Will This Apply to Lithium Battery Golf Carts?

[Michael G.]

Below is a statement about EV cars/trucks only.

The statement that "tires are the new oil change" resonates with the industry, particularly due to the weight of EVs' batteries. EVs often weigh significantly more than their internal-combustion-engine counterparts, making regular tire rotations crucial.

Does it factor in lithium golf cars also?
Are the lithium battery carts tires different?

[MrChip72]

We've driven a 4 seater lithium cart from the brand Evolution. The cart was around 120lbs more than a 4 seater Yamaha gas cart. I don't think that amount of weight is going to make a difference at all.

It seems that the engines in the gas carts make up a lot of the weight.

[Altavia]

Below is a statement about EV cars/trucks only.

The statement that "tires are the new oil change" resonates with the industry, particularly due to the weight of EVs' batteries. EVs often weigh significantly more than their internal-combustion-engine counterparts, making regular tire rotations crucial.

Does it factor in lithium golf cars also?
Are the lithium battery carts tires different?

They weigh less than lead acid battery carts.

[dhdallas]

Below is a statement about EV cars/trucks only.

The statement that "tires are the new oil change" resonates with the industry, particularly due to the weight of EVs' batteries. EVs often weigh significantly more than their internal-combustion-engine counterparts, making regular tire rotations crucial.

Does it factor in lithium golf cars also?
Are the lithium battery carts tires different?

I have four 12v 100ah LiFePO4 lithium batteries in my cart and it is so light I can almost lift the front end by myself. I don't see how a Lithium Ion powered cart could ever weigh as much as a gas cart. Golf carts do not require the massive battery array that cars do necessary to propel a full size vehicle at high speeds and still have decent range. My total battery weight is just over 100 pounds. As for your cart tire question, my cart is running the small Kenda Hole-N-1 tires on little 8 inch rims and they are fine.

[Topspinmo]

We've driven a 4 seater lithium cart from the brand Evolution. The cart was around 120lbs more than a 4 seater Yamaha gas cart. I don't think that amount of weight is going to make a difference at all.

It seems that the engines in the gas carts make up a lot of the weight.


G29 Yamaha gas engine weights around 80 pounds, add another 20 for generator, the trans axle problem weighs 130 or so. Problem weight slightly more than electric counterpart with lead acid batteries and of course hundred pounds or more less than same electric cart with lithium batteries.

[Bill14564]

From a 2023 Yamaha brochure:

EFI weight with fuel: 785lb
Lead acid weight with battery: 1063lb
LI weight with battery: 811lb

[PoolBrews]

The Evolution D5 Ranger is a 4 seat forward facing cart - slightly longer than a standard Drive 2, but 14" shorter than the Yamaha 4 seat forward facing model. It has a lithium battery. The standard Drive 2 (without all the upgrades that we put on it) is 758lbs when the tank is filled with gas. Probably a little over 800lbs when all the upgrades are added.

The EV D5 weighs 1,058 lbs with the 110ah battery, and 1,129 lbs with the 205ah battery. So it's between 258 and 329 lbs heavier than a standard Yamaha. I don't think the additional 300 lbs will significantly affect tire life, especially at the speeds golf carts are driven at.

I'm taking delivery of the 205ah version any day now - it should get somewhere between 70-100 miles per charge.

[Bill14564]

The Evolution D5 Ranger is a 4 seat forward facing cart - slightly longer than a standard Drive 2, but 14" shorter than the Yamaha 4 seat forward facing model. It has a lithium battery. The standard Drive 2 (without all the upgrades that we put on it) is 758lbs when the tank is filled with gas. Probably a little over 800lbs when all the upgrades are added.

The EV D5 weighs 1,058 lbs with the 110ah battery, and 1,129 lbs with the 205ah battery. So it's between 258 and 329 lbs heavier than a standard Yamaha. I don't think the additional 300 lbs will significantly affect tire life, especially at the speeds golf carts are driven at.

I'm taking delivery of the 205ah version any day now - it should get somewhere between 70-100 miles per charge.

