Water for pool

[Denverdame]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.

[photo1902]

Spigots (hose bibs) are potable. Yes, that’s how you fill pools

[villagetinker]

Back up north, we would call the local fire department and for a donation, they would fill the pool, these were typically volunteer fire departments, and they used the pool filling to practice using some of the equipment on the trucks. I do not think they do this here at all, so you will get to spend $$$ and many hours to fill you pool.

[Papa_lecki]

Pretty sure pool company brings a truck in and fills pool.

[CarlR33]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info. The pool install company did not have any advice (no offense)? Not sure about the villages but some municipalities charge a sewer charge per gallon of water used which could be double the water charge. So as others have said it maybe cheaper for a company to fill it so you may have to do some cost research based on the gallons needed.

[photo1902]

Back up north, we would call the local fire department and for a donation, they would fill the pool, these were typically volunteer fire departments, and they used the pool filling to practice using some of the equipment on the trucks. I do not think they do this here at all, so you will get to spend $$$ and many hours to fill you pool.

They won't do that here, nor should they. Not to mention the fact that water from a hydrant isn't "free", so why would a homeowner get a free pool fill?

Regarding the cost, nowadays people spend $100k plus on a pool. Hardly will anyone balk at spending another $200-$300 for a one time fill.

I've not heard of anyone here getting pool water delivered by tanker, only by garden hose. I know that's what we did as it was the most cost effective way. Fill time for 15k gallons was about 16 hours, give or take

[retiredguy123]

Note that you only pay for the first 10,000 gallons of the wastewater fee per month. After that, there is no wastewater charge.

[retiredguy123]

Call up a snowbird neighbor and ask them if you can use their outside spigot, but don't tell them you are filling your pool. (just kidding)

[tophcfa]

You use the hose to fill your pool. I would highly recommend getting a filter that screws into your hose, it’s relatively inexpensive and can only help. It costed us approximately $45 more on our monthly bill to fill our 12X24 pool that is 3 1/2 to 5 1/2 feet deep. Enjoy your pool : )

[asianthree]

We were given the option of a trunk fill or outside hose. 12-18’ wide 28’ length 3.5 to 5.5 deep. Took 23.6 hours with standard hose. Water was only cloudy when brush down side from acid wash, then cleared within an hour.

Hope this summer is as hot as last year, can’t wait to kick in the chiller:cold:

[tophcfa]

We were given the option of a trunk fill or outside hose. 12-18’ wide 28’ length 3.5 to 5.5 deep. Took 23.6 hours with standard hose. Water was only cloudy when brush down side from acid wash, then cleared within an hour.

Hope this summer is as hot as last year, can’t wait to kick in the chiller:cold:

I just had to turn down our solar, the pool water got to 94 degrees on this beautiful Sunny 80 degree January afternoon.

[asianthree]

I just had to turn down our solar, the pool water got to 94 degrees on this beautiful Sunny 80 degree January afternoon.

I hate swimming regional pools even in the winter it’s too hot. Only saving grace its 40 getting out. So do you run your chiller in the winter to cool down?

[tophcfa]

I hate swimming regional pools even in the winter it’s too hot. Only saving grace its 40 getting out. So do you run your chiller in the winter to cool down?

A cold beer or a tropical smoothie does the trick for me. Never heard of a chiller?

[asianthree]

A cold beer or a tropical smoothie does the trick for me. Never heard of a chiller?

New systems have heat and chiller. Usually used in commercial pools, but now available for residential. I can set the chiller temp to cool down pool the same as heating to whatever temp.

TV discussion on adding chillers to pools didn’t go far due to cost

[BigDawgInLakeDenham]

New systems have heat and chiller. Usually used in commercial pools, but now available for residential. I can set the chiller temp to cool down pool the same as heating to whatever temp.

TV discussion on adding chillers to pools didn’t go far due to cost

Is the solar heater really necessary in TV? I really don't want that on my roof. We will get a gas heater for spa/pool. Meeting with T&D next week in our yard for S&G's. Thanks for your input!

