 2.5% mortgage.

For them, it is hard to comprehend paying double (or higher) the cost for the same model home. Higher bonds, higher taxes, higher insurance and higher mortgage rates makes them shiver. In addition, they know it took many years to get retail in their area. They do not want to live without, AGAIN!

I lived in the Lopez area for many years. Now, I live in Hawkins. To be honest, there are days I wish I had just stayed put. My bills were much smaller and I had quite a bit more discretionary money. But, then there are days when I enjoy the new environment and all it has to offer.

I have not encountered anyone living in the Northern area jealous of those living in the Southern area. They have no reason to be insecure. They can sell their homes for double or triple the cost they paid. With their profit, they can purchase a new home in the Southern area with a cash deal. No harm, no problem! They have no desire because they have already lived the joys of being in a new area. What can the south area offer them that is different? The answer for most is nothing. They choose to have more discretionary cash each month than higher bills.

When you read posts from a northerner which you believe are dissing the southern area, it is not jealousy. It is "been there, done that!" And, "Thank my lucky stars, I did it when it was much cheaper. Why would anyone pay so much to live down there?"

It makes sense for a newbie to favor a newly constructed home. Two different viewpoints of where to live and both are valid.

[thelegges]

Hense why the newly constructed houses are lower priced than most of the pre-owned house (minus some of the Phase 1 parts of T V north of 441) from the southern to northern end of T V .

New areas are going to have a looooong wait for retail other than Publix plazas. Not even sure the boasted about medical research hospital is still a thing down by Eastport...

Just sold my property south of 44. I headed north of 44 to be closer to retail. If you aren't into being close to shopping then the new areas are perfect and the price point is a bonus.

Many like us started in LSL, then half way between LSL and BW. Then south of 44 and BW, 4 houses later, we are happy with the less traffic. As younger move south, driving isn’t a big deal. Now our parents in their early 80’s groceries arrive at their front door, makes them happy.

For us, If I need groceries it’s never Publix, or WD, and definitely not Aldi. Sprouts, Sometimes Fresh Market, but TJ’s, Whole Foods, Costco, is mostly twice a month trip, along with the commissary, and Marzano’s.

I am so happy to drive to 441, Leesburg, Orlando, or Gainesville to shop. I don’t need retail within 20 minutes drive, more traffic elsewhere where with noisy retail parking, is perfect, for us. Hoping The empty lots along 44 will stay that way for awhile, but we all know that’s not going to happen. By the time big retailers hit south of 44, I hope I can still maintain my ability to shop out of the bubble, because I just don’t see my regular haunts arriving anywhere near TV ;)

[Nana2Teddy]

Magnolia Plaza took about 4-5 years to build out. 2018 is when I explorered T V. Fenney was the sales center and Magnolia Plaza was a field. 2019 Everglades was built and Publix was after that if I recall. At least one can play golf and have fun passing the time while waiting.
Magnolia Plaza isn’t built out yet. CVS hasn’t even broken ground, and there’s still smaller businesses like Marcos pizza still finishing up.

[retiredguy123]

The developer should maintain some control over the types of stores allowed in a shopping center, based on the need in that area. Of course, profit is also a serious consideration.

[defrey12]

What is certain is a Citizens Bank, a golf cart store and a business that does nails and haircuts.

Given its size, probably 2-3 of each.

[Txcottage]

Doubt if The Villages establishes any retail. All of those stores you mentioned pay somebody a lot of $$ to determine where to place a store.
Send your wishes to them…….
Some of the stores said customer’s input does play a big part in future locations, so I have- although I’m just 1 person.

[Txcottage]

TX...good luck with that. You should have researched that area before you bought.
We looked and looked and know this was the house we were to buy. I like my area, just not the same shopping over and over again. Perhaps bowling lanes should be added to the list as skating parties were a great school fundraiser in Texas.

[asianthree]

Magnolia Plaza isn’t built out yet. CVS hasn’t even broken ground, and there’s still smaller businesses like Marcos pizza still finishing up.

With Rite Aide closing 150 stores, you have to wonder do we really have the need for another pharmacy. I remember in the 70s there was a Perry Drug I swear on every corner, 80% open 24/7. Then areas became saturated with other pharmacies, and the closures began.

I look at TV, and wonder how does all of these pharmacies have enough business to make a profit, and building 10 more really makes me SMH.

I haven’t been in a pharmacy in at least 10 plus years. I don’t get it.

[Bogie Shooter]

We looked and looked and know this was the house we were to buy. I like my area, just not the same shopping over and over again. Perhaps bowling lanes should be added to the list as skating parties were a great school fundraiser in Texas.

So were drive in movies.:1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Stu from NYC]

We looked and looked and know this was the house we were to buy. I like my area, just not the same shopping over and over again. Perhaps bowling lanes should be added to the list as skating parties were a great school fundraiser in Texas.

