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Normal
11-06-2023, 03:00 PM
Most of properties in The Villages do not pay city taxes (can check on the Sumter County Treasurer tax bill research site). We pay about 1,300 per year to the distant town of Wildwood. I’m wondering where our tax money goes that most others near us do not pay? What are the benefits of being incorporated within the tax roles? Is this just a scam to get permissions for the developer to build? Should unincorporated Villages be incorporated into adjacent towns to boost the tax roles and assist the county? An unincorporated surcharge to the county?

RPDaly
11-06-2023, 03:04 PM
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retiredguy123
11-06-2023, 03:08 PM
Most of properties in The Villages do not pay city taxes (can check on the Sumter County Treasurer tax bill research site). We pay about 1,300 per year to the distant town of Wildwood. I’m wondering where our tax money goes that most others near us do not pay? What are the benefits of being incorporated within the tax roles? Is this just a scam to get permissions for the developer to build? Should unincorporated Villages be incorporated into adjacent towns to boost the tax roles and assist the county?
The Villages of Pine Ridge and Pine Hills are in the city of Fruitland Park, and they pay city taxes.

Normal
11-06-2023, 03:11 PM
The Villages of Pine Ridge and Pine Hills are in the city of Fruitland Park, and they pay city taxes.

I know some do besides of us, but a majority don’t. Generally south of 44 pays to Wildwood. It put in more than a few addresses into the Sumter Tax system and most homes in the central area do not.

Rainger99
11-06-2023, 03:20 PM
I know some do besides of us, but a majority don’t. Generally south of 44 pays to Wildwood.

Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??

Normal
11-06-2023, 03:23 PM
Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??
For sure fire stations and city water. You do use the streets there more than we do and don’t pay a bond. Even a bigger mystery is why do we pay Leesburg electric for electricity? Maybe the lines need redrawn? Maybe get disincorporation on the ballot while Villages numbers exceed the actual township?

Bill14564
11-06-2023, 03:26 PM
Most of properties in The Villages do not pay city taxes (can check on the Sumter County Treasurer tax bill research site). We pay about 1,300 per year to the distant town of Wildwood. I’m wondering where our tax money goes that most others near us do not pay? What are the benefits of being incorporated within the tax roles? Is this just a scam to get permissions for the developer to build? Should unincorporated Villages be incorporated into adjacent towns to boost the tax roles and assist the county? An unincorporated surcharge to the county?

Most (all?) of the Villages in Sumter County north of 44 are not in any incorporated area and only pay Sumter County tax.

The City of Wildwood incorporated a lot of the area south of 44 so those Villagers pay Wildwood tax. Areas in Lake and Marion counties might have city taxes too (it sounds like Pine Hills does).

There was another thread a year or so ago asking what benefit Villagers received for paying Wildwood taxes. It didn't apply to me so I don't recall if there was ever a good answer.

To me, it feels like Wildwood (and Leesburg) saw the writing on the wall and took steps to incorporate the areas before the Villages built on them. It is not inconceivable that there was an agreement between the Villages and the cities to facilitate the incorporation in return for favorable zoning decisions but I have nothing to back that up.

Should unincorporated Villages be grabbed up by the city of Wildwood to fatten their tax purses? Absolutely not! The Villages are a boon to Wildwood without additional taxation. Wildwood provides little (nothing?) to the Villages yet receives business income from them. If there are Wildwood services that I could receive if I paid additional taxes I don't know what they are and I'm certainly not missing them.

Unincorporated surcharge to the county? That would be called a tax increase; the last substantial increase was added in 2018. There are three ex-commissioners who can attribute their defeat at least partially to that surcharge.

golfing eagles
11-06-2023, 03:27 PM
Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??

The joy of living within the city limits of Wildwood.

What do those living in the 5 boroughs of NYC get for their city taxes that residents of surrounding towns don't get? More crime, homeless on the street, litter, pollution, and hookers for a start. So, I guess you get what you pay for:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

retiredguy123
11-06-2023, 03:35 PM
My Federal income tax bill is higher than everything else that I spend money on combined.

Am I complaining? Yes, I am.

Toymeister
11-06-2023, 03:39 PM
What do TV residents get from the Wildwood city tax? More police presence in the form of traffic enforcement and little else.

Dusty_Star
11-06-2023, 04:55 PM
What do TV residents get from the Wildwood city tax? More police presence in the form of traffic enforcement and little else.

