Ocala Mall Killer Arrested

[Dusty_Star]

"Albert Shell Jr., 39, was arrested by Ocala police officers with the help of the United States Marshals Service, specifically the Florida Caribbean Regional Fugitive Task Force, and the Marion County Sheriff's Office."

Ocala mall shooting suspect arrested, police say (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ocala-mall-shooting-suspect-arrested-police-say)

[Taltarzac725]

"Albert Shell Jr., 39, was arrested by Ocala police officers with the help of the United States Marshals Service, specifically the Florida Caribbean Regional Fugitive Task Force, and the Marion County Sheriff's Office."

Ocala mall shooting suspect arrested, police say (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ocala-mall-shooting-suspect-arrested-police-say)

That is good news.

[manaboutown]

Whew! They finally caught the thug!

[Dusty_Star]

That is good news.

Now, if they'd only lock him up, so that he can't hurt more people....

[Taltarzac725]

Now, if they'd only lock him up, so that he can't hurt more people....

They probably will. You never know though. Mentally ill? Mess up with processing? Etc.

[ThirdOfFive]

From the article:

"Balken said Shell had a lengthy criminal history and should have been behind bars.

"His criminal history alone tells me he should have never been on the streets to be able to commit this crime, and we are going to see to it that he spends the rest of his life behind bars," Balken said."

Catch and release. This happens far too often.

[kitnhead]

My sister-in-law is the manager at yankee candle. She heroically guided her staff, her customers and customers of other stores out a back hallway during the incident. She is also a villager.

[star20166@yahoo.com]

"Albert Shell Jr., 39, was arrested by Ocala police officers with the help of the United States Marshals Service, specifically the Florida Caribbean Regional Fugitive Task Force, and the Marion County Sheriff's Office."

Ocala mall shooting suspect arrested, police say (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ocala-mall-shooting-suspect-arrested-police-say)

Imagine the economic terror the killer brought on all the small retailers at Paddock Mall which was shut down on the busiest shopping day of the year.

[Regorp]

"Albert Shell Jr., 39, was arrested by Ocala police officers with the help of the United States Marshals Service, specifically the Florida Caribbean Regional Fugitive Task Force, and the Marion County Sheriff's Office."

Ocala mall shooting suspect arrested, police say (https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/ocala-mall-shooting-suspect-arrested-police-say)

We were there a few days before the crime. Glad he was caught. Nice to live in a state that is not a "catch and release" one.

[Greatlawn]

I see the US Marshall’s Caribbean Fugitive task force was involved. Maybe he was on the lam from one of the island nations down there

[Taltarzac725]

I recall an AZ case when I was a law student at Brigham Young University in 1982 where a case was thrown out because the charging documents on a person involved with hiring a man to kill their spouse had the wrong county designated. Pinal County, Arizona - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinal_County,_Arizona) Pinal not Pima. Or, maybe the other way around. Pima County, Arizona - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pima_County,_Arizona)

I decided law school was not for me plus I was in a dorm in which my roommate was a recent Mormon convert and seemed to have made me his next mission. I was there partially on a Scholarship that allowed me to pay the same rate as the Mormons. But I was very intrigued by the law library even if it was very hard to find anything.

The roommate was from Puerto Rico and studying dance.

And I had two single undergraduate women from a different dorm who seemed to already be planning a wedding. BYU had male and female dorms or wings. Do not remember. But a common dining area.

[cjrjck]

I see the US Marshall’s Caribbean Fugitive task force was involved. Maybe he was on the lam from one of the island nations down there

That's just what the Regional Task Force is named (Florida Caribbean Regional Fugitive Task Force). It doesn't necessarily mean that this case has anything to do with the Caribbean. The Task Force apparently covers Florida and the Caribbean.

[Taltarzac725]

Oh stop. The federal government has absolutely nothing to do with local crime. Just an easy political target for you. The crime rate, and you can look up FBI crime data if you care to, is well within its recent range. And it is much lower than a few decades ago. But the media tells you about every single crime. And some media loves to show you video which never existed before. Perception is not reality.

Most people think the U.S. crime rate is rising. They'''re wrong. (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/people-think-crime-rate-up-actually-down-rcna129585)

https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/quarterly

Look at the real data, not the nightly news or the everybody needs 10 guns network. Look at the charts for violent and property crime since 1985 to 2022

And not shown in those charts is the 2023 data which through the 3rd quarter show an additional drop of 8% in violent crime over 2022 and 6.3% in property crime.

What is up however is hate crime. I wonder what that is about or how that has been stirred up.

It seems the crime rate was down across the US except in some major cities where it was up by quite a bit.

One of the major stations did a report on crime stats for the year 2023. I do think San Francisco was one where it was way up.

The data is rather incomplete though. The FBI released its annual national crime stats. The data is horribly incomplete | US news | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/22/us-crime-stats-warning-experts-fbi)

[blueash]

We were there a few days before the crime. Glad he was caught. Nice to live in a state that is not a "catch and release" one.

What! You do realize that a part of the outrage over this crime is that the shooter has a very long criminal record. And all of his crimes were committed AFAIK in the state of Florida, with 145 contacts with police in Ocala over many years. How do you reconcile your statement with the truth? He was caught and released or sometimes charges were dropped or warrants never executed in Florida over and over.

