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Altavia
10-27-2023, 03:44 PM
Welcome 4 Rivers BBQ Style Restaurant - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/2023/10/welcome-4rivers-bbq-style-restaurant/)

The newest addition coming to downtown Middleton, 4 Rivers Smokehouse, brings mouthwatering BBQ flavors with a fast-casual dining experience. We’re excited to welcome 4 Rivers Smokehouse to our community.

4 Rivers Smokehouse is a family-owned, faith-based restaurant founded in 2004, originally supporting local schools, churches, and charitable organizations – well until they outgrew their garage. In October of 2009, they opened their first restaurant in Winter Park, Florida with a line out the door in the first hour.

Get ready for some great flavors coming to our community and follow along as we bring you more updates on what is on the horizon and set to come to Middleton.

. . .

Altavia
10-27-2023, 04:25 PM
Downtown - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/lifestyle/downtown/)

Downtown businesses on the horizon. We’re well on our way to bringing these great businesses to you in Middleton!

Enjoy dining options such as:


Drive Through Coffee Shop
4 Rivers Smokehouse
Sports Bar
Family Gastro Pub
Ice Cream Shop
Sushi Restaurant
Family Italian Restaurant
Sub Shop
Breakfast & Lunch Restaurant
Pizzeria


Enjoy shopping & service options such as:

Grocery Store
Bank
Fuel/Convenience Store
Pharmacy

Randall55
10-27-2023, 06:14 PM
Downtown - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/lifestyle/downtown/)

Downtown businesses on the horizon. We’re well on our way to bringing these great businesses to you in Middleton!

Enjoy dining options such as:


Drive Through Coffee Shop
4 Rivers Smokehouse
Sports Bar
Family Gastro Pub
Ice Cream Shop
Sushi Restaurant
Family Italian Restaurant
Sub Shop
Breakfast & Lunch Restaurant
Pizzeria


Enjoy shopping & service options such as:

Grocery Store
Bank
Fuel/Convenience Store
Pharmacy
Just a curious question. Will it be proper for us "old folks" to frequent Middleton's Downtown? Or, would that be considered crass and an invasion of their family-oriented world? I have relatives living there and when I visit, I get glares. The shocked "aren't you supposed to be in your area?" looks. They are not threatening but can be uncomfortable. So, are we supposed to keep to our area while they keep to theirs? I do not want any to feel invaded upon.

asianthree
10-27-2023, 06:55 PM
Just a curious question. Will it be proper for us "old folks" to frequent Middleton's Downtown? Or, would that be considered crass and an invasion of their family-oriented world? I have relatives living there and when I visit, I get glares. The shocked "aren't you supposed to be in your area?" looks. They are not threatening but can be uncomfortable. So, are we supposed to keep to our area while they keep to theirs? I do not want any to feel invaded upon.

Had zero issues going to visit in Middleton, everyone was friendly, kids were polite. Moltry Creek and the next championship, will be next to Middleton. When shopping in grocery, at TV, there are families, neither feels invaded space. Stopped by HS, and met with friendly faces. Kind of surprised you feel uncomfortable around the families living there. Many have parents and grandparents who have been residents for many years. They depend on those parental units to ferry their kids to outside activities, drop off and pick up from school, while parents work

Tonight at Halloween in Brownwood, plenty of outside families, just like years past. Kids having fun, parents interacting with residents. Actually had cute twins about 4yo, offer a sucker from their bucket to us.

Just like any other retail, in TV, it could not succeed with just residents, and No families.

Stu from NYC
10-27-2023, 06:57 PM
Just a curious question. Will it be proper for us "old folks" to frequent Middleton's Downtown? Or, would that be considered crass and an invasion of their family-oriented world? I have relatives living there and when I visit, I get glares. The shocked "aren't you supposed to be in your area?" looks. They are not threatening but can be uncomfortable. So, are we supposed to keep to our area while they keep to theirs? I do not want any to feel invaded upon.