I was going to say something similar for Pine Ridge & Pine Hills, they get to pay the higher rates in Lake county & taxes to Fruitland Park & they get: police who lurk near stop signs looking for Villagers who don't come to a complete stop & thereby garner a hefty fine. (I'm not supporting the Villagers who only slow at stop signs, I think everyone should stop. But I also don't support those picking the low hanging fruit).

Topspinmo
11-06-2023, 05:00 PM
And we thought we escaped outlandish taxes. They get it one way or the other.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=valVixMpzQY

Bilyclub
11-06-2023, 07:58 PM
Most of the Villages land that is in Wildwood was annexed by Wildwood when the old owners of the land agreed to it. Old timers could tell you the stories about how Wildwood dealt with the developer when they were eyeing what is now Trailwinds/Beaumont.

GizmoWhiskers
11-07-2023, 04:58 AM
I would say Wildwood has taken money from the Federal Gov and is mass populating the area now with the "affordable" housing you see popping up everywhere. T V is boosting $$ for Wildwood while T V sees little if no return. Just a lot more traffic and challenged medical care. Hey whatever happened to that massive southern end hospital planned the T V used for sales ? Oh... same predestined fate as the Brownwood theater? Lol

HoosierPa
11-07-2023, 05:18 AM
Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??

nothing much

HoosierPa
11-07-2023, 05:20 AM
I would say Wildwood has taken money from the Federal Gov and is mass populating the area now with the "affordable" housing you see popping up everywhere. T V is boosting $$ for Wildwood while T V sees little if no return. Just a lot more traffic and challenged medical care. Hey whatever happened to that massive southern end hospital planned the T V used for sales ? Oh... same predestined fate as the Brownwood theater? Lol

UF Hospital pulled out because of the Miller / Search / Esteep impact fees promised. Not the fault of TV

Sandy and Ed
11-07-2023, 06:03 AM
My Federal income tax bill is higher than everything else that I spend money on combined.

Am I complaining? Yes, I am.
Join the club. Probably 80% of folks here can claim the same. More you pay in income taxes means the more you earn. It’s all relative.

lorilynch
11-07-2023, 07:01 AM
Most of the Villages land that is in Wildwood was annexed by Wildwood when the old owners of the land agreed to it. Old timers could tell you the stories about how Wildwood dealt with the developer when they were eyeing what is now Trailwinds/Beaumont.I am newcomer and would like to know more why that area is not part of The Villages

Bilyclub
11-07-2023, 07:02 AM
UF Hospital pulled out because of the Miller / Search / Esteep impact fees promised. Not the fault of TV

Not really. The proposed impact fees were quickly blown out of the water by Hage getting a bill passed that blocked raising the impact fees. The official and more likely reason is that they couldn't staff it if built.

courtyard
11-07-2023, 07:08 AM
The only way to reduce your Wildwood City taxes is to run for City Council positions. They are the ones that have the capability of reducing taxes. Remember 'no taxation without representation.'

golfing eagles
11-07-2023, 07:11 AM
I am newcomer and would like to know more why that area is not part of The Villages

I can't spell it out in plain language on this site, but consider this: Who dominates the Wildwood City Council, how do most Villagers vote, and what happens to those in power in Wildwood if 4,000+ Villagers move inside the city limits.

Normal
11-07-2023, 07:32 AM
I can't spell it out in plain language on this site, but consider this: Who dominates the Wildwood City Council, how do most Villagers vote, and what happens to those in power in Wildwood if 4,000+ Villagers move inside the city limits.

We need to do what Ocala was afraid of. We can vote for all the city council positions if we pay taxes to Wildwood. There are more than a few Villagers who vote. It’s time to upend this 100 dollar plus a month tax when we get nothing.

Joe Elliot and Julian Green terms expire in December 2024. We will have to wait til 2026 to cancel out the rest. The mayor’s seat is over in 2026. We might as well have a lockstep Villages town.

NoMo50
11-07-2023, 07:32 AM
Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??

In reality, not much. Some of the "normal" services a city provides, such as fire protection, city water, sewer, parks, streetlights, green spaces, etc are not provided by Wildwood. They do provide police protection and street maintenance, though. However, I have not seen any Wildwood Police cars patrolling the neighborhoods, nor have I seen a Wildwood street sweeper. In all fairness, Wildwood does not officially take over street maintenance until the new streets are turned over to them by the District.

