Changing of the Guard

[RICH1]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

[ThirdOfFive]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.
Rules without enforcement are merely suggestions.

[asianthree]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

So your thoughts are residents are “Afraid”. Sometimes 50 complaints filed weekly, wouldn’t come close to say someone has that worry. Sometimes complaint’s are filed for something done more than 10 years ago in the north.

I agree TV was mostly multi or long term rentals, with the occasional visiting family needing a week because parents ran out of room.
It seems some homes are bought by agents for that one year turn over, using Abnb as a quick profit with zero worry about neighbors, then quick sale at one year mark. I swim laps and my I’d is checked every Sports pool.

To worry about so much on your list, running for a official position, might help you process things better.

[Chellybean]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

guess what is going to be the next generation of Morse's to run the villages, Yes the same that is moving in here as you stated!

[Toymeister]

Get off my lawn!

[fdpaq0580]

get off my lawn!

lol?

[Taltarzac725]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

[Two Bills]

Rules are for other people, not me! :angel:

[JGibson]

Right, it's only the younger folks who break the rules.

[GoRedSox!]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.I'm not sure why the things described here are considered "liberal?" If you override the golf car governor, that's a liberal thing? There are plenty of adjectives for the behaviors you describe, but I don't think they have anything to do with the age of the retirees or their politics.

[Papa_lecki]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

I am pretty much passed by every car when drive on Morse Blvd. I do the speed limit.

[Keefelane66]

We travel below 44 maybe twice weekly also noticed the Wildwood PD seems to be doing their job pulling over speeders. Not saying Sumter County Sheriff seem to be slacking in their responsibility.

[Laker14]

Damn kids!

[GoRedSox!]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.We just got a new Yamaha and it tops out at 20. Most of the time, it's at 19, even on flat ground. And yes, we get passed quite a bit. But I am not in a hurry to get anywhere when I'm in a golf car. If I have to get there fast, I will take my car.

[asianthree]

We travel below 44 maybe twice weekly also noticed the Wildwood PD seems to be doing their job pulling over speeders. Not saying Sumter County Sheriff seem to be slacking in their responsibility.

Bonus living south of 44 is Wildwood PD. It’s definitely a take charge department on speeding. Very happy to see that after living in LSL area.

Even traveling at wee hours, you will see a cruiser out and about. Great site to see police presence, @ BV crossing 44m at 3am. I wave every time.

[shut the front door]

I'm not sure why the things described here are considered "liberal?" If you override the golf car governor, that's a liberal thing? There are plenty of adjectives for the behaviors you describe, but I don't think they have anything to do with the age of the retirees or their politics.

You didn't finish the sentence. The OP said "more Liberal views on our established rules".
A liberal view of rules means they aren't taken seriously or obeyed. It has nothing to do with politics.

[GoRedSox!]

You didn't finish the sentence. The OP said "more Liberal views on our established rules".
A liberal view of rules means they aren't taken seriously or obeyed. It has nothing to do with politics.Maybe you are right. I don't know but we will see what the OP says if he chooses to respond. He did capitalize the L in liberal....the context was going "soft" and also alluded to the age of the newcomers....but I have been wrong many times before and will continue to be, I'm sure.

[Randall55]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.They do not understand the danger of driving carts at higher speeds. Could care less what renters are doing in their home. And, many see flipping their homes after one year is a sure fire way to make money. In the end, it will probably crash and burn. The real estate market is full of pitfalls. Will they care if it crashes? Probably not. Most live out of state.

I do not understand who is buying these over-priced one and two year old homes. A buyer can purchase a new home for 50 - 100 thousand less and gain equity instead of throwing that money away. To me, it doesn't make sense.

I think homes being built in the Eastport area will slow resales. A smart buyer will see purchasing a home in that area is a better investment. The new square is going to outdo Brownwood in so many ways- 3 Championship golf courses, an expansive lake, and indoor pickleball to name a few.

[Velvet]

How is the elevation in Eastport for flooding? And sinkholes? (Studies indicate somewhat of a correlation between elevation and sinkholes.) My number one concern was with these two things before I bought my home. I wanted my kitchen to be in the same place when I woke up as the night before.

[Randall55]

How is the elevation in Eastport for flooding? And sinkholes? (Studies indicate somewhat of a correlation between elevation and sinkholes.) My number one concern was with these two things before I bought my home. I wanted my kitchen to be in the same place when I woke up as the night before.Lightening strikes and sink holes happen FREQUENTLY THROUGHOUT the Villages. You would need a crystal ball to determine what area is going to remain safe. I was living here when the early morning tornado destroyed 1300 homes. No one saw that coming! The Villages IS NOT the safe haven that some people believe. 18 yrs living here, I have learned to expect disasters.

[JMintzer]

They do not understand the danger of driving carts at higher speeds. Could care less what renters are doing in their home. And, many see flipping their homes after one year is a sure fire way to make money. In the end, it will probably crash and burn. The real estate market is full of pitfalls. Will they care if it crashes? Probably not. Most live out of state.

I do not understand who is buying these over-priced one and two year old homes. A buyer can purchase a new home for 50 - 100 thousand less and gain equity instead of throwing that money away. To me, it doesn't make sense.

I think homes being built in the Eastport area will slow resales. A smart buyer will see purchasing a home in that area is a better investment. The new square is going to outdo Brownwood in so many ways- 3 Championship golf courses, an expansive lake, and indoor pickleball to name a few.

Where are these "indoor pickleball courts" you speak of going to be built in Eastport?

I've seen absolutely nothing about them...

The only thing I can find is some being built up off of 466 (which is nowhere near Eastport)

[Randall55]

Where are these "indoor pickleball courts" you speak of going to be built in Eastport?

I've seen absolutely nothing about them...

The only thing I can find is some being built up off of 466 (which is nowhere near Eastport)It was mentioned in a Continuing the Dream video. A rock climbing wall and indoor basketball will also be in the gym.

[MrChip72]

Everything gets more relaxed over time. Look how people dressed when going to a nice restaurant in the 80's compared to now. Look at what people that work in offices wear to work now. Not a suit/tie to be seen in most offices now. Companies used to mainly interact with customers by having a secretary type a formal letter on a letterhead, now it's usually an email or a text message. The end of formality is here.

