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flsteve
11-06-2023, 08:16 PM
So I have recently taken up cigar smoking as a hobby and absolutely love it! My old habits as a "Foodie" and cook have faded away with my new diet, so cigars are my amazing new discovery. But, WHERE can I go to enjoy a cigar (hopefully amongst other afficianados) as far as businesses are concerned.
I love Garvino's and go there often. Arnold Palmer has a club that meets there outside. Are there any herfs in The Villages (Google it)? The cigar is truly a "mini vacation", and the fraternization among cigar smoking patrons is unmatched. I just would like to know of places where cigar smoking is welcomed and catered to so that I can go there. Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations my fellow Villagers!

retiredguy123
11-07-2023, 04:03 AM
There is a group of about 10 guys who smoke cigars on the front porch of the Belle Glade country club on Monday afternoon, around 3 to 4 PM or so.

Goldwingnut
11-07-2023, 05:11 AM
A good cigar, a glass of single malt, and good company are a hard to beat combination I must agree and a trio that I enjoyed for many a year.

Sadly, I know myself well enough and know that a good cigar has more than once foiled my efforts to stop smoking cigarettes so I have had to swear them off also, but I still love to aroma of a good cuban and still enjoy the occasional fellowship to solve the worlds problems.

There are a few groups of men and women here in TV that also enjoy a good smoke also, but it is a relatively small number and many meet at private residents and enjoy one of life's finer pleasantries on the privacy of their front porch or lanai. Go for an evening drive in the golf cart with your nose I bloodhound mode and within a few minutes you will sniff one of these groups out. Stop in and introduce yourself.

As far as a public venue, these are much rarer and unfortunately you will also have to deal with some of the self righteous moral police that walk the streets of our community wearing an overdose of their $3/gallon cheap perfume and complaining about the "smell" and spouting insults. (best solution I ever saw for this was on a cruise ship a few years ago in the smoking area, 2 women (won't use the word ladies, they weren't) came over and started lecturing a group of guys about their "disgusting habit", no strangers to the lectures, they all took a deep drawl and all at the same time engulfed the 2 in a huge cloud of fragrant aroma, the two left very quickly, and their problem solving continued unabated there after...). You can expect the same type of comments by the moral police here to your post that should also be duly ignored.

Enjoy!

under55
11-07-2023, 06:44 AM
Both of the outside bars at City Fire.

asianthree
11-07-2023, 07:07 AM
We both love the aroma of an expensive cigar, bring back memories with parental units. There’s are a few small groups that meet privately at Goldwing posted.

There is the ability to post a new club, and start with as many as you choose. Meeting at a private location. I will say not sure I would give up cooking well prepared meals to go back to a Cuban, but medically both are becoming off the list. Enjoy

TrapX
11-07-2023, 07:25 AM
Smoke at private residences.
It's not allowed at most villages locations, such as pools, rec centers (inside and outside seating areas), all restaurants, all outdoor sporting and rec facilities (courts, dog parks, exercise areas, fire pits, pavilions, etc), TV vehicles, inside all businesses except specific smoking only stores, patio areas that do not specifically have signage permitting it, all bars, designated hotel rooms, designated rental cars... and so on.
Just because you can light up does not make it ok.

Now the haters will kick in. Sorry, but those are the rules.

ThirdOfFive
11-07-2023, 08:01 AM
A good cigar, a glass of single malt, and good company are a hard to beat combination I must agree and a trio that I enjoyed for many a year.

Sadly, I know myself well enough and know that a good cigar has more than once foiled my efforts to stop smoking cigarettes so I have had to swear them off also, but I still love to aroma of a good cuban and still enjoy the occasional fellowship to solve the worlds problems.

There are a few groups of men and women here in TV that also enjoy a good smoke also, but it is a relatively small number and many meet at private residents and enjoy one of life's finer pleasantries on the privacy of their front porch or lanai. Go for an evening drive in the golf cart with your nose I bloodhound mode and within a few minutes you will sniff one of these groups out. Stop in and introduce yourself.

