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TVTVTV
01-29-2024, 10:23 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

BrianL99
01-29-2024, 10:34 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)


Aside from considering this post to be some sort of joke, The Villages could not implement such a thing, as they have no control over such things ... like people walking their dogs on public streets or hanging out at Town Squares.

The ONLY thing The Villages control, are Deed Restrictions and Covenants. CDD's control the use of amenities and utilities. The state and the various towns/counties control everything else and are in charge of dog poop.

fdpaq0580
01-29-2024, 11:09 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

While DNA may be practical in some situations, I doubt it would work well here.
Our issue here, correct me if I'm wrong, isn't that folks don't pick up, as much as the fact that they take the dog to other properties to do their business. It is the act of trespassing and depositing filth, urine and/or feces, that is upsetting. Picking up does not return the spot to its former condition. Try picking up the same way when the dog has an accident on your carpet. I doubt anyone would be satisfied that the carpet was sufficiently clean.
Assuming that you have unrestricted use of properties that do not belong to you is arrogance, plain and simple.
This arrogant use of properties you don't own is a form of abuse. People don't like being abused. That is the problem.
"Keep Off ! It doesn't belong to you!"

Bogie Shooter
01-29-2024, 11:24 AM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

fdpaq0580
01-29-2024, 11:31 AM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

NO! 200 minimum! Even if I have to do all the posts myself.🙃

Altavia
01-29-2024, 11:41 AM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

Another Zombie thread....

Taltarzac725
01-29-2024, 12:44 PM
Poop! We don't need no stinkin' poop!

thelegges
01-29-2024, 01:24 PM
Think about when you buy your home, you get your pictures taken for your new residence ID.

Your pet gets their picture taken for a tag, that has scanned at each dog park, square, and walking path and a deposit sample bag to be returned within 48 hours

At least we can make 200 posts funny.

Velvet
01-29-2024, 01:53 PM
The problem starts when they allow their dog on another person’s property for any reason. Some people are intimidated by dogs that the owner does not seem to have under control. That is even before the dog poops on the lawn. I just don’t understand why people want to make their neighbors upset. There is no way I see a positive outcome.

Sometimes visitors aren’t told the rules and expectations, and sometimes quite innocently, they wonder why they are being shunned.There is a new neighbor in our neck of the woods. Lets dogs out indiscriminately. I think they were run out of the area they lived previously in TV and they’re not off to a good start so far.

Taltarzac725
01-29-2024, 02:22 PM
The problem starts when they allow their dog on another person’s property for any reason. Some people are intimidated by dogs that the owner does not seem to have under control. That is even before the dog poops on the lawn. I just don’t understand why people want to make their neighbors upset. There is no way I see a positive outcome.

Sometimes visitors aren’t told the rules and expectations, and sometimes quite innocently, they wonder why they are being shunned.There is a new neighbor in our neck of the woods. Lets dogs out indiscriminately. I think they were run out of the area they lived previously in TV and they’re not off to a good start so far.

I hope this is not near a golf course? Coyotes use the golf courses at night to get around and hunt. I only know of small dogs being taken though by these animals.

The bigger worry is dogs getting hit by cars or golf carts. I know a lot more pooches killed or maimed by cars running into them. Or, golf carts.

OrangeBlossomBaby
01-29-2024, 02:28 PM
A neighbor was tying their dogs up in their driveway, unsupervised. I let them know that sure - that's allowed. But the coyotes, bobcats, foxes, owls, eagles, hawks, and other birds of prey would be VERY happy to see that habit continued. So far, they haven't left their dogs out unsupervised since. Very glad about that, because I was absolutely serious. I really like my neighbor. And I love dogs. But I also love nature in general, and owls gotta eat, and nothing says "lunch" to an owl like a tiny miniature furball tied to a stake in the front yard.

Taltarzac725
01-29-2024, 02:47 PM
A neighbor was tying their dogs up in their driveway, unsupervised. I let them know that sure - that's allowed. But the coyotes, bobcats, foxes, owls, eagles, hawks, and other birds of prey would be VERY happy to see that habit continued. So far, they haven't left their dogs out unsupervised since. Very glad about that, because I was absolutely serious. I really like my neighbor. And I love dogs. But I also love nature in general, and owls gotta eat, and nothing says "lunch" to an owl like a tiny miniature furball tied to a stake in the front yard.

Most of the dogs taken by wildlife were at dawn, dusk or at night.

Jayhawk
01-29-2024, 04:39 PM
A neighbor was tying their dogs up in their driveway, unsupervised. I let them know that sure - that's allowed. But the coyotes, bobcats, foxes, owls, eagles, hawks, and other birds of prey would be VERY happy to see that habit continued.

Plus, these critters along with squirrels, rats, snakes, feral cats, and small birds poop in the yards and NO ONE complains about that.

There are probably less than 100 rude neighbors out of 150,000 that don't pick up after their dogs. Ranting about it on ToTV ain't gonna fix those few entitled buttheads.

Deep breath. Be happy. Move on.

Velvet
01-29-2024, 04:56 PM
Plus, these critters along with squirrels, rats, snakes, feral cats, and small birds poop in the yards and NO ONE complains about that.

There are probably less than 100 rude neighbors out of 150,000 that don't pick up after their dogs. Ranting about it on ToTV ain't gonna fix those few entitled buttheads.

Deep breath. Be happy. Move on.

No one is responsible for the behavior of wild animals but dogs are pets. The difference seems obvious.

Byte1
01-29-2024, 05:12 PM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

I'm sure that everyone that owns a pet will jump on this idea.............NOT!
If they would be willing to do this, don't you think that they would also be willing to stay out of other resident's property? AND there is no way to force folks to comply, especially renters with their dogs. Sure, it might work in a small apartment complex, because they could be evicted if they didn't comply. Not in the Villages.

Byte1
01-29-2024, 05:18 PM
By the way, related to the subject, on the way back from picking up my mail, I noticed TWO different residents on two different blocks that were picking up their dog poop in the own yards. The reason I know that it was their dogs poop is that I saw the dogs on a leash with them when they were picking it up and then they entered their homes. As much I as I am irritated by folks using my lawn for a dog toilet, I have to give credit where it is deserved. Those two neighbors are good dog owners and good neighbors.

Taltarzac725
01-29-2024, 05:30 PM
There are probably ten thousand dogs here in Villages. Just a rough guess. Many have two and a few have three.

Dusty_Star
01-29-2024, 05:36 PM
I guess I am lucky. None, not one, of the many dog walkers in my neighborhood allow their leashed dogs to poop on someone else's property. They walk with little bags & paper towels & pick up after their pooches. I have never encountered dog poop in my yard, but I have found a few dead snakes. (I suspect birds drop them, but I could be wrong). Where are you living that this is a problem? Or alternatively, I just won the 'my Village is the best' competition.

Velvet
01-29-2024, 05:55 PM
I guess I am lucky. None, not one, of the many dog walkers in my neighborhood allow their leashed dogs to poop on someone else's property. They walk with little bags & paper towels & pick up after their pooches. I have never encountered dog poop in my yard, but I have found a few dead snakes. (I suspect birds drop them, but I could be wrong). Where are you living that this is a problem? Or alternatively, I just won the 'my Village is the best' competition.

If you think it is not a recurrent issue, do you think there would be so many threads with so many people posting about it?

I still remember when I used to check houses out before buying and I looked in the backyard when a story came to my mind about a guy opening his door with a shot gun, asking, “Do I shoot you or the dog, first?” I remembered not to step on people’s property, even if I thought the house was vacant.

BrianL99
01-29-2024, 05:56 PM
There are probably ten thousand dogs here in Villages. Just a rough guess. Many have two and a few have three.

Probably closer to 40,000 - 50,000, so you're close.

Papa_lecki
01-29-2024, 06:08 PM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

I am taking the OVER

billethkid
01-29-2024, 06:19 PM
By the way, related to the subject, on the way back from picking up my mail, I noticed TWO different residents on two different blocks that were picking up their dog poop in the own yards. The reason I know that it was their dogs poop is that I saw the dogs on a leash with them when they were picking it up and then they entered their homes. As much I as I am irritated by folks using my lawn for a dog toilet, I have to give credit where it is deserved. Those two neighbors are good dog owners and good neighbors.

I am compelled to comment....those two neighbors are a fraction of the majority of us responsible dog owners.

The irresponsible dog owners, isolated incidents, the less than 5% are presented similarly to a general condition.....which it is not!

So much for a crappy subject! :popcorn:

Jayhawk
01-29-2024, 06:26 PM
If you think it is not a recurrent issue, do you think there would be so many threads with so many people posting about it?



Mostly the same cranky people re-hashing the same thing over and over. They must think if they say it enough it will change to suit them.

fdpaq0580
01-29-2024, 09:59 PM
I hope this is not near a golf course? Coyotes use the golf courses at night to get around and hunt. I only know of small dogs being taken though by these animals.

The bigger worry is dogs getting hit by cars or golf carts. I know a lot more pooches killed or maimed by cars running into them. Or, golf carts.

All animals need to eat. Some eat plants. Some hunt other animals. Some eat the roadkill. Keep your pets close or don't whine when they become food. Jmho.

fdpaq0580
01-29-2024, 10:14 PM
Mostly the same cranky people re-hashing the same thing over and over. They must think if they say it enough it will change to suit them.

Just venting. We're able to understand that entitled and arrogant idiocy is unable to conceive a concept like treating others as they would like to be treated, with courtesy and respect.

dhdallas
01-29-2024, 10:16 PM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

Is it April Fool's Day?

fdpaq0580
01-29-2024, 10:17 PM
No one is responsible for the behavior of wild animals but dogs are pets. The difference seems obvious.

Agree. Obvious to anyone but the entitled.

TEXJK
01-30-2024, 04:20 AM
The responsible pet owners need to take their poop bags home with them to dispose of them in the trash. Not throw them in the gutters which end up in the ponds after heavy rains.
Notching like fishing and thinking you just hooked a lunker only to find out it’s bag of “Lassies” S#&t

mikempp
01-30-2024, 05:57 AM
We don’t have that problem in my platt.

G.R.I.T.S.
01-30-2024, 06:01 AM
There is a new neighbor in our neck of the woods. Lets dogs out indiscriminately. I think they were run out of the area they lived previously in TV and they’re not off to a good start so far.[/QUOTE]

Mother Nature will resolve that issue when only one returns. 😳

midiwiz
01-30-2024, 06:22 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

sure lets go with the waste of time and money solution...

bowlingal
01-30-2024, 06:28 AM
who is going to pay for these tests? And, what about guests, renters, 1 day visitors who have dogs and are only here for a short time? How are you going to possible keep track?

Norge
01-30-2024, 07:00 AM
You must of lost your mind!

PhilG
01-30-2024, 07:44 AM
Think dogs are being blamed unfairly. Think all villagers (esp. snowbirds) should submit cheek swabs for testing so we have a complete data base.
Stop species-ism now!

Chamo
01-30-2024, 07:44 AM
This is why this site is getting very ****ty. People post stupid articles and then another bunch of people comment. What a waste of my time reading this site.

Girlcopper
01-30-2024, 07:47 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)
Seriously? Lol. DNA testing to determine what dog pooped where?? The villages has no authority to take DNA from any dog or charge a fee. If someone tried to DNA collect from my dog, that wouldn’t be possible since it would take me awhile to get up off the ground after laughing my butt off. And just because someone refuses to do something doesn’t make them guilty of something. Stop watching so much crime dramas on TV.

TeresaE
01-30-2024, 07:54 AM
My IQ has dropped 10pts reading this post.

1009 wilder
01-30-2024, 07:59 AM
just put it in the st

Gizemo33
01-30-2024, 08:22 AM
WOW, are you kidding? This is what you consider important? FYI I disagree.

Rodneysblue
01-30-2024, 08:24 AM
Poop, poop, piz, piz, oh what a relief it is.

waterflower
01-30-2024, 08:36 AM
Start your dog-free community..You could control every regulation. And change them whenever you get angry.

SHIBUMI
01-30-2024, 08:37 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.



There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?



Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

Finally, a way to get rid of our biggest problem in TV

TeresaE
01-30-2024, 08:38 AM
Once the dirty dogs are identified then what??? Do we publicly spank the owners with rolled up newspapers or the dogs? I vote for pushing the owners face into the dog sh!t...repeatedly until there is remorseful repentance. This could be done at BROWNwood Square for example. During Happy Hour before the band starts. Then we'd toast with Dirty Martinis.

Maybe TV should start by limiting dog size to small breeds. My little ones only make tiny poops that turn into a raisin in the sun. Easy disposal. Big dogs and big dog owners are the real problem. They should be eliminated because no one wants to pick up a giant pile of steaming dog poo! That's the exact reason they walk their big pooping dogs onto our lawns and walk away acting like they didn't know. They don't want sh!t in their yard and dont give two sh!ts about anyone but themselves. They are some nasty, disgusting, sh!tty people!!!


I am a big black dog. Born this way, without any control of my most unfortunate circumstance. Discarded at a tender age, barely off my mother’s teat, along with my litter mates. Thought of as no more than garbage. Were it not for the sympathy and kindness of a stranger, I most certainly would not be here today.

I have endeavored since that fateful day of my rescue to live the most righteous life a dog can live. Seeking not to disturb and to obey without question the commands of my humans.

To that end, I most carefully place my pile as my humans say, on a common area swath of grass. And they, in return, most courteously remove my pile. I must then traverse through the numerous remanence of tiny poops left by the privileged, purebred dogs that have never know a day of cold, hunger and fear.

That I must say Hath
not a large dog eyes? hath not a large dog paw, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a small dog is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if a little dog poops does it not still stink, polite and breed flies as mine does?

Therefore I say, do not condemn me with your prejudices. Rather open your eyes to the beauty of my character. After all, All Creatures Great and Small. God Loves them, One and All.

Topspinmo
01-30-2024, 08:38 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)


Biggest issue? :oops:I think not.

airstreamingypsy
01-30-2024, 08:38 AM
"One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. " LOL. No, it's coming to anyone of the many Villages social media sites and being subjected to yet another dog poop thread.

PLedoux
01-30-2024, 08:41 AM
My first response to this post is to refute the first sentence. I don’t believe this is “one of the biggest issues Villagers face.” I admit it is an unpleasant situation, but, seriously, there are bigger problems in the world. I try very hard to control where my dog goes, but occasionally she does go somewhere she shouldn’t. I hope my neighbors do not see this as a sign of aggression on my part. It is just an accident. And I will always pick up after her. Also, this not a situation limited to The Villages. It is an issue anywhere dogs live. At our home in Michigan, I have to clean up a lot of rabbit poop in my fenced back yard so my dog doesn’t eat it. And birds make a pretty big mess on our cars, we don’t go trying to get dna samples from them. Animals don’t really understand how their elimination habits offend us humans so much.yes, dog owners should be responsible for cleaning up after their pets, but I think this issue is a little over blown. Bigger problems do exist in the world.

Whitley
01-30-2024, 08:42 AM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

That Many?

Taltarzac725
01-30-2024, 08:45 AM
He who poops last...

...has a lot to clean up.

Whitley
01-30-2024, 08:50 AM
Seriously? Lol. DNA testing to determine what dog pooped where?? The villages has no authority to take DNA from any dog or charge a fee. If someone tried to DNA collect from my dog, that wouldn’t be possible since it would take me awhile to get up off the ground after laughing my butt off. And just because someone refuses to do something doesn’t make them guilty of something. Stop watching so much crime dramas on TV.

TV can enact such a system. I handle several Associations and several have hired the DNA service. Like you, I thought it had to be fake, but alas. Another winner would be ESA. There will be no such thing as a pet free Association soon. My attorney advises I look at the animals as wheelchairs and not pets.We even have multiple esa's for one person. If they can get a letter from a medical professional (massage therapist?) stating each animal provides specific needs, they are allowed under law.Had one lady fill out all [paperwork, go through the interview stating that she has no pets. The day she moves in she has two dogs, one cat, one rabbit and a letter from a doctors stating each is an esa.

Bhighley
01-30-2024, 08:51 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)


It may be easier to move.

Taltarzac725
01-30-2024, 08:57 AM
Seriously? Lol. DNA testing to determine what dog pooped where?? The villages has no authority to take DNA from any dog or charge a fee. If someone tried to DNA collect from my dog, that wouldn’t be possible since it would take me awhile to get up off the ground after laughing my butt off. And just because someone refuses to do something doesn’t make them guilty of something. Stop watching so much crime dramas on TV.

That is a funny response.

Unless you live by someone with a Mastiff, Great Dane, etc. why get so worked up? There are all kinds of animals pooping on your yards. Some of those squirrels probably pack a heavy load. What Does Squirrel Poop Look Like? Squirrel Droppings Identification - Animal Hype (https://animalhype.com/mammals/squirrel-poop/)

And then there is all that birdlife which almost always gets my car if it is outside.

And the love bugs are the worst....

GATORBILL66
01-30-2024, 09:05 AM
Start fining the owners, beginning with $50.00 fines and increasing with each occasion. People can take videos of the owners and turn them in.

Betty Wagner
01-30-2024, 09:06 AM
A: Always have poop bag, with you, in your car, in your golf cart.
B: Possibly Villages could install poop bag posts at mail box areas, one or two at the squares.

Julijac
01-30-2024, 09:07 AM
Instead of DNA testing, why doesn’t TV install dog poop station’s throughout the villages that has bags and receptacles, so if someone doesn’t have a bag on them for whatever reason they can get a bag and dispose of it easily. The receptacles can be emptied by maintenance when they are mowing. I’ve lived in apartment complexes that offered that, and it was quite nice, and there were less “issues.”

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:16 AM
sure lets go with the waste of time and money solution...

There are places that the DNA solution becomes the only solution when pet owners refuse to acknowledge their responsibility.
But, for now, we can avoid this, IF pet owners realize they (not all, but many) are the problem, and the home owners who resent being abused and complain are not.
So, if it isn't your yard, keep out!

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:41 AM
I am a big black dog. Born this way, without any control of my most unfortunate circumstance. Discarded at a tender age, barely off my mother’s teat, along with my litter mates. Thought of as no more than garbage. Were it not for the sympathy and kindness of a stranger, I most certainly would not be here today.

I have endeavored since that fateful day of my rescue to live the most righteous life a dog can live. Seeking not to disturb and to obey without question the commands of my humans.

To that end, I most carefully place my pile as my humans say, on a common area swath of grass. And they, in return, most courteously remove my pile. I must then traverse through the numerous remanence of tiny poops left by the privileged, purebred dogs that have never know a day of cold, hunger and fear.

That I must say Hath
not a large dog eyes? hath not a large dog paw, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a small dog is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if a little dog poops does it not still stink, polite and breed flies as mine does?

Therefore I say, do not condemn me with your prejudices. Rather open your eyes to the beauty of my character. After all, All Creatures Great and Small. God Loves them, One and All.

Adorable! But, certainly you are aware that dogs are not the problem. Never have been. It's the dog owners! Humans that take their dogs, not for exercise, but to use the neighbors yard for their toilet. That is where the problem is. Trespassing and dumping of raw sewage and only partially removed to hide the evidence.

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:48 AM
Instead of DNA testing, why doesn’t TV install dog poop station’s throughout the villages that has bags and receptacles, so if someone doesn’t have a bag on them for whatever reason they can get a bag and dispose of it easily. The receptacles can be emptied by maintenance when they are mowing. I’ve lived in apartment complexes that offered that, and it was quite nice, and there were less “issues.”

By the time we pay to provide bags, bins, and extra maintenence workers and administrators, well, DNA info on a laptop would be way cheaper.

Philipd411
01-30-2024, 10:55 AM
editbyme

rochellepfaff
01-30-2024, 11:02 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

I think it would be helpful if The Villages put "doggie stations" along the main roads. People who walk their dogs have nowhere to dispose of the bags and have to carry them all the way home. I walk a 3 mile loop most mornings, and if the dogs poops early in the walk, I have to carry it the rest of the way. That is one reason, I'm sure, why some people don't pick up after their dog. I saw someone a few months ago who picked up, and then threw it down the sewer drain - another no no!!!!! (I scolded him.) If The Villages provided waste cans along many of the roads, I think more people would pick up, and dispose of the bags properly.

Jayhawk
01-30-2024, 11:19 AM
I handle several Associations and several have hired the DNA service.

Please name the associations that have hired pet DNA services. Phone numbers would be helpful, too.

Sandy and Ed
01-30-2024, 11:26 AM
Wouldn’t work. Too expensive and complicated. Better idea? Poop bag dispensers at places where many people take their dogs to walk. Maybe encourage sales of poop bags at the rec centers as a revenue source. (Believe it or not the very few places that carry these bags often run out). Mayors of villa communities could buy a case and sell to their dog owners at a profit. Just a blue sky idea

Taltarzac725
01-30-2024, 11:29 AM
Wouldn’t work. Too expensive and complicated. Better idea? Poop bag dispensers at places where many people take their dogs to walk. Maybe encourage sales of poop bags at the rec centers as a revenue source. (Believe it or not the very few places that carry these bags often run out). Mayors of villa communities could buy a case and sell to their dog owners at a profit. Just a blue sky idea

They do have these at Lake Miona Park off CR472. With a camera getting all the action in the park. Lake Miona Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/204/Lake-Miona-Park) Lake Miona also has a trash place for just dog poop. Not sure why else you would open it up.

And outside various pet stores here in the Villages offer bags outside off of a toilet paper dispenser like thing.

Johnsocat
01-30-2024, 11:31 AM
No one is responsible for the behavior of wild animals but dogs are pets. The difference seems obvious.

So, you are saying that all poop isn't offensive poop? Only dog poop is a problem?
You know a domesticated dog with no human and no training is a feral, wild animal instinctually?

Sandy and Ed
01-30-2024, 11:41 AM
I think it would be helpful if The Villages put "doggie stations" along the main roads. People who walk their dogs have nowhere to dispose of the bags and have to carry them all the way home. I walk a 3 mile loop most mornings, and if the dogs poops early in the walk, I have to carry it the rest of the way. That is one reason, I'm sure, why some people don't pick up after their dog. I saw someone a few months ago who picked up, and then threw it down the sewer drain - another no no!!!!! (I scolded him.) If The Villages provided waste cans along many of the roads, I think more people would pick up, and dispose of the bags properly.
Agree overall. Additionally why is it off limits to put properly bagged dog excrement (tied bag) into the receptacles located at the pool/postal stations? Assuming that these receptacles are emptied with regularity and bags are sealed what’s the harm??

Sandy and Ed
01-30-2024, 11:44 AM
They do have these at Lake Miona Park off CR472. With a camera getting all the action in the park. Lake Miona Park | Sumter County, FL - Official Website (https://www.sumtercountyfl.gov/204/Lake-Miona-Park) Lake Miona also has a trash place for just dog poop. Not sure why else you would open it up.

And outside various pet stores here in the Villages offer bags outside off of a toilet paper dispenser like thing.
All good points but most owners take daily walks in the neighborhood not just at dog parks. And there are not all that many pet shops here. The issue is more involving neighborhoods.

Sandy and Ed
01-30-2024, 11:53 AM
You know I’m surprised no one has simply asked how some of our cities are handling the excrement issues that they have been having recently. Maybe we could learn something from them or vice-versa. At least our problem for the present is confined to four legged domesticated creatures. Think poop bag stations on Madison Avenue would work??

Bogie Shooter
01-30-2024, 11:55 AM
Let’s see, put a little boutique in the rec centers to sell poop bags, villa neighborhoods ( who are these villa mayors?), get a volunteer to sell bags (also in each village), now empty trash cans at mail stations twice a week, put poop bag collection stations around The Villages, station someone to collect bags at town squares and on and on

.sound silly yet?
:rolleyes::22yikes::laugh:

NoMo50
01-30-2024, 12:11 PM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

This is a joke, right? Extracting DNA from fecal material requires a specialized type of testing, and it certainly ain't cheap. Probably somewhere in the $500 neighborhood.

Then...say you take a sample and get it tested. Who pays for that? Once you get results (maybe, maybe not), what do you compare it to? Submitting your dog's DNA would be on a voluntary basis, and if a dog/owner were "serial poopers," I doubt they would ever submit a sample for the database. And who is to enforce this farcical idea? Neither the Developer nor the Districts are going to get involved in this. So where does that leave you?

I have a better idea...take up golf; or pickleball; or water volleyball; or anything. Someone has WAY too much time on their hands to be looking this hard for something to complain about. Bob Marley said it all..."Don't worry, be happy."

Velvet
01-30-2024, 12:21 PM
So, you are saying that all poop isn't offensive poop? Only dog poop is a problem?
You know a domesticated dog with no human and no training is a feral, wild animal instinctually?

I am saying that we can’t control wild animals, but we, owners, are responsible for our pets. Your argument is similar to: if the wind blows trash on the lawns, then it’s okay to throw your trash on the lawns. Isn’t all trash offensive?

(To me it sounds like some are looking for an excuse to allow their pets on other people’s lawns. People spend thousands of dollars annually to keep up their lawn, and they don’t do it so others can use it as their dog’s litter box.)

Ramone
01-30-2024, 04:28 PM
In ten years here I’ve never seen anyone walk away from their dogs poop. Maybe it’s Coyotes poop.

=TVTVTV;2296170]One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)[/QUOTE]

Ladays1978@gmail.com
01-30-2024, 05:13 PM
What makes you think that the people guilty of not picking up the dog poop will have this test done?

GoPacers
01-30-2024, 06:51 PM
If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)

Taltarzac725
01-30-2024, 08:24 PM
If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)


I believe it is the dog urine that can kill grass. Is Dog Pee Killing Grass in Your Yard? Here’s How to Fix It - Bob Vila (https://www.bobvila.com/articles/dog-pee-killing-grass/)

My pooch pees a little here, and a little there, and then somewhere else. Usually where other dogs have gone. And sometimes if a dog is nearby they will have a ****ing contest as to which dog is the last to pee in that one spot.

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:07 PM
102559

How did you get my picture?

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:28 PM
If a dog poops in our yard and the owner picks it up, that's a neighbor I'm glad to have in our neighborhood. Life's too short and there are far too many other reasons for my grass to not grow than any residual dog poop left in my yard.

Cow manure (Black Cow) and Milorganite (microbes that have digested wastewater in Milwaukee) are two of the best fertilizers for many of our lawns...

Heck, that grass with the residual dog poop that the owner left after picking up the mess may be the greenest grass in your lawn ;)

Be that as it may. (it is some of the worst in my yard do inpart to the extreme frequency of visitations, often ending with dog tearing the grass) To me it is less about the dogs poop than about the arrogant attitude of owner's that feel entitled to use a neighbors property for their own expediency without expressed permission. There is no justification for trespassing for the express purpose of depositing raw sewage in a neighbors yard.

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:30 PM
I believe it is the dog urine that can kill grass. Is Dog Pee Killing Grass in Your Yard? Here’s How to Fix It - Bob Vila (https://www.bobvila.com/articles/dog-pee-killing-grass/)

My pooch pees a little here, and a little there, and then somewhere else. Usually where other dogs have gone. And sometimes if a dog is nearby they will have a ****ing contest as to which dog is the last to pee in that one spot.

Scent marking.

JustSomeGuy
01-30-2024, 09:34 PM
Aside from considering this post to be some sort of joke, The Villages could not implement such a thing, as they have no control over such things ... like people walking their dogs on public streets or hanging out at Town Squares.

The ONLY thing The Villages control, are Deed Restrictions and Covenants. CDD's control the use of amenities and utilities. The state and the various towns/counties control everything else and are in charge of dog poop.

Might want to review your deed restrictions. District 14 has the following (look for the dog poop clause.....excrement.....):
2.23 Domestic pets shall be permitted, provided they do not create a nuisance to others. Each Owner shall be personally responsible for any damage caused to dedicated or reserved areas by any such pet and shall be responsible to immediately remove and dispose of any excrement of such pet and shall be responsible to keep such pet on a leash. Notwithstanding the foregoing, no other animals, livestock, poultry, or swine of any kind shall be raised, bred, or kept on any Homesite or on dedicated or reserved areas.

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 09:37 PM
I am saying that we can’t control wild animals, but we, owners, are responsible for our pets. Your argument is similar to: if the wind blows trash on the lawns, then it’s okay to throw your trash on the lawns. Isn’t all trash offensive?

(To me it sounds like some are looking for an excuse to allow their pets on other people’s lawns. People spend thousands of dollars annually to keep up their lawn, and they don’t do it so others can use it as their dog’s litter box.)

100% on the money.

fdpaq0580
01-30-2024, 10:44 PM
This is a joke, right? Extracting DNA from fecal material requires a specialized type of testing, and it certainly ain't cheap. Probably somewhere in the $500 neighborhood.

Then...say you take a sample and get it tested. Who pays for that? Once you get results (maybe, maybe not), what do you compare it to? Submitting your dog's DNA would be on a voluntary basis, and if a dog/owner were "serial poopers," I doubt they would ever submit a sample for the database. And who is to enforce this farcical idea? Neither the Developer nor the Districts are going to get involved in this. So where does that leave you?

I have a better idea...take up golf; or pickleball; or water volleyball; or anything. Someone has WAY too much time on their hands to be looking this hard for something to complain about. Bob Marley said it all..."Don't worry, be happy."

"Don't worry. Be happy" was Bobby McFerrin, not Bob Marley.
The problem is the attitude of one group. Some dog owners, who have the mistaken idea that having a dog allows them to trespass against their neighbors. Rude, crude and arrogant and just plain disrespectful of others property. (How utterly "Karen")

midiwiz
01-31-2024, 06:22 AM
My IQ has dropped 10pts reading this post.

only 10? I thought it dropped everyone at least 50.....

Bellavita
01-31-2024, 06:40 AM
Lazy dirty dog owners make me sick

I would never ever not pick up after my dog

But your solution will never work. The dirty would never participate QUOTE=TVTVTV;2296170]One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)[/QUOTE]

Papa_lecki
01-31-2024, 07:34 AM
How does this get enforced. This could work at a condo complex, but The Villages is 7 miles with 150,000 residents.

Sheriff can’t enforce it, unless it was codified by the county.
Community Watch? Are they going to drive around checking houses or check dog DNA?
Does every dog walker get stopped? Villages could put a rule in place, but it’s a rule, not a law - you can’t stop every dog walker and ask for your DNA paper - there’s a thing called probably cause.

Oh yes, I gave my dog’s DNA, my proof is back at the house, 3 miles away, want to follow me there?

Byte1
01-31-2024, 07:42 AM
Instead of DNA testing, why doesn’t TV install dog poop station’s throughout the villages that has bags and receptacles, so if someone doesn’t have a bag on them for whatever reason they can get a bag and dispose of it easily. The receptacles can be emptied by maintenance when they are mowing. I’ve lived in apartment complexes that offered that, and it was quite nice, and there were less “issues.”

Sure, and maybe you can suggest that EVERY resident in the Villages provide a supply of poop bags for anyone walking a dog by their home that wishes to use your lawn as a toilet. After all, why should the dog owner be responsible, right? Kind of like blaming society for criminal behavior and paying the criminal to not commit a crime in their neighborhood.

Byte1
01-31-2024, 07:55 AM
Picking up after your dog is NOT the issue. It is allowing the dog to use our lawn as a toilet. Sure, my neighbors pick up after their dog, but they don't/can't pick up urine. Those who say urine does not ruin grass are liars. My lawn is one of the greenest lawns in the neighborhood, except one BIG yellow spot that every dog stops and urinates next to my driveway. Neighbors have gotten the message that I don't want dog poop on my lawn, so they think I can't see them on the short strip of property next to the driveway. Normally, a dog urine does not yellow the grass, but when dog after dog uses the same spot over and over again, the urine kills the grass.
I mow my own lawn. I know there are some that don't pick up after their pet and some that can't see to get all of the poop up when they attempt to pick up after their animal. I get it, but I also don't appreciate stepping on the leftover and tracking it into the house. It is NOT unreasonable to have pride in one's property and it is not unreasonable for someone to respect other folk's property. I have owned and trained many dogs and I have never, ever allowed one to defecate on someone else's property. A dog can be taught very easily to go in one area. Some folks (many folks) should not own pets if they are not willing to learn how to care for them properly. Makes one wonder how they ever managed to raise their children if they cannot control their pets.
Rant? Yes, because some folks are too stupid to understand and/or respect other folks property. And keep your animals out of shopping carts. They do not belong there. Leave them at home. Surely, you can live a few minutes or an hour away from your pets.
You don't like my rant? I don't give a "poop." :cus:...:spoken:

DonnaNi4os
01-31-2024, 08:02 AM
As a responsible dog owner I am in favor of your proposal. I am tired of picking up other dogs’ poop. Remember that it’s not the fault of the dog, it’s the fault of the owner.

william russ
01-31-2024, 08:59 AM
My security camera picks up over 100 dog walkers per day entering the field off Ventura drive so my dead end street is almost always packed with golf carts and cars from day light to sun down, Getting in and out of our driveways is always a problem, This started over 4 years ago when the villages closed up the entrance to the field by the rio grand pool where there is a parking lot. And yes I get dog waste in. my yard.

Jdasta
01-31-2024, 09:31 AM
Start fining the owners, beginning with $50.00 fines and increasing with each occasion. People can take videos of the owners and turn them in.

There is no law in the State of Florida that states that a dog cannot walk on or “go” on the easement of properties. No one should feel fear or guilt when walking their dogs. A responsible owner picks up after their dogs. Poop does not destroy grass, nor will urine if just done once in one spot. When streets are too hot to walk on, the dog has to walk on the grass. Our realtor told us TV is dog friendly, and I truly believe it is—except for a few people.

Velvet
01-31-2024, 11:10 AM
There is no law in the State of Florida that states that a dog cannot walk on or “go” on the easement of properties. No one should feel fear or guilt when walking their dogs. A responsible owner picks up after their dogs. Poop does not destroy grass, nor will urine if just done once in one spot. When streets are too hot to walk on, the dog has to walk on the grass. Our realtor told us TV is dog friendly, and I truly believe it is—except for a few people.

Your realtor was lying. If they meant you can let your dog onto other people’s lawn. Most TV is not friendly towards owners who let their dogs on people’s property. Easement areas included, they are not for you or your dog, they are only for workers. You, on the other hand, can designate your lawn, if you wish, as the local litter box for neighbor’s dogs.

4$ALE
01-31-2024, 11:28 AM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

Getting close. :a20:

kendi
01-31-2024, 11:48 AM
We just don’t see this problem in our area or anywhere we go in TV and we walk/bike most days.

Velvet
01-31-2024, 12:01 PM
We just don’t see this problem in our area or anywhere we go in TV and we walk/bike most days.

What exactly don’t you see? The dog pooping on someone’s lawn or the owner getting upset about it at the exact time you ride by?

fdpaq0580
01-31-2024, 12:08 PM
There is no law in the State of Florida that states that a dog cannot walk on or “go” on the easement of properties. No one should feel fear or guilt when walking their dogs. A responsible owner picks up after their dogs. Poop does not destroy grass, nor will urine if just done once in one spot. When streets are too hot to walk on, the dog has to walk on the grass. Our realtor told us TV is dog friendly, and I truly believe it is—except for a few people.

Do you know what an easement is. It is an area on one's property that certain workers may use to perform work, like telephone, electrical, water, sewer, etc. Get it.
Now, what an easement is not. It is [NOT[/B] an area of one's yard that the general public can use. Our own it and maintain it and pay taxes on it. It is yours! Trespassers may be prosecuted (dog walkers beware. This means you).
The Villages is dog friendly, but not people friendly to Trespassers. No excuses. If the streets are too hot to walk on, then stay home or drive to one of the dog parks. You chose to have a dog. What you do with it is your concern. Don't involve your neighbors. Keep Off the Grass!

Dusty_Star
01-31-2024, 12:09 PM
If you think it is not a recurrent issue, do you think there would be so many threads with so many people posting about it?


I think it is nowhere near 'the biggest issue Villagers have to contend with'. I think it is not even a minor issue. I also noted that it is a completely, totally, non-existant problem in my neighborhood.

fdpaq0580
01-31-2024, 12:12 PM
Getting close. :a20:

NAH! Barely halfway there. Such fun!😁

fdpaq0580
01-31-2024, 12:21 PM
As a responsible dog owner I am in favor of your proposal. I am tired of picking up other dogs’ poop. Remember that it’s not the fault of the dog, it’s the fault of the owner.

Correct! Dog owners think we are dog haters. WRONG! Love dogs. Hate dog owners who abuse their neighbors by trespassing to use their yards as sewage dumps. Pick up does not absolve one of the trespass.

fdpaq0580
01-31-2024, 12:25 PM
I think it is nowhere near 'the biggest issue Villagers have to contend with'. I think it is not even a minor issue. I also noted that it is a completely, totally, non-existant problem in my neighborhood.

Lucky you! For others, like myself, it is a problem. It is trespass and abuse of neighbors. Every day