Villagesgal
11-07-2023, 07:33 AM
You should have checked this before you bought. There are beautiful areas in the Villages that only pay county property taxes. You really get nothing additional for your city tax dollars. Look at the Wildwood City map on line, they were smart and annexed everything they could before major growth started in the area. They went from being cash short to having millions in surplus by doing that. Smart financial planning for them, not so good for you. Next time check taxes and tax rates prior to buying.

G.R.I.T.S.
11-07-2023, 07:36 AM
Most of properties in The Villages do not pay city taxes (can check on the Sumter County Treasurer tax bill research site). We pay about 1,300 per year to the distant town of Wildwood. I’m wondering where our tax money goes that most others near us do not pay? What are the benefits of being incorporated within the tax roles? Is this just a scam to get permissions for the developer to build? Should unincorporated Villages be incorporated into adjacent towns to boost the tax roles and assist the county? An unincorporated surcharge to the county?

Municipalities have always viewed unincorporated areas as a way to broaden the tax base. The commercial/residential area on 466a was a coup for Wildwood. Improvements: police and fire are the most obvious. Wildwood has a tax decrease (I think) and as the base grows, rates should not increase at a high rate and may actually go down. Do we also pay schools taxes even though we have no children in the system? Yes. It’s property taxes, not the inhabitants taxes. It’s still much better than “up north” where I’m sure taxes were affordable and never went up! Oh and you always got what you paid for!😉

Ksfirefighter
11-07-2023, 07:39 AM
For sure fire stations and city water. You do use the streets there more than we do and don’t pay a bond. Even a bigger mystery is why do we pay Leesburg electric for electricity? Maybe the lines need redrawn? Maybe get disincorporation on the ballot while Villages numbers exceed the actual township?

We pay larger bonds. In St Cats it’s around $40k.
Why doesn’t Wildwood pay this?

Altavia
11-07-2023, 07:47 AM
We pay larger bonds. In St Cats it’s around $40k.
Why doesn’t Wildwood pay this?

https://youtu.be/nGwf7AcmyEI?si=h6pSH2Bmh2UOd6dK

https://youtu.be/A120kMpc2ug?si=50nPYiOlkbj__Gkz

4$ALE
11-07-2023, 07:57 AM
We pay larger bonds. In St Cats it’s around $40k.
Why doesn’t Wildwood pay this?

Residential Bond Assessment Information (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/finance/bond_info.aspx)

https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Finance/bond-financeFAQ.pdf

Normal
11-07-2023, 08:04 AM
https://youtu.be/nGwf7AcmyEI?si=h6pSH2Bmh2UOd6dK

https://youtu.be/A120kMpc2ug?si=50nPYiOlkbj__Gkz

Endorsement level info, but informative…what comes out at me is CDD 13 is in essence, its own town government. It does not need Wildwood, just like all the other CDDs. Since Wildwood has seen the wisdom to include the residents as voters, it’s time to take over the township through elections and permit the CDD to secede with its taxes.

They don’t get fire and do pay fire fees to the county
They are a qualified 55 and older set income community
They do have qualified infrastructure

The higher the number of residents, the better our voting turnout prospects

MandoMan
11-07-2023, 09:23 AM
Most (all?) of the Villages in Sumter County north of 44 are not in any incorporated area and only pay Sumter County tax.

The City of Wildwood incorporated a lot of the area south of 44 so those Villagers pay Wildwood tax. Areas in Lake and Marion counties might have city taxes too (it sounds like Pine Hills does).

There was another thread a year or so ago asking what benefit Villagers received for paying Wildwood taxes. It didn't apply to me so I don't recall if there was ever a good answer.

To me, it feels like Wildwood (and Leesburg) saw the writing on the wall and took steps to incorporate the areas before the Villages built on them. It is not inconceivable that there was an agreement between the Villages and the cities to facilitate the incorporation in return for favorable zoning decisions but I have nothing to back that up.

Should unincorporated Villages be grabbed up by the city of Wildwood to fatten their tax purses? Absolutely not! The Villages are a boon to Wildwood without additional taxation. Wildwood provides little (nothing?) to the Villages yet receives business income from them. If there are Wildwood services that I could receive if I paid additional taxes I don't know what they are and I'm certainly not missing them.

Unincorporated surcharge to the county? That would be called a tax increase; the last substantial increase was added in 2018. There are three ex-commissioners who can attribute their defeat at least partially to that surcharge.