As far as a public venue, these are much rarer and unfortunately you will also have to deal with some of the self righteous moral police that walk the streets of our community wearing an overdose of their $3/gallon cheap perfume and complaining about the "smell" and spouting insults. (best solution I ever saw for this was on a cruise ship a few years ago in the smoking area, 2 women (won't use the word ladies, they weren't) came over and started lecturing a group of guys about their "disgusting habit", no strangers to the lectures, they all took a deep drawl and all at the same time engulfed the 2 in a huge cloud of fragrant aroma, the two left very quickly, and their problem solving continued unabated there after...). You can expect the same type of comments by the moral police here to your post that should also be duly ignored.

Enjoy!
"As far as a public venue, these are much rarer and unfortunately you will also have to deal with some of the self righteous moral police that walk the streets of our community wearing an overdose of their $3/gallon cheap perfume and complaining about the "smell" and spouting insults."

Certainly can happen. In public best to respect others: smoke away from crowds or if that is unavoidable, position yourself downwind.

It is fun to out the self-righteous, though. Back in the day ("the day" being the 1990s) I was a dedicated pipe smoker. An experiment I tried a couple of time was walking into a store with a brand-new pipe, not broken in or seasoned, in my mouth. A fellow female shopper spied near the end of her aisle and began fanning the air in front of her while coughing delicately. She got a rather angry look on her face as I strolled on by her while commenting "it's not lit".

flsteve
11-07-2023, 02:32 PM
Smoke at private residences.
It's not allowed at most villages locations, such as pools, rec centers (inside and outside seating areas), all restaurants, all outdoor sporting and rec facilities (courts, dog parks, exercise areas, fire pits, pavilions, etc), TV vehicles, inside all businesses except specific smoking only stores, patio areas that do not specifically have signage permitting it, all bars, designated hotel rooms, designated rental cars... and so on.
Just because you can light up does not make it ok.

Now the haters will kick in. Sorry, but those are the rules.

Are these rules listed somewhere? Are they particular to cigars only over cigarettes (much worse healthwise) or even pot? I smell pot in many places in The Villages. Kind of ironic to me that this is where we are as a nation. But I genuinely would like to know if there is a "blanket" rule/general rule for The Villages about smoking areas FOR CIGARS. Thanks.

dewilson58
11-07-2023, 02:55 PM
Some country clubs, like Evans, have smoking areas with bar service.

Town Squares.....not right on the dance floor.......but the sidewalks are available.

Some Squares have breeze-ways you can smoke and drink.

You can sit in your golf carts at Squares and smoke.

Golf courses.

City Fire.

To name a few.

coralway
11-07-2023, 03:12 PM
Norton - Ralph, do you mind if I smoke?
Ralph - I don’t care if you burn.

ROCKETMAN
11-08-2023, 05:46 AM
I frequently go down by sumter landing by the radio station. Great place for people watching. Also chairs along the boardwalk overlooking the water.

PGApromike
11-08-2023, 06:22 AM
On Thursday nights 7pm I'm told some of us Cigar people meet at Riverbend Rec Center. I'm planning on joining them this week. Have not been yet but my neighbor has.

dewilson58
11-08-2023, 06:37 AM
On Thursday nights 7pm I'm told some of us Cigar people meet at Riverbend Rec Center. I'm planning on joining them this week. Have not been yet but my neighbor has.

Report back what it's all about.
:beer3:

jump4
11-08-2023, 07:19 AM
FYI --

Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.

Regularly smoking cigars is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx (voice box), and oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat).

Cigar smoking is linked to gum disease and tooth loss.

Heavy cigar smoking and inhaling cigar smoke deeply may increase risk for developing coronary heart disease.

Heavy cigar smoking increases the risk for lung diseases, such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Source: Cigars | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/cigars/index.htm)

So I have recently taken up cigar smoking as a hobby and absolutely love it! My old habits as a "Foodie" and cook have faded away with my new diet, so cigars are my amazing new discovery. But, WHERE can I go to enjoy a cigar (hopefully amongst other afficianados) as far as businesses are concerned.
I love Garvino's and go there often. Arnold Palmer has a club that meets there outside. Are there any herfs in The Villages (Google it)? The cigar is truly a "mini vacation", and the fraternization among cigar smoking patrons is unmatched. I just would like to know of places where cigar smoking is welcomed and catered to so that I can go there. Thanks in advance for your help and recommendations my fellow Villagers!

NoMo50
11-08-2023, 07:38 AM
FYI --

Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.

