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Karadad
01-23-2024, 10:42 PM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

justjim
01-23-2024, 10:55 PM
Bonita terrible greens

MSchad
01-24-2024, 04:37 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *
You do realize the “developers” have no control over executive courses once they are turned over to the districts? Developer, not caretaker.

Laker14
01-24-2024, 05:27 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

In the winter the greens get played on from 30 minutes after sunrise to sunset, solid, constant play, by people who can't be bothered to bend over and fix a punch mark. On top of that, during the cold weather, the grass has no healing capacity at all. It's basically dormant.

Better conditions under such circumstances?
Ain't gonna happen.

dewilson58
01-24-2024, 06:05 AM
Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!



:ohdear::ohdear::ohdear:

Marathon Man
01-24-2024, 07:51 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

Because 'The Developer' reads TOTV looking for complaints?

Have you considered attending the next meeting of your CDD board and stepping up to the podium? That may actually have an impact.

MrChip72
01-24-2024, 05:39 PM
Because 'The Developer' reads TOTV looking for complaints?

It definitely seems like some people on here have the impression that Mark Morse is spending time everyday checking what people on TOTV are saying. :a20:

Mleeja
01-24-2024, 06:58 PM
Because 'The Developer' reads TOTV looking for complaints?

Have you considered attending the next meeting of your CDD board and stepping up to the podium? That may actually have an impact.

I agree with your comment 100%. However, it is the AAC which oversees the executive courses.

Rating the executive course greens on this website is a waste of time. Unless! The poster thinks by complaining about the greens at a particular course will cause people not to play there, and then they will have more tee time’s available at that course. If that works, the greens at Saddlebrook are REALLY bad! :laugh::laugh::pepper2:

guitarguy
01-24-2024, 08:03 PM
1) As said earlier, the developer does not own the executive courses.
2) The greens are Bermuda grass, it goes dormant in cold weather. Bermuda recovers from wear very slowly in cool temperatures.
3) As said earlier, the courses are in constant play with some players scuffing their feet and not fixing ball marks.

terryf484
01-25-2024, 08:02 AM
1) As said earlier, the developer does not own the executive courses.
2) The greens are Bermuda grass, it goes dormant in cold weather. Bermuda recovers from wear very slowly in cool temperatures.
3) As said earlier, the courses are in constant play with some players scuffing their feet and not fixing ball marks.

That is not the problem at Bonita Pass, all of the greens have have only small patches of grass. The course needs to be closed and all greens reseeded. Terrible condition.

Crookedbreeze
01-25-2024, 02:11 PM
As part of new priority, now paying extra for the executive courses, hope they put the money where it should be meant for.

Bogie Shooter
01-25-2024, 02:29 PM
I agree with your comment 100%. However, it is the AAC which oversees the executive courses.

Rating the executive course greens on this website is a waste of time. Unless! The poster thinks by complaining about the greens at a particular course will cause people not to play there, and then they will have more tee time’s available at that course. If that works, the greens at Saddlebrook are REALLY bad! :laugh::laugh::pepper2:

AAC only north of CR 466.

michgary
01-25-2024, 02:49 PM
we played the exec. clipper in Dec,,, the greens were big and very nice ,,, the friend who plays well over 50 rounds a year in Mich was very impressed.

Topspinmo
01-25-2024, 03:36 PM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

So you missed putt, the sun will still come tomorrow.

Scbang
01-26-2024, 04:04 PM
All comments are valid but still do not explain why some EXEC courses still have reasonably puttable green.

Cheers!

PhilR
01-27-2024, 10:43 AM
I belonged to a private club in DE prior to coming to TV
My bill each month approached 4 figures factoring in cart rental etc

Come November, temporary greens and tee boxes would spring up intermittently as repairs and renovations occurred.

So, on those “good” weather days (50-55, wind and likely overcast) I would don pants turtleneck sweater and beanie, throw some hot hands in my pockets and suffer less than ideal conditions.

I liken these execs to a public course, the layouts are mostly great and the conditions are to be expected, given the high volume of play. And 50 degree weather is a day of rest as opposed to a rare opportunity to play.

cbvette
01-27-2024, 10:59 AM
Tarpon Boil •

Mleeja
01-27-2024, 02:22 PM
AAC only north of CR 466.

Correct, and PWAC everywhere else. Point remains the same. The CDDs are not responsible for the executive golf courses.

mrf0151
01-27-2024, 03:14 PM
What is good this week/month may not be next. Conditions change all the time all over TV.
"Survey Says"!!???

