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Tvflguy
11-05-2023, 09:31 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-05-2023, 09:42 AM
The only clocks I can think of in the house that don't change automatically is the old 1970's analogue we keep in the living room, and the one built into the microwave oven.

Dusty_Star
11-05-2023, 09:49 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

I don't change my clocks. I just wait for the time to catch back up with me in the spring & I wait for the legislation to pass. I started ignoring the 'fall back' years ago mainly for my dogs. They eat at regular times & don't care to wait an extra hour because of silly human rules. I first used to switch the times the dogs were fed ie: 6 am is now 5 am, but eventually found it easier to just ignore the change. The only times I need to think about it is for appointments (friends, etc) & that was easier than thinking about it two times each & every day.

retiredguy123
11-05-2023, 09:52 AM
The only clocks I can think of in the house that don't change automatically is the old 1970's analogue we keep in the living room, and the one built into the microwave oven.
What about the regular oven and the vehicle?

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-05-2023, 10:03 AM
What about the regular oven and the vehicle?

No idea. I never look at those clocks. So it really doesn't matter what's displayed on them :) Also, I don't keep my car in my house. I said "the only clocks in the house..."

villagetinker
11-05-2023, 10:07 AM
Lets see, clock in bedroom, grandfather clock, digital clock in living room, 2 battery powered analog clocks, 2 vehicle clocks, irrigation clock, looking forward to the end of this confusion.

retiredguy123
11-05-2023, 10:19 AM
Lets see, clock in bedroom, grandfather clock, digital clock in living room, 2 battery powered analog clocks, 2 vehicle clocks, irrigation clock, looking forward to the end of this confusion.
I forgot about the irrigation clock.

photo1902
11-05-2023, 10:27 AM
The only clocks I can think of in the house that don't change automatically is the old 1970's analogue we keep in the living room, and the one built into the microwave oven.

I was thinking the same thing. Literally the only clock to change is the oven (we disabled the microwave clock). My vehicles change on their own and the Rachio irrigation controller does it based on our wifi.

Kenswing
11-05-2023, 11:03 AM
I had to change our grandfather clock and the one on the microwave. Everything else adjusts itself. That’s two minutes of my life I’ll never get back. Oh the horror.

Ecuadog
11-05-2023, 11:13 AM
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

Kenswing
11-05-2023, 11:15 AM
I also changed out the batteries in the smoke detectors. That was another fifteen minutes down the drain.

retiredguy123
11-05-2023, 11:21 AM
I also changed out the batteries in the smoke detectors. That was another fifteen minutes down the drain.
Alkaline batteries have a 5-10 year shelf life, when used as a backup battery. Changing them every 6 months seems like overkill.

New Englander
11-05-2023, 11:22 AM
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

I do every day.

Two Bills
11-05-2023, 11:25 AM
Remember when a lad one of my aunts going through all the hour, and half hour chimes to change her Hall Clock to go back an hour, until I suggested stopping the thing for an hour.
All the years she had never sussed it!

tophcfa
11-05-2023, 11:26 AM
It’s not changing the clocks that bothers me, it’s the loss of daylight in the late afternoon/evening. I’m not an early morning person so there is no advantage to the sun coming up earlier, just the disadvantage of it getting dark our earlier. I suppose those that are early risers have a different point of view. Moving the clocks back is especially painful for us part timers stuck up north this time of the year. The sun sets a full hour earlier at or northern home compared to the Villages, and in mid December the sun sets at the ridiculously early time of 4:18 In the afternoon.

Kenswing
11-05-2023, 11:28 AM
Alkaline batteries have a 5-10 year shelf life, when used as a backup battery. Changing them every 6 months seems like overkill.

It had been two years. The originals lasted less than a year. We’re going to be doing some traveling so I didn’t want to take the chance of any of them croaking while we were gone.

ThirdOfFive
11-05-2023, 11:41 AM
We must be getting old. We're complaining about having to re-set our clocks. Doesn't seem all that long ago that we had to WIND them every day.

fishon
11-05-2023, 12:08 PM
The clock in the golf cart is the worst.
I now take out the little battery behind the speedometer and reinstall it at noon.
Easy.

Rainger99
11-05-2023, 02:08 PM
The sun sets a full hour earlier at or northern home compared to the Villages, and in mid December the sun sets at the ridiculously early time of 4:18 In the afternoon.

But what time does the sun set up north in June? Probably an hour later than here in the Villages.

