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Redsmom
01-02-2024, 09:51 AM
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.
I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?
callalily
01-02-2024, 09:57 AM
I'm sure your neighbor doesn't expect you to do their weeding. They are responsible for the landscaping on their property. You can call deed compliance about the weeds. 352-751-3912
villagetinker
01-02-2024, 10:02 AM
No protocol that I know of, and filing a complaint will probably make things worse. Personally I would not clear out the weeds, as you might become liable for damage if something happens to the hedge. Unfortunately this is their property and their responsibility.
retiredguy123
01-02-2024, 10:02 AM
I'm confused. If the stones and weeds are not on your property, I wouldn't do anything with them. If the weeds are on your property, I would have no problem spraying them with a weed killer, being careful to not spray it on their property.
Bogie Shooter
01-02-2024, 10:27 AM
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.
I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..
tophcfa
01-02-2024, 10:30 AM
I would talk to the neighbor and let them know you don’t like looking at the weeds on their property that face your view. If they respond positively, end of issue. If not, explain to them that it’s their responsibility and you really don’t want to have to call community standards on them and would appreciate them taking care of the situation. At that point, if they refuse to take responsibility and rectify the situation, they are effectively saying F U to you and I would have no problem reporting them to community standards. The complaint would NOT be anonymous. Best of luck.
fdpaq0580
01-02-2024, 10:47 AM
Question. Would you be willing to spray "their" weeds when you spray your own. That way, they would not have to trespass onto your yard to spray weeds. By all means, check with them first. Neighbors helping and cooperating. Nice.
vintageogauge
01-02-2024, 10:55 AM
Just ask them if you can spray the weeds saving them the cost and effort. if they say no do it anyway, you're not going to hurt their shrubs with light weed killer, I've been spraying mine for years with no damage other than to the weeds.
Gpsma
01-02-2024, 11:51 AM
They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why
Randall55
01-02-2024, 01:00 PM
They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why
Do you weed and maintain your neighbors' yards at your own expense? I wouldn't. I would talk to the neighbor. Many homes were bought preowned. Maybe, they do not know their property line.
retiredguy123
01-02-2024, 01:17 PM
You may want to use your survey plat and a long tape measure to identify exactly where your property line is located. Drive a few wood or metal stakes in the ground to identify the property line. I would not be doing anything on your neighbor's property. If they have weeds, leave them alone, unless they are violating a specific deed restriction. If they are, you can report it to the deed compliance office. There is no protocol.
Topspinmo
01-02-2024, 01:29 PM
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..
Some people are NOT friendly/sociable and only feel neighborly if you are doing something for them or what they want. Then, there ones who want no contact. Several in my neighborhood. Luckily to get wave out of them. :shrug:
retiredguy123
01-02-2024, 01:35 PM
Some people are NOT friendly/sociable and only feel neighborly if you are doing something for them or what they want. Then, there ones who want no contact. Several in my neighborhood. Luckily to get wave out of them. :shrug:
I have lived in condominium buildings where some people don't even know who lives next door, and don't want to.
Redsmom
01-02-2024, 09:31 PM
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..
We did introduce ourselves soon after we moved in and had a nice conversation with the couple. We specifically mentioned that we liked having the hedge as it gave us privacy in our backyard. We wanted to mention this to them because we understood that the people who lived there previously had complained about the hedge.
mtdjed
01-02-2024, 11:26 PM
We did introduce ourselves soon after we moved in and had a nice conversation with the couple. We specifically mentioned that we liked having the hedge as it gave us privacy in our backyard. We wanted to mention this to them because we understood that the people who lived there previously had complained about the hedge.
Introduction, communication and friendship would solve this problem.
kendi
01-03-2024, 10:01 AM
They no longer speak to you?…hmm, wonder why
That’s what caught my attention as well.
Albany
01-03-2024, 12:02 PM
I have a terrific hedge which all my neighbors get the privacy of. It is completely on my land and I take care of it. I don’t expect anyone else to do that. Yes I spray the weeds and I replace the mulch as needed. And I also keep it trimmed to about 6 feet. It’s my hedge and my responsibility. Yes neighbors behind and on both sides benefit. So what? It belongs to me.
Everyone should be talking to each other.
Arletti
01-03-2024, 12:22 PM
Don’t feel bad, there are five couples on my street that are like that!