Regularly smoking cigars is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx (voice box), and oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat).

Cigar smoking is linked to gum disease and tooth loss.

Heavy cigar smoking and inhaling cigar smoke deeply may increase risk for developing coronary heart disease.

Heavy cigar smoking increases the risk for lung diseases, such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Source: Cigars | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/cigars/index.htm)

The OP asked a legitimate question in his post about where he could enjoy a cigar without triggering the easily offended. Pretty sure he wasn't trolling for a health lecture.

Switter
11-08-2023, 07:57 AM
I thought I saw a place in Sumter Landing that was actually a dedicated cigar smoking place, indoors. I could be wrong but I swore that's what it was.

dewilson58
11-08-2023, 08:08 AM
I thought I saw a place in Sumter Landing that was actually a dedicated cigar smoking place, indoors. I could be wrong but I swore that's what it was.

Garvino's

Justputt
11-08-2023, 08:13 AM
The OP asked a legitimate question in his post about where he could enjoy a cigar without triggering the easily offended. Pretty sure he wasn't trolling for a health lecture.
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I have to agree. As someone that has been treating lung cancer, etc. for around 40 years, I consider smoking as a form of business development.

ThirdOfFive
11-08-2023, 08:15 AM
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I have to agree. As someone that has been treating lung cancer, etc. for around 40 years, I consider smoking as a form of business development.
Heh. Sorta like skydiving. Perfectly safe, until...

flsteve
11-08-2023, 08:41 AM
FYI --

Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.

Regularly smoking cigars is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx (voice box), and oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat).

Cigar smoking is linked to gum disease and tooth loss.

Heavy cigar smoking and inhaling cigar smoke deeply may increase risk for developing coronary heart disease.

Heavy cigar smoking increases the risk for lung diseases, such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Source: Cigars | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/cigars/index.htm)


Sweeping generalization, sorry to say. Just want to balance out your comment. No virulence intended here, by the way.

First, cigars are not normally inhaled, so there is a very low chance of LUNG cancer. If you don't smoke cigars, which I admit that I am making the assumption here that you don't, you would not understand by experience how filtration systems indoors (which I have installed on my patio and are controlled by bluetooth through my phone) work to keep air circulation prominent. When outdoors, there is little "2nd hand smoke" inhaled by others. That term became popular back in the day when people would smoke cigarettes inside a car with the windows rolled up and the family inside. Not just "smelling" smoke and then immediately falling into a death spiral from the mere detection.

Second, if CANCER is the actual thing that you are afraid of with cigars, please put it in order of things to fear. Perhaps deleting all sugar and sugar substitutes, bread, buns, white flour, grains, fruits, unfermented dairy products, vegetables, and all oils (except for olive oil) from your diet like I HAVE done for nearly a year so far. I USED to have diabetes, and now do not. I eat 1 to 2 rib eye steaks coated in butter and salt and pepper every day, except for days when I may not eat at all. I eat when I am hungry, which is not that often anymore since giving up the sugar and carbohydrates that my body makes from saturated fat via 6-8-10 carbon chain (medium chain) triglycerides.

Cancer and Sugar: Is There a Link? (https://www.webmd.com/cancer/features/cancer-sugar-link/)

Having cut all that out from my extremely successful carnivore diet, I now find myself at a loss from my previous love of cooking and eating extravagant foods. My weight has unintentionally dropped from previous 165 pounds down to 153 pounds now (5'9" height). Cigars provide an incredible "mini-vacation" previously unknown to me, and the mental benefit is hard to beat, in MY opinion. We all enjoy different things in life. This new hobby is not as dangerous as many people may think. Please offer cigar smokers the benefit of your doubt, especially in NOT COMPARING them to cigarette smokers, which are very very different.



Again, no hard feelings intended here! :smiley: I am not that kind of person.

badgerjeff
11-08-2023, 09:39 AM
Try Lowball Louie’s on 27/441 in Lady Lake. Not golf cart accessible but worth the short drive. They even have a very large covered outdoor patio where smokers and non smokers can peacefully coexist.

Maker
11-08-2023, 12:58 PM
Sweeping generalization, ... Again, no hard feelings intended here! :smiley: I am not that kind of person.

What you do to make yourself happy is great. Have at it. It's your body, your choice.