Tvflguy
11-05-2023, 03:25 PM
Geeeez. I must be really old.

About 8 of our “things” auto
Time correct. Laptops, cars, phones and such. Then about 12 or so have to be manually set, oven , micro, 4 clocks, landline phone ( yes, old…), timers, other crap.

Manually, going “back” is a PITA.

Oh goody, six or so months and we go forward. Hope I’m still around to complain about that…

Topspinmo
11-05-2023, 03:35 PM
Only time I look at clock when I have appointments now. What big deal? Been happening since 1918.

Topspinmo
11-05-2023, 03:38 PM
Geeeez. I must be really old.

About 8 of our “things” auto
Time correct. Laptops, cars, phones and such. Then about 12 or so have to be manually set, oven , micro, 4 clocks, landline phone ( yes, old…), timers, other crap.

Manually, going “back” is a PITA.

Oh goody, six or so months and we go forward. Hope I’m still around to complain about that…

Yep, me too :pray:

Topspinmo
11-05-2023, 03:40 PM
It’s not changing the clocks that bothers me, it’s the loss of daylight in the late afternoon/evening. I’m not an early morning person so there is no advantage to the sun coming up earlier, just the disadvantage of it getting dark our earlier. I suppose those that are early risers have a different point of view. Moving the clocks back is especially painful for us part timers stuck up north this time of the year. The sun sets a full hour earlier at or northern home compared to the Villages, and in mid December the sun sets at the ridiculously early time of 4:18 In the afternoon.

Tilt the axis then when come to villages:1rotfl:

tophcfa
11-05-2023, 04:39 PM
But what time does the sun set up north in June? Probably an hour later than here in the Villages.

Not quite an hour, but close. We have days around June 21 when it’s still a little bit light at 9:15. I’m always outside working around our property until dark which bugs my wife. We don’t eat dinner together that time of year because I’m typically not eating until around 9:45 PM.

tophcfa
11-05-2023, 04:44 PM
We must be getting old. We're complaining about having to re-set our clocks. Doesn't seem all that long ago that we had to WIND them every day.

Still need to wind our Grandfather Clock once per month. The clock was built in 1886 and runs perfectly ever since Joe the clock guy in the Villages fixed her up for us. I finally graduated to a self winding Seiko dive watch.

Dave951
11-05-2023, 05:06 PM
Why don't we just stay on standard time

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-05-2023, 08:58 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Literally the only clock to change is the oven (we disabled the microwave clock). My vehicles change on their own and the Rachio irrigation controller does it based on our wifi.

Our sprinkler system is broken so we have it shut off. One more thing that doesn't need to know the time.

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-05-2023, 09:03 PM
But what time does the sun set up north in June? Probably an hour later than here in the Villages.

No, it doesn't. Florida is closer to the equator and has more daylight hours all year round compared to the northernmost states of the USA.

Bill14564
11-05-2023, 09:28 PM
No, it doesn't. Florida is closer to the equator and has more daylight hours all year round compared to the northernmost states of the USA.

Florida is closer to the equator and therefore states farther north have MORE hours of daylight during the summer months. There are places in Alaska where the sun does not set during the longest days - Florida can't match that.

tophcfa
11-05-2023, 10:06 PM
No, it doesn't. Florida is closer to the equator and has more daylight hours all year round compared to the northernmost states of the USA.

Not true. At the equator every day of the year is about 12 hours of light. The further away from the equator you get, the days get progressively longer/shorter as you approach summer/winter respectively. The days are longer in New England than Florida in the spring/summer and shorter in the fall/winter. The earth’s axil tilt of about 23.5 degrees causes this seasonal change.

MorTech
11-06-2023, 02:15 AM
It is odd we still do this time change....Here is the "reason".

Why Daylight Saving Time Is Stupid - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/no_author/why-daylight-saving-time-is-stupid/)

Two Bills
11-06-2023, 03:04 AM
I am old enough to remember 'Double Summertime' when clocks went forward two hours during WW2. in UK
Silly when you look back, as the amount of daylight was still the same, you just started work an hour later!
I too vote for Standard Time.

Sabella
11-06-2023, 04:45 AM
What leadership?

PersonOfInterest
11-06-2023, 05:19 AM
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

Nope. Not since I started carrying a phone.

bowlingal
11-06-2023, 05:43 AM
It's no big deal to change the clocks. We do not live in a war zone. so count your blessings.