[Papa_lecki]

Where are these "indoor pickleball courts" you speak of going to be built in Eastport?

I've seen absolutely nothing about them...

The only thing I can find is some being built up off of 466 (which is nowhere near Eastport)

Doc
The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/whatsnew/continuing-the-dream/welcome-to-eastport)

Go to about minute 1:58 of the video. Not dedicated indoor pickle, but an indoor gymnasium, that can have basketball, volleyball or indoor pickleball

[Bilyclub]

They do not understand the danger of driving carts at higher speeds. Could care less what renters are doing in their home. And, many see flipping their homes after one year is a sure fire way to make money. In the end, it will probably crash and burn. The real estate market is full of pitfalls. Will they care if it crashes? Probably not. Most live out of state.

I do not understand who is buying these over-priced one and two year old homes. A buyer can purchase a new home for 50 - 100 thousand less and gain equity instead of throwing that money away. To me, it doesn't make sense.

I think homes being built in the Eastport area will slow resales. A smart buyer will see purchasing a home in that area is a better investment. The new square is going to outdo Brownwood in so many ways- 3 Championship golf courses, an expansive lake, and indoor pickleball to name a few.


That "expansive Lake" is more like a skinny canal for dragon boats to race in. The indoor pickleball courts will cost a good buck to use to keep them from being overwhelmed by the demand.

[dhdallas]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

Its always the "other guys" isn't it. Those darn snowbirds, or the new people, or the visitors, or the outsiders, or the renters but its never, ever, the long-time year-round residents. They never speed, never drive drunk, never have loud parties, never violate deed restrictions, always carry their ID proudly displayed on a lanyard, obey all traffic laws, love their neighbor, and go through every day with a song in their heart and a dance in their steps. Bless their hearts!

[cjrjck]

Bonus living south of 44 is Wildwood PD. It’s definitely a take charge department on speeding. Very happy to see that after living in LSL area.
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One person's treasure is another person's junk. You see this as a positive thing?

[Randall55]

That "expansive Lake" is more like a skinny canal for dragon boats to race in. The indoor pickleball courts will cost a good buck to use to keep them from being overwhelmed by the demand.I was comparing the new square to Brownwood. Brownwoood does not have a lake, an island to enjoy the sunsets, scenic walking trails, a golf course, wellness center, driving range, and so much more. The indoor gym is part of the new recreation center. Perhaps, it will be like the fitness centers in which you have to pay to use. So far, no fees have been mentioned.

My discussion was based on the OP. There are many younger residents with AirBnbs and investment properties. My point is..things change frequently in the Villages. Today's "best homes" become yesterday's news. The area with the new town square along with the 3 championship golf courses will be the next "best homes." Until something else comes along. It has been this way since Spanish Springs was built. There will always be something new and improved. You have to be on your toes if you have investment properties. You can lose as easily as gaining. When LSL was built, there was a HUGE DEMAND. The largest demand I have witnessed since living in the Villages. After a few years, it crashed. Ups and downs happen in real estate.

[Blackbird45]

I've been here for 13 years and what I've notice is some of the nicest people living here are some of the old established residences and they are also some of the worst offenders. Most people living here have made this their last move before taking the big exit. I just enjoy my surrounding. Life is too short, live and let live.

[RICH1]

You didn't finish the sentence. The OP said "more Liberal views on our established rules".
A liberal view of rules means they aren't taken seriously or obeyed. It has nothing to do with politics.
Thank you , that's correct

[RICH1]

Maybe you are right. I don't know but we will see what the OP says if he chooses to respond. He did capitalize the L in liberal....the context was going "soft" and also alluded to the age of the newcomers....but I have been wrong many times before and will continue to be, I'm sure.
This next wave of retirees into the Villages seem to bend the rules, obviously going to test enforcement or the lack of enforcement... and not reporting the known violations, is going " soft". Trying to make it easier to understand for some

[Dotneko]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

We end up passing 2 or 3 in a 45 minute run and our cart only does 20. Maybe 20.5 going downhill with a tailwind. There are plenty of drivers doing 15 or less. Maybe age doesnt easily let them press the pedal to the floor.

[jimdecastro]

Bonus living south of 44 is Wildwood PD. It’s definitely a take charge department on speeding. Very happy to see that after living in LSL area.

Even traveling at wee hours, you will see a cruiser out and about. Great site to see police presence, @ BV crossing 44m at 3am. I wave every time.

Is there anyone in the cruiser?

[Norge]

Instead of posting on this talk show do something about then!
Maybe you can be the spokesmen for the ARC committee…

[thelegges]

Is there anyone in the cruiser?

Always, manned, not a useless empty cruiser like sheriffs dept leaves. I agree Wildwood PD definitely has a comforting presence. I am sure the speedy cars aren’t happy on Meggison, but we are.

[Vermilion Villager]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.
The Villages Golf Cart set battery powered carts at 24mph right out of the box. Gas powered are still set at 19mph. I see a lot of gas powered carts now operating at speeds way over 25mph. It's easy to do at home. I guess time will tell what operating at 20-25% over designed speeds does to them.

[Mulliganguy]

Right, it's only the younger folks who break the rules.
Not true.

[Windguy]

The Villages Golf Cart set battery powered carts at 24mph right out of the box.
The 2015 Yamaha electric I bought from them does 19.5 mph. It cannot be adjusted. Electrics do not have governors like gas carts. You need to replace the controller to change max speed and that costs hundreds of dollars.

[CandJ]

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:Its always the "other guys" isn't it. Those darn snowbirds, or the new people, or the visitors, or the outsiders, or the renters but its never, ever, the long-time year-round residents. They never speed, never drive drunk, never have loud parties, never violate deed restrictions, always carry their ID proudly displayed on a lanyard, obey all traffic laws, love their neighbor, and go through every day with a song in their heart and a dance in their steps. Bless their hearts!

[airstreamingypsy]

You didn't finish the sentence. The OP said "more Liberal views on our established rules".
A liberal view of rules means they aren't taken seriously or obeyed. It has nothing to do with politics.