Redsmom
01-03-2024, 10:05 PM
I have a terrific hedge which all my neighbors get the privacy of. It is completely on my land and I take care of it. I don’t expect anyone else to do that. Yes I spray the weeds and I replace the mulch as needed. And I also keep it trimmed to about 6 feet. It’s my hedge and my responsibility. Yes neighbors behind and on both sides benefit. So what? It belongs to me.
Everyone should be talking to each other.
Totally agree!
Why the sudden end to communication is unknown. I just speculate that it has to do with our not helping with the weeding. I can’t figure out what else it could be. The suggestion of delivering some cookies and requesting a discussion to clear the air is a good one. But just wanted to make sure I was not missing something obvious that I was failing to do.
Thanks all for your input.
Topspinmo
01-03-2024, 10:18 PM
Introduction, communication and friendship would solve this problem.
Yep, communication that I’m not going on your property to do your lawn work.
Kelevision
01-04-2024, 04:25 AM
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.
I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?
Since they no longer speak to us….. is when I stopped reading this post.
JGibson
01-04-2024, 07:41 AM
You could just put a note on their door explaining your concern.
To think everyone is going to get along with all their neighbors may be unrealistic unless your just the go along to get along type.
I've had a neighbor in a CYV who didn't want the person who I hired to pressure wash my side of the house which would include going into her yard.
She made a huge scene because she didn't like this individual personally.
Things were never going to be the same after that childish outburst.
Good news is she moved bad news is now it's a short term rental. lol.
Robnlaura
01-04-2024, 11:15 AM
The law is simple if it encroaches your property you can clip it back to their property line. What’s it their property is not your business what’s in yours is .. that’s Florida law
TeresaE
02-03-2024, 08:57 AM
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.
I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?
I find knocking on the door and saying hello, I’m your new neighbor is a good place to start. Then wind your way around to the discussion about the hedge. Maybe work together on the project. Nothing like bonding over physical labor.
Normal
02-03-2024, 09:22 AM
I think they may not understand what needs to be done. The ownership is on them to keep not just the side they see but what you see also. If I was the neighbor I would be embarrassed and jump right into clearing/cleaning things up. As others have posted, it could be a good thing to communicate directly and air things out. The ARC would definitely be a last resort.
graciegirl
02-03-2024, 09:55 AM
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..
I so agree, Bogie Shooter.
JGibson
02-04-2024, 08:09 AM
The law is simple if it encroaches your property you can clip it back to their property line. What’s it their property is not your business what’s in yours is .. that’s Florida law
I find it hard to believe you can start trimming neighbors hedges because they impeded your property.
Do you have some sources on this?
simplesimonsaid
02-04-2024, 09:20 AM
I find it hard to believe you can start trimming neighbors hedges because they impeded your property.
Do you have some sources on this?
A near standard rule anywhere, that you can trim to boundary line most anything overgrowing your property.
retiredguy123
02-04-2024, 10:27 AM
See Post No. 11. Communication is nice, but this issue doesn't require any communication. That is why there is a property line. Do whatever you want on your property and stay off of your neighbor's property.
JGibson
02-06-2024, 08:27 AM
A near standard rule anywhere, that you can trim to boundary line most anything overgrowing your property.
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.
I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.
Gpsma
02-06-2024, 08:39 AM
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.
I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.
Gallo v. Heller, 512 So.2d 215, 216 (Fla. 3d DCA 1987), which explained the common law rule:
“[A] possessor of land is not liable to persons outside the land for a nuisance resulting from trees and natural vegetation growing on the land. The adjoining property owner to such a nuisance, however, is privileged to trim back, at the adjoining owner's own expense, any encroaching tree roots or branches and other vegetation which has grown onto his property.”
thelegges
02-06-2024, 08:43 AM
So if hedge is growing over your property then the 3’ rule may not have been in ARC rules at the time. We had to slightly change landscape plans to accommodate 3’ beds from lot line for our ARC approval
Villagevip
02-06-2024, 11:35 AM
Seems the tall hedge is super close to your property... You benefit from the very nice privacy from their hedge...Hedge owner prolly does not feel comfortable going, stepping on your side to do maintenance... Show appreciation, and contribute maintenance on your side, IMHO...
Marathon Man
02-06-2024, 01:09 PM
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.
I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.
I find that a little strange.
JGibson
02-07-2024, 09:03 AM
I find that a little strange.
What's so strange?
Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.
I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.
Marathon Man
02-07-2024, 01:04 PM
What's so strange?
Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.
I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.
That is exactly why I find it strange. The District does not enforce law.
retiredguy123
02-07-2024, 01:13 PM
What's so strange?
Before I cut my neighbor's hedges that impeded my property I want to make sure I’m on legal ground.