From a Yamaha brochure, the Drive 2 Concierge 4 (forward facing four seater) weights are:

EFI: 1010lbs
Lead acid: 1234lbs
LI: (This is not listed as an option)

[mntlblok]

From a 2023 Yamaha brochure:

EFI weight with fuel: 785lb
Lead acid weight with battery: 1063lb
LI weight with battery: 811lb

Doesn't blatantly and flagrantly posting such data take all (or most) of the fun out of it??

[Dusty_Star]

Doesn't blatantly and flagrantly posting such data take all (or most) of the fun out of it??

:1rotfl:

[Bill14564]

Doesn't blatantly and flagrantly posting such data take all (or most) of the fun out of it??

I'm sorry :sad:

[srswans]

Below is a statement about EV cars/trucks only.

…making regular tire rotations crucial.

Does it factor in lithium golf cars also?
Are the lithium battery carts tires different?

Weight and torque are the two main reasons EVs have higher tire wear. The posters here have established that lithium carts weigh about the same as gas so that is not an issue.


However, the lithium carts do have more torque, and rear-wheel drive, so more frequent tires rotation may be needed.

[PoolBrews]

Weight and torque are the two main reasons EVs have higher tire wear. The posters here have established that lithium carts weigh about the same as gas so that is not an issue.


However, the lithium carts do have more torque, and rear-wheel drive, so more frequent tires rotation may be needed.

On the Evolution D5 carts the torque and acceleration are adjustable. I'm having the ramp up acceleration on mine toned down as it does take off very quickly.

[Southwest737]

“regular tire rotations are crucial”?
And why is that? Never rotated my Ezgo with lithium tires. 7 years now. Same tires. Tire rotation is a waste of time.

[GlenM]

Doesn't blatantly and flagrantly posting such data take all (or most) of the fun out of it??

I know what I believe; don't confuse me with facts. 😁

[midiwiz]

Below is a statement about EV cars/trucks only.

The statement that "tires are the new oil change" resonates with the industry, particularly due to the weight of EVs' batteries. EVs often weigh significantly more than their internal-combustion-engine counterparts, making regular tire rotations crucial.

Does it factor in lithium golf cars also?
Are the lithium battery carts tires different?

SMH like this should even be a question..... sigh

[mntlblok]

SMH like this should even be a question..... sigh

Do explain, please.

[Topspinmo]

“regular tire rotations are crucial”?
And why is that? Never rotated my Ezgo with lithium tires. 7 years now. Same tires. Tire rotation is a waste of time.


Have you looked at tires?

[MrChip72]

“regular tire rotations are crucial”?
And why is that? Never rotated my Ezgo with lithium tires. 7 years now. Same tires. Tire rotation is a waste of time.

My Yamaha gas cart is 8 years old with original tires. I bought it less than 2 years ago from the original owner. Last month the rear tires were down to nearly bald while the front tires looked barely worn. We called "The Tire Guy" who is well respected in TV and he recommended we replace the 2 rear tires completely.

It's quite obvious that tire rotation would've extended the life of those tires if they were rotated.

[EdFNJ]

MOST electric golf carts are designed (center of gravity) around the weight of about 400-500lbs of regular batteries sitting in the middle under the seats depending on the carts voltage requirments (mine is 72V). When they are "upgraded" to about 150lbs of lithium batteries it has to affect the COG. If one buys a cart that is DESIGNED for lithium batteries, it would likely take that weight under consideration. I have also read where some places doing UPGRADES add a couple hundred pounds of BALLAST to maintain the same COG by using old not connected regular batteries.

[jimjamuser]

MOST electric golf carts are designed (center of gravity) around the weight of about 400-500lbs of regular batteries sitting in the middle under the seats depending on the carts voltage requirments (mine is 72V). When they are "upgraded" to about 150lbs of lithium batteries it has to affect the COG. If one buys a cart that is DESIGNED for lithium batteries, it would likely take that weight under consideration. I have also read where some places doing UPGRADES add a couple hundred pounds of BALLAST to maintain the same COG by using old not connected regular batteries.
That seems strange to add weight just to add weight. Maybe after lighter batteries were added a customer complained that it made the springs seem stiffer and the ride seemed rougher. So, the dealer just added weight instead of changing the springs? That's the only explanation that I can think of (and it's not a very good one).