Fill up your tank soon!

[Tvflguy]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.

[tophcfa]

Just drove north from the Villages and the difference in gas prices in the states we drove through (state taxes) is amazing. Cheapest gas was $2.89 in South Carolina and most expensive was $3.99 in both Pennsylvania and New York. Prices in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia, and Virginia were more than South Carolina, but still in the low to mid $3 range. Massachusetts is around $3.59. I didn’t check the price in the sliver of Maryland we passed through, but it’s typically close to the $3.99 states. Ironically, the worst road conditions we encountered during the 1,350 mile ride were easily in both Pennsylvania (Rt. 81 and 84) and New York (Rt. 84), the highest gas price states.

[golfing eagles]

Just drove north from the Villages and the difference in gas prices in the states we drove through (state taxes) is amazing. Cheapest gas was $2.89 in South Carolina and most expensive was $3.99 in both Pennsylvania and New York. Prices in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia, and Virginia were more than South Carolina, but still in the low to mid $3 range. Massachusetts is around $3.59. I didn’t check the price in the sliver of Maryland we passed through, but it’s typically close to the $3.99 states. Ironically, the worst road conditions we encountered during the 1,350 mile ride were easily in both Pennsylvania (Rt. 81 and 84) and New York (Rt. 84), the highest gas price states.

You do realize that the price of gas is the price of gas, and the difference among states is primarily taxes.

[Kenswing]

It’s amazing, to some people the sky never stops falling.

[asianthree]

It’s amazing, to some people the sky never stops falling.

Ya got to love the person in front of me put in $7.25. Driving to Gainesville in am, My low gas light was on so had to Wait for 3 people to put less than $10 each.

[Stu from NYC]

Ya got to love the person in front of me put in $7.25. Driving to Gainesville in am, My low gas light was on so had to Wait for 3 people to put less than $10 each.

People think that they will not be able to fill up again so they have to top off.

[Two Bills]

In UK $6.42 a US.gallon. 5% ethanol.
Mainly taxes, but it's a lot cheaper than it was some time back!

[Stu from NYC]

In UK $6.42 a US.gallon. 5% ethanol.
Mainly taxes, but it's a lot cheaper than it was some time back!

Wow and its a lot cheaper.

[roob1]

I waited until my low gas light came on, therefore I am entitled to go first because my tank is lower than yours. How long did it really take for the car to put in 2 gallons? GMAFB!

Ya got to love the person in front of me put in $7.25. Driving to Gainesville in am, My low gas light was on so had to Wait for 3 people to put less than $10 each.

[JGibson]

Don't worry 3.2% should cover it.

[MrFlorida]

Please, don't start panic buying, we had enough during covid with toilet paper.

[RICH1]

3.29 in Western NC yesterday… topped off with 18 gallons… being retired, I may not need gasoline for another month

[ThirdOfFive]

It’s amazing, to some people the sky never stops falling.
Amen.

I recall one of the first gas "crises". 1971 or so. Gas had just gone up from $0.39 per gallon to $0.50 and people were irate. I know, because I was working nights at a gas station at the time while going to college classes during the day. Lots of really P.O.'ed people blaming whoever was handiest to blame. Most of the time, it was us.

Do you know how much $0.50 in 1971 would be worth today?

$3.61.

'Nuff said.

[Keefelane66]

We paid $2.91 at BJ’s with loyalty discount.

[Topspinmo]

In UK $6.42 a US.gallon. 5% ethanol.
Mainly taxes, but it's a lot cheaper than it was some time back!


I thought England sold gas by liter?

[Topspinmo]

Amen.

I recall one of the first gas "crises". 1971 or so. Gas had just gone up from $0.39 per gallon to $0.50 and people were irate. I know, because I was working nights at a gas station at the time while going to college classes during the day. Lots of really P.O.'ed people blaming whoever was handiest to blame. Most of the time, it was us.

Do you know how much $0.50 in 1971 would be worth today?

$3.61.



'Nuff said.

And how much was you making working in that gas station? $1.95` hour?