I would try restaurants there, no reason not to support businesses

Randall55
10-27-2023, 07:06 PM
Had zero issues going to visit in Middleton, everyone was friendly, kids were polite. Moltry Creek and the next championship, will be next to Middleton. When shopping in grocery, at TV, there are families, neither feels invaded space. Stopped by HS, and met with friendly faces. Kind of surprised you feel uncomfortable around the families living there. Many have parents and grandparents who have been residents for many years. They depend on those parental units to ferry their kids to outside activities, drop off and pick up from school, while parents work

Tonight at Halloween in Brownwood, plenty of outside families, just like years past. Kids having fun, parents interacting with residents. Actually had cute twins about 4yo, offer a sucker from their bucket to us.

Just like any other retail, in TV, it could not succeed with just residents, and No families. My experience has been similar. Everyone very friendly and helpful. But! When I walk in the park or come close to their amenities, it is a different story. ( No, I do not use their amenities.) Is their downtown considered an amenity? Or is it public like our town squares? It seems it is obviously public but I want to be respectful.

Freehiker
10-27-2023, 08:03 PM
4 Rivers is really good.

asianthree
10-27-2023, 08:48 PM
My experience has been similar. Everyone very friendly and helpful. But! When I walk in the park or come close to their amenities, it is a different story. ( No, I do not use their amenities.) Is their downtown considered an amenity? Or is it public like our town squares? It seems it is obviously public but I want to be respectful.

The retail center will be like all of TV is open to the public. It is supposed to be an open concept of shopping area with no motor vehicles. The hopes of retailers looking at the space is hoping to attract HS kids since it will be close to walking distance, for student employees. The culinary program is very strong, and should enhance learning experience for students.

As far as amenities, I do know grandparents take children to the pool, and park. But then they aren’t roaming around without grands in tow.

In todays world like it or not a single male or female walking around a new family area, parents may take pause and be more observant of a person near children. I wasn’t alone in any of their facilities, with either a grand or parental unit. Can’t really blame parents for being cautious especially with happenings in the past year.

Randall55
10-27-2023, 09:41 PM
The retail center will be like all of TV is open to the public. It is supposed to be an open concept of shopping area with no motor vehicles. The hopes of retailers looking at the space is hoping to attract HS kids since it will be close to walking distance, for student employees. The culinary program is very strong, and should enhance learning experience for students.

As far as amenities, I do know grandparents take children to the pool, and park. But then they aren’t roaming around without grands in tow.

In todays world like it or not a single male or female walking around a new family area, parents may take pause and be more observant of a person near children. I wasn’t alone in any of their facilities, with either a grand or parental unit. Can’t really blame parents for being cautious especially with happenings in the past year.
That is probably it. I was looking at lots in Moultrie Creek then went over to the Middleton retail area to get an idea of what was coming. I was walking by myself. From now on, I will have my wife, grandkids, son, or daughter-in-law with me. Like I said, I want to be respectful when I am there.

Bogie Shooter
10-28-2023, 07:02 AM
Just a curious question. Will it be proper for us "old folks" to frequent Middleton's Downtown? Or, would that be considered crass and an invasion of their family-oriented world? I have relatives living there and when I visit, I get glares. The shocked "aren't you supposed to be in your area?" looks. They are not threatening but can be uncomfortable. So, are we supposed to keep to our area while they keep to theirs? I do not want any to feel invaded upon.

What an irrational train of thought…………

Randall55
10-28-2023, 12:24 PM
What an irrational train of thought…………Middleton is being sold by the Villages as a community for those who work in the Villages. We have rules for children under 19 in our community. I do not have a problem if they set rules and standards for us.

We all have grandkids and there are many children who live in our area. However, we do not see a large number of them in our squares, restaurants, etc. I want to respect their space the way they respect ours. What is irrational about that?

coffeebean
10-28-2023, 01:17 PM
Welcome 4 Rivers BBQ Style Restaurant - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/2023/10/welcome-4rivers-bbq-style-restaurant/)

The newest addition coming to downtown Middleton, 4 Rivers Smokehouse, brings mouthwatering BBQ flavors with a fast-casual dining experience. We’re excited to welcome 4 Rivers Smokehouse to our community.