Bearlythere
11-06-2023, 05:50 AM
Very simple folks ,check Accu weather app. Comparing up north to Florida. First day of spring and first day of fall , daylight hours dang near the same .First day summer and first day of winter nearly 1hour difference. Florida having less daylight in June , more in winter.

mntlblok
11-06-2023, 06:31 AM
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

The wifey has to change mine for me. They don't seem to like being thrown against the wall (the watches).

mntlblok
11-06-2023, 06:56 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Trying to picture that "once annually" thing. :-)

Would personally prefer switching to the permanent "daylight savings time" version, preferring that it remain light out past 4:30pm come the winter solstice period.

The "midnight sun" aspect is interesting and a great point, but the "up north" thing would seem more related to where "east-west" one may reside "up north". I believe the issue is whether one lives nearer the eastern or western border of his time zone. The drive-in movie couldn't start in Louisville, KY, until nearly 10pm come summer solstice as we were on the far western edge of the eastern time zone.

Time zones and jet lag sorts of things are, to me, just about as difficult as general relativity, so I don't even try. :-) Oh, and not all time zones around the world even cut off "on the hour". Half Hour and 45-Minute Time Zones (https://www.timeanddate.com/time/time-zones-interesting.html) Fascinating subject.

Had to google it as my memory was fuzzy, but it was close:

"However, the whole country observes the same local time. In theory, China could have five time zones, but the country has only one official time zone. In spite of being almost the same size as the continental USA, China has only one official time zone".

Over-thinking it, again. . . :-)

ddesjardin
11-06-2023, 07:15 AM
How much time did it take to complete this "arduous" task? Does this twice-annual task actually impact your quality of life enough to complain in this forum? I hear a similar complaints when retirees gripe about a 30 minute wait for a dinner table at popular restaurants upon their 6 p.m. arrival or when there is more than one additional shopper in the grocery checkout line or a line of pickleball players awaiting their turn. I've heard that prisoners muse "all they have is time." Extra time and lots of it is one of the greatest gifts in retirement. I changed all my clocks in less than ten minutes...including the irrigation controller and SUV.
Probably most of us completed this semiannual chore in even less time...giving us lots of additional time to practice PATIENCE! Hoping everyone has an outstanding day!

Switter
11-06-2023, 07:22 AM
It’s not changing the clocks that bothers me, it’s the loss of daylight in the late afternoon/evening. I’m not an early morning person so there is no advantage to the sun coming up earlier, just the disadvantage of it getting dark our earlier. I suppose those that are early risers have a different point of view. Moving the clocks back is especially painful for us part timers stuck up north this time of the year. The sun sets a full hour earlier at or northern home compared to the Villages, and in mid December the sun sets at the ridiculously early time of 4:18 In the afternoon.

^^^^
This.

I'd rather lose the time in the morning. Right now at 7 AM it's 46° outside. I moved to Florida to not be outside when it's 46°, so gaining daylight in the morning and losing it in the evening (when it's warmer) is a net loss to me. i'm hoping someday they scrap daylight savings altogether.

Zenmama18
11-06-2023, 07:32 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

I changed all the clocks but one and that was the one I looked at before leaving the house for a baby shower. Of course I was an hour early!

nn0wheremann
11-06-2023, 07:33 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.
Leave it on Standard Time, or move the Chang dates back to April and October. 8:00 sunrises are a bummer.

mntlblok
11-06-2023, 07:38 AM
^^^^
This.

I'd rather lose the time in the morning. Right now at 7 AM it's 46° outside. I moved to Florida to not be outside when it's 46°, so gaining daylight in the morning and losing it in the evening (when it's warmer) is a net loss to me. i'm hoping someday they scrap daylight savings altogether.
Scrap it or make it permanent?

Still finding this subject particularly fascinating. Journeyed even *further* down that rabbit hole and found *this* fun fact. Had no idea!

"Ancient civilizations adjusted daily schedules to the sun more flexibly than DST does, often dividing daylight into 12 hours regardless of daytime, so that each daylight hour became progressively longer during spring and shorter during autumn.[17] For example, the Romans kept time with water clocks that had different scales for different months of the year; at Rome's latitude, the third hour from sunrise (hora tertia) started at 9:02 solar time and lasted 44 minutes at the winter solstice, but at the summer solstice it started at 6:58 and lasted 75 minutes.[18] From the 14th century onward, equal-length civil hours supplanted unequal ones, so civil time no longer varied by season. Unequal hours are still used in a few traditional settings, such as monasteries of Mount Athos[19] and in Jewish ceremonies.[20]"

Well, *I* thought it was interesting. :-)

airstreamingypsy
11-06-2023, 07:48 AM
Doesn't anybody wear a watch?