Us old folks seem to have stopped skating

[Papa_lecki]

The developer should maintain some control over the types of stores allowed in a shopping center, based on the need in that area. Of course, profit is also a serious consideration.

In general, a retailer will not commit to a 6/7/8 year lease if there’s not a need for the product (I don’t see a baby’s R us moving into the Villages).
Also, Developer (commercial realtor) wants a nice mix of retailers for residents.
Commercial realtor also wants the businesses (tenants) to be a success, bankrupt businesses don’t pay rent.

[Larchap49]

I realize this is my personal list but I’d like to see these stores put down south of Magnolia Plaza instead of the usual ones TV establishes—
Cleaners/Shoe Repair; Chick-Fil-A; Sonic; Walmart Neighborhood grocery; Lowe’s; a SMALL Dick’s Sporting Goods; a donut place NOT Dunkin!; JJill women’s casual clothes; DSW; home decor store. Oh, and Target would be nice as well! It’s wishful thinking on these stores, but maybe someday.

Yeah someday but probably not in my lifetime

[mrf0151]

If you recall, it took years before Magnolia Plaza opened for the folks south of highway 44. Don't hold your breath. If your older and don't have time to wait, then buy close to 466 or 466a.

[Nana2Teddy]

With Rite Aide closing 150 stores, you have to wonder do we really have the need for another pharmacy. I remember in the 70s there was a Perry Drug I swear on every corner, 80% open 24/7. Then areas became saturated with other pharmacies, and the closures began.

I look at TV, and wonder how does all of these pharmacies have enough business to make a profit, and building 10 more really makes me SMH.

I haven’t been in a pharmacy in at least 10 plus years. I don’t get it.
I don’t get it either. I hate CVS, and refused to shop there when it was 5 minutes from home before we moved here. I get my prescriptions mail order, or if I need a short term prescription I just get it at Publix. It’s crazy how many pharmacies there are here.

[tophcfa]

I don’t get it either. I hate CVS, and refused to shop there when it was 5 minutes from home before we moved here. I get my prescriptions mail order, or if I need a short term prescription I just get it at Publix. It’s crazy how many pharmacies there are here.

What’s makes CVS worse than other pharmacies? We have been happy with them (aside from a push to self-checkout). They are the mail order pharmacy used by Blue Cross Blue Shield in the state of our northern home.

[retiredguy123]

In general, a retailer will not commit to a 6/7/8 year lease if there’s not a need for the product (I don’t see a baby’s R us moving into the Villages).
Also, Developer (commercial realtor) wants a nice mix of retailers for residents.
Commercial realtor also wants the businesses (tenants) to be a success, bankrupt businesses don’t pay rent.
A pizza restaurant may not want to open next door to another pizza restaurant.

[Stu from NYC]

A pizza restaurant may not want to open next door to another pizza restaurant.

Stranger things have happened.

Look at all the CVS and Walgreens that are neighbors, not to mention Lowes and Home Depot

[tophcfa]

Since this is a wish list, I think the one business everyone wishes was somewhere in the Villages (regardless of location), would be a good Hospital with a functional ER.

[asianthree]

Since this is a wish list, I think the one business everyone wishes was somewhere in the Villages (regardless of location), would be a good Hospital with a functional ER.

ED only functions well if those who really need a ED emergency enters. But that will never happen in TV or any facility in every state.

Our ED’s were always bogged down, with non life threatening visits. Slowing down even the best ED.

Every person must be seen, no matter what, therefore clogging the system instead of non emergency people going to an urgent care.

So you are asking for the impossible. Our EDs were in discussions of adding an urgent care in the front, leaving room for the bus patients, who needed emergency care.

[MrChip72]

Us old folks seem to have stopped skating

I'm sure if they built an ice arena in TV that it would be very well utilized for a variety of rink sports. I've seen multiple people with hockey sticks in their garage.

[Stu from NYC]

I'm sure if they built an ice arena in TV that it would be very well utilized for a variety of rink sports. I've seen multiple people with hockey sticks in their garage.

It would certainly draw my son in law

[Garywt]

I don’t get it either. I hate CVS, and refused to shop there when it was 5 minutes from home before we moved here. I get my prescriptions mail order, or if I need a short term prescription I just get it at Publix. It’s crazy how many pharmacies there are here.

I had CVS as well but I take between 30-40 pills a day and they all come from CVS as it is the only place my insurance pays so I am there. Our CVS up north is open 24/7 including the pharmacy so we go. In addition to prescriptions there is all the over the counter drugs plus food and candy and health and beauty etc so we shop there.

[justjim]

The Target along 441, along with several other retail stores, was built on property owned by the Villages Developer and is golf cart accessible. It’s not improbable that something similar could be built south of 44 especially in the Eastport/Middleton area.