I’m not looking to get arrested for cutting personal property and want to go about it in the proper manner.
Here is a summary of the Florida law pertaining to this topic, from this website: FE962/FE962: Handbook of Florida Fence and Property Law: Trees and Landowner Responsibility (https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/FE962)
SUMMARY
A landowner is not liable to the adjoining property owner for an alleged nuisance caused by overhanging branches and roots from a tree on his or her property; however, the adjoining property owner is legally entitled to trim back, at the adjoining owner's own expense and only up to the property line, any encroaching tree roots or branches and other vegetation that had grown onto his or her property. If the branches or roots are dead, or a dead tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the landowner of the property where the tree was originally located may be responsible. If a live tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the adjoining landowner is responsible for any damages.
Velvet
02-07-2024, 01:37 PM
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.
I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.
I doubt it. It’s standard in most areas that nothing can overhang your property unless it is a utility line etc. You show me in writing that it is otherwise with regards to shrubs.
retiredguy123
02-07-2024, 01:45 PM
I doubt it. It’s standard in most areas that nothing can overhang your property unless it is a utility line etc. You show me in writing that it is otherwise with regards to shrubs.
See Post No. 40
Velvet
02-07-2024, 03:11 PM
See Post No. 40
Makes sense. Thank you.
Babubhat
02-08-2024, 09:06 AM
Is there a height restriction on hedges?
JGibson
02-08-2024, 09:27 AM
Is there a height restriction on hedges?
Yes, no higher than the bottom of the window to my understanding.
JGibson
02-08-2024, 09:29 AM
Here is a summary of the Florida law pertaining to this topic, from this website: FE962/FE962: Handbook of Florida Fence and Property Law: Trees and Landowner Responsibility (https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/FE962)
SUMMARY
A landowner is not liable to the adjoining property owner for an alleged nuisance caused by overhanging branches and roots from a tree on his or her property; however, the adjoining property owner is legally entitled to trim back, at the adjoining owner's own expense and only up to the property line, any encroaching tree roots or branches and other vegetation that had grown onto his or her property. If the branches or roots are dead, or a dead tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the landowner of the property where the tree was originally located may be responsible. If a live tree falls onto the adjoining landowner's property, then the adjoining landowner is responsible for any damages.
I appreciate this although it's a handbook citing case law.
Readers may value this handbook because it informs them about these rights and responsibilities. However, the reader should be aware that because the laws, administrative rulings, and court decisions on which this handbook is based are subject to constant revision, portions of this handbook could become outdated at any time. This handbook should not be viewed as a comprehensive guide to fencing and property laws.
Whitley
02-08-2024, 10:21 AM
A way to handle it that may prevent any bad feelings, would be to ask if they know if the hedge/weeds are on their property or yours. You were thinking of spraying it but want to make sure it is your property.
A good diplomat is being able to tell someone to go to hell in a way that they look forward to the trip.
retiredguy123
02-08-2024, 10:21 AM
I appreciate this although it's a handbook citing case law.
Readers may value this handbook because it informs them about these rights and responsibilities. However, the reader should be aware that because the laws, administrative rulings, and court decisions on which this handbook is based are subject to constant revision, portions of this handbook could become outdated at any time. This handbook should not be viewed as a comprehensive guide to fencing and property laws.
True, but all laws are subject to revision. Even statutes are not permanent. They are sometimes overturned by case law. I think what you are seeking doesn't exist.
Normal
02-08-2024, 11:32 AM
EDJ are the initials for ElDiabloJoe, his TOTV site name
2016 was a presidential election which resulted in much divisiveness where many families stopped talking to each other, well documented.
Instead Of Losing Family And Friends Over Politics, Experts Say Communicate : NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/10/27/928209548/dude-i-m-done-when-politics-tears-families-and-friendships-apart)
Some may never mature. Taking sides and being over 60 doesn’t seem to add up, but then you see it. Honestly, they were the ones that were cliquey at 16 too. We have that even as the clowns in congress voting along party lines. All for not in my opinion. The flavors of humanity will never be removed, if they were, it would be quite boring.
coffeebean
02-09-2024, 01:32 PM
Again show me something in “writing” that says you can cut your neighbor's shrubbery if it impedes your property.
I would think you would need to file a complaint with the district before you pulled out the hedge cutters.