TomSpasm
01-27-2024, 04:01 PM
Mira Mesa ***

justjim
01-28-2024, 12:59 PM
Played Okeechobee Friday. Will give the greens **. Unfortunately, I fixed at least three bad ball marks each hole. @&”@$&*# There are golfers playing here that just don’t know any better and some that just don’t give a damn. Sad.

UpNorth
01-28-2024, 01:35 PM
Played Okeechobee Friday. Will give the greens **. Unfortunately, I fixed at least three bad ball marks each hole. @&”@$&*# There are golfers playing here that just don’t know any better and some that just don’t give a damn. Sad.

Most of the bad executive greens I've come across this winter have nothing to do with the players.

ThirdOfFive
01-28-2024, 02:36 PM
Always a bit of subjectivity in discussions such as this: what one person might see as acceptable might be met with vehement disagreement by another person. However what cannot be disputed is the disparity of green quality, course to course. Case in point: we played El Diablo a couple of days back and the greens were atrocious. Weeds sprouting up, bare spots--you name it. We played El Santiago this morning and the greens were in excellent condition! Two courses adjoining one another; same type of ground, roughly the same number of players, most likely even the same groundskeepers--but the disparity in quality between the greens of the two courses is remarkable.

I have a hard time understanding that.

PJOHNS2654
01-28-2024, 08:17 PM
Red Fish Run

Awful *

tophcfa
01-28-2024, 08:18 PM
Silver Lake, ***, good for an Executive

UpNorth
01-29-2024, 09:43 AM
*Bonita Pass, Redfish Run, Tarpon Boil * The fungus trio.*

kareneluck
02-02-2024, 08:48 AM
sure some of them are not very good but where else do you golf basically for free. Go off site and pay. Some of those courses are in great shape and not that expensive. No big deal. Get over it

Gator_Girl
02-02-2024, 09:14 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

So skip it next time in your rotation! It won't kill you if you play on a course that's not in great shape, you should watch the carts driving all over the course without handicap tags, just lazy a$$e$ who refuse to walk further than 10 feet.

tophcfa
02-02-2024, 10:59 PM
The greens at Churchill Greens were excellent today by Executive course standards. I’ve played much worse on Championship courses over the years. The renovations payed dividends.

DonaldL
02-14-2024, 11:50 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *
Agree about Bonita Pass. Worst greens I have experienced in The Villages in over 20 years (4 times per week). Interspersed grass and dirt/sand make putted balls go hoppity hop. Strongly suggest not playing here if you want to play golf. Only play if all you want to do is chat.

Papa_lecki
02-14-2024, 03:41 PM
If i had the energy, I would create an app, to rate the executive and championships, and take an average over the last 7 days.

ThirdOfFive
02-14-2024, 03:48 PM
Well, considering that most of the "greens" (as well as the rest of the courses) in the neck of the woods where I hail from are bunghole-deep in snow, the greens around here aren't bad at all.

Its all relative.

Karadad
02-17-2024, 11:16 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

Oakleigh very good on 02/16!

LarryL
02-17-2024, 12:26 PM
Bonita Pass *

Seymour Butts
02-17-2024, 01:41 PM
The problem starts with the outsourcing of the maintenance and the overall upkeep of the greens etc bunkers fairways. Hiring a lawn care service is one of the worst decisions The Villages or districts can do. Down to Earth is one of the worst they try but they are a lawn company, not a golf course mtc crew. Just look at the conditions of the greens south of 44A, you can not spray a weed killer on the green and expect to grow grass. Time to hire a company that knows what they’re doing.

Painting the greens green doesn't grow grass….

QUOTE=Karadad;2294033]Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *[/QUOTE]

Karadad
02-22-2024, 10:56 PM
[QUOTE=Karadad;2294033]Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

02/22/2024 Pelican *

It is a shame, Pelican is one of the most "interesting" courses.

Normal
02-23-2024, 02:39 AM
Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

Bonita Pass *

-* Volusia

Two Bills
02-23-2024, 05:23 AM
Golf officials blame El Niño for ‘challenges’ at executive courses in The Villages. :shrug:

Headline on 'other' site.

Bay Kid
02-23-2024, 01:53 PM
[QUOTE=Karadad;2294033]Some of exec. greens are disgusting!
How about rating them here. Maybe the developers will gets enough complaints and do something!!!

*** good
** fair
* terrible

02/22/2024 Pelican *

It is a shame, Pelican is one of the most "interesting" courses.

It is a shame. I love the course but for years it hasn't been well maintained.