[jchase]

$3.09 in Houston (10/19/2023)

[Rainger99]

I thought England sold gas by liter?

They do but a gallon is 3.79 liters. I assume he did the conversion for us.

First time I rented a car in England, I was amazed at how cheap gas was. Until I realized the price was in liters - not gallons!!

[Bay Kid]

A shame we are dependent on countries that hate us. We need to use our own resources.

[4$ALE]

$3.09 in Houston (10/19/2023)

$2.99 here. :thumbup:

[Two Bills]

I thought England sold gas by liter?

They do, but I converted it to US gallons so as to make it easy just for you!:icon_wink:

[Two Bills]

Wow and its a lot cheaper.

After Covid when the world went crazy, we were paying about $9.60 a US gallon. for 5% ethanol.

[ThirdOfFive]

After Covid when the world went crazy, we were paying about $9.60 a US gallon. for 5% ethanol.
Is the ethanol used for gasoline produced locally? If so what plant source is used?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top. Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.


I use GasBuddy and iExit and Gasbuddy prices are not always accurate, like manipulated. I went to a station in Fruitland park which had the lowest diesel at like $4.17 and the actual price when I got there was $4.59, i entered the correct price in Gasbuddy and the next day, the price was back dow to $4.17. . .

someone must be getting a free coffee every morning, or the owner thinks he is going to get more customers. . maybe once....

If you are financially able, you can buy 100 shares of UGA and offset the price increase with a hedge, and sell the 100 shares for the profit amount equal to the amount of gas you use in a year time the difference between the low price and say $4.00 a gallon divided by (1 - your incremental tax rate. . ) and pay for the increase for the next year with after tax profits.

personally i bought 200 shares. . as I have two vehicles and one is diesel truck, so I need a bit more hedging

getting into that retirement mentality of driving up to 100 miles to save those pennies. .

[Stu from NYC]

I use GasBuddy and iExit and Gasbuddy prices are not always accurate, like manipulated. I went to a station in Fruitland park which had the lowest diesel at like $4.17 and the actual price when I got there was $4.59, i entered the correct price in Gasbuddy and the next day, the price was back dow to $4.17. . .

someone must be getting a free coffee every morning, or the owner thinks he is going to get more customers. . maybe once....

If you are financially able, you can buy 100 shares of UGA and offset the price increase with a hedge, and sell the 100 shares for the profit amount equal to the amount of gas you use in a year time the difference between the low price and say $4.00 a gallon divided by (1 - your incremental tax rate. . ) and pay for the increase for the next year with after tax profits.

personally i bought 200 shares. . as I have two vehicles and one is diesel truck, so I need a bit more hedging

getting into that retirement mentality of driving up to 100 miles to save those pennies. .

drive 100 miles to save a few pennies, hmmm. Perhaps you can make it up in volume.:MOJE_whot:

[Two Bills]

Is the ethanol used for gasoline produced locally? If so what plant source is used?

From what I found, most of our Ethanol was/is imported from Brazil, mainly manufactured from sugar cane.
British Sugar Corp. opened a plant in UK in 2007, and use Sugar Beet.
Seems we now produce about 35% of our own.

All that pees me off, is my car needs the 5% Ethanol gas, which is about 63 cents a US gallon more than the 10% Ethanol fuel.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

drive 100 miles to save a few pennies, hmmm. Perhaps you can make it up in volume.:MOJE_whot:

:highfive: LOL! someone noticed the illogical fallacy! :wave:

[Stu from NYC]

:highfive: LOL! someone noticed the illogical fallacy! :wave:

As opposed to a logical fallacy? Irregardless of that how are you doing?

[asianthree]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.

Should have waited
You need to hurry and run back to Walmart, it’s $2.99 this morning :MOJE_whot:

[Tvflguy]

Should have waited
You need to hurry and run back to Walmart, it’s $2.99 this morning :MOJE_whot:

Yep that’s the plan. It’ll probably take .89 worth but what the heck….

[vintageogauge]

We're dependent by choice.