Wasn't the OP regarding unsightly weeds in the bed where the hedge sits? I don't think the hedge is impeding the property of the original poster. The issue is the weeds in the flower bed. No?
fdpaq0580
02-09-2024, 04:57 PM
Roundup? Why, no, I have never used Roundup. Why would you ask such a thimg? Oh, the empty bottle was left in my yard, so I just put it in with my trash. 😒
Pairadocs
02-09-2024, 04:58 PM
No protocol that I know of, and filing a complaint will probably make things worse. Personally I would not clear out the weeds, as you might become liable for damage if something happens to the hedge. Unfortunately this is their property and their responsibility.
Excellent reply, hope the poster considers what you wrote. Had SAME situation in our neighborhood. Fortunately it was between the NEXT home to our, and the one after that, the home behind facing another street. The high HIGH hedge type trees and the white rock below, were clearly in the yard of the 3rd home, but placed exactly on the lot line. The actual owners of the hedge/trees and rock DID expect those behind to control the weeds. It just all blew up into a very nasty, and completely insane, situation. I sometimes suspect, as in this case, some people begin to have some mental changes, though able to manage their lives, there are just strange changes. In this case, once average friendly people, became angry complete recluses ! ?
Topspinmo
02-09-2024, 05:07 PM
So if hedge is growing over your property then the 3’ rule may not have been in ARC rules at the time. We had to slightly change landscape plans to accommodate 3’ beds from lot line for our ARC approval
The hedges can be 3 foot or more away from property line and still protrude over property line. A jointing property owner can trim up to property line if you know exactly where the lines are. If have fence/wall that makes it easier.
Topspinmo
02-09-2024, 05:08 PM
Wasn't the OP regarding unsightly weeds in the bed where the hedge sits? I don't think the hedge is impeding the property of the original poster. The issue is the weeds in the flower bed. No?
Yes, but other questions rose and was answered.
Steban
02-18-2024, 05:38 AM
Plant foliage along the property line that obscures their weeds
DAVES
02-18-2024, 09:55 AM
The rear of my property backs up to a tall hedge. The hedge is all on the rear neighbor’s property. I get the impression (since they no longer speak to us!) that this neighbor expected me to weed from my side the weeds coming up in the white stone island surrounding this hedge. As all of this is on their property I don’t feel comfortable handling weeds especially since I use weed killer spray and I don’t want to spray on their property. Is there a standard protocol to handle this situation that I’m not aware of? Since the rear neighbor’s property is pie shaped, as they are on a cul-de-sac, this hedge bed manages to border on my property and my next-door neighbor’s property. My next-door neighbor does not weed her border area either.
I don’t want to be a bad neighbor, but wish that they had had an honest discussion with me and my husband once we moved in to clarify what they expected. It seems ridiculous to expect somebody to take care of your property without actually having a conversation about it. But again maybe there’s a protocol I am not aware of?
It sounds like the relationship is already bad. Sadly that can ruin your enjoyment of your home. We had that situation in our previous home in a different state.
The Villages has some truly skilled people at resolving these sort of issues. You may CHOOSE to contact them. There are some people that you can't get along with. Likely they were and are simply like that and are like that with everything.
Sadly, there are no perfect solutions. Moving is an option. Doing the weeding is another.
Far as damaging their hedge, you may want to research what the Villages policy is and send them a registered return receipt letter. From the original post they are aware of the issue. A registered return receipt documents that you have notified them. Damages, escalation, you have proof you notified them.
I'm not sure what I would do. Reporting neighbors can make all miserable. I expect if you look around your property you likely also have some issues
DAVES
02-18-2024, 10:09 AM
Some may never mature. Taking sides and being over 60 doesn’t seem to add up, but then you see it. Honestly, they were the ones that were cliquey at 16 too. We have that even as the clowns in congress voting along party lines. All for not in my opinion. The flavors of humanity will never be removed, if they were, it would be quite boring.
Mostly TRUE. I have a friend who bought a huge property in North Carolina with his brother. I've not heard from him in a while Last I heard they were building a water wheel on there stream to supply electricity for free.
Before moving to the villages I became aware of an island for sale. Several acres with a herd of wild horses. I thought I would set up my own Kingdom. HUM the Queen started a revolt.
Pluses and minuses. The Villages we choose to live in a congested environment.
If, you need something it is a short trip by golf cart or car. Life is the choices we make.
kkingston57
02-19-2024, 10:15 AM
Why was there no conversation when you moved in? What caused the lack of relation with your neighbor? Communications is a two way street.
Seems there may be more to this story……..
In all fairness to the writer, many people would not discuss this as the ? is what the writer can do on their own property and she had concerns about weeds and not the hedge
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