4 Rivers Smokehouse is a family-owned, faith-based restaurant founded in 2004, originally supporting local schools, churches, and charitable organizations – well until they outgrew their garage. In October of 2009, they opened their first restaurant in Winter Park, Florida with a line out the door in the first hour.

Get ready for some great flavors coming to our community and follow along as we bring you more updates on what is on the horizon and set to come to Middleton.

. . .

So, no Cody's down south? Surprised they didn't want that location.

Altavia
10-28-2023, 01:30 PM
So, no Cody's down south? Surprised they didn't want that location.

Maybe Eastport?

asianthree
10-28-2023, 01:39 PM
So, no Cody's down south? Surprised they didn't want that location.

I among others hope there are New restaurants coming, instead of just a repeat of same mediocre restaurants over and over

photo1902
10-28-2023, 01:49 PM
What an irrational train of thought…………

You really can’t make this stuff up.

Altavia
10-28-2023, 02:03 PM
I among others hope there are New restaurants coming, instead of just a repeat of same mediocre restaurants over and over

Got that in the first announcement.

Altavia
10-28-2023, 02:13 PM
Middleton is being sold by the Villages as a community for those who work in the Villages. We have rules for children under 19 in our community. I do not have a problem if they set rules and standards for us.

We all have grandkids and there are many children who live in our area. However, we do not see a large number of them in our squares, restaurants, etc. I want to respect their space the way they respect ours. What is irrational about that?

Everything....

Bogie Shooter
10-28-2023, 03:13 PM
Middleton is being sold by the Villages as a community for those who work in the Villages. We have rules for children under 19 in our community. I do not have a problem if they set rules and standards for us.

We all have grandkids and there are many children who live in our area. However, we do not see a large number of them in our squares, restaurants, etc. I want to respect their space the way they respect ours. What is irrational about that?

We in our community (village) welcome everyone and do not ask for their respect. Don’t really know what that means…….rather irrational.
Maybe irrational is too kind a word.
Further what are the rules you have for under 19 that are different than anywhere in TV.

Randall55
10-28-2023, 05:24 PM
We in our community (village) welcome everyone and do not ask for their respect. Don’t really know what that means…….rather irrational.
Maybe irrational is too kind a word.
Further what are the rules you have for under 19 that are different than anywhere in TV.I do not have rules for children under 19. The community per the deed restrictions does. We are a group of retired people living in a retired community. It was sold to us in this manner. On this forum, posters have written about how upsetting it is to see young renters and children living in our community.

I understand their downtown will be public, like ours. But, the community is being sold as a place for those who work in the Villages. Many have bought homes with that thought in mind. The retired people are a much larger population and can easily overtake their downtown area. The young families will have no seats in the restaurants, music venues, etc. Maybe I think too much about other people and how my actions will affect them. But, irrational, NO!

I am not telling or demanding anyone on this forum to stay away from Middleton. I am asking one simple question. Will there be rules or standards for us older folks? Maybe, simple things like no alcohol in their music area only in our squares. If so, I have no problem abiding by them.

I have already learned one standard after posting my question. As an older gentlemen, do not walk the streets of Middleton, alone. I now understand this could cause concern for families with young children. I was investigating the area with ONLY my interests in mind. Now that I am aware, I will never do it again. What is wrong with asking a question? And, hoping for insightful responses? Aren't we all here to learn?

BrianL99
10-28-2023, 05:51 PM
What an irrational train of thought…………

One needs to consider the source and sometimes, the train is off the tracks.

Stu from NYC
10-28-2023, 09:15 PM
I do not have rules for children under 19. The community per the deed restrictions does. We are a group of retired people living in a retired community. It was sold to us in this manner. On this forum, posters have written about how upsetting it is to see young renters and children living in our community.

I understand their downtown will be public, like ours. But, the community is being sold as a place for those who work in the Villages. Many have bought homes with that thought in mind. The retired people are a much larger population and can easily overtake their downtown area. The young families will have no seats in the restaurants, music venues, etc. Maybe I think too much about other people and how my actions will affect them. But, irrational, NO!