[ThirdOfFive]

From what I found, most of our Ethanol was/is imported from Brazil, mainly manufactured from sugar cane.
British Sugar Corp. opened a plant in UK in 2007, and use Sugar Beet.
Seems we now produce about 35% of our own.

All that pees me off, is my car needs the 5% Ethanol gas, which is about 63 cents a US gallon more than the 10% Ethanol fuel.
Thanks. Brazil does it right: Ethanol from sugar cane is about a 7-1 return on energy invested to produce it. Over here we use mainly corn, which at best is a push: you put as much energy into producing it as you get back out of it. We could be using sorghum, which I understand grows just about everywhere corn does and gives about a 2-1 return, but we don't.

Maybe I'm in a minority, but it just seems immoral to be using food for fuel.

[dtennent]

In the USA, most of the ethanol is made here using corn as a feedstock. MGP in Kansas makes ethanol from wheat but most of that goes into liquor.

[Two Bills]

A shame we are dependent on countries that hate us. We need to use our own resources.

U.S. Energy Information Administration - EIA - Independent Statistics and Analysis (https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=60622)

[asianthree]

Yep that’s the plan. It’ll probably take .89 worth but what the heck….

1 day a week I am in Gainesville, Disney, or the coast, so near Sam’s, multiple WaWa’s Costco, so neighborhood Walmart from south of 44 is no big deal, than again, neither is .89….;)

[westernrider75]

Just drove north from the Villages and the difference in gas prices in the states we drove through (state taxes) is amazing. Cheapest gas was $2.89 in South Carolina and most expensive was $3.99 in both Pennsylvania and New York. Prices in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, West Virginia, and Virginia were more than South Carolina, but still in the low to mid $3 range. Massachusetts is around $3.59. I didn’t check the price in the sliver of Maryland we passed through, but it’s typically close to the $3.99 states. Ironically, the worst road conditions we encountered during the 1,350 mile ride were easily in both Pennsylvania (Rt. 81 and 84) and New York (Rt. 84), the highest gas price states.

Pennsylvania is one of the states with the highest gas taxes, so their prices are always high.

[Southwest737]

But there is Good news for us EV drivers. SECO dropped price per kWh by 3 cents.

[Dusty_Star]

Pennsylvania is one of the states with the highest gas taxes, so their prices are always high.

You are right, Pennsylvania was at 62 + cents per gallon. Not as high as California at almost 78 cents.

2023 State Gas Tax Rates | Gas Taxes by State | Tax Foundation (https://taxfoundation.org/data/all/state/state-gas-tax-rates-2023/#:~:text=California%20pumps%20out%20the%20highest, and%20Mississippi%20(18.4%20cpg)).

[Captainpd]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.
So filling my tank is going to protect me from the rising prices? Thanks for the heads up

[GizmoWhiskers]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.
$2.99 outside of the bubble as of yesterday. $1.89 inside the bubble in 2019. I used to fill up in the Bubble when I came here to explore. Something happened, not sure what... ??

Now I leave the bubble to get gas lol.

[airstreamingypsy]

A shame we are dependent on countries that hate us. We need to use our own resources.

US oil production hits all-time high, conflicting with efforts to cut heat-trapping pollution. United States domestic oil production hit an all-time high last week.

[Bridget Staunton]

Topspinmo: They sell gas by the litre but for comparison purpose people calculate the price in the US. We do that when we go to the auld sod

[Trishakaye]

Ya got to love the person in front of me put in $7.25. Driving to Gainesville in am, My low gas light was on so had to Wait for 3 people to put less than $10 each.

So????

[EdFNJ]

You do realize that the price of gas is the price of gas, and the difference among states is primarily taxes. The price of gas isn't "just the price of gas". If that's the case why is gas $3.25 on 466A and $2.99 on 441 and $3.59 in Ocala ? ;). True though, the taxes definitely vary between states and even counties but some stations may just want to make more money so different brands of stations may pay more or less wholesale than others. So contributing to the price of gas is cost + markup AND of course taxes.