I have had family die from lung cancer. I do not want to be exposed to tobacco smoke at any level while in public. Just as it's my body, my choice. I do not want to walk through or be around, smoke. A smoker's desire to light up in a shared area does not get precedence.

Lea N
11-08-2023, 01:40 PM
We both love the aroma of an expensive cigar, bring back memories with parental units. There’s are a few small groups that meet privately at Goldwing posted.

There is the ability to post a new club, and start with as many as you choose. Meeting at a private location. I will say not sure I would give up cooking well prepared meals to go back to a Cuban, but medically both are becoming off the list. Enjoy

Whenever I smell a cigar it reminds me of my grandfather. He was such a kind person and loved by everyone. I can't say I particularly like or dislike the smell of a cigar but love the memories it brings back.

flsteve
11-08-2023, 02:12 PM
What you do to make yourself happy is great. Have at it. It's your body, your choice.

I have had family die from lung cancer. I do not want to be exposed to tobacco smoke at any level while in public. Just as it's my body, my choice. I do not want to walk through or be around, smoke. A smoker's desire to light up in a shared area does not get precedence.

Again, just bringing things hopefully back to center here without any hard feelings. I believe that your argument could go on endlessly with constant updates.

How do you feel about vehicle exhaust? Would you ask for people to not drive near you or your house due to proven carcinogens in vehicle exhaust? Let's do us ALL a favor and specifically leave COVID out of this, but what about colds and flu? Should it be mandatory for anyone with any sickness to not be allowed in public? How about noise?

The point of my rhetoric here is that we didn't use to be so petty about things in our history. We used to ACCEPT others and their behavior until such time when it was a REAL threat instead of a minor inconvenience. What has happened to America and THE PEOPLE IN IT (rhetorically speaking here)? Maybe Rodney King was right. "Can't we all just get along?" I hope I don't get attacked in my golf cart some day for having a cigar.

Florida's Friendliest Home Town!

Hank’s mom
11-08-2023, 02:21 PM
My lanai!

Driller703
11-08-2023, 07:58 PM
Garvino's
Garvino’s has a dedicated cigar lounge, but I’m pretty sure you have to buy a cigar from their substantial humidor to use it. I may be wrong. There are also a couple of chairs in front of the store. Lots of cigar supplies for sale as well.

bobmarc
11-08-2023, 08:20 PM
Lowball Louies....business off 441 down near Oakwood. Has a lounge and drinks. Google it for info.

bobmarc
11-08-2023, 08:24 PM
My lanai!
Great...we will all be over. What's the best time for the group to meet there?:welcome:

billethkid
11-09-2023, 08:17 AM
Garvino’s has a dedicated cigar lounge, but I’m pretty sure you have to buy a cigar from their substantial humidor to use it. I may be wrong. There are also a couple of chairs in front of the store. Lots of cigar supplies for sale as well.

YES!

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Maker
11-09-2023, 11:10 AM
The point of my rhetoric here is that we didn't use to be so petty about things in our history.

Nailed it about how people behaved in the past. They did not know cancer (and many other oral diseases) are caused by smoking. They were clueless to the dangers. They falsely thought not inhaling was "safe". Big tobacco paid fortunes to the movie and TV industry to glamorize it. Hooked millions of people. Killed a lot of people too.

Now that we know better, many people choose to avoid exposure whenever they can.

In the past, people had a lot more respect than today. Far too many smokers think they can smoke anywhere, and have zero respect for others. Comments like "blew it in their face" and "it's just a minor inconvenience" are examples of that entitled attitude.

So where to smoke your cigars? Anywhere away from other people who do not want exposure to your smoke.

JMintzer
11-09-2023, 08:01 PM
FYI --

Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.

Regularly smoking cigars is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx (voice box), and oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat).

Cigar smoking is linked to gum disease and tooth loss.

Heavy cigar smoking and inhaling cigar smoke deeply may increase risk for developing coronary heart disease.

Heavy cigar smoking increases the risk for lung diseases, such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Source: Cigars | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/cigars/index.htm)

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JMintzer
11-09-2023, 08:04 PM
Garvino’s has a dedicated cigar lounge, but I’m pretty sure you have to buy a cigar from their substantial humidor to use it. I may be wrong. There are also a couple of chairs in front of the store. Lots of cigar supplies for sale as well.