Not anymore. I carry mine around, it's so fancy it can take pictures and make phone calls.

bragones
11-06-2023, 08:02 AM
The clock in the golf cart is the worst.
I now take out the little battery behind the speedometer and reinstall it at noon.
Easy.

Too funny. I hope the clock eventually stops blinking/flashing at you screaming to be set.

Dusty_Star
11-06-2023, 08:28 AM
But what time does the sun set up north in June? Probably an hour later than here in the Villages.

Not for northeasterners, we are so far east of the Villages that the sun still sets later in the Villages than in the northeast in June.

Bill14564
11-06-2023, 08:37 AM
Not for northeasterners, we are so far east of the Villages that the sun still sets later in the Villages than in the northeast in June.

But you still have more hours of daylight. The hours may be shifted relative to the Villages (earlier sunrise and sunset) but more total hours.

RedChariot
11-06-2023, 09:00 AM
I hate all this. Prefer DST. Now it will get dark at 4:30 in the afternoon . Who cares if its light in in the early morning! Just pick one time and I'll learn to live with it. Enough already!

Burnie
11-06-2023, 09:02 AM
Back in the seventies (1974, I think) nationwide Daylight Savings Time remained for one year as an experiment to see how people would handle it. It lasted only one year mainly because people complained that it was too dangerous for children going to school in the dark (among other reasons).

mntlblok
11-06-2023, 09:09 AM
Back in the seventies (1974, I think) nationwide Daylight Savings Time remained for one year as an experiment to see how people would handle it. It lasted only one year mainly because people complained that it was too dangerous for children going to school in the dark (among other reasons).

Wow! How did I not know (remember) that! Cool! The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It - Washingtonian (https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-daylight-saving-time-in-the-70s-people-hated-it/)

mntlblok
11-06-2023, 09:16 AM
But you still have more hours of daylight. The hours may be shifted relative to the Villages (earlier sunrise and sunset) but more total hours.

Looks like it depends on the time of year. Tricky stuff. . .

Times for sunrise and sunset in the United States of America (https://www.worlddata.info/america/usa/sunset.php)

DonnaNi4os
11-06-2023, 09:30 AM
While you are at it don’t forget to change the batteries in your smoke detectors. In the world of potential serious events, stress from changing my clocks is at the very bottom of the list. As for there ever being a time when daylight savings time is year round please consider that children will be standing at bus stops in pitch dark.its never going to happen.

Steve
11-06-2023, 09:49 AM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Contact your Congressman. Florida passed the measure to stay on DSL all the time, but for some reason it has to be approved by the U-S House of Representatives. Pelosi wouldn't bring it to the floor of the House for a vote. Now we have a new speaker. Let's get it voted on to go into effect immediately. This getting dark at 5:30 is for the birds!

DonnaNi4os
11-06-2023, 10:22 AM
Every time you get upset at something, ask yourself if you were to die tomorrow, was it worth wasting your time being angry.

Topspinmo
11-06-2023, 10:48 AM
No, it doesn't. Florida is closer to the equator and has more daylight hours all year round compared to the northernmost states of the USA.

Has to do with the axis, sun not going around the equator.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 12:15 PM
Lets see, clock in bedroom, grandfather clock, digital clock in living room, 2 battery powered analog clocks, 2 vehicle clocks, irrigation clock, looking forward to the end of this confusion.

I always forget the irrigation clock. Thanks Tinker. Going to change that one now.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 12:23 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Literally the only clock to change is the oven (we disabled the microwave clock). My vehicles change on their own and the Rachio irrigation controller does it based on our wifi.

I wish I had so few clocks to change........

Battery clock in master bath, 2 alarm clocks in the master bedroom, large clock in LR, battery clock in kitchen, microwave, stove, battery clock in foyer, battery clock in hall bathroom, battery clock in garage, three timers in the house that operated lamps, battery clock in den, 2 clock radios and timer outside for holiday lights. Let's not forget the irrigation clock!

What a royal PIA to do this twice a year. It doesn't matter which time can be permanent (standard or DST)..........................just pick one!!!!

Tvflguy
11-06-2023, 12:26 PM
I wish I had so few clocks to change........

Battery clock in master bath, 2 alarm clocks in the master bedroom, large clock in LR, battery clock in kitchen, microwave, stove, battery clock in foyer, battery clock in hall bathroom, battery clock in garage, three timers in the house that operated lamps, battery clock in den, 2 clock radios and timer outside for holiday lights. Let's not forget the irrigation clock!

What a royal PIA to do this twice a year. It doesn't matter which time can be permanent (standard or DST)..........................just pick one!!!!

I’m the OP. And I thought I had a job with 14 or so clocks to reset. PIA is so right.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 12:31 PM
Geeeez. I must be really old.

About 8 of our “things” auto
Time correct. Laptops, cars, phones and such. Then about 12 or so have to be manually set, oven , micro, 4 clocks, landline phone ( yes, old…), timers, other crap.

Manually, going “back” is a PITA.

Oh goody, six or so months and we go forward. Hope I’m still around to complain about that…

Spring forward 2024 is March 10th. We are on standard time only 4 months.

retiredguy123
11-06-2023, 12:31 PM
While you are at it don’t forget to change the batteries in your smoke detectors. In the world of potential serious events, stress from changing my clocks is at the very bottom of the list. As for there ever being a time when daylight savings time is year round please consider that children will be standing at bus stops in pitch dark.its never going to happen.
Typically, the batteries that come with your smoke detectors are alkaline batteries which have a 5 to 10 year shelf life. They are only used in smoke detectors for backup purposes when you have a power failure. They are rarely used at all. Also, when the battery becomes weak, the smoke detector will start to beep to alert you to replace the battery. So, in my opinion, routinely replacing the batteries every 6 months, as some recommend, is an outdated recommendation. If you want even longer lasting smoke detectors, you can replace the batteries with lithium batteries that are designed to last 10 years or longer.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 12:38 PM
It is odd we still do this time change....Here is the "reason".

Why Daylight Saving Time Is Stupid - LewRockwell (https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/11/no_author/why-daylight-saving-time-is-stupid/)

My vote is for Standard Time, but, as I said in an earlier post........I'll take anytime.......just pick one!!!!!

Ecuadog
11-06-2023, 01:32 PM
Typically, the batteries that come with your smoke detectors are alkaline batteries which have a 5 to 10 year shelf life. They are only used in smoke detectors for backup purposes when you have a power failure. They are rarely used at all. Also, when the battery becomes weak, the smoke detector will start to beep to alert you to replace the battery. So, in my opinion, routinely replacing the batteries every 6 months, as some recommend, is an outdated recommendation. If you want even longer lasting smoke detectors, you can replace the batteries with lithium batteries that are designed to last 10 years or longer.

Bingo.

I installed nine Energizer Ultimate Lithium (10 yr) batteries in 12/2016 and made a note in my Google calendar to replace them all in 12/2026. So far, only two have failed earlier than expected. One in 11/2021 and one in 10/2023.

fishon
11-06-2023, 01:51 PM
If you have eight smoke detectors that’s a 25% failure rate to date. That is not acceptable.

ThirdOfFive
11-06-2023, 03:00 PM
Still need to wind our Grandfather Clock once per month. The clock was built in 1886 and runs perfectly ever since Joe the clock guy in the Villages fixed her up for us. I finally graduated to a self winding Seiko dive watch.
My wife got me an Apple watch. Don't trust it: it talks to me, tells me when it is too noisy (like I don't know!), reminds me to stand up. Tells me when my phone is ringing. For all I know it is spying on me too.

Like having a second wife on my arm.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 03:36 PM
Wow! How did I not know (remember) that! Cool! The US Tried Permanent Daylight Saving Time in the ’70s. People Hated It - Washingtonian (https://www.washingtonian.com/2022/03/15/the-us-tried-permanent-daylight-saving-time-in-the-70s-people-hated-it/)

So, why not try permanent standard time?

retiredguy123
11-06-2023, 03:51 PM
Bingo.

I installed nine Energizer Ultimate Lithium (10 yr) batteries in 12/2016 and made a note in my Google calendar to replace them all in 12/2026. So far, only two have failed earlier than expected. One in 11/2021 and one in 10/2023.
Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

Ecuadog
11-06-2023, 04:12 PM
Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

Yeah... I installed new detectors at the same time because the old ones were long overdue.

Bill14564
11-06-2023, 04:33 PM
So, why not try permanent standard time?

Permanent standard time or permanent saving time - someone is going to be unhappy. But I agree, pick one and stick with it. Personally, standard time is more logical since it aligns with the earth and sun are doing but hey, we're America, we make our own rules.

Dusty_Star
11-06-2023, 04:46 PM
I hate all this. Prefer DST. Now it will get dark at 4:30 in the afternoon . Who cares if its light in in the early morning! Just pick one time and I'll learn to live with it. Enough already!

I prefer Daylight Savings Time too. Fortunately, that is the one that is currently in the bills to stop this nonsense.

coffeebean
11-06-2023, 05:25 PM
Yeah... I installed new detectors at the same time because the old ones were long overdue.

Equadog.....Who is the woman in your current avatar? She looks to be an actress from the 40s. She is beautiful.

Ecuadog
11-06-2023, 05:47 PM
Equadog.....Who is the woman in your current avatar? She looks to be an actress from the 40s. She is beautiful.

Today, it is Gene Tierney.

kcrazorbackfan
11-06-2023, 08:14 PM
grrrrr. That time of the year. Finally done with all of ours. I think. Worse in Fall Back.

Why can’t our Leadership pass a simple one-time annually?

OK, I’d better get ready to change all our clocks AGAIN in the Spring.

grrrrr.

Our “Leadership” doesn’t, won’t, can’t listen to their constituents.

mtdjed
11-06-2023, 10:21 PM
Alkaline batteries have a 5-10 year shelf life, when used as a backup battery. Changing them every 6 months seems like overkill.

But they are not on the shelf. They are constantly checking the status. I always wait until one starts beeping and then change them all. That first one always happens in the middle of the night in our bedroom.

retiredguy123
11-07-2023, 04:33 AM
But they are not on the shelf. They are constantly checking the status. I always wait until one starts beeping and then change them all. That first one always happens in the middle of the night in our bedroom.
I agree. Note that the beeping or chirping sound is triggered by a drop in voltage across the battery terminals. The chirping is not powered by the battery, but by your house power. Even if your remove the battery, the chirping will continue until you replace the battery.

retiredguy123
11-07-2023, 07:08 AM
If you have eight smoke detectors that’s a 25% failure rate to date. That is not acceptable.
I have 4 smoke detectors with alkaline batteries. In 8 years, only one has failed and started to chirp. I replaced all 4 batteries. But, replacing every battery on a regular basis that haven't failed seems like a wasted effort, especially since you need to use a ladder, and the detectors are designed to alert you when they need to be replaced. I can understand those who are snowbirds and may want to prevent a failure while they are away.

Bay Kid
11-07-2023, 07:16 AM
Note that the newer smoke alarms will not even allow you to use the detector after 10 years. They have a built-in timer and the device starts to beep until you replace the detector.

They will need to be dusted from time to time.

coffeebean
11-07-2023, 07:20 PM
Today, it is Gene Tierney.
Thanks for the reply.

Who is the guy in the baret?

coffeebean
11-07-2023, 07:27 PM
Found another clock to change today.......the Watts hot water re-circulation pump has a timer. I think we are done now.

La lamy
11-07-2023, 07:28 PM
This year worked out great, I left for TV right after the time change so no need to change all the clocks. They'll be perfect when I get back in late spring!

thelegges
11-07-2023, 08:18 PM
What about the regular oven and the vehicle?

My car automatically changes time just like our cells, and all of our electronics. Only clock manual is range and microwave, which I don’t bother with.

Ecuadog
11-07-2023, 08:21 PM
Thanks for the reply.

Who is the guy in the baret?

Today, it is Leonard Cohen.

Topspinmo
11-07-2023, 11:43 PM
Today, it is Leonard Cohen.

Things are going to slide——slide in all directions!

Topspinmo
11-07-2023, 11:44 PM
If you don’t look at all those clocks does it really matter what time the show?

Topspinmo
11-07-2023, 11:48 PM
Why don't we just stay on standard time


Why can’t we just follow the rules? :loco:

Bay Kid
11-09-2023, 09:29 AM
Why don't we just split the difference 30 minutes and leave time alone?

JMintzer
11-09-2023, 07:28 PM
I forgot about the irrigation clock.

The Rachio does it automatically...:thumbup:

JMintzer
11-09-2023, 07:56 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FC7bMIMXEAQNzry.jpg

shaw8700@outlook.com
11-09-2023, 08:57 PM
Coming from Arizona, hopefully soon, this one thing I honestly love about where I live. I don’t have to worry is it this Sunday or the next when it comes to the time change. I’m going to have to get used to this all over again.