I am not telling or demanding anyone on this forum to stay away from Middleton. I am asking one simple question. Will there be rules or standards for us older folks? Maybe, simple things like no alcohol in their music area only in our squares. If so, I have no problem abiding by them.

I have already learned one standard after posting my question. As an older gentlemen, do not walk the streets of Middleton, alone. I now understand this could cause concern for families with young children. I was investigating the area with ONLY my interests in mind. Now that I am aware, I will never do it again. What is wrong with asking a question? And, hoping for insightful responses? Aren't we all here to learn?

When our grandkids come and play in the street many of our neighbors are glad to see them. We will go to Middleton as we see no reason not to and will do our best to fit in.

PersonOfInterest
10-29-2023, 06:05 AM
I among others hope there are New restaurants coming, instead of just a repeat of same mediocre restaurants over and over

Yes, some different overpriced, mediocre restaurants would be nice.

PersonOfInterest
10-29-2023, 06:08 AM
When our grandkids come and play in the street many of our neighbors are glad to see them. We will go to Middleton as we see no reason not to and will do our best to fit in.

Maybe a game of stickball in a cul-de-sac would be a fun way to engage with the young folks.

GizmoWhiskers
10-29-2023, 06:08 AM
Welcome 4 Rivers BBQ Style Restaurant - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/2023/10/welcome-4rivers-bbq-style-restaurant/)

The newest addition coming to downtown Middleton, 4 Rivers Smokehouse, brings mouthwatering BBQ flavors with a fast-casual dining experience. We’re excited to welcome 4 Rivers Smokehouse to our community.

4 Rivers Smokehouse is a family-owned, faith-based restaurant founded in 2004, originally supporting local schools, churches, and charitable organizations – well until they outgrew their garage. In October of 2009, they opened their first restaurant in Winter Park, Florida with a line out the door in the first hour.

Get ready for some great flavors coming to our community and follow along as we bring you more updates on what is on the horizon and set to come to Middleton.

. . .
Exciting and a great place to eat!

Nervous about fitting in?? Nah, wear your wrinkles with pride, its a wonderful family atmosphere. Tomorrow's generation needs all the first-hand wisdom it can get... then again so do we old folk!

Snowbug
10-29-2023, 06:25 AM
Downtown - Middleton (https://mymiddleton.com/lifestyle/downtown/)

Downtown businesses on the horizon. We’re well on our way to bringing these great businesses to you in Middleton!

Enjoy dining options such as:


Drive Through Coffee Shop
4 Rivers Smokehouse
Sports Bar
Family Gastro Pub
Ice Cream Shop
Sushi Restaurant
Family Italian Restaurant
Sub Shop
Breakfast & Lunch Restaurant
Pizzeria


Enjoy shopping & service options such as:

Grocery Store
Bank
Fuel/Convenience Store
Pharmacy

What about a Walmart and Home Depot? We need these south of 44.

Regorp
10-29-2023, 10:05 AM
Just a curious question. Will it be proper for us "old folks" to frequent Middleton's Downtown? Or, would that be considered crass and an invasion of their family-oriented world? I have relatives living there and when I visit, I get glares. The shocked "aren't you supposed to be in your area?" looks. They are not threatening but can be uncomfortable. So, are we supposed to keep to our area while they keep to theirs? I do not want any to feel invaded upon.

Our son lives there so we would not hesitate to go enjoy the area. The young come to enjoy this area, so no reason for the old to enjoy there area. It will be quite a while before any businesses are open, so Middleton residents will continue to use TV businesses.

Chi-Town
10-29-2023, 10:15 AM
Maybe a game of stickball in a cul-de-sac would be a fun way to engage with the young folks.

Especially the young folks from Brooklyn.

asianthree
11-07-2023, 07:34 AM
Since 4 Rivers is, order food at the counter, and pay, pick up your food at the register, with little waiting. Should make many happy with a quick service restaurant.

They do have employees who will take a tray with you to the table, if one is not capable of carrying the tray themselves.

While we are big fans of Mission, We do like 4 Rivers, smoked sausage, lean beef (upgrade in price), and CherryWine soda at the beverage machine.