[asianthree]

Is the solar heater really necessary in TV? I really don't want that on my roof. We will get a gas heater for spa/pool. Meeting with T&D next week in our yard for S&G's. Thanks for your input!

There are some who don’t recommend gas heaters. We choose electric over gas, and are not adding solar until our roof would need replacing.

We met with 3 companies and didn’t go with T&D.

[BigDawgInLakeDenham]

There are some who don’t recommend gas heaters. We choose electric over gas, and are not adding solar until our roof would need replacing.

We met with 3 companies and didn’t go with T&D.
Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol

[Bogie Shooter]

They won't do that here, nor should they. Not to mention the fact that water from a hydrant isn't "free", so why would a homeowner get a free pool fill?

Regarding the cost, nowadays people spend $100k plus on a pool. Hardly will anyone balk at spending another $200-$300 for a one time fill.

I've not heard of anyone here getting pool water delivered by tanker, only by garden hose. I know that's what we did as it was the most cost effective way. Fill time for 15k gallons was about 16 hours, give or take
I agree. That’s how we filled ours.

[Bogie Shooter]

Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol

My solar has a temperature control.

[tophcfa]

Is the solar heater really necessary in TV? I really don't want that on my roof. We will get a gas heater for spa/pool. Meeting with T&D next week in our yard for S&G's. Thanks for your input!

Gas is not an option where we live. Our friends have gas and it heats the water very quickly, but costs $$$. We have solar, a heat pump, and a cover. Between the three, we can use the pool during the coldest months no problem. The heat pump is slow, but works fine and doesn’t cost much to run. The key is keeping the pool covered when not in use to retain the heat. The solar is great during the shoulder seasons. Don’t use T and D for solar, use Jacks Solar.

[HoosierPa]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.

We built a pool in Marsh Bend and had to fill it with hose bib water.

[asianthree]

The pool install company did not have any advice (no offense)? Not sure about the villages but some municipalities charge a sewer charge per gallon of water used which could be double the water charge. So as others have said it maybe cheaper for a company to fill it so you may have to do some cost research based on the gallons needed.

For those who have a pool it’s definitely NOT cheaper in TV to truck in water. Lowest quote $500.

Our water bill from garden hose was $128 give or take a few dollars deducting the normal inside water use.

[asianthree]

Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol

New heat pumps have ability to heat your pool and ours has chiller ability. So yes we can bring temp to any desired temp in the summer with the Chiller mode.

We were very happy to have gas available, but choose not to. While it does heat quickly, the cost for natural gas in TV, along with the fees is high in TV compared to our northern homes.

T&D should be able to give you a cost comparison on gas. Definitely ask them for adding the unit that has chiller capabilities.

[Annie66]

Some locales will not charge you sewer tax for filling a pool. You simply fill out a form and submit it to the local authorities. Depending on where you live, check with your tax office.

[lynnbarnes]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.

I have a pool put in last year and they filled it with my hose. Your hose water I'd the same as you in-house water; it is not irrigation water. I have a whole house water softener so I had to turn that off while filling the pool as not to over work it. It took about a day to fill and was about 13,000 gallons. The pool company gave me a letter indicating the exact gallons and that it was used to fill the pool and I gave it to the water company but they did not give me credit on my sewage. It cost me about $100 more on my water bill that month which was much better then I was expecting.

[PoolBrews]

Back up north, we would call the local fire department and for a donation, they would fill the pool, these were typically volunteer fire departments, and they used the pool filling to practice using some of the equipment on the trucks. I do not think they do this here at all, so you will get to spend $$$ and many hours to fill you pool.

Most pools down here are fairly small. Mine is 7,000 gallons. Using two hoses, I was able to fill it in less than two days, and the total cost was way under $100 - closer to $50. Up north they charged me $150 to fill it from our local hydrant. Faster yes, but two days is not a big deal to fill the pool, and this is generally a one time thing.

[GolfGirl122]

Usually, the pool is filled with a hose from your house. Takes about 24 hours. Take pictures because hopefully, you’ll never see it empty again. Things sit for a while, then the salt goes in - if salt water pool. Your water bill will also include the sewer charge for the water used. Oh well. Enjoy the pool - you’ll love it!
Also, check out the website Trouble Free Pool - lots of useful information.

