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bsloan1960
11-27-2023, 03:23 PM
Don't want to call an electrician if someone smart here can tell me if this is a non-problem.
We have a stereo receiver. Our TV, home theater, etc. is connected to it. We leave it on all the time. Our ceiling fan is in the same room. When we turn OFF the ceiling fan the home theater speakers make a single, dull POP sound.
Does this indicate something is not wired properly- or has somehow become problematic? We had this same arrangement up North and there was no Pop.
Thanks!
retiredguy123
11-27-2023, 03:34 PM
Just a thought. Are the speakers wireless? Does the ceiling fan operate on a remote? If either is the case, you probably need to change the code on the ceiling fan and it's remote to a different frequency. This requires removing the ceiling fan escutcheon and resetting the pins.
bsloan1960
11-27-2023, 03:43 PM
Just a thought. Are the speakers wireless? Does the ceiling fan operate on a remote? If either is the case, you probably need to change the code on the ceiling fan and it's remote to a different frequency. This requires removing the ceiling fan escutcheon and resetting the pins. Speakers are not wireless, and the fan is connected to a wall switch.
Altavia
11-27-2023, 03:52 PM
Don't want to call an electrician if someone smart here can tell me if this is a non-problem.
We have a stereo receiver. Our TV, home theater, etc. is connected to it. We leave it on all the time. Our ceiling fan is in the same room. When we turn OFF the ceiling fan the home theater speakers make a single, dull POP sound.
Does this indicate something is not wired properly- or has somehow become problematic? We had this same arrangement up North and there was no Pop.
Thanks!
That's possible with some fan/controllers where they don't suppress emi from the fan motor, no worries.
What input is the receiver switched to?
Are the cables shielded?
Make sure the cables on the receiver are firmly attached.
retiredguy123
11-27-2023, 03:56 PM
I don't know what the problem is. Does the problem still occur if you use the chain to turn off the ceiling fan? If not, I would suggest getting a remote for the ceiling fan. It may solve the problem because you can leave the wall switch on all the time, and it will make the ceiling fan more convenient. Very inexpensive and easy to install. You may also try plugging the receiver into a different outlet, if possible. I assume the speakers are plugged into the receiver. Good luck.
bsloan1960
11-27-2023, 04:01 PM
I don't know what the problem is. Does the problem still occur if you use the chain to turn off the ceiling fan? If not, I would suggest getting a remote for the ceiling fan. It may solve the problem because you can leave the wall switch on all the time, and it will make the ceiling fan more convenient. Very inexpensive and easy to install. You may also try plugging the receiver into a different outlet, if possible. I assume the speakers are plugged into the receiver. Good luck. I don't want to find ways for it to go away- I want to find out if it indicates a safety problem.
bsloan1960
11-27-2023, 04:04 PM
That's possible with some fan/controllers where they don't suppress emi from the fan motor, no worries.
What input is the receiver switched to?
Are the cables shielded?
Make sure the cables on the receiver are firmly attached. The input is set to DOCK when the TV is not in use. Our Alexa is connected to the receiver's DOCK setting. We use the Alexa to play music. Believe or not the music going through our receiver sounds like a concert hall. I don't know what shielded cable are. We are using RCA cables, HDMI cable, and regular speaker wire.
retiredguy123
11-27-2023, 04:07 PM
I don't want to find ways for it to go away- I want to find out if it indicates a safety problem.
I don't think it is a safety problem. My guess is that the speakers are reacting to the ceiling fan. But, if the house is under warranty, I would have an electrician check it out.
villagetinker
11-27-2023, 04:09 PM
IMHO, this is not a safety problem, your surround sound system appears to be picking up the electrical noise when the fan is switched off. Your could try a high quality noise suppressor on the feed to the sound system. You can double check all of your cables to and from the sound system and make sure all of the connections are tight. It MAY be possible to replace the fan switch with one that has suppression built in, however I would need to research this.
Altavia
11-27-2023, 05:15 PM
I don't want to find ways for it to go away- I want to find out if it indicates a safety problem.
One more vote for not a safety problem.
FYI - Your home has Arc Fault Breakers designed to detect a wide range of arcing electrical faults to help reduce the electrical system from being an ignition source of a fire.
https://www.afcisafety.org/afci/what-is-afci/#1466501155283-c10527c7-13fd
Miboater
11-27-2023, 07:05 PM
Not a safety problem as the popping noise usually indicates a small voltage spike in that circuit. I'm assuming the receiver and fan are on the same circuit. It can mean the capacitors in your receiver are getting a little weak as over time they dry out and do not regulate voltage as well as before. You can buy a voltage conditioner that you can plug the receiver into and that should stop the voltage spike.
villagetinker
11-27-2023, 09:12 PM
Don't want to call an electrician if someone smart here can tell me if this is a non-problem.