Apart from driving on 301, what do I get out of Wildwood? I eat at Casa Agave. I use the Post Office several times a year. I use the dry cleaner a couple times a year. I bought a set of tires in Wildwood. That’s it. But. Wildwood is growing fast, trying to dilute its crime rate by building lots of new houses and apartment complexes. I think Wildwood picks up a lot of money from the Trailwinds Village / Pinellas Plaza developments. This leaves the city cash flush, so it’s being spent on a city park and multistory parking garage that few Villagers will use. But the new construction means they also need to put in a much larger sewage plant, which is expensive. I think the mayor and city council are making a lot of smart decisions to improve the city, but I don’t think Villagers who are in Wildwood will be getting value for money. I wonder if that annexation of what is now Villages houses into Wildwood was a deal that had to be made by the developer to get permission to build houses on what had been empty pasture land.

Dusty_Star
11-07-2023, 09:37 AM
We need to do what Ocala was afraid of. We can vote for all the city council positions if we pay taxes to Wildwood. There are more than a few Villagers who vote. It’s time to upend this 100 dollar plus a month tax when we get nothing.

Joe Elliot and Julian Green terms expire in December 2024. We will have to wait til 2026 to cancel out the rest. The mayor’s seat is over in 2026. We might as well have a lockstep Villages town.

You are right, the way to relief is to populate the city council. The two seats coming up next November will need candidates & a campaign, starting: now. The 2026 seats have a little more time for planing.

pauld315
11-07-2023, 11:00 AM
For historical purposes, the developer allowed Wildwood to annex the property in the southern area when they began building there in hopes that it would improve Wildwood by providing the town a lot of tax revenue. Wildwood, back then, was a lot worse than it is today in terms of poverty and crime. As The Villages expanded southward they wanted to rid the area of that reputation in order to calm nerves of potential buyers and visitors to Brownwood. If you are going to blame anyone, blame The Villages for encouraging it.

Bill14564
11-07-2023, 11:09 AM
For historical purposes, Gary Morse allowed Wildwood to annex the property from 466 A to 44 when they began building there in hopes that it would improve Wildwood by providing the town a lot of tax revenue. Wildwood, back then, was a lot worse than it is today in terms of poverty and crime. As The Villages expanded southward they wanted to rid the area of that reputation in order to calm nerves of potential buyers and visitors to Brownwood. If you are going to blame anyone, blame The Villages for encouraging it.

According to google maps, none of the Villages between 466A and 44 are in Wildwood. My property is between 466A and 44 but I do not pay Wildwood taxes.

Again from google maps, it appears a large section of the Villages south of 44 are within Wildwood. At the same time, it looks like Wildwood missed annexing a bunch of land. It would be interesting to learn how all that came to be.

Normal
11-07-2023, 11:25 AM
According to google maps, none of the Villages between 466A and 44 are in Wildwood. My property is between 466A and 44 but I do not pay Wildwood taxes.

Again from google maps, it appears a large section of the Villages south of 44 are within Wildwood. At the same time, it looks like Wildwood missed annexing a bunch of land. It would be interesting to learn how all that came to be.

The township line is quite crooked. I noticed how it goes around to engulf some spots like the Neighborhood Walmart. They wanted the steak and none of the salad.

RPDaly
11-07-2023, 12:01 PM
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retiredguy123
11-07-2023, 12:29 PM
According to google maps, none of the Villages between 466A and 44 are in Wildwood. My property is between 466A and 44 but I do not pay Wildwood taxes.

Again from google maps, it appears a large section of the Villages south of 44 are within Wildwood. At the same time, it looks like Wildwood missed annexing a bunch of land. It would be interesting to learn how all that came to be.
I think the Alden Bungalows near Brownwood are in Wildwood.

Altavia
11-07-2023, 12:55 PM
Apart from driving on 301, what do I get out of Wildwood? I eat at Casa Agave. I use the Post Office several times a year. I use the dry cleaner a couple times a year. I bought a set of tires in Wildwood. That’s it. But. Wildwood is growing fast, trying to dilute its crime rate by building lots of new houses and apartment complexes. I think Wildwood picks up a lot of money from the Trailwinds Village / Pinellas Plaza developments. This leaves the city cash flush, so it’s being spent on a city park and multistory parking garage that few Villagers will use. But the new construction means they also need to put in a much larger sewage plant, which is expensive. I think the mayor and city council are making a lot of smart decisions to improve the city, but I don’t think Villagers who are in Wildwood will be getting value for money. I wonder if that annexation of what is now Villages houses into Wildwood was a deal that had to be made by the developer to get permission to build houses on what had been empty pasture land.