Except it was capitalized...... "Liberal"

[Bill14564]

The 2015 Yamaha electric I bought from them does 19.5 mph. It cannot be adjusted. Electrics do not have governors like gas carts. You need to replace the controller to change max speed and that costs hundreds of dollars.

I don't know about 2015 models but with newer electric carts the speed can be reprogrammed. The programming device I found was prohibitively expensive but it exists.

[jimjamuser]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.
I am glad that someone mentioned the golf cart governor overrides (need for speed). Having golf carts driving around with DIFFERENT top speeds just asks for problems such as unnecessary passing. Why are retired people in such a hurry - you would think that they would have learned "impulse control" by now. Another problem is golf carts making high speed turns - they have a high center of gravity and can go out of control very easily - plus after happy hour the drivers get extra aggressive. Also, golf carts with altered governors are extra LOUD.

[Wondering]

I have been here since 2005. Everything you mentioned - have concerns about, has existed since 2005. What's liberal? Anything that is different than you or your thinking!

[Gizemo33]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.
Rich1, the items that you are making reference to have been blown completely out of proportion, and in actuality the issues are not of any importance.

I have yet to see a car up on blocks in someone’s driveway. I have yet to see little ants and pink flamingos reducing the property value of our homes.

What I have seen is a reduction in the friendliness of some of the residence caused by the current political divide of the entire country.

It will get worse before it gets better.

[jimjamuser]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.
Is it NOT the JOB of NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH to report such problems? Maybe we need more of them or THEY need more TRAINING.

[ElDiabloJoe]

As far as golf cart speeds go, I have one that goes 31 downhill. Yes, it was tuned by Plowman. No, I do not keep or use it in The Villages, it is at the lake in Tennessee. I no longer drive it at its maximum capabilities.

For the most part, we have all grabbed the prize. We have all made it to retirement. I am enjoying mine heartily! The surest and quickest way for that to come to a crashing halt is a traffic accident. I have come to realize (although it took many decades) that speed is unimportant. If it takes me an extra hour to get back "up north" then so what, I arrive alive and healthy as opposed to the delay an accident muchless an injury would cause.

Same philosophy for when we go golf carting around. So I get to Dunkin' Donuts 50 seconds later than I could have. I miss out on a parking space? So what - I just park further out. I'm not on the clock, I'm not late for anything, I won't miss out on anything by taking my time - except maybe I miss out on an emergency room visit.

YMMV

[JMintzer]

It was mentioned in a Continuing the Dream video. A rock climbing wall and indoor basketball will also be in the gym.

Doc
The Villages - Florida's Friendliest Active Adult 55+ Retirement Community (https://www.thevillages.com/whatsnew/continuing-the-dream/welcome-to-eastport)

Go to about minute 1:58 of the video. Not dedicated indoor pickle, but an indoor gymnasium, that can have basketball, volleyball or indoor pickleball

Okay, I see it. 6 courts in a shared, multi-use gym... Good luck getting one one of them...

[DPWM21]

Rule of law is necessary but we must adjust to those things which are different than our personal beliefs and live and let live.
We Villagers are fortunate to age in Florida. Younger Villagers adjust to slowness and different limitations to older. An example is some of the slow slow driving and apparent lack of awareness by some who, likely and maybe, shouldn’t be driving any longer. Another is being in a Rec Center with someone who coughs and shares their illness in a small area without respect to other’s health.
Tolerance, mutual respect, ability to have differences yet live in peace would go a long way in helping society.
Perhaps those who give tolerance to the apparently confused driver who misses seeing a car…….or those, seeing a older person who needs help with their yard or groceries, even if help given by a ‘liberal’, can help us bridge our differences and find our sameness.
But ‘Rule of Law’ must exist, no one is special, we must abide within certain guidelines. And things change, always have, always will.

[JMintzer]

I was comparing the new square to Brownwood. Brownwoood does not have a lake, an island to enjoy the sunsets, scenic walking trails, a golf course, wellness center, driving range, and so much more. The indoor gym is part of the new recreation center. Perhaps, it will be like the fitness centers in which you have to pay to use. So far, no fees have been mentioned.

My discussion was based on the OP. There are many younger residents with AirBnbs and investment properties. My point is..things change frequently in the Villages. Today's "best homes" become yesterday's news. The area with the new town square along with the 3 championship golf courses will be the next "best homes." Until something else comes along. It has been this way since Spanish Springs was built. There will always be something new and improved. You have to be on your toes if you have investment properties. You can lose as easily as gaining. When LSL was built, there was a HUGE DEMAND. The largest demand I have witnessed since living in the Villages. After a few years, it crashed. Ups and downs happen in real estate.

Demand for LSL has "crashed"?

Seems like it's still quite desirable to me...

[JMintzer]

Not true.

Sarcasm, Sheldon...

[Randall55]

Demand for LSL has "crashed"?

Seems like it's still quite desirable to me...I was talking about the early 2000's when LSL was being built. Demand for the homes was off the charts. In 2007/2008, it crashed. Homes, even new construction, lost value. There have been many ups and downs in the Villages. The housing market does not stay stable.

[JGibson]

Not true.

I guess you didn't detect the sarcasm.

I’ll do better next time.

[DonH57]

Just wondering. If a golf cart governor was set for the lower limit of 25 MPH how long would it take to bake the engine and have to be replaced?

[JMintzer]

I was talking about the early 2000's when LSL was being built. Demand for the homes was off the charts. In 2007/2008, it crashed. Homes, even new construction, lost value. There have been many ups and downs in the Villages. The housing market does not stay stable.

2007-2008 was a National housing crash. It was not specific to TV...

[Marine1974]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

Don’t fret , the next generation are
going to have to pay a heavy price due to the enormous national debt and printing of money that we benefited from .

[srswans]

Rules without enforcement are merely suggestions.

That describes FL exactly - as it is and always has been down here.

Big shift from the yankee and puritan mindset up north.

[justjim]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

We first purchased in 2006. Frankly, I have not seen much change in people as they moved in year after year. The big change is we were among the youngest residents and now we are among the oldest.