[GolfGirl122]

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[wawriwwawriw]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.
No way to use non potable water. After all, once in the Pool, this water will be in contact with your eyes, mouth, and more. It is not 100% bacteria and other water pollutants free! I would call your water supplier and ask them if they have a special rate for filling out your Pool. Normally is cheaper the water for the house (despite you are using same source and hose from your house) they just charge you a different fee base in Pool estimate water capacity. Not all suppliers offer this.

[Wivillager]

You fill the pool with your hose.....but you have to call the municipalities and notify them what you are doing as then they will charge you a much lower rate than your normal water bill.

[Proveone]

I have a question about filling our pool....We live in Marsh Bend and are putting a pool in. Can we fill the pool from the hose or would this be non potable water? Thanks in advance for info.
The only source for your pool is water from your hose.

[Bogie Shooter]

You fill the pool with your hose.....but you have to call the municipalities and notify them what you are doing as then they will charge you a much lower rate than your normal water bill.

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[tophcfa]

Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol

Don’t be scared of overheating with solar. I had the pool covered and the solar temperature set at 96 and it did what it’s supposed to do. You can set the controls to not run the solar above any maximum temperature you desire. Ours is set so when the solar gets to 6 degrees above the pool water the valve opens up to the solar system and the pump speed increases to push the water through the system. I had the max solar set at 96 with the pool covered before the heat wave because it was relatively cold and cloudy. When it warms up and is sunny up I set the max solar to 86 and keep the pool uncovered. During the summer I turn the solar off, but run it periodically just to flush chlorinated water through the system. I wouldn’t put solar on an older roof, the systems are typically warrantied for 12 years, but wouldn’t hesitate to put it on a new roof. Jacks solar is significantly less expensive that T& D and they use a higher quality solar panel and attachment system.

Just to give you an idea of how a heat pump, pool cover, and solar work. When we got to our Villages home in early January our pool was uncovered, the heater was off, the solar was set at 80, and the pool water was 66. At about 10 PM I covered the pool, turned on the heat pump, and turned up the solar to 96. Two evenings later the pool was at 91 and we were swimming. As loneg as I kept the pool covered when not using it, the solar maintained the heat after that except on cold cloudy days when I had to run the heat pump for a few hours per day. We use the pool every night, even when it was in the 40’s with steam coming off the 91 - 93 degree water. I only had to turn the solar down yesterday when it got to 80 degrees outside and was sunny. Hope that helps.

[ron32162]

Unless your building the pool yourself the builder takes care of that you don't have to fill your pool.

[Glorantha]

We had a couple of tiles come up a year after install. T&D responded promptly, drained pool, made repairs, refilled pool. Water costs for medium sized pool was <$100, which was fully covered by T&D. VERY pleased with T&D.

[LeRoySmith]

Regarding the cost, nowadays people spend $100k plus on a pool.

I'm afraid they are a little more than that now. We start construction in a few weeks and our best estimate was 150k, the highest was 185....

[thelegges]

Unless your building the pool yourself the builder takes care of that you don't have to fill your pool.

None of the three companies filled the water. Only one offered name of water delivery, other two said use hose.

[Nana2Teddy]

We were given the option of a trunk fill or outside hose. 12-18’ wide 28’ length 3.5 to 5.5 deep. Took 23.6 hours with standard hose. Water was only cloudy when brush down side from acid wash, then cleared within an hour.

Hope this summer is as hot as last year, can’t wait to kick in the chiller:cold:
We found out last summer the Villages pools are unusable in summer due to having no chillers. 95° water temp is not refreshing on a hot day. It was our first summer, and a huge disappointment. Wish now we’d bought a pool sized lot.

