Golf attire

[Panhandler2]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

[BrianL99]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Golf The Villages (https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/howToDress.asp)

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/golf-villages-216/dress-code-325286/

Should T-shirts be allowed on The Villages’ golf courses? (https://www.tampabay.com/sports/outdoors/2023/03/01/the-villages-golf-t-shirts-attire-clothing-wear-whats-appropriate-retirement-community/)

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/golf-villages-216/proper-golf-attire-question-336441/

All you ever wanted to know about how to dress for golf in TV

[Bogie Shooter]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Dress code from Golf the Villages. Not from TOTV opinions.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GolfingInTheVillages.pdf

[tophcfa]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Yes, it’s allowed in the dress code. You can’t wear a t shirt, but a shirt without a collar is allowed as long as it has a buttoned opening. There is actually a picture of one being shown as acceptable attire posted at many of the courses, both Championship and Executive.

[BrianL99]

Dress code from Golf th Villages. Not from TOTV opinions.

https://www.golfthevillages.com/golf-in-the-villages/GolfingInTheVillages.pdf


According to that, Henley's are not specifically allowed. "Blade" collars are allowed. At least as I understand them, not all "Henleys" have a Blade collar.

Which is why I posted the links, rather than refer to the myriad of Dress Code publications through the years ... all of which seem to get confusing, once you get beyond the Golf Dress Code of 1970 (other than the "no jeans" thing).

You can have dinner in the Country Club Restaurants wearing your jammies, but you better be dressed right, when you get on the golf course ... & jeans are OK. ������

[Velvet]

So you are saying henleys are ok as long as they have a blade collar more than 1 1/4 inches? (Actually asking for a friend.)

[tophcfa]

Below is a picture taken at a Village’s Championship Pro Shop showing allowable golfing attire. See the picture of the blue shirt on the top right.

[DonH57]

I've worn several buttoned Henleys and never had an issue.

[billethkid]

rules for what to wear on the golf course are in the same book as raking sand traps, sanding divots and fixing ball marks on the greens......right next to the rules regarding stop signs and speed limits!:1rotfl:

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[MrChip72]

So you are saying henleys are ok as long as they have a blade collar more than 1 1/4 inches? (Actually asking for a friend.)

Is the starter going to pull out a measuring tape? :police:

[DonH57]

Is the starter going to pull out a measuring tape? :police:

Don't think so. On cold morning swearing a pullover hoodie or quarter zip jacket they never check for a polo.

[Robbb]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Better adhere to their code, the Villages promote compliance not individualism. One negative about living here, these people LOVE their rules.

[ThirdOfFive]

Annual discussion, right on schedule.

[Mortal1]

Yes, it’s allowed in the dress code. You can’t wear a t shirt, but a shirt without a collar is allowed as long as it has a buttoned opening. There is actually a picture of one being shown as acceptable attire posted at many of the courses, both Championship and Executive.

there are some posters at some of the starters shacks that state 1/4" minimum collar and others that state 1 1/4" inch. The latter is correct as per the golf the villages website and the person in charge of such things(as I emailed them).

Most courses won't say anything with a henley(a type of Tee shirt with a few buttons)being worn. Nevertheless don't be surprise when you are required to wear either a "mock turtleneck" or a regular polo shirt.

The person who posted this is ill informed.

[tophcfa]

there are some posters at some of the starters shacks that state 1/4" minimum collar and others that state 1 1/4" inch. The latter is correct as per the golf the villages website and the person in charge of such things(as I emailed them).

Most courses won't say anything with a henley(a type of Tee shirt with a few buttons)being worn. Nevertheless don't be surprise when you are required to wear either a "mock turtleneck" or a regular polo shirt.

The person who posted this is ill informed.

Not true, take a look at the picture in post #7.

[kkingston57]

Annual discussion, right on schedule.

But no comments on wearing jeans. TV makes a big deal on shirts but person can wear jeans. Go figure.

[kkingston57]

there are some posters at some of the starters shacks that state 1/4" minimum collar and others that state 1 1/4" inch. The latter is correct as per the golf the villages website and the person in charge of such things(as I emailed them).

Most courses won't say anything with a henley(a type of Tee shirt with a few buttons)being worn. Nevertheless don't be surprise when you are required to wear either a "mock turtleneck" or a regular polo shirt.

The person who posted this is ill informed.

Thanks for the definition of a henley. Saved me some keystrokes.

[UpNorth]

But no comments on wearing jeans. TV makes a big deal on shirts but person can wear jeans. Go figure.

Agreed. Nothing cheapens golf attire more than a pair of jeans. Looks like a bunch of farmers out there.

[Normal]

Below is a picture taken at a Village’s Championship Pro Shop showing allowable golfing attire. See the picture of the blue shirt on the top right.

The collar on that Henley is no greater than 3/4 of an inch. I would guess anything that buttons would be the rule of thumb. For sure the shirt is of quality and likely costs more than some raggedy Polos I’ve seen throughout the years.

[RICH1]

This is what happens when the young move in !

[JMintzer]

But no comments on wearing jeans. TV makes a big deal on shirts but person can wear jeans. Go figure.

Be happy they remembered to put on pants!

[Pairadocs]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Whatever you read in the rules, or hear from others, just keep in the back of your mind that there is no uniformity from golf course to golf course... it's just become so large here now that the training of employees is not at all uniform, and you might be told at one place something is "okay" and not at others. Have to just let it roll off and not get frustrated. Yesterday told 3 different stories about who actually had a right to a room in a rec center by 3 employees in the same center... can't let it effect your day or happiness.

[Robbb]

Agreed. Nothing cheapens golf attire more than a pair of jeans. Looks like a bunch of farmers out there.

I will never understand how some people actually notice and care about what others wear. Life is just to short for this level of irrelevance.

[dhdallas]

Can men wear a “henley” when golfing?

Any clothing that makes you look like a dork is allowed Hip, cool and trendy are not.
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/golfing-in-tv/10323-law-order-golf-golfers-fashion-clothes-golf-clothing-dre1780-low.jpg

[MrChip72]

I will never understand how some people actually notice and care about what others wear. Life is just to short for this level of irrelevance.

It's not like you're going to a wedding. I don't care at all what people wear.

[Velvet]

It's not like you're going to a wedding. I don't care at all what people wear.

Wrong. It’s respect for the sport and the people you play with. If you want to wear a bathing suit, for example, don’t come to the golf course.

[tophcfa]

How is wearing a t-shirt and shorts disrespecting the game? How is it more "respectful" to wear a collar shirt.

That’s a reasonable question in my opinion. I love and respect the game of golf, but never got the whole dress code thing. To me, respecting the game of golf is about respecting both the golf course and fellow golfers. Things that are important include fixing ball marks, filling in divots, raking bunkers, keeping quiet and still when others are hitting, helping other golfers track and find their ball, not walking in putting lines, pulling and replacing the flag, picking up other golfers wedges when walking off the greens, and keeping up a reasonable pace of play. I would much prefer to play with a golfer wearing jeans and a t shirt who does the above, than a lazy disrespectful slob dressed in pressed slacks wearing an overpriced tucked in collared shirt. But hey, maybe that’s just me?

[MrChip72]

That’s a reasonable question in my opinion. I love and respect the game of golf, but never got the whole dress code thing. To me, respecting the game of golf is about respecting both the golf course and fellow golfers. Things that are important include fixing ball marks, filling in divots, raking bunkers, keeping quiet and still when others are hitting, helping other golfers track and find their ball, not walking in putting lines, pulling and replacing the flag, picking up other golfers wedges when walking off the greens, and keeping up a reasonable pace of play. I would much prefer to play with a golfer wearing jeans and a t shirt who does the above, than a lazy disrespectful slob dressed in pressed slacks wearing an overpriced tucked in collared shirt. But hey, maybe that’s just me?

Spot on!

[Garywt]

Glad I read through a few of these so I could find out what a henley is.

[Number 10 GI]

Awful lot of drama over a game that is supposed to be played for relaxation and enjoyment.

[BrianL99]

Wrong. It’s respect for the sport and the people you play with. If you want to wear a bathing suit, for example, don’t come to the golf course.

WRONG.

"Spiffy golf attire" is a throwback to the 1950's, when Americans that played golf, wanted to show the world that they were "special & cool".

75 years later, the "specified" outfits, are neither spiffy nor cool and playing golf doesn't make you special. If you complain about what someone else is wearing at a PUBLIC golf course, you're the problem and you're definitely UNCOOL.

[Velvet]

Well, golf is from Scotland several hundreds years before it was imported to this continent. And right from the beginning:
“Early Scottish golfers wore formal apparel like jackets, waistcoats, and breeches before golf-specific attire became popular.” Google.

Now if the North Americans interpreted it as “spiffy” that was their problem. There is a tradition associated with this game. I understand people wanting to change the tradition, but why not just invent your own sport if you don’t like the traditions associated with golf? Not everyone wants to go to the lowest common denominator, and calling it “cool” doesn’t make it so.

[BrianL99]

Well, golf is from Scotland several hundreds years before it was imported to this continent. And right from the beginning:
“Early Scottish golfers wore formal apparel like jackets, waistcoats, and breeches before golf-specific attire became popular.” Google.

Now if the North Americans interpreted it as “spiffy” that was their problem. There is a tradition associated with this game. I understand people wanting to change the tradition, but why not just invent your own sport if you don’t like the traditions associated with golf? Not everyone wants to go to the lowest common denominator, and calling it “cool” doesn’t make it so.


Ohhh ... I see. You want to maintain the "TRADITIONAL fashion" of golf?

Exactly which tradition is appropriate in your mind?

Let's see a photo of you at the golf course. I'm sure you're not wearing polyester and I'm positive your golf shoes are wingtips. I mean, you're a person of tradition, right?

Are you beginning to see the absurdity of your contention?

[Velvet]

I am seeing a desperate attempt to justify a position. I prefer not to put people in that position. So the best of luck to you, sincerely.

[BrianL99]

I am seeing a desperate attempt to justify a position. I prefer not to put people in that position. So the best of luck to you, sincerely.



“Early Scottish golfers wore formal apparel like jackets, waistcoats, and breeches before golf-specific attire became popular.” Google.

There is a tradition associated with this game
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OK, fine. What's the "tradition"? I'm waiting to hear it? Jackets & waistcoats? What exactly is "golf-specific attire"? Sansabelt pants and white belts?

I'd like to know. What's golf's traditional dress?

Is it ok to dress like PGA Tour Pros? Do they respect the game and its traditions?

Which "traditional" outfit do you like?

[Normal]

OK, fine. What's the "tradition"? I'm waiting to hear it? Jackets & waistcoats? What exactly is "golf-specific attire"? Sansabelt pants and white belts?

I'd like to know. What's golf's traditional dress?

Is it ok to dress like PGA Tour Pros? Do they respect the game and its traditions?

Which "traditional" outfit do you like?

One poster wants to go with the wool Scottish kilts? Or original dress (literally)?
I’m opposed because we are in a different climate. Kind of like going to Africa where some are half naked.

[tophcfa]

Although I prefer to dress more casual, my golfing buddies still cling to the old school tradition. Plus, they are a hoot to play with : )

[BrianL99]

To saying nothing of the fact, that the Executive Golf Courses are PUBLIC courses, owned by the Public.

Next thing you know, someone will be mandating a Dress Code for the Dog Parks, Recreation Centers and the public squares. What the hell, why not have a Dress Code for walking on the sidewalks in TV?

[rustyp]

To saying nothing of the fact, that the Executive Golf Courses are PUBLIC courses, owned by the Public.

Next thing you know, someone will be mandating a Dress Code for the Dog Parks, Recreation Centers and the public squares. What the hell, why not have a Dress Code for walking on the sidewalks in TV?

Not one golf course in TV is owned by the public. Championship owned by the developer. Executive owned by residents. Allowing PUBLIC play is not ownership. The public can play championship. The public can not play executive. Executive non resident players require a guest pass.

[Bogie Shooter]

Not one golf course in TV is owned by the public. Championship owned by the developer. Executive owned by residents. Allowing PUBLIC play is not ownership. The public can play championship. The public can not play executive. Executive non resident players require a guest pass.

:boom:
“What the hell”
Go rusty………

[BrianL99]

Not one golf course in TV is owned by the public. Championship owned by the developer. Executive owned by residents. Allowing PUBLIC play is not ownership. The public can play championship. The public can not play executive. Executive non resident players require a guest pass.

The Executive Golf Courses (other than the ones in the South that have not been turned over yet) are owned by CDD's, which are public entities. WE (the residents) are "the public". for purposes of the CDD.

If you follow this link, you'll better understand how it works.

VCDD Golf (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/golf/golf.aspx)

[rustyp]

The Executive Golf Courses (other than the ones in the South that have not been turned over yet) are owned by CDD's, which are public entities. WE (the residents) are "the public". for purposes of the CDD.

If you follow this link, you'll better understand how it works.

VCDD Golf (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/golf/golf.aspx)

Which part of TV's CDD's are public? Let's ask the mayor of Lady Lake or better yet Goldwingnut that question. Nice try. I did not find in your reference how a non resident i.e. the public plays an executive course in the south without a guest pass. Please post how. Many people in Wildwood would be interested. By your definition we the residents of TV are the "privileged public" within three counties. It would be beneficial if one took the residents academy course.

[BrianL99]

Executive owned by residents.


Which part of TV's CDD's are public?

By your definition we the residents of TV are the "privileged public" within three counties.
It would be beneficial if one took the residents academy course.

The Executive courses are owned by the CDD, not the residents. A CDD is not like a condominium, where people own an individual % of the whole. A CDD is a governmental unit in Florida. They hold their own elections, are required to adhere to FL Sunshine Laws and hold Public Hearings.

Home owners in TV are indeed, the "privileged public". The CDD's own the Exec Golf Courses and make the rules. If they wanted to, they could probably make a rule that the "non-privileged public" could play the Executive Courses ... other CDD Communities have done it.

A Primer on CDD's can be found here: Community Development Districts – What you should know! | CFM Community Development District (https://www.cfmcdd.org/questions/)

You're getting a little off the subject. The fact that there's a "dress code" for Executive Golf courses, is ludicrous in my opinion. That's like the City of Wildwood, telling folks they can't use the Library or Town Hall, unless they wear a tie.

Then again, I don't really care what anyone wears to play golf, especially on the Executive Courses. I don't play them. They're not real golf courses. It's like comparing Co-Ed Intramural Flag Football, with the Varsity Football Team. There are some similarities, but it's a different game.

[ThirdOfFive]

Glad I read through a few of these so I could find out what a henley is.
Yeah. Like a henway.

[Papa_lecki]

The Executive Golf Courses (other than the ones in the South that have not been turned over yet) are owned by CDD's, which are public entities. WE (the residents) are "the public". for purposes of the CDD.

If you follow this link, you'll better understand how it works.

VCDD Golf (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/golf/golf.aspx)

A Public vs Private Course is an indication of WHO CAN PLAY, not ownership.

Anyone can play a public course - let’s see what happens when Bob from Ocala tries to play Red Fox Tuesday morning.

While Bob from Ocala can play a championship, he can’t make a tee time on them - so he would be a walk up.

“Private courses” could be owned by a corporation or the members.

[BrianL99]

Anyone can play a public course - let’s see what happens when Bob from Ocala tries to play Red Fox Tuesday morning.

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He's going to get turned away, as he's not a member of the "public" within the CDD's. No different than a community that has a "resident's only dog park" or "resident only parking".

If you want to call Executive Courses, "semi-public", that's fine.

It doesn't change the fact that they are publicly owned. Governmental boards, commissions or agencies, shouldn't be telling folks how to dress. This is the 21st Century and that's just ludicrous on its face.

[rustyp]

He's going to get turned away, as he's not a member of the "public" within the CDD's. No different than a community that has a "resident's only dog park" or "resident only parking".

If you want to call Executive Courses, "semi-public", that's fine.

It doesn't change the fact that they are publicly owned. Governmental boards, commissions or agencies, shouldn't be telling folks how to dress. This is the 21st Century and that's just ludicrous on its face.

Your definition of public and mine are miles apart. Your definition has the public down to 140000 vs millions who pay taxes in this state.

Second - Government agencies shouldn't be telling people how to dress. Beth Page a New York State park open to millions has a dress code. I know Bob from Ocala won't be able to make a tee time on "our" executive courses tomorrow. Let's watch you play Beth Page in genes and a tee shirt .

[BrianL99]

Your definition of public and mine are miles apart.

Second - Government agencies shouldn't be telling people how to dress. Beth Page a New York State park open to millions has a dress code ...

Let's watch you play Beth Page in genes and a tee shirt .

I doubt Beth Page would have any objections to my genes.

They'd probably have an objection to a T-Shirt and it's equally ludicrous in their case, although I'm not sure Beth Page & Executive Courses in TV are a fair comparison. I suspect very few of the regulars at Beth Page, play by The Villages Friendly Rules of Golf.

[rustyp]

Your definition of public and mine are miles apart. Your definition has the public down to 140000 vs millions who pay taxes in this state.

Second - Government agencies shouldn't be telling people how to dress. Beth Page a New York State park open to millions has a dress code. I know Bob from Ocala won't be able to make a tee time on "our" executive courses tomorrow. Let's watch you play Beth Page in genes and a tee shirt .

I doubt Beth Page would have any objections to my genes.

They'd probably have an objection to a T-Shirt and it's equally ludicrous in their case, although I'm not sure Beth Page & Executive Courses in TV are a fair comparison. I suspect very few of the regulars at Beth Page, play by The Villages Friendly Rules of Golf.

Good catch - spell checker got me

[Papa_lecki]

Your definition of public and mine are miles apart. Your definition has the public down to 140000 vs millions who pay taxes in this state.

Second - Government agencies shouldn't be telling people how to dress. Beth Page a New York State park open to millions has a dress code. I know Bob from Ocala won't be able to make a tee time on "our" executive courses tomorrow. Let's watch you play Beth Page in genes and a tee shirt .

The government isn’t telling people what to wear. The golf associations set dress code - in our case, the Florida Golf Association

https://www.fsga.org/files/cm/PDF%20Forms/2023%20Code%20of%20Conduct.pdf

DRESS CODE – PLAYER & CADDIES:
 Club Dress Code Policy – If more formal, supersedes the FSGA dress code
 Generally Accepted Golf Attire - Should be worn at all times by players,
caddies and family
 Shirts – Must have collars or be specifically designed for golf and acceptable
at the host facility
 Men’s Shirts – Must be tucked in at all times
 Hats – Must be worn forward and should be removed in dining areas
 Women's Shorts, Skirts, Skorts – Generally, should reach mid-thigh in
length (half way between hip and knee)
 Footwear – Athletic shoes, golf shoes or dress shoes should be worn
o Flip flops are discouraged

[BrianL99]

Good catch - spell checker got me

I suspected it was "voice to text" ?

[BrianL99]

The government isn’t telling people what to wear. The golf associations set dress code - in our case, the Florida Golf Association

https://www.fsga.org/files/cm/PDF%20Forms/2023%20Code%20of%20Conduct.pdf

DRESS CODE – PLAYER & CADDIES:
 Club Dress Code Policy – If more formal, supersedes the FSGA dress code
 Generally Accepted Golf Attire - Should be worn at all times by players,
caddies and family
 Shirts – Must have collars or be specifically designed for golf and acceptable
at the host facility
 Men’s Shirts – Must be tucked in at all times
 Hats – Must be worn forward and should be removed in dining areas
 Women's Shorts, Skirts, Skorts – Generally, should reach mid-thigh in
length (half way between hip and knee)
 Footwear – Athletic shoes, golf shoes or dress shoes should be worn
o Flip flops are discouraged

That's the Dress Code for playing in FSGA Events/Tournaments.

Not many of those going on at Executive Golf Courses in TV.

Everyone seems to fall back on the "traditions" of golf attire as the justification, yet they conveniently forget to acknowledge, there's hardly a golf club in the USA or Europe, that allows "jeans" on a golf course.

I understand why it's the case in TV and I have no problem with people wearing jeans to play golf. That said, making the "traditional" argument as the basis for a dress code in TV, while jeans are allowed, is disingenuous and ridiculous on its face.