We have a stereo receiver. Our TV, home theater, etc. is connected to it. We leave it on all the time. Our ceiling fan is in the same room. When we turn OFF the ceiling fan the home theater speakers make a single, dull POP sound.
Does this indicate something is not wired properly- or has somehow become problematic? We had this same arrangement up North and there was no Pop.
Thanks!
I was thinking about this some more, and ours turns on and off automatically with the TV. This is done with the HDMI-ARC function on each piece of equipment, so it is not on all the time.
bsloan1960
11-27-2023, 10:54 PM
I was thinking about this some more, and ours turns on and off automatically with the TV. This is done with the HDMI-ARC function on each piece of equipment, so it is not on all the time.We intentionally leave it on all the time in the Dock mode. Our Alexa is piped through it so we can simply ask for a song and hear it play through the receiver without having to turn it on. After reading the answers here to my question I'm no longer concerned about it being a safety issue. Thank you for your input
McClendons
11-28-2023, 08:39 AM
Concur with highly likely NOT a safety issue. If you want to address the pop (if it annoys etc), two things to try:
1) a good surge suppressor on the stereo might help filter any direct power spikes.
2) Very possible the switch on the wall is "bad", not bad enough to not work, but bad enough to create RF interference. Changing out the wall switch might solve issue. NOTE, I would not call a safety issue unless the switch is not operating reliably in the on and/or off position.
brianherlihy
11-29-2023, 08:32 AM
work in the villages is not good. we are going to sell and get out and go home not a happy place
retiredguy123
11-29-2023, 08:40 AM
work in the villages is not good. we are going to sell and get out and go home not a happy place
I don't agree. My small Villages house is better constructed than my large house in Virginia was, and it cost 5 times as much.
bsloan1960
11-29-2023, 08:43 AM
work in the villages is not good. we are going to sell and get out and go home not a happy place A bit confused- Are you saying you didn't have home maintenance questions where you previously lived?
pikeselectric
11-29-2023, 10:02 AM
Hi there! Casandra with Pike's Electric here. Often times we hear of this situation when it comes to speakers/sound systems and ceiling fans with controls/wall switches/light kits. It could be a frequency from the switch/speaker that you are hearing the sound. Suggestion:
Does the light kit take light bulbs? If yes, change them to LED bulbs and make sure they are dimmable if your fan wall switch has a dimmer option.
If no light kit, you can try changing out the switch on the wall OR fan itself to see if it alleviates. We are happy to help you with any electrical needs you have!
Have a good day, - Casandra
Arctic Fox
11-29-2023, 10:05 AM
Believe or not the music going through our receiver sounds like a concert hall. I don't know what shielded cable are. We are using RCA cables, HDMI cable, and regular speaker wire.
Electricity and radio waves are strange beasts and any of the wiring in your home theater could be acting as an aerial. If you're now at peace with the popping, and your sound is good, I'd leave it be. Otherwise, you might try using shielded speaker cables. These come in all sorts of gauges and prices but even the cheaper cable can improve sound quality and may eliminate the pop.
Maker
11-29-2023, 10:36 AM
My guess is that it not a serious problem. But I would also do a few other tests to get a better picture about how the pop is happening. I'd try to identify the way the pop is happening. Is it thru the power lines? Is it EMI (radiated energy)? Is it backfeeding from one of the connected devices?
Can you unplug all the inputs to the stereo and see if it still happens. If not, you can find the input causing it to happen.
Might try a long extension cord on the stereo to power it from a different circuit. Or power the offending device with it.
I have a similar setup. All power goes through a sine wave UPS for voltage surge/spike/brownout protection. No issues at all like your pops. All means stereo, alexa, TV, networking, streaming devices, etc.
All my other electronic devices (not also on their own UPS) are connected through an "ISOTEL6ULTRA" type surge protector. These are metal cased, high quality devices that filter noise and voltage spikes.
These devices should protect from a direct power line lightning strike, and lousy power.
MorTech
11-29-2023, 06:20 PM
Not a safety issue. I am surprised the EMI spike from the motor makes it thru the receiver. Try a surge protector or UPS on the receiver.
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