Correct on all counts...

fdpaq0580
11-09-2023, 08:53 PM
Whenever I smell a cigar it reminds me of my grandfather. He was such a kind person and loved by everyone. I can't say I particularly like or dislike the smell of a cigar but love the memories it brings back.

Ever been to the seashore where seaweed has washed ashore and is baking and rotting in the sun? That stench evokes in me fond memories of my childhood the same way as the stench of cigar smoke reminds you of your grandfather. Seaweed or cigar smoke, they both stink, but one evokes fond memories. Same with diesel exaust.

fdpaq0580
11-09-2023, 09:04 PM
Nailed it about how people behaved in the past. They did not know cancer (and many other oral diseases) are caused by smoking. They were clueless to the dangers. They falsely thought not inhaling was "safe". Big tobacco paid fortunes to the movie and TV industry to glamorize it. Hooked millions of people. Killed a lot of people too.

Now that we know better, many people choose to avoid exposure whenever they can.

In the past, people had a lot more respect than today. Far too many smokers think they can smoke anywhere, and have zero respect for others. Comments like "blew it in their face" and "it's just a minor inconvenience" are examples of that entitled attitude.

So where to smoke your cigars? Anywhere away from other people who do not want exposure to your smoke.

Agree.

ScottGo
11-10-2023, 01:25 PM
Ever been to the seashore where seaweed has washed ashore and is baking and rotting in the sun? That stench evokes in me fond memories of my childhood the same way as the stench of cigar smoke reminds you of your grandfather. Seaweed or cigar smoke, they both stink, but one evokes fond memories. Same with diesel exaust.

Or tires and fuel smells at a car race.

JMintzer
11-10-2023, 02:40 PM
Ever been to the seashore where seaweed has washed ashore and is baking and rotting in the sun? That stench evokes in me fond memories of my childhood the same way as the stench of cigar smoke reminds you of your grandfather. Seaweed or cigar smoke, they both stink, but one evokes fond memories. Same with diesel exaust.

Or tires and fuel smells at a car race.

Can't people just answer a simple question and not crap on other people's threads?

fdpaq0580
11-10-2023, 04:43 PM
Can't people just answer a simple question and not crap on other people's threads?

Where's the fun in that?

JMintzer
11-10-2023, 07:48 PM
Where's the fun in that?

Noted for future reference...

ThirdOfFive
11-11-2023, 07:54 AM
Garvino's
LOVE Garvino's! I don't smoke but I don't mind if others do, and I actually enjoy the smell of cigar smoke.

However cigars is not the reason I go there: they have a really good wine selection. We particularly enjoy Zinfandel. We've found very little of here in TV: forget the grocery store liquor sales and, though better, Total Wine does not have a particularly broad selection of Zin. Garvino's does though. They also have that cigar store Indian by the front door. My bet is that you see very few of those any more.

And don't forget the testosterone rush. Wine, cigars, AND attractive younger women to help you make your selections.

Byte1
11-11-2023, 09:04 AM
FYI --

Cigars contain the same toxic and carcinogenic compounds found in cigarettes and are not a safe alternative to cigarettes.

Regularly smoking cigars is associated with an increased risk for cancers of the lung, esophagus, larynx (voice box), and oral cavity (lip, tongue, mouth, throat).

Cigar smoking is linked to gum disease and tooth loss.

Heavy cigar smoking and inhaling cigar smoke deeply may increase risk for developing coronary heart disease.

Heavy cigar smoking increases the risk for lung diseases, such as emphysema and chronic bronchitis.

Source: Cigars | Smoking & Tobacco Use | CDC (https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/tobacco_industry/cigars/index.htm)

Did the OP ask if smoking was healthy? I've never heard or read anywhere that suggested that it was healthy.

Byte1
11-11-2023, 09:12 AM
What you do to make yourself happy is great. Have at it. It's your body, your choice.

I have had family die from lung cancer. I do not want to be exposed to tobacco smoke at any level while in public. Just as it's my body, my choice. I do not want to walk through or be around, smoke. A smoker's desire to light up in a shared area does not get precedence.

Actually, it does if it is legal. It is also your choice to NOT frequent those areas. I don't smoke, but smoke doesn't bother me to the extent that I feel the need to b***ch about it. :wine: