Employment in The Villages

[Jeffk1023]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

[BrianL99]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.


Why do they owe you an "explanation"?

You want a job, they don't want to give you one. End of story.

[1957TBird]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

If you don't mind me asking, what jobs are you applying for?

[Marathon Man]

You got an explanation. You are not a good fit.

[Papa_lecki]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

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[ThirdOfFive]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
I'm not sure any applicant is owed an explanation that goes into any more detail than that. It all depends on what is being applied for.

What the OP MIGHT want to do is to take the bull by the horns, so to speak, and apply in person at places that need help. Very few businesses in and around TV are NOT looking for workers. The Villages HR Dept. supplies (I assume) workers only for positions that are directly related to TV--gate guards, Community Watch and the like. But (again, assuming) there are vastly more opportunities in and around TV than there are positions working FOR TV.

[vintageogauge]

You got an explanation. You are not a good fit.

And if they give you the true reason they may be opening themselves to legal action. Not a good fit is a great generic reason. Also, there are lots of jobs outside of TV that will pay more and also have flexible hours.

[MrFlorida]

Its obvious there is something in your application they don't like, so move on, lots of jobs outside the Villages.

[Topspinmo]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

In any company or business to walk into high level positions you have to be related or referred under the table. Otherwise you have to start at bottom and be proven loyal yes person if you want a do nothing job.

[mrf0151]

They can tell a lot in your credit report. Poor score=unreliable.

[My Daily Run]

Did you apply to the VCDD or with the developer..."The Villages" but which one...The VCDD is the Community Development District and Careers in The Villages is the developer...please be more specific

[Jeffk1023]

If you don't mind me asking, what jobs are you applying for?

Caretaker and trolley driver

[Jeffk1023]

Did you apply to the VCDD or with the developer..."The Villages" but which one...The VCDD is the Community Development District and Careers in The Villages is the developer...please be more specific

Developer, wanting caretaker and trolley job

[asianthree]

Developer, wanting caretaker and trolley job

Advice I would drop it, if the staff feels you are basically stalking, harassment them there isn’t any good will come to you. No business owe you an explanation other than what was explained. Their reasoning will not get any attention from an attorney. Much less a job offer

[photo1902]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

With all due respect, they owe you nothing.

[manaboutown]

I would not continue to seek work from an outfit that did not want me nor would I pursue an answer as to why not.

Over the years in various capacities I interviewed many job seekers. Those turned down never got a "why". Nor did I when I was turned down. It boils down to not being a good fit for one or more reasons. Companies have cultures and seek job candidates who they believe will be a good fit.

[Keefelane66]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
More likely one or more of your references may not have helped or background check or social media posts.

[margaretmattson]

More likely one or more of your references may not have helped or background check or social media posts.Sometimes it is something simple like the amount of hours you are seeking or your availability. Businesses do not work around an employee's preferences. They also will not hire full time when part timers suit their needs.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

The Villages does not owe you an explanation. Look for something outside the Villages, if you don’t get something there, you have an issue.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I'm not sure any applicant is owed an explanation that goes into any more detail than that. It all depends on what is being applied for.

What the OP MIGHT want to do is to take the bull by the horns, so to speak, and apply in person at places that need help. Very few businesses in and around TV are NOT looking for workers. The Villages HR Dept. supplies (I assume) workers only for positions that are directly related to TV--gate guards, Community Watch and the like. But (again, assuming) there are vastly more opportunities in and around TV than there are positions working FOR TV.

All applications are done online thru the District or the Villages. You’re wasting peoples time to show up at a business with the Villages or the District to inquire about a job.

[BrianL99]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.


Perhaps reading the original post again, will shed some light on why the fit isn't right?

Folks who read resumes for a living, usually develop a knack for reading between the lines.

[margaretmattson]

They can tell a lot in your credit report. Poor score=unreliable.Unfortunate, if this is the case. You can have bad credit because you have not used credit for many years. I would think there are many elderly folks who have paid off their loans long ago. They have enough cash and do not need to buy on credit.

[lvshworles]

Does anyone know where to get a current resident phone book?

Also, regarding job applications, when did it become legal to ask your birthdate???

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

The bottom line is you don’t need to work there if they don’t want you. Apply at some other places, it probably won’t be long before you have a job.

[frayedends]

Well, interesting thread. Jeff, sorry you are getting some hostile responses and a lot of assumptions made.

People are correct that sometimes the easiest answer for a hiring manager is that you aren't a good fit. When I reject someone I try to explain a bit more, such as, "We've had many applicants and unfortunately you weren't chosen because we were looking for someone with more experience...a different degree...with experience in such and such."

When I say someone is not a good fit, it often is a personality trait. That doesn't mean they have a bad personality. It just means that based on the team dynamic I would expect a clash with other employees.

You mentioned trolley driver and caretaker. Is the caretaker a job in a rec center? Anyhow, seems these jobs rely heavily on a bright and happy personality with the public. You know, the type that is overly happy and non-confrontational. That may or may not be you, but how you portray yourself in an interview is important and the best advice I can give is tailor your resume and your interviewing style to the job. Also watch YouTube videos on interviewing. I learned a lot from the vids and they helped me land a much higher paying job within my company, a job I had been rejected for a few times.

Sometimes you gotta just play the game until your foot is in the door. Good luck.

[jimdecastro]

I had this experience. You got a rejection email (I never did - I was in a perpetual limbo). I have 40 years of customer service experience. My advise is change your resume. When they ask about salary say $13. This cancels a lot of people and if it pays $15 you get that anyway.

[jparsoneau@aol.com]

As many have already said, an employer does not need to give you an explanation of not hiring you.
And people cannot pull a credit report on somebody just to see your credit unless you’ve signed off on that. But I’ve never known anybody to run a credit report for a basic job.
I do believe they probably looked you up on social media. What kind of person do you look like on social media or maybe even a criminal history. Bottom line who cares move on go get a different job. there’s lots of people hiring. Obviously you’re taking this very personal, it’s just a job. Move on

[Girlcopper]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
They owe you no explanation. Obviously there is something in your background which is raising red flags and they don’t want to employ you. There’s plenty of other jobs so why harrass them for an explanation you won’t like anyway. Move on.

[msilagy]

They owe you NO explanation.

[TomPerry]

You will only get a vague answer like you did. If they give anyone the true answer why they rejected anyone, they would have a law suit on their hands. That the way it is these days!

[Rwirish]

Short answer, they don’t owe you any explanation.

[photo1902]

Does anyone know where to get a current resident phone book?

Also, regarding job applications, when did it become legal to ask your birthdate???

The Trolley Driver job requires a CDL. You must be at least years old to obtain one. Hence the asking for a date of birth/age.

[dhdallas]

You might not be a good fit...
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/members/dhdallas-118996/albums/golfing-in-tv/10350-personality-test.jpg

[daniel200]

In the age of lawyers and lawsuits, any employer would be crazy to offer any explanation for not extending an offer. An innocent slip of the tongue is all a lawyer needs to begin talking damages.

[Malsua]

I worked for The Villages for 18 months. My last day was last Thursday.

I applied for three different jobs, two IT related, one just a rec assistant. I got to the Rec Assistant ;)

You have to be absolutely squeaky clean to work for TV. No drug issues, no criminal record, no credit issues. They will call all your references. They even called the company I last worked for in September 1999.

The reason I didn't get the IT jobs? Salary requirement. I guess I messed that one up, I told them what I used to make, I figured half of that would have been low enough. I should have gone with a 1/3rd. "The salary requirement can cause issues" to which I responded, "make me an offer", I should have said "offer me anything" lol.

Ah well, I started my home inspection business and did the continuing education during the slack time as a Rec assistant, so I got paid to continue my education. That's the reason I quit, I am doing so much Inspection and handyman work, I don't have the time to waste at Lake Miona for $13.36 :)

[seecapecod]

In any company or business to walk into high level positions you have to be related or referred under the table. Otherwise you have to start at bottom and be proven loyal yes person if you want a do nothing job.

Absolutely not true. Nobody “walks in” in to a senior position- their experience and qualifications are reviewed, then they are interviewed (several times) and an offer may come. You start at the bottom if you have no prior experience

[GizmoWhiskers]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
Lots of people telling you with all due respect to move on they owe you nothing. Well hold up. There could be some reasons they aren't hiring you besides qualifications, oh and NOW alleged potential future threat of harrassment for continuing to ask..

Hmmmm, if you work for T V and have children your kids get to go to a Villages Charter School right?? State subsidies are paid to to the Wizzard of Oz developers for Charter Schools.

Do they have houses to fill in the under 55 district of Middleton (soon to be a second under 55 called Coleman something) and desks to fill in the new charter schools?

AGE, marital status, address are clues for HR as to applicants wanting to work in TV but perhaps not hired. It is NOT an imposibility to consider when motive might exist for a potentially very selective process of hiring in T V now that the "dream" is not only about retirees wanting to subsidize their income (don't forget about healthcare costs and the elderly, oops, who said that?)

How about race ethnicity questions on the application? Any of those ???'s on there?? Aren't we supposed to be inclusive, equal and diverse? Oh are those not possible Village job application denial thoughts to wonder about? Or are those just virtuous ideologies we have to chew on everyday thanks to msm whims?

Why doesn't OP have the right to wonder or even ask HR? Right, they don't have to answer.

Basic... of course T V is very aware of lawsuit liability for saying TOO much. The threat of being a harraser... hmmm no microagression there now is there??

Simple things like you need a "cdl for this job" - of course they could say that as it would be on the job listing unless the hr department isn't brainy enough to list that.

No answer and threats of accusations of harassment could mean there is more to say but they can't say it.

No, it's none of O P's business to wonder ?? BUT the Federal Gov cares about job discrimination and numbers doesn't it?

Who polices discrimination in T V hiring practices? Once upon a time T V probably hired old people living here probably before young people I bet. Could it be that it is not what you know (or can do) but WHO you know in TV that lands you a job in T V?

All great ??'s and what happened to "there are no dumb questions" in life.

Good luck OP I hope you find the perfect job.

[crash]

Why do they owe you an "explanation"?

You want a job, they don't want to give you one. End of story.

Exactly!!!!!!

[bowlingal]

they do check past work experience. Could be a past employer gave you a bad recommendation. Only you know if this is true. Drug testing is a BIG deal here in Florida. Think about it.

[ArkOuFan]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
Two suggestions. First have a friend review your application/resume with a critical eye. Some common errors are listing job history going back to many years. Employers don’t care what you did in 1990, what have you done recently. If you haven’t worked recently offer a good reason. Such as “ retired from successful career, but miss being part of a team”.
Also Team statements. If I saw an applicant with “I” to many times I wondered how they would fit in a team. My impression is the Villages is looking for good team players who not only work well with the public but also with all other employees.
Finally as stated you received all the explanation you’re entitled to. The worst thing you can do is trying to reach out for further explanation. They have invested in an online application system for a reason.

[NoMo50]

Posting your story here is not going to change anything. I suspect the OP already knows the answer to his "question." He would certainly know more than anyone responding on this forum.

[midiwiz]

They can tell a lot in your credit report. Poor score=unreliable.

they can't run a credit report

[midiwiz]

The Trolley Driver job requires a CDL. You must be at least years old to obtain one. Hence the asking for a date of birth/age.

they should be asking if the applicatant has a valid CDL not birthdate

[BrianL99]

they can't run a credit report

Companies typically don't run credit reports until they've made a hiring decision, in which case, may will run a report.

I *suspect* The Villages online Job Application system, has a "Terms & Conditions acknowledgement", which likely includes permission to run a credit report.

I don't know that for a fact, as I've never applied for a job. But knowing how efficient TV is at this stuff, I'd be surprised if you don't give them the right to run a credit report, when you click "submit".

[JGibson]

I worked for The Villages for 18 months. My last day was last Thursday.

I applied for three different jobs, two IT related, one just a rec assistant. I got to the Rec Assistant ;)

You have to be absolutely squeaky clean to work for TV. No drug issues, no criminal record, no credit issues. They will call all your references. They even called the company I last worked for in September 1999.

The reason I didn't get the IT jobs? Salary requirement. I guess I messed that one up, I told them what I used to make, I figured half of that would have been low enough. I should have gone with a 1/3rd. "The salary requirement can cause issues" to which I responded, "make me an offer", I should have said "offer me anything" lol.

Ah well, I started my home inspection business and did the continuing education during the slack time as a Rec assistant, so I got paid to continue my education. That's the reason I quit, I am doing so much Inspection and handyman work, I don't have the time to waste at Lake Miona for $13.36 :)

LOL Squeaky clean for $13.36.

Maybe TV has adopted DEI and you’re not the right *cough* fit.

[Kelevision]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

Unfortunately, that’s just how most places do it. I applied for a delivery job outside TV and got the same response. I’m more than qualified to drive a car but you can’t take it personally. Perhaps they think you’re over qualified.

[mikeycereal]

I had this experience. You got a rejection email (I never did - I was in a perpetual limbo). I have 40 years of customer service experience. My advise is change your resume. When they ask about salary say $13. This cancels a lot of people and if it pays $15 you get that anyway.

I have a steady income/skill over the last several years so I haven't done a resume in a while, but within the last 15 years I usually got good references and am hired right away. But the last time I had to submit a resume as a formality even though I knew an inside person, I put what I always did next to salary. Negotiable. That way you don't overshoot or undercut your potential pay. They'll give you starters pay anyway and then bump you up if it all works out.

For other companies a lot of times it's a personality thing. If you would be a fun addition to the team you get more consideration. They can always train you. And on training some want to train you their way not have someone stuck on an alternate version. But there are many factors depending on the company. Some like certain types of resumes too. You make think it's sufficient, but you never know how/good bad your resume looks to others until you take it to a professional resume builder and they start taking out/adding pertinent info.

With many others to go through in interviews and resumes, you need to knock their socks off or they'll just bury you in the stack.

[SeaCros]

Caretaker and trolley driver
You stated that you were MORE than qualified and that could be why you were "not a good fit". Some places these day know that the MORE than qualified folks will want more money and more perks than a less than qualified person. As others had suggested to move on and either keep trying inside the bubble or look outside.
my $0.05

[Desiderata]

You stated that you were MORE than qualified and that could be why you were "not a good fit". Some places these day know that the MORE than qualified folks will want more money and more perks than a less than qualified person. As others had suggested to move on and either keep trying inside the bubble or look outside.
my $0.05
I agree with you. Being more than qualified might make them think that you will leave the job as soon as you get a better offer. Years ago, when I was interviewing for an assistant, I received an application from a young man who was overly qualified for the job. I did not hire him for that very reason. I told him he was not a good fit.

[skippy05]

They owe you nothing. It hurts but move on to other opportunities.

[Sully2023]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

I was an HR professional for 25 years. Instead of calling the HR department, tailor your resume to show your skills match the requirements of the job. Most people don’t do this and then wonder why they never got an interview. In the past after I reviewed a person’s resume, it was evident if they met the skills and abilities I was seeking and I followed up with an interview.

Let your resume/application speak for itself. No company owes a candidate an explanation as to why they did not get an interview.
Bottom line - stop calling them and tailor your resume to meet the requirements of the job.

HR is way too busy to give an explanation to every candidate.

[BobnBev]

How's your driving history? CDL, DWI, more than one accident, Criminal convictions, complaints from neighbors, prior work history?:blahblahblah:

[frayedends]

they do check past work experience. Could be a past employer gave you a bad recommendation. Only you know if this is true. Drug testing is a BIG deal here in Florida. Think about it.

Employers with half a brain don’t give bad feedback on a former employee. Lawsuit issue again. Of course, there are ways to do it. If I get a call on a bad former employee I just say “He worked here from this date to that date and I have no other feedback to give.” They know what that means.

[MidWestIA]

From what you've said of your interaction you have a label there now and you won't get in

[Maker]

Employers with half a brain don’t give bad feedback on a former employee. Lawsuit issue again. Of course, there are ways to do it. If I get a call on a bad former employee I just say “He worked here from this date to that date and I have no other feedback to give.” They know what that means.

Our legal people in the employment section to HR was to restrict HR answers about employment questions with a simple "company policy says I can only confirm they worked here from x to y. Thank you and have a great day." Then hang up. It didn't matter if they invented a gadget that made us a billion dollars, or embezzled millions of dollars. Same reply, and never give any other info. NEVER. Not even a voice inflection that might be interpreted as a wink-wink hint.

If a random employee was called by someone and told they were used as a reference by somebody you worked with, you were not permitted to comment in any way. Absolutely nothing. Refer to HR.

Violation of that policy was immediate termination. Everybody certified they understood and signed off yearly. There were compliance test calls made to random people by our legal team, and people were terminated because they chose to disregard that policy.

Realize many calls get recorded. Misunderstanding of word meaning happens. Lawyers love to sue.

[Professor]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

If they say you are harassing them then you are calling too much. They don't owe you any more explanation than what they gave you. Look elsewhere for a job. Lots of businesses are looking for help around here.

[GoRedSox!]

Our legal people in the employment section to HR was to restrict HR answers about employment questions with a simple "company policy says I can only confirm they worked here from x to y. Thank you and have a great day." Then hang up. It didn't matter if they invented a gadget that made us a billion dollars, or embezzled millions of dollars. Same reply, and never give any other info. NEVER. Not even a voice inflection that might be interpreted as a wink-wink hint.

If a random employee was called by someone and told they were used as a reference by somebody you worked with, you were not permitted to comment in any way. Absolutely nothing. Refer to HR.

Violation of that policy was immediate termination. Everybody certified they understood and signed off yearly. There were compliance test calls made to random people by our legal team, and people were terminated because they chose to disregard that policy.

Realize many calls get recorded. Misunderstanding of word meaning happens. Lawyers love to sue. I had the same exact experience. We were strictly forbidden to say anything positive or negative. There certainly was no inference I was making when I confirmed that an employee worked there, that's all I was allowed to say. I think that's why many employers don't check references, I know I never did when I was hiring because I knew that I would get the same answer. HR Departments employ other screening methods like background and credit checks, drug screening, etc.

[Marmaduke]

They can tell a lot in your credit report. Poor score=unreliable.
Absolutely! A professor friend from long ago referred the Top graduate at the university for a high level federal job in sciences.

Feds said, "everything was glowing, excellent in every way except a black mark on her credit report that they would not yield.

They told her that she was welcomed to reapply in 7 years.

6 figures right out of college 13 years ago was utterly destroyed.

She couldn't connect with anything good for a very long time, but eventually worked in a university lab. Then again, it was during the AWFUL "Stimulus" years'.

[Debset]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
On the application, when it asks your availability I would suggest being availability for all shifts and hours. Once they call you for an interview you can discuss your availability at that time. Just a suggestion.

[Johnsocat]

If they are accusing you of harassment, they may feel you are trying to bully them into hiring you.
Not a good look for a prospective employee when applying for a job.

[TVTVTV]

More likely one or more of your references may not have helped or background check or social media posts.

Agree - or credit check, driving or other violations or convictions, or even an error in the application. Ask your true friends and family their opinion based on what they know about you and your desired positions. That will likely be the best feedback if they are honest with you. Keep trying elsewhere.

[DebMil]

They only pull credit when you are applying for a position in finance. And, you have to agree to have your credit pulled in any situation.

[HORNET]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages. When I procured my application I was told to look and dress appropriately, no shorts, nice slacks, a collared shirt, no tee shirt, nice shoes, no sneakers, hair combed, not wild! To be early and give all information on the application! It worked.

[defrey12]

The bottom line is you don’t need to work there if they don’t want you. Apply at some other places, it probably won’t be long before you have a job.

So true. I applied for numerous positions with TV. Crickets 🦗. Had a job at Lowe’s in two days. There you go.

[simplesimonsaid]

Employers with half a brain don’t give bad feedback on a former employee. Lawsuit issue again. Of course, there are ways to do it. If I get a call on a bad former employee I just say “He worked here from this date to that date and I have no other feedback to give.” They know what that means.

Best or worse reference I heard about was. "Worked here for seven months, entirely to his own satisfaction!"

[simplesimonsaid]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.

Judging by the tone of your posts, I reckons HR were right.

[rsmurano]

Some misinformation here. I have walked into many senior level positions in my IT career. 1 position, a VP called me for breakfast and asked how much would it cost them for me to come work for them. That was my interview.
I’ve had other jobs that had similar interviews. I’ve had friends in IT that moved straight into senior level positions. If you have the experience, and you are known in the field, you can write your own ticket.

As for credit scores, mine (close to the max) has stayed steady and I haven’t had any loans for houses or cars for almost a decade.

As for getting a job in IT these days, I haven’t worked for 7 years and I still get offers from companies on LinkedIn for $200k and more. There are a lot of jobs in IT at this time and they need skilled people that don’t need training and all of the 1’s contacting me are remote so you can live anywhere where there is internet.

[JamesLove]

They can tell a lot in your credit report. Poor score=unreliable.

In addition, I would check your references to try to find out if one of them is reporting something negative.

Also perhaps do a background check on yourself to make sure that nothing inaccurate is being reported.
This would include the off-chance that negative info from someone with the same name is being attributed to you.

Good luck.

[Mrs S]

I had no problem getting hired. I was Interviewed and my start date was just 3 weeks later. Background, fingerprints and references all checked out. Great place to work.

[Debset]

I still say, your availability matters most! Make sure they are aware you are available to suit their needs.

[airstreamingypsy]

I think I see the problem, aggressively demanding an explanation as to why they don't want to employ you seems self defeating. Maybe it's your tattoos, or something else they find physically displeasing? Maybe it's your grammar? I don't think they owe you an explanation, there are plenty of jobs on the outskirts of the Villages.

[kkingston57]

Employers with half a brain don’t give bad feedback on a former employee. Lawsuit issue again. Of course, there are ways to do it. If I get a call on a bad former employee I just say “He worked here from this date to that date and I have no other feedback to give.” They know what that means.

Was a terrible case in Florida involving an insurance company. They had a problem employee and let him go. Fearing retaliation they did not tell anyone. Guy got new job and new employer checked but could not find out about his problems. Guy killed several new co workers.

[yankygrl]

In addition, I would check your references to try to find out if one of them is reporting something negative.

Also perhaps do a background check on yourself to make sure that nothing inaccurate is being reported.
This would include the off-chance that negative info from someone with the same name is being attributed to you.

Good luck.
Why would TV do any of that PRIOR to actual interview….there is more going on then anyone on this site is aware of.

[Boomer]

Best or worse reference I heard about was. "Worked here for seven months, entirely to his own satisfaction!"

:) Back in the 70s, it was rumored that school administrators in the city and county had a code if asked for a reference for a teacher not to hire…….

“I cannot recommend that person highly enough.”

Boomer

[mraines]

I wanted to see if anybody has had the same experience with the Villages human resources department that I have had. I have been trying to get a job through them for the past six months, applying for positions that I am well qualified for. They say that they are not going to move forward with my application, and when I ask them why, the only answer they give me is, I am not a good fit. When I press them further, and ask them what they meant by that, all they told me was that it’s not doing my case any good to keep on calling and harassing them if I ever wanted to be employed by The Villages in the future. I’m not calling to harass them. they at least owe me an explanation as to why I can’t be employed by The Villages.
My experience is that they do not have to give you a reason. I once recommended someone I thought qualified for a job and he was turned down. I felt awful but was told they did not give him a reason. Perhaps you are of the wrong political party?

[Packer Fan]

In any company or business to walk into high level positions you have to be related or referred under the table. Otherwise you have to start at bottom and be proven loyal yes person if you want a do nothing job.

Where do you get that from? I have hired about 20 positions in the last 4 years, all professional, and not ONE was related or referred. Only one of them did I even have a connection - he worked at one of my suppliers and I knew the GM over there so I called for his opinion (he said hire him). Shows the importance of your reputation. However, The Villages is a corporation now, they don't operate on Related or referred and especially not "under the table". My guess is they get a lot of applications and maybe he isn't the best fit. The other thing is the position may be on hold. They often keep stuff posted and they are on hold. Never like that, but HR does it.

Seriously....

[Philipd411]

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[Jayhawk]

Posting your story here is not going to change anything. I suspect the OP already knows the answer to his "question."

:bigbow::bigbow::bigbow:

[collie1228]

On your application did you give them a Twitter account the could look at? Many employers review social media posts of prospective employers.

[rjm1cc]

It could be that they have some negative information on you. The problem is that the information maybe incorrect and be that of someone with a name similar to yours. Might ask them if they have information that is negative as you would like to make sure the information is correct and not a mistaken identity. It would be very easy to do an internet search and come to the wrong conclusions.

[Dusty_Star]

The other thing is the position may be on hold. They often keep stuff posted and they are on hold. Never like that, but HR does it. Seriously....

This is absolutely true of HR departments that I have known. They would much rather have a stack of applications from possible employees they can interview - if & when needed, than to have nothing at all when a manager contacts them saying he needs an immediate hire.

I agree with you, this is unfair to a job seeker, hoping for work & thinking there is an actual job behind the posting, but it probably happens more than we realize. The remedy for the job seeker is to not get their hopes up & to apply to lots of jobs.