Trailwinds could have been a regional attraction with proper planning and integration of businesses.

Some of the unique businesses from the current downtown could have been integrated into the planning using the downtown "revitalization" funds.

Instead we have Trailwinds with no apparent planning approving unconnected parcels with random, and several competing businesses within 100 yds of each other.

Instead a small fortune is invested planning for the "Downtown" boonoggle keeping 301 down the middle that echoed what the 1980's mindset local government who hired them wanted.

The development plan featuring a multistory parking garage is no more than rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

Plenty of opportunity to be innovative and do better but some long term vision would be required. This is where the Developer excels.

Bilyclub
11-07-2023, 01:05 PM
For historical purposes, the developer allowed Wildwood to annex the property in the southern area when they began building there in hopes that it would improve Wildwood by providing the town a lot of tax revenue. Wildwood, back then, was a lot worse than it is today in terms of poverty and crime. As The Villages expanded southward they wanted to rid the area of that reputation in order to calm nerves of potential buyers and visitors to Brownwood. If you are going to blame anyone, blame The Villages for encouraging it.

According to the developer the land was annexed before they owned it.

The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/life/the-villages-acquires-5600-acres-that-wildwood-annexed-13-years-ago)

Nana2Teddy
11-07-2023, 03:17 PM
You should have checked this before you bought. There are beautiful areas in the Villages that only pay county property taxes. You really get nothing additional for your city tax dollars. Look at the Wildwood City map on line, they were smart and annexed everything they could before major growth started in the area. They went from being cash short to having millions in surplus by doing that. Smart financial planning for them, not so good for you. Next time check taxes and tax rates prior to buying.
We knew about the Wildwood City tax before we bought a brand new home down south here last December. Our agent printed out a summary of our taxes, bond payment, etc, while we were still looking for a home. We are still way better off than we were in SoCal. No mortgage, similar property taxes, lower utilities bills, no state income tax, lower homeowners insurance, an active & fun retirement in a gorgeous setting. It’s all good for us here in paradise. 😍

kansasr
11-07-2023, 03:48 PM
The township line is quite crooked. I noticed how it goes around to engulf some spots like the Neighborhood Walmart. They wanted the steak and none of the salad.
The only parts of The Villages north of FL44 that are within the Wildwood City limits are Antrim Dells, Alden Bungalows and Atwood. The map you're looking at isn't very accurate.

mtdjed
11-07-2023, 04:29 PM
Can anyone explain what those of us living in Wildwood get for the $700 plus dollars we pay to Wildwood that those living outside of Wildwood don’t get??

It sounds like you live in Wildwood and as such you get the privilege of paying taxes to Wildwood. You should be asking them what you are getting. Police protection might be one.

Why would you expect that those of us that do not pay taxes to Wildwood would want to pay taxes to Wildwood, when we do not get any benefits from Wildwood?

Wildwood has done an extensive amount of annexing.

Bill14564
11-07-2023, 04:34 PM
The only parts of The Villages north of FL44 that are within the Wildwood City limits are Antrim Dells, Alden Bungalows and Atwood. The map you're looking at isn't very accurate.

What map are you looking at that shows those three within Wildwood?

RPDaly
11-07-2023, 04:39 PM
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kansasr
11-07-2023, 04:43 PM
What map are you looking at that shows those three within Wildwood?

The maps on the City of Wildwood web site

Bill14564
11-07-2023, 05:20 PM
The maps on the City of Wildwood web site

Thank you. Google maps fails on this one

Normal
11-07-2023, 05:32 PM
It looks like the city runs on an older model called the Commission Management Plan. A mayor commissioner and four commissioners pass and do most things for the city. Everything is done under Robert’s rules.

It’s true, The Villagers who pay taxes to Wildwood get nothing. Just a bill. The scales are tipping though, The Villages can and will eventually rule the town as they should. Businesses generate tax revenues mostly benefiting from The Villages. Offices are voted for as or in the at large system.

Bogie Shooter
11-07-2023, 05:37 PM
According to the developer the land was annexed before they owned it.

The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/life/the-villages-acquires-5600-acres-that-wildwood-annexed-13-years-ago)

OMG, introducing actual facts….

cjrjck
11-07-2023, 08:18 PM
The county and city taxes paid by residents in TV are definitely something that should be discussed among residents of TV. I am not against paying such taxes but I do question the amount paid and where they go. For instance, the property taxes collected by Sumter County. Why are the school taxes so high when none of those residents have kids in school? I have always supported such taxes but that was in areas where the population structure age-wise was more normal. I know Sumter County still has to build and maintain schools but not to the degree they would if TV was not a retirement community. So where does that money truly go? I suspect that if TV residents were not so affluent, the surrounding counties and many of the cities would not be so eager to get a piece of the action. I mean just look at Wildwood's city limits. Their intent was obvious.

Dgodin
11-08-2023, 07:48 PM
The historical area is incorporated into the town of Lady Lake. We not only pay taxes but also need to get construction permits from the town.

kansasr
11-08-2023, 08:46 PM
The historical area is incorporated into the town of Lady Lake. We not only pay taxes but also need to get construction permits from the town.

Not all parts of the historic district are within the Lady Lake City limits. There are a lot of plots in Silver Lake that are not and are within Lake County jurisdiction.

champion6
11-09-2023, 12:27 PM
This attachment compares the taxes charged for the various areas in TV. It doesn't compare what you get for these taxes.

VApeople
11-09-2023, 01:13 PM
We pay about 1,300 per year to the distant town of Wildwood.

I’m wondering where our tax money goes that most others near us do not pay?

The tax you pay to Wildwood probably goes to benefit Wildwood.

retiredguy123
11-09-2023, 01:19 PM
The tax you pay to Wildwood probably goes to benefit Wildwood.
LOL. If you live in Wildwood, wouldn't you want your taxes to benefit your city? If not, then move out of Wildwood.

Normal
11-09-2023, 06:10 PM
LOL. If you live in Wildwood, wouldn't you want your taxes to benefit your city? If not, then move out of Wildwood.

Yes, but since we only live in Wildwood on paper and receive no benefits except a bill, there seems to be a lack of reasonable jurisdiction.

GizmoWhiskers
11-09-2023, 09:20 PM
UF Hospital pulled out because of the Miller / Search / Esteep impact fees promised. Not the fault of TV
Wonder if they report that on the adorable trolley tour?

VApeople
11-10-2023, 07:52 AM
we only live in Wildwood on paper

I bet your house is located within the Wildwood city limits.

there seems to be a lack of reasonable jurisdiction.

What does that comment even mean?

cjrjck
11-10-2023, 01:42 PM
[QUOTE=Bilyclub;2272210]According to the developer the land was annexed before they owned it. QUOTE]

Of course it was. They aren't stupid. They knew it would likely get developed by someone at some time. Lucky for them it was TV. So they annexed while they could. No way they could do it now. Never would get voted in by TV residents.

Normal
11-10-2023, 02:52 PM
I bet your house is located within the Wildwood city limits.

On paper, so we can be taxed. It’s about a 15 minute drive to Wildwood. 5-7 min west to Morse, then only another 5 up to 44. After that about 5 to the Wildwood city limits.

What does that comment even mean?

It means that the Fire department jurisdiction doesn’t reach out this far. It means we are just being taken for monetary purposes with no city support.

It’s OK though, most if not all have the same opinion where we live. We are working to get two members on the City Government. No one agrees we should be paying Wildwood taxes when we aren’t supported by them. Thank The Villages, they gave us the support loophole.

Make sure to sign the candidate petition when you see it. It will save a little bit of cash for other purposes if you do. Vote Villages Candidates 2024!

OrangeBlossomBaby
11-10-2023, 02:59 PM
What do TV residents get from the Wildwood city tax? More police presence in the form of traffic enforcement and little else.

You get children of Wildwood getting educated, so that some day, if one of them ends up in a position of authority over you, you have a shot at an intelligent conversation with them instead of them just beating you over the head with a club.

You get town roads that get maintained, instead of left to erode, causing massive flooding to nearby properties the next time a storm blows through.

I mean it's a really weird question. What did residents on your block wherever you came from, get from the taxes paid by residents on the other side of town? If you lived near a town border, what did you get from that other town's taxes, that you didn't have to pay for? What did they get from the taxes you had to pay for?

golfing eagles
11-10-2023, 03:10 PM
You get children of Wildwood getting educated, so that some day, if one of them ends up in a position of authority over you, you have a shot at an intelligent conversation with them instead of them just beating you over the head with a club.

You get town roads that get maintained, instead of left to erode, causing massive flooding to nearby properties the next time a storm blows through.

I mean it's a really weird question. What did residents on your block wherever you came from, get from the taxes paid by residents on the other side of town? If you lived near a town border, what did you get from that other town's taxes, that you didn't have to pay for? What did they get from the taxes you had to pay for?

No surprises there. But A+ for consistency.

VApeople
11-10-2023, 03:32 PM
On paper, so we can be taxed. It’s about a 15 minute drive to Wildwood.

No it is not. When you walk out your front door, you are in Wildwood.

Normal
11-10-2023, 03:38 PM
No it is not. When you walk out your front door, you are in Wildwood.

Correction to the welcome to Wildwood sign. It is important to note that we have to pay for our own fire services, unless you live within the city limits. Then fire service is done by the city. A subcontract lists station 31s jurisdiction. The border for protection is in commissioner’s minutes.

Bill14564
11-10-2023, 03:45 PM
No it is not. When you walk out your front door, you are in Wildwood.

Are you saying you don't understand what "on paper" means? Yes, on the map it is Wildwood. Beyond that, when considering services, businesses, general bang for the buck, and look and feel, it is the Villages and not Wildwood.

Rainger99
11-10-2023, 04:03 PM
If there is a fire in the Villages that are within the City limits of Wildwood, does Wildwood provide fire services? Does Wildwood provide our water? Our sewers, our garbage collection? Do they provide EMS? Do they maintain our roads?

Rainger99
11-10-2023, 04:05 PM
The tax you pay to Wildwood probably goes to benefit Wildwood.

I always thought taxes were there to provide for the people - roads, police, fire, utilities, etc.

Normal
11-10-2023, 04:08 PM
I always thought taxes were there to provide for the people - roads, police, fire, utilities, etc.

Lol…utilities are Leesburg for us. If we get control of the city government through the elections, we can steer this in the right direction.

VApeople
11-10-2023, 04:49 PM
Are you saying you don't understand what "on paper" means?

No, I did not say that.

However, it is true that I do not understand what 'on paper' means.

kansasr
11-10-2023, 05:46 PM
If there is a fire in the Villages that are within the City limits of Wildwood, does Wildwood provide fire services? Does Wildwood provide our water? Our sewers, our garbage collection? Do they provide EMS? Do they maintain our roads?

No, Yes, No, No, Yes

Rainger99
11-10-2023, 05:49 PM
No, Yes, No, No, Yes

That seems inconsistent! Who makes these decisions?

Bogie Shooter
11-10-2023, 05:53 PM
[QUOTE=Rainger99;2273420]That seems inconsistent! Who makes these decisions?[/
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Ksfirefighter
12-17-2023, 03:01 PM
Most of the Villages land that is in Wildwood was annexed by Wildwood when the old owners of the land agreed to it. Old timers could tell you the stories about how Wildwood dealt with the developer when they were eyeing what is now Trailwinds/Beaumont.

What does the bond money go to?
Shouldn’t wildwood be picking up our bond?

Ksfirefighter
12-17-2023, 03:03 PM
If there is a fire in the Villages that are within the City limits of Wildwood, does Wildwood provide fire services? Does Wildwood provide our water? Our sewers, our garbage collection? Do they provide EMS? Do they maintain our roads?
What did our bond money pay for?

Papa_lecki
12-17-2023, 03:09 PM
What did our bond money pay for?

Quoting Goldwingnut, bond pays for
“This money paid for the infrastructure of the CDD during construction - roads, water and electrical distribution systems, retention ponds, etc.”

It’s pays for the original infrastructure, not the maintenance. If not bond, these costs would be embedded into the price of the home.

See this post
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/newbie-bond-questions-255036/

Normal
12-17-2023, 03:13 PM
Quoting Goldwingnut, bond pays for
“This money paid for the infrastructure of the CDD during construction - roads, water and electrical distribution systems, retention ponds, etc.”

It’s pays for the original infrastructure, not the maintenance. If not bond, these costs would be embedded into the price of the home.

See this post
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/newbie-bond-questions-255036/

True. The amenity fees and CDD residual take care of everything else. For sure, Wildwood takes care of nothing! Except maybe traffic tickets lol