[EdFNJ]

I use GasBuddy and iExit and Gasbuddy prices are not always accurate, like manipulated. I went to a station in Fruitland park which had the lowest diesel at like $4.17 and the actual price when I got there was $4.59, i entered the correct price in Gasbuddy and the next day, the price was back dow to $4.17. . . . Yea, it was the same thing between the then 2 stations on 466a (now 4 stations and soon to be 5). Someone was always playing games with the prices which was why I stopped using that app. They must instruct the store employees to keep watching it.

[FFlank]

Gas at my cheapest local station is $5.71 this morning. Thank goodness we have the country’s worst roads here in California.

[Vermilion Villager]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.
I have a Tesla, Prius hybrid, and a Lithium powered golf cart....:mornincoffee::icon_bored:

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Ya got to love the person in front of me put in $7.25. Driving to Gainesville in am, My low gas light was on so had to Wait for 3 people to put less than $10 each.did it ever occur to you that these people may not be able to pay for a full tank of gas .you know the last time prices were very high I would keep an eye out while pumping gas for folks that were pulling up at the same time in older cars and putting just a little gas in them , on 2 or 3 occasions I watched mothers with kids in cars put in a few dollars , I asked them if I could pay to fill them up ,after the initial shock they were extremely grateful, I believe in playing it forward , I’ve been lucky in life , so many mistakes and still came out okay

[Topspinmo]

Thanks. Brazil does it right: Ethanol from sugar cane is about a 7-1 return on energy invested to produce it. Over here we use mainly corn, which at best is a push: you put as much energy into producing it as you get back out of it. We could be using sorghum, which I understand grows just about everywhere corn does and gives about a 2-1 return, but we don't.

Maybe I'm in a minority, but it just seems immoral to be using food for fuel.


It don’t get sub zero in Brazil.

[Topspinmo]

But there is Good news for us EV drivers. SECO dropped price per kWh by 3 cents.


Laugh of day for me….:sing:

[asianthree]

did it ever occur to you that these people may not be able to pay for a full tank of gas .you know the last time prices were very high I would keep an eye out while pumping gas for folks that were pulling up at the same time in older cars and putting just a little gas in them , on 2 or 3 occasions I watched mothers with kids in cars put in a few dollars , I asked them if I could pay to fill them up ,after the initial shock they were extremely grateful, I believe in playing it forward , I’ve been lucky in life , so many mistakes and still came out okay

Wouldn’t occur to me at all, considering, A Benz, Corvette, and Beemer, all few years old, every driver 70, and up, so money not an issue. Some guys just have that fear, that price may flux to wait, for higher price.

[xcaligirl]

I waited until my low gas light came on, therefore I am entitled to go first because my tank is lower than yours. How long did it really take for the car to put in 2 gallons? GMAFB!
Better than waiting for 3 people having to FILL UP at $25 or higher each

[xcaligirl]

Wouldn’t occur to me at all, considering, A Benz, Corvette, and Beemer, all few years old, every driver 70, and up, so money not an issue. Some guys just have that fear, that price may flux to wait, for higher price.
Money not an issue if a person is over 70???? Are you their financial advisors and know that for a fact or just ASSUMING!!!

[charlieo1126@gmail.com]

Wouldn’t occur to me at all, considering, A Benz, Corvette, and Beemer, all few years old, every driver 70, and up, so money not an issue. Some guys just have that fear, that price may flux to wait, for higher price. OH !! I’m sure they were ,that happens to me all the time on the turnpike , I’m always waiting behind 3 luxury cars driven by 70 year olds ,putting less than $10 in gas tank . I guess we are both unlucky

[asianthree]

Money not an issue if a person is over 70???? Are you their financial advisors and know that for a fact or just ASSUMING!!!

When you spend $100,000, to $200,000 plus on a car, I am guessing they don’t live in it, and have the ability to pay for the high end insurance to go with it.

One can see more Jags, Maserati, Ferrari, Bentley, and occasional RR. inside TV, than in most affluent communities. Spend $200,000 plus for a car, I am thinking his financial guy is on speed dial.

When one appreciates a fine machine, you don’t have to assume anything. If we still had our split window, and Shelby, I wouldn’t be putting in $7.00 in gas, it would take that much just to start it up and drive there. We rarely add to tank over 1/2, sometimes performance cars get a little fickle and adding gas at mutual stations.. but just listen to our car guy

So no, don’t need to be a financial advisor to know how much a classic machine sticker cost is, or appreciate the machine itself. Just surprised someone would sit in line for $7.00 worth of gas. Especially with their engines, top off isn’t worth it, $7. Is 2.4 gallons ish, when clicked off. Rarely does a car less than a few years old has a gas gage issue, so wild guess, gas was cheap, and didn’t want to buy at a higher rate.

[billethkid]

]It’s amazing, to some people the sky never stops falling.[/COLOR]

Bee-eye-en-gee-oh!

[jimjamuser]

Regular gas at Neighborhood Walmart today was $3.09. Got a fill up to the top.

Absolutely appears that oil prices will be rising and gas too.

The Middle East situation and the lower domestic production will impact prices very soon. We are also going to increase importing Venezuelan oil. And the Strategic Oil Reserve of the USA is down by over 45% the last few years.

This is all converging…. Not good news for energy prices. hang on.
Worried about rising oil and gas prices? Imagine how much less of a problem that would be if 30% or more of new car and truck sales were ELECTRIC.

[jimjamuser]

I have a Tesla, Prius hybrid, and a Lithium powered golf cart....:mornincoffee::icon_bored:
That is the best way to attack the problem.

[Two Bills]

Worried about rising oil and gas prices? Imagine how much less of a problem that would be if 30% or more of new car and truck sales were ELECTRIC.

With the cost of electricity here in UK, charging a Tesla electric car costs £25+ ($30+) a time.
Makes even my old gas guzzler more economical, and at our gas prices.
Plus, according to certain sources, I am producing plenty of CO2 , and saving the planet! :thumbup:

[asianthree]

That is the best way to attack the problem.

By the time Developers are finally done building that EV better be getting 300miles a change just to get from TV middle, to north, down to south, and back to middle (wherever that will be):clap2:

Then again dealer advised us to AC the garage, for EV, so factor in the unit and monthly run of AC.

[vintageogauge]

Worried about rising oil and gas prices? Imagine how much less of a problem that would be if 30% or more of new car and truck sales were ELECTRIC.

Do you really believe that the cost of electricity will not go up with demand? What about the cost to replace those batteries in a few years? Gas today in Wildwood is $2.89 for those that care about the cost. Thankfully I won't be around long enough for EV's to be mandatory as I would never own or lease one.

[Bill14564]

Do you really believe that the cost of electricity will not go up with demand? What about the cost to replace those batteries in a few years? Gas today in Wildwood is $2.89 for those that care about the cost. Thankfully I won't be around long enough for EV's to be mandatory as I would never own or lease one.

Tesla seems to figure 4mi/kWh. At $0.13/kWh that works out to be about $0.03/mile.

At 30 miles/gal and $3/gal a gas car costs about $0.10/mile.

The cost of electricity would need to triple, with no increase in cost of gas, to make things equal.

Batteries are warranted for 10+ years so it is unlikely they would ever need to be replaced.

There are reasons that an EV doesn't meet my needs but they do not include cost of charging and cost of battery replacement.

[mrf0151]

I waited until my low gas light came on, therefore I am entitled to go first because my tank is lower than yours. How long did it really take for the car to put in 2 gallons? GMAFB!

Smart actually. It is called dollar cost averaging. Those folks are probably good investors too!

[justjim]

You do realize that the price of gas is the price of gas, and the difference among states is primarily taxes.

The State motor fuel taxes do make a huge difference in the price of gas. That said, the weather makes a difference on the highway conditions with the freezing and thawing conditions and trying to maintain the highways in northern states. Thus the state taxes are much higher driving up the price of gas. Another factor are labor costs to maintain the highways. These factors make the price of gas cheaper in southern states of the U.S.