[jimjamuser]

The Villages Golf Cart set battery powered carts at 24mph right out of the box. Gas powered are still set at 19mph. I see a lot of gas powered carts now operating at speeds way over 25mph. It's easy to do at home. I guess time will tell what operating at 20-25% over designed speeds does to them.
The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

[jimjamuser]

Just wondering. If a golf cart governor was set for the lower limit of 25 MPH how long would it take to bake the engine and have to be replaced?
Lower top speed should make a cart last longer than with a "jacked up" governor.

[Hockeyguy]

Its always the "other guys" isn't it. Those darn snowbirds, or the new people, or the visitors, or the outsiders, or the renters but its never, ever, the long-time year-round residents. They never speed, never drive drunk, never have loud parties, never violate deed restrictions, always carry their ID proudly displayed on a lanyard, obey all traffic laws, love their neighbor, and go through every day with a song in their heart and a dance in their steps. Bless their hearts!

One of the better replies. Even kinda funny.

[Pommom91]

Darn those whipper snappers! 😁

[ron32162]

I have been here since 2006 in the Duvall area Nothing has changed all the things you mentioned is not new

[haysus7]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

I appreciate you

[sallyg]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.
Yup.

[Topspinmo]

I am glad that someone mentioned the golf cart governor overrides (need for speed). Having golf carts driving around with DIFFERENT top speeds just asks for problems such as unnecessary passing. Why are retired people in such a hurry - you would think that they would have learned "impulse control" by now. Another problem is golf carts making high speed turns - they have a high center of gravity and can go out of control very easily - plus after happy hour the drivers get extra aggressive. Also, golf carts with altered governors are extra LOUD.

Way out there. :popcorn:

[Lisuccia]

I'm not sure why the things described here are considered "liberal?" If you override the golf car governor, that's a liberal thing? There are plenty of adjectives for the behaviors you describe, but I don't think they have anything to do with the age of the retirees or their politics.

Using the word liberal does not necessarily mean to indicate one's political views.

[TEXJK]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.
I drive 15 on the cart paths if you don’t like it go around riding my a## only makes go slower

[MarkD1981]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

Agree 100%. I get passed all the time by carts going 25mph and drivers are not "recent retirees". Same for rude and aggressive driving on the roads.

[PurePeach]

Right, it's only the younger folks who break the rules.
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[coffeebean]

I was talking about the early 2000's when LSL was being built. Demand for the homes was off the charts. In 2007/2008, it crashed. Homes, even new construction, lost value. There have been many ups and downs in the Villages. The housing market does not stay stable.

Not from what my neighbors have told me what it was like in 2007 when Mallory Square was being built. They had two hours to decide if they wanted a specific home. If not, it went to the next person on the list.

[coffeebean]

I drive 15 on the cart paths if you don’t like it go around riding my a## only makes go slower

Why drive so slowly? Is your cart capable of doing the speed limit of 20 MPH? My electric cart does 20.4 MPH on a good down hill and 19.9 MPH on flat land. That seems very safe to me. Why make me have to pass you? I'm certainly not going to drive 15 MPH when my cart can give me the legal speed limit. Passing is dangerous even if one goes about it safely.

[M2inOR]

The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

Interesting suggestion, but...

Should that also be done for automobiles here in Florida? Top speed limit is 70 MPH on the turnpike and interstates. Florida could get a lot more revenue from speeders, as it's rare to see everyone doing at the speed limit or below.

I understand your suggestion. I just don't agree.

In my conversations with law enforcement, they know that speedometers aren't that accurate. They assume that +/- 10% accuracy is the norm.

In some states there's also the "basic rule" for speeding. One can be ticketed or warned even if a vehicle is driving below the speed limit. Sometimes for obstructing current traffic by driving too slow. Other times, driving at a lower speed that is still judged to be too fast for current conditions.

Whether a golf cart, automobile, motorcycle, or even a bicycle, there are many situations where people drive too fast or too slow.

[bsloan1960]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast. We live south of 44. The vast majority of people passing our 20mph golf cart are +- 70 years old. They do this after tailgating us. The majority have golf clubs on the back.

[shirleyjerez]

the Morse family has the get on the ball . get these rules to stay. here in Sumpter co. isn’t bothered with to many rule breakers. but I have heard about renters ruining our standards. that’s got to stop for sure. the Mirses. have to stop this.

[Desiderata]

Why drive so slowly? Is your cart capable of doing the speed limit of 20 MPH? My electric cart does 20.4 MPH on a good down hill and 19.9 MPH on flat land. That seems very safe to me. Why make me have to pass you? I'm certainly not going to drive 15 MPH when my cart can give me the legal speed limit. Passing is dangerous even if one goes about it safely.

I thought the same thing. Someone intentionally driving slow is going to be passed, which potentially creates a dangerous situation. Anyone driving 15 mph and then purposely goes slower because someone wants to drive at the speed limit has serious control issues.

[midiwiz]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

That is a miopic viewpoint. The reality is that it's not actually needed to be coined as a politics thing aka "liberal" The fact is that a lot of the frogs etc, don't really get the so called rules. Does the gold cart governer really matter? No it does not. AirBNBs? well you guys actually caused all that. trailers ok fine but I don't see a lot of it. ARC process depends on the CDD just because one CDD is more restrictive that the other it's not going around. Actually speaking from experience this is another area where the frog group just doesn't read. Also it's not YOUR job to police any of this. Mind your own business and make sure you are doing the right things, believe it or not, all these things you say the others do has absolutely NO effect on you. If it doesn't crap on your life it's none of your business.

[RickyLee]

That describes FL exactly - as it is and always has been down here.

Big shift from the yankee and puritan mindset up north.
There's always up north...

[donfey]

Get off my lawn!

We gotta BE "That Guy!"

[Indydealmaker]

I am pretty much passed by every golf cart when out. I have an operating governor that keeps me just below 20 MPH.

And it has been that way since we got that golf cart. This was probably around 2015.

Scofflaws.

[Indydealmaker]

It seems like the Next Generation of Retirees are moving in with more Liberal views on our established rules. Golf cart governor over-rides, pool IDs, AirBnbs, parking trailers in driveways, going around the ARC process, it goes on and on, and neighbors are afraid to report, and confront their neighbors about these infractions. I guess being "soft" is going to be make The Villages just another " all about me" neighborhood.. It's getting old fast.

I would call it more irresponsible than liberal. We need to lobby Florida for CDDs to gain enforcement powers.

[JMintzer]

Why drive so slowly? Is your cart capable of doing the speed limit of 20 MPH? My electric cart does 20.4 MPH on a good down hill and 19.9 MPH on flat land. That seems very safe to me. Why make me have to pass you? I'm certainly not going to drive 15 MPH when my cart can give me the legal speed limit. Passing is dangerous even if one goes about it safely.

A certain poster here (he may be on "vacation" right now), likes to remind people that "SLOW DRIVERS" cause just as many accidents (possibly more) than faster drivers...

Passive aggressive drivers who "slow down when someone is on their @ss" are just as dangerous as those wishing do go a few MPHs faster...

[JMintzer]

The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

Nonsense...

My car has a top speed of over 120 mph... Which is already well above the posted speed limits...

If I boost its performance to 130, should that be "more illegal"? As long as I obey the speed limits, what's the problem? Same with golf carts...

[Larchap49]

Rules without enforcement are merely suggestions.

I agree and the more I hear and read it seems TV is very reluctant to rattle anyone's cage by enforcing their own rules. Also TV seem very inconsistent in the ones they do enforce. One thing they are consistent with is raising the cost of everything they control.

[Shimpy]

We just got a new Yamaha and it tops out at 20. Most of the time, it's at 19, even on flat ground. And yes, we get passed quite a bit. But I am not in a hurry to get anywhere when I'm in a golf car. If I have to get there fast, I will take my car.

What if in golf cart and the need to make an emergency toilet stop?

[GoRedSox!]

What if in golf cart and the need to make an emergency toilet stop?Well, of course, now we are getting to an issue for men at age 63 that I would rather not talk about but is a reality. I have only had this experience once so far, and Edna's was right around the corner. I'm still not going to be in a rush, in the case of need, I will program the GPS for the nearest rec center, there is always one close by.

Another reality is that my golf car will not go over 20 no matter the situation. 19-20 is the maximum speed. Is this typical for Yamaha gas cars?

[cjrjck]

The Police should do spot checks for golf carts with altered top speeds. The gas carts that can go over 20 MPH should get large dollar tickets. Police are responsible for SAFETY and golf carts with higher speed just encourages too much aggressive passing.

Yeah, that's exactly how local police departments should allocate their limited resources. Those darned golf carts that have been tampered with.

[Marathon Man]

Nonsense...

My car has a top speed of over 120 mph... Which is already well above the posted speed limits...

If I boost its performance to 130, should that be "more illegal"? As long as I obey the speed limits, what's the problem? Same with golf carts...

Not the same. This has been talked about and explained countless times.

[jimjamuser]

That is a miopic viewpoint. The reality is that it's not actually needed to be coined as a politics thing aka "liberal" The fact is that a lot of the frogs etc, don't really get the so called rules. Does the gold cart governer really matter? No it does not. AirBNBs? well you guys actually caused all that. trailers ok fine but I don't see a lot of it. ARC process depends on the CDD just because one CDD is more restrictive that the other it's not going around. Actually speaking from experience this is another area where the frog group just doesn't read. Also it's not YOUR job to police any of this. Mind your own business and make sure you are doing the right things, believe it or not, all these things you say the others do has absolutely NO effect on you. If it doesn't crap on your life it's none of your business.
I disagree with part of this reply. That is, Golf Cart governors being changed for more speed. The GAS (as opposed to electric carts) have a HIGH center of gravity, which in combination with HIGHER speeds and often intoxication, cause the MANY golf Cart accidents that we read about. Ones like, "golf cart crashes into a palm tree and the driver is too drunk to get out of the vehicle".
.......A couple of days ago there was a story written by a bicycle rider that said a speeding and out of control golf cart cut him off and he flew over the handlebars and cut his knees. Also, it was a hit and run. I can just imagine that the Golf Cart had its speed settings tampered with.
........The only answer is for Police to make spot checks of suspiciously fast Golf Carts and issue HUGE tickets.
..........Some people may want to "poo-poo" THIS entire situation and NOT be able to RELATE to the injured bicyclist because they are always riding in an automobile or a Golf Cart. But, younger retirees want to enjoy the exercise and freedom of their bike rides. And more and MORE people are buying E-bikes in our age group.
.........It IS the RESPONSIBILITY of The Village owner / managers to PROMOTE safety through their POLICE FORCE. The idea of faster and faster Golf Carts is NOT "cute". It is DANGEROUS !!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

Yeah, that's exactly how local police departments should allocate their limited resources. Those darned golf carts that have been tampered with.
Please ask WHY the Police numbers and resources are LIMITED. We are a RICH community that pays TONS of money in taxes and activities fees. And also goes out to restaurants at a HIGH rate, which gives additional money to the DEVELOPERS. Remember in New York the increased Police presence and efficiency BEGAN with a need to stop "the broken window effect". Well, we have a "failure to Police the ILLEGAL speeds of Golf Carts" situation that is COMPARABLE.
.........Since it was just admitted that The Villages LACKS sufficient Police for the wealth of the area - I can imagine that any local CROOK then also is aware of that fact. And heaven FORBID that a crazed mass murderer wanted to attack an evening SQUARE - what then? Add more POLICE..........after the fact.
........Old people are ALWAYS a target of CRIME. And old RICH people are a greater target.
.........Conclusion.......when we have ENOUGH POLICE PRESENCE to deter ILLEGAL Golf Cart speeding, we will have enough POLICE PRESENCE to deter the more SERIOUS CRIMES. Everyone agrees that we The Villages CITIZENS are paying a lot to be here. Surely we DESERVE to be SAFE!!!!

[Laker14]

A certain poster here (he may be on "vacation" right now), likes to remind people that "SLOW DRIVERS" cause just as many accidents (possibly more) than faster drivers...

Passive aggressive drivers who "slow down when someone is on their @ss" are just as dangerous as those wishing do go a few MPHs faster...

You have slightly misstated the actual wording of the "study". What it stated was that slow drivers are "more likely to be involved in" an accident, not that they necessarily "caused" the accident.

The poster of which you speak, and I ,had a lengthy back and forth on this difference. Even he agreed eventually that this statistic may well reflect the likelihood that "slow" drivers are driving slowly because they are aged and recognize that they don't see so well, their reflexes aren't what they used to be etc. etc.

The study also stated that while they may be involved in more accidents, it did not study the severity of accidents, and the relationship between severity and speed.

[JMintzer]

Not the same. This has been talked about and explained countless times.

Why isn't it the same? Because you say so?

[JMintzer]

Please ask WHY the Police numbers are LIMITED. We are a RICH community that pays TONS of money in taxes and activities fees. And also goes out to restaurants at a HIGH rate, which give additional money to the DEVELOPERS. Remember in New York the increased Police presence and efficiency BEGAN with a need to stop "the broken window effect". Well, we have a "failure to Police the ILLEGAL speeds of Golf Carts" situation that is COMPARABLE.
.........Since it was just admitted that The Villages LACKS sufficient Police for the wealth of the area - I can imagine that any local CROOK then also is aware of that fact. And heaven FORBID that a crazed mass murderer wanted to attack an evening SQUARE - what then? Add more POLICE..........after the fact.
........Old people are ALWAYS a target of CRIME. And old RICH people are a greater target.
.........Conclusion.......when we have ENOUGH POLICE PRESENCE to deter ILLEGAL Golf Cart speeding, we will have enough POLICE PRESENCE to deter the more SERIOUS CRIMES. Everyone agrees that we The Villages CITIZENS are paying a lot to be here. Surely we DESERVE to be SAFE!!!!

The DEVELOPERS do not pay for local police...

[JMintzer]

I disagree with part of this reply. That is, Golf Cart governors being changed for more speed. The GAS (as opposed to electric carts) have a HIGH center of gravity, which in combination with HIGHER speeds and often intoxication, cause the MANY golf Cart accidents that we read about. Ones like, "golf cart crashes into a palm tree and the driver is too drunk to get out of the vehicle".
.......A couple of days ago there was a story written by a bicycle rider that said a speeding and out of control golf cart cut him off and he flew over the handlebars and cut his knees. Also, it was a hit and run. I can just imagine that the Golf Cart had its speed settings tampered with.
........The only answer is for Police to make spot checks of suspiciously fast Golf Carts and issue HUGE tickets.
..........Some people may want to "poo-poo" THIS entire situation and NOT be able to RELATE to the injured bicyclist because they are always riding in an automobile or a Golf Cart. But, younger retirees want to enjoy the exercise and freedom of their bike rides. And more and MORE people are buying E-bikes in our age group.
.........It IS the RESPONSIBILITY of The Village owner / managers to PROMOTE safety through their POLICE FORCE. The idea of faster and faster Golf Carts is NOTE "cute". It is DANGEROUS !!!!!!!

There are plenty of EVs that are driven by drunk drivers. Why assume it's only "Gas Carts"?

And this supposed "high center of gravity" causes drunks to crash into palm trees?

Many EVs have lifted suspensions, resulting in a "high center of gravity". Add to that, they have a faster acceleration. Why are they not a problem?

[JMintzer]

You have slightly misstated the actual wording of the "study". What it stated was that slow drivers are "more likely to be involved in" an accident, not that they necessarily "caused" the accident.

The poster of which you speak, and I ,had a lengthy back and forth on this difference. Even he agreed eventually that this statistic may well reflect the likelihood that "slow" drivers are driving slowly because they are aged and recognize that they don't see so well, their reflexes aren't what they used to be etc. etc.

The study also stated that while they may be involved in more accidents, it did not study the severity of accidents, and the relationship between severity and speed.

I never mentioned any "study"...

"Left lane Louies" (and people who intentionally slow down when someone comes up "on their @ss") are just as likely to be younger drivers as they are to be older drivers. Passive aggression has no age requirements...

[Bogie Shooter]

I agree and the more I hear and read it seems TV is very reluctant to rattle anyone's cage by enforcing their own rules. Also TV seem very inconsistent in the ones they do enforce. One thing they are consistent with is raising the cost of everything they control.

And you live where?

[jimjamuser]

Yeah, that's exactly how local police departments should allocate their limited resources. Those darned golf carts that have been tampered with.
Maybe the problem IS the limited resources. 10 Policemen would cost less that ONE high priced Corporate lawyer.

[cjrjck]

Please ask WHY the Police numbers and resources are LIMITED. We are a RICH community that pays TONS of money in taxes and activities fees. And also goes out to restaurants at a HIGH rate, which gives additional money to the DEVELOPERS. Remember in New York the increased Police presence and efficiency BEGAN with a need to stop "the broken window effect". Well, we have a "failure to Police the ILLEGAL speeds of Golf Carts" situation that is COMPARABLE.
.........Since it was just admitted that The Villages LACKS sufficient Police for the wealth of the area - I can imagine that any local CROOK then also is aware of that fact. And heaven FORBID that a crazed mass murderer wanted to attack an evening SQUARE - what then? Add more POLICE..........after the fact.
........Old people are ALWAYS a target of CRIME. And old RICH people are a greater target.
.........Conclusion.......when we have ENOUGH POLICE PRESENCE to deter ILLEGAL Golf Cart speeding, we will have enough POLICE PRESENCE to deter the more SERIOUS CRIMES. Everyone agrees that we The Villages CITIZENS are paying a lot to be here. Surely we DESERVE to be SAFE!!!!

Such naivety. Spoken like someone who has no clue how public service sectors work and are funded. You need a civics lesson if you don't get how resources are allocated within a city's budget and how many of the city's departments are competing for those limited funds. TV is not as rich as you want to believe and you forget that Wilwood services much more than just The Villages. So as much as you want the Wildwood PD to focus on non-conforming golf carts, I am sure that most of the other folks in Wildwood, especially those not in The Villages, would prefer they focus on more important things.

[Dreah]

I'm not sure why the things described here are considered "liberal?" If you override the golf car governor, that's a liberal thing? There are plenty of adjectives for the behaviors you describe, but I don't think they have anything to do with the age of the retirees or their politics.

I agree with you.

[jimjamuser]

Such naivety. Spoken like someone who has no clue how public service sectors work and are funded. You need a civics lesson if you don't get how resources are allocated within a city's budget and how many of the city's departments are competing for those limited funds. TV is not as rich as you want to believe and you forget that Wilwood services much more than just The Villages. So as much as you want the Wildwood PD to focus on non-conforming golf carts, I am sure that most of the other folks in Wildwood, especially those not in The Villages, would prefer they focus on more important things.
WONDERFUL !!!! Just pour the INSULTS on me. I don't CARE about Wildwood in particular or THEIR Police department. I was referring to The Villages Police. I would NOT care if the Community Services people gave out tickets for ALTERED top speed equipment. I just want SOMEBODY (some official somebody) to get behind the idea of a uniform TOP SPEED for the TV Land golf carts.
.......Residents of TV have a LEGITIMATE need for SAFETY. Officials of TV need to provide the budget and the details for that SAFETY. Safety is the main goal of ALL government units from Federal to State and LOCAL. Safety can NOT be EXCLUDED from ANY local budget. If TV Land can ENFORCE building codes for SAFETY, then, for SAFETY they can enforce golf cart speed controls. We had a recent incident of a bicyclist being seriously hurt by a negligent operation of a golf cart driver. The bicyclist has to share the multi use paths with golf carts going NORMAL speeds and the souped up fools.
........By being TV residents, they PAY for SAFETY and in this case, they are NOT receiving SAFETY. Personally, if I had a vote on whether to add more Police to enforce ALL SAFETY issues or constantly replacing flowers on the roundabouts. Or constantly having broken gates because they can't make the warning signs big enough or bright enough. Or having INSANELY tall Christmas trees just dripping with decoration MONEY.
..........I wonder, could there be MONEY taken out of the square entertainment budget. What about the MONEY for the POLO grounds, which myself and thousands of other Village RESIDENTS would NEVER set foot in. And could we do WITHOUT EVEN ONE golf course for 20 POLICEPERSONS. I know how I would vote! And now you ALL DO TOO !!!!!!!

[JMintzer]

WONDERFUL !!!! Just pour the INSULTS on me. I don't CARE about Wildwood in particular or THEIR Police department. I was referring to The Villages Police. I would NOT care if the Community Services people gave out tickets for ALTERED top speed equipment. I just want SOMEBODY (some official somebody) to get behind the idea of a uniform TOP SPEED for the TV Land golf carts.
.......Residents of TV have a LEGITIMATE need for SAFETY. Officials of TV need to provide the budget and the details for that SAFETY. Safety is the main goal of ALL government units from Federal to State and LOCAL. Safety can NOT be EXCLUDED from ANY local budget. If TV Land can ENFORCE building codes for SAFETY, then, for SAFETY they can enforce golf cart speed controls. We had a recent incident of a bicyclist being seriously hurt by a negligent operation of a golf cart driver. The bicyclist has to share the multi use paths with golf carts going NORMAL speeds and the souped up fools.
........By being TV residents, they PAY for SAFETY and in this case, they are NOT receiving SAFETY. Personally, if I had a vote on whether to add more Police to enforce ALL SAFETY issues or constantly replacing flowers on the roundabouts. Or constantly having broken gates because they can't make the warning signs big enough or bright enough. Or having INSANELY tall Christmas trees just dripping with decoration MONEY.
..........I wonder, could there be MONEY taken out of the square entertainment budget. What about the MONEY for the POLO grounds, which myself and thousands of other Village RESIDENTS would NEVER set foot in. And could we do WITHOUT EVEN ONE golf course for 20 POLICEPERSONS. I know how I would vote! And now you ALL DO TOO !!!!!!!

TV doesn't have it's OWN Police Department... So you SHOULD care about Wildwood, Marion and Lake COUNTY police DEPARTMENTS, since THEY are the ones who provide your perceived PROTECTION...

Random CAPITALIZATION won't change that FACT...

[ElDiabloJoe]

TV doesn't have it's OWN Police Department... So you SHOULD care about Wildwood, Marion and Lake COUNTY police DEPARTMENTS, since THEY are the ones who provide your perceived PROTECTION...

Random CAPITALIZATION won't change that FACT...

The random CAPITALIZAATION and LACK of civics KNOWLEDGE is a sure REMINDER of those MEMES of young college PEOPLE who are OUT protesting by SCREAMING at the TOP of their lungs and SHAKING their signs at PEOPLE who are just trying TO GO about their DAY peacefully.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Serious question here:

Why would someone post such strongly held thoughts/opinions/beliefs and then delete them all? I just went through to find the original post that others have quoted in their own replies, and the OP (of the posts, not the thread) apparently removed them. I went through all 7 pages of the thread twice and could not find that person's posts. Did the system hide them or am I missing something here?

[JMintzer]

Serious question here:

Why would someone post such strongly held thoughts/opinions/beliefs and then delete them all? I just went through to find the original post that others have quoted in their own replies, and the OP (of the posts, not the thread) apparently removed them. I went through all 7 pages of the thread twice and could not find that person's posts. Did the system hide them or am I missing something here?

No idea... Who was the poster? (I don't see any posts that have been deleted. You usually will see something like ///, because you cannot delete your entire post, only the admins can do that...)

[ElDiabloJoe]

No idea... Who was the poster? (I don't see any posts that have been deleted. You usually will see something like ///, because you cannot delete your entire post, only the admins can do that...)
Rhymes with jimjamuser

[ElDiabloJoe]

No idea... Who was the poster? (I don't see any posts that have been deleted. You usually will see something like ///, because you cannot delete your entire post, only the admins can do that...)

He is quoted in:

Post #65 by Topspinmo;
Post #72 by M2inOR;
Post #'s 82, 92, 93, and 100 by JMintzer, and;
Post #'s 86 and 97 by cjrjck.

However, going through all 7 pages of the thread do not reveal ANY posts by jimjamuser.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED: Posts that are missing from the thread (completely removed) are post #'s 42, 45, 58, 59, 88, 89, 96, and 99.

Perhaps people can remove their entire posts - or else he had moderator assistance in doing so.

You can still access the posts that are now missing entirely by going to his page and clicking on "Find all posts by jimjamuser" and they are listed there after all the recent EV thread posts.

Very interesting.

[Bill14564]

He is quoted in:

Post #65 by Topspinmo;
Post #72 by M2inOR;
Post #'s 82, 92, 93, and 100 by JMintzer, and;
Post #'s 86 and 97 by cjrjck.

However, going through all 7 pages of the thread do not reveal ANY posts by jimjamuser.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED: Posts that are missing from the thread (completely removed) are post #'s 42, 45, 58, 59, 88, 89, 96, and 99.

Perhaps people can remove their entire posts - or else he had moderator assistance in doing so.

Have you, by any chance, "ignored" JJ? A configuration change to the forums a few months ago now make those posts completely invisible which sounds much like eight posts you noted.

[ElDiabloJoe]

Have you, by any chance, "ignored" JJ? A configuration change to the forums a few months ago now make those posts completely invisible which sounds much like eight posts you noted.

Ahhhh, yes! A new lesson learned by an old dog. I had indeed placed him on PermaBan for his constant railing about Karen-like issues and Climate Change lies / propaganda / misinformation.

[JMintzer]

He is quoted in:

Post #65 by Topspinmo;
Post #72 by M2inOR;
Post #'s 82, 92, 93, and 100 by JMintzer, and;
Post #'s 86 and 97 by cjrjck.

However, going through all 7 pages of the thread do not reveal ANY posts by jimjamuser.

IT SHOULD BE NOTED: Posts that are missing from the thread (completely removed) are post #'s 42, 45, 58, 59, 88, 89, 96, and 99.

Perhaps people can remove their entire posts - or else he had moderator assistance in doing so.

You can still access the posts that are now missing entirely by going to his page and clicking on "Find all posts by jimjamuser" and they are listed there after all the recent EV thread posts.

Very interesting.

I'm seeing some of those posts from jimmyjam...

Once again... Ponderous...

[JMintzer]

Ahhhh, yes! A new lesson learned by an old dog. I had indeed placed him on PermaBan for his constant railing about Karen-like issues and Climate Change lies / propaganda / misinformation.

Well, problem solved...

Of course, he'll never see any of my replies to him (unless someone quotes my post), since he's put me on "ignore". Which explains why he won't respond to my simple question about what EV he drives, when imploring others to buy one...

[cjrjck]

I don't CARE about Wildwood in particular or THEIR Police department. I was referring to The Villages Police. I would NOT care if the Community Services people gave out tickets for ALTERED top speed equipment. I just want SOMEBODY (some official somebody) to get behind the idea of a uniform TOP SPEED for the TV Land golf carts.
.......Residents of TV have a LEGITIMATE need for SAFETY. Officials of TV need to provide the budget and the details for that SAFETY. Safety is the main goal of ALL government units from Federal to State and LOCAL. Safety can NOT be EXCLUDED from ANY local budget. If TV Land can ENFORCE building codes for SAFETY, then, for SAFETY they can enforce golf cart speed controls.. Personally, if I had a vote on whether to add more Police to enforce ALL SAFETY issues or constantly replacing flowers on the roundabouts. Or constantly having broken gates because they can't make the warning signs big enough or bright enough. Or having INSANELY tall Christmas trees just dripping with decoration MONEY.
..........I wonder, could there be MONEY taken out of the square entertainment budget. What about the MONEY for the POLO grounds, which myself and thousands of other Village RESIDENTS would NEVER set foot in. And could we do WITHOUT EVEN ONE golf course for 20 POLICEPERSONS. I know how I would vote! And now you ALL DO TOO !!!!!!!

I don't believe that non-law enforcement personnel can implement a traffic stop and issue a citation. At least not on public roads. In fact, trying to do such a thing could land a non-law enforcement person in serious trouble. And I do not know how TV could legally create its own police department. What jurisdiction would it fall under? You are talking three different counties and numerous cities. There would have to be some kind of charter and it would have to have state approval. Not going to happen under the current structure. If the problem of non-conforming golf carts is as prevalent as you say it is, perhaps a public awareness campaign would work better than trying to direct LEO's from a half dozen or more police departments to take up that cause.

[RICH1]

This post was about looking the other way and not reporting violations... the new generation of retirees insist on bending the rules...

[RICH1]

That is a miopic viewpoint. The reality is that it's not actually needed to be coined as a politics thing aka "liberal" The fact is that a lot of the frogs etc, don't really get the so called rules. Does the gold cart governer really matter? No it does not. AirBNBs? well you guys actually caused all that. trailers ok fine but I don't see a lot of it. ARC process depends on the CDD just because one CDD is more restrictive that the other it's not going around. Actually speaking from experience this is another area where the frog group just doesn't read. Also it's not YOUR job to police any of this. Mind your own business and make sure you are doing the right things, believe it or not, all these things you say the others do has absolutely NO effect on you. If it doesn't crap on your life it's none of your business.
But it is, I pay to live here! and please , liberal is not about politics...

[MorTech]

A lack of Karens always makes life more intolerable.

[JMintzer]

A lack of Karens always makes life more intolerable.

https://i.redd.it/2sfeusw9nb821.jpg

[ElDiabloJoe]

I am certain non-law enforcement personnel cannot initiate a legal detention (i.e.- pedestrian or vehicle traffic stop). Doing so is a significant crime called False Imprisonment (the unlawful restricting of one's movements) and a lesser significant Impersonating a police officer.

Those powers and authorities are only granted to sworn government agents aka gun toters. If they don't have one, they aren't sworn LE. Of course, some will have firearms that are not sworn law enforcement, like armed security guards, but ALL sworn police officers/deputies/federal agents, etc. in the U.S. will carry a firearm.

The Villages could set up an autonomous district like Disney did with the Reedy District. However, as pointed out by cjrjck, not likely to happen in the current political environment.

JMintzer, JimmyJam (funny) may not have an EV or any vehicle at all. He just turned 81 last month, so he may not drive. Probably shouldn't. He's the old guy standing on the side of the cart path shaking his fist at those speeding "Utes." For comparison sake, that is the same age as the current President of the U.S.

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This post was about looking the other way and not reporting violations... the new generation of retirees insist on bending the rules...

As one of the new generation of retirees, I find the above statement a bit odd. ALL the rule bending I read about and personally observe is being done by those that arrived before me and appear to be much older than me. Must of us young whippersnappers are still watching you old guys to see what we can get away with.