But once again, the perception of a person has nothing to do with reality.

[MrChip72]

Why is it that every one of these major arrests it seems like the suspect has outstanding warrants from previous crimes? Shouldn't the police finish following up on every single one of these warrants as a priority before they go back to setting up speed traps on tourists?

[blueash]

It did look like the crime rate was down across the US except in some major cities where it was up by quite a bit.

One of the major stations did a report on crime stats for the year 2023. I do think San Francisco was one where it was way up.



Well, perhaps rather than just stating it was "up quite a bit" in some major cities, you could present evidence. And show us that it was up in several major cities not forgetting to also look to see if it was down in several major cities. I provided a link where you can look at data including crime data by size of the community. And in cities of over a million... In 2023.. Crime was down both violent and property.

As to your belief that it was way up in San Francisco. Sorry, once again the media has deluded you and perception is not reality. San Francisco data is very available HERE (https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rate-and-property-crime-rate). It shows that crime is down in 2023 with property crimes like shoplifting having peaked in 2017. The 2023 rate of theft is the lowest since 2012.

[dougjb]

What is a crime is our propensity to turn on the television and watch opinions cloaked as news. Then we take the 15 seconds of atrocious behavior they film and think that is it happening in our neighborhood or that it is happening right next door.

We would all be a lot more mentally balanced if we just turned off the television and viewed life through our own two eyes. Simply put, we have never, ever had it as good as it is now!

Of course, if you want to wring your knickers into a knot, then continue to watch the news. I bet you can come to the conclusion that you can never reach Orlando without being mugged, beaten, raped and murdered (or all of these) by a band of vicious transvestite cross dresser imigrants.

Do yourself a favor! Go watch the sunset with a nice glass of cold water or wine! Remind yourself, you never had it this good!

[Taltarzac725]

What is a crime is our propensity to turn on the television and watch opinions cloaked as news. Then we take the 15 seconds of atrocious behavior they film and think that is it happening in our neighborhood or that it is happening right next door.

We would all be a lot more mentally balanced if we just turned off the television and viewed life through our own two eyes. Simply put, we have never, ever had it as good as it is now!

Of course, if you want to wring your knickers into a knot, then continue to watch the news. I bet you can come to the conclusion that you can never reach Orlando without being mugged, beaten, raped and murdered (or all of these) by a band of vicious transvestite cross dresser imigrants.

Do yourself a favor! Go watch the sunset with a nice glass of cold water or wine! Remind yourself, you never had it this good!

Actually they often have very little to report on. I mean ABC, NBC and CBS. I love the segments on CBS often on Fridays about people's kindness to one another. CBS Evening News - On The Road - CBS News (https://www.cbsnews.com/evening-news/on-the-road/)

[spd2918]

Well, perhaps rather than just stating it was "up quite a bit" in some major cities, you could present evidence.

Up a bit or down a bit is not the issue, but rather the amount of crime. Compare urban areas to rural areas.

California is an interesting place. Many property crimes are no longer investigated so victims stop reporting them. In doing so it appears that those crimes have decreased when in fact they have gone up. And it's hard to steal from a shop that closed due to high theft rates.

[Dusty_Star]

Up a bit or down a bit is not the issue, but rather the amount of crime. Compare urban areas to rural areas.

California is an interesting place. Many property crimes are no longer investigated so victims stop reporting them. In doing so it appears that those crimes have decreased when in fact they have gone up. And it's hard to steal from a shop that closed due to high theft rates.

You've got it!

[Erider]

Well, perhaps rather than just stating it was "up quite a bit" in some major cities, you could present evidence. And show us that it was up in several major cities not forgetting to also look to see if it was down in several major cities. I provided a link where you can look at data including crime data by size of the community. And in cities of over a million... In 2023.. Crime was down both violent and property.

As to your belief that it was way up in San Francisco. Sorry, once again the media has deluded you and perception is not reality. San Francisco data is very available HERE (https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rate-and-property-crime-rate). It shows that crime is down in 2023 with property crimes like shoplifting having peaked in 2017. The 2023 rate of theft is the lowest since 2012.

LOL. Yeah, things are just rosy in SF. When you have two successive DAs that plead felonies down to misdemeanors and don't prosecute misdemeanors, your crime rate magically goes down. Yippee for bogus stats. Things are so good in SF the voters recalled the last DA, Walgreens shut down dozens of stores, and they have human excrement adorning the sidewalks.

[collie1228]

Say what you want about Florida, but one thing you can be sure of, in Marion County you won't find any "prosecutors" like Fani Willis, George Gascón, Chesa Boudin, or Kimberly Fox. This guy will get what's coming to him in Marion County. Jail time.

[MrChip72]

Say what you want about Florida, but one thing you can be sure of, in Marion County you won't find any "prosecutors" like Fani Willis, George Gascón, Chesa Boudin, or Kimberly Fox. This guy will get what's coming to him in Marion County. Jail time.

The guy has been arrested over a dozen times already and he was walking free on an unserved warrant. I don't think that's a sign that the Marion County prosecutor and police have done much of a good job at all.