[Just jimmy]

Thank you! We will eventually look beyond T&D but want their input to start. I'm well versed in building pools in the Mid-Atlantic but no experience in the Sunshine State. I will be in heaven now that I can access natural gas piped into my heaters if I want to. My concern with solar is overhead and overheating. Don't want all that on my roof materials and mostly don't want to overheat the pool. To me about 86 is getting too warm in the pool and the gentleman said solar had his pool up in the 90's.....scared me lol. Solar heat is run with a thermostat just like a regular heater. You set it how high you want it. Never an issue

[Wawruck]

You can fill the pool with a hose from the house. We did when our pool was put in. We used Fiesta pools and we have been very satisfied with the results

[asianthree]

I'm afraid they are a little more than that now. We start construction in a few weeks and our best estimate was 150k, the highest was 185....

We put in a small pool with waterfall 28’ length 12’ width at steps 18’ width at deep end. Depth 3.5 to 5.5. Salt water System has normal heater and chiller for water cool down in summer, WiFi connection. Pool total was $81,750. 2,000sf bird cage $25,000. Then again it’s a small pool.

[jarodrig]

They won't do that here, nor should they. Not to mention the fact that water from a hydrant isn't "free", so why would a homeowner get a free pool fill?

Regarding the cost, nowadays people spend $100k plus on a pool. Hardly will anyone balk at spending another $200-$300 for a one time fill.

I've not heard of anyone here getting pool water delivered by tanker, only by garden hose. I know that's what we did as it was the most cost effective way. Fill time for 15k gallons was about 16 hours, give or take

“Up North “ where we lived , it was common practice to do what Village Tinker suggested.

However , the fire department would put a meter in line and you would be required to pay for the water used from the hydrant.

Right or wrong, I don’t know . But I do know you can quickly fill a pool using the hydrant.

My pool was 16x35 …. ;)

[photo1902]

“Up North “ where we lived , it was common practice to do what Village Tinker suggested.

However , the fire department would put a meter in line and you would be required to pay for the water used from the hydrant.

Right or wrong, I don’t know . But I do know you can quickly fill a pool using the hydrant.

My pool was 16x35 …. ;)

The OP asked how pools are filled here. We’re not up north.

Use the hose

[photo1902]

I'm afraid they are a little more than that now. We start construction in a few weeks and our best estimate was 150k, the highest was 185....

Which is the reason I said $100k plus.

[Stu from NYC]

The OP asked how pools are filled here. We’re not up north.

Use the hose

Wonder if I could borrow my neighbors.:laugh:

[Jeremy#1]

The pool install company did not have any advice (no offense)? Not sure about the villages but some municipalities charge a sewer charge per gallon of water used which could be double the water charge. So as others have said it maybe cheaper for a company to fill it so you may have to do some cost research based on the gallons needed.

Should notify utility and sewer charge should be adjusted as the water did not go thru sewer lines similar if an underground leak had occurred.

[jarodrig]

The OP asked how pools are filled here. We’re not up north.

Use the hose

We’re “up north” of Miami ! LOL ;)

[JeffJane]

If you call the villages utilities prior to filling your pool they don't charge the sanitation fee.
At least they didn't in 2017.

[Bill14564]

Some locales will not charge you sewer tax for filling a pool. You simply fill out a form and submit it to the local authorities. Depending on where you live, check with your tax office.

...The pool company gave me a letter indicating the exact gallons and that it was used to fill the pool and I gave it to the water company but they did not give me credit on my sewage. It cost me about $100 more on my water bill that month which was much better then I was expecting.

You fill the pool with your hose.....but you have to call the municipalities and notify them what you are doing as then they will charge you a much lower rate than your normal water bill.

Should notify utility and sewer charge should be adjusted as the water did not go thru sewer lines similar if an underground leak had occurred.

If you call the villages utilities prior to filling your pool they don't charge the sanitation fee.
At least they didn't in 2017.

From districtgov.org -> Departments -> Utilities -> Department FAQ (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Utilities/utilities-faq.pdf)

If I have a pool or hot tub is there a re-filling discount on my water and sewer charges?
Each homeowner is responsible for paying for all water consumption that passes through the meter. Discounts are not offered on filling or refilling pools/hot tubs.

[photo1902]

Wonder if I could borrow my neighbors.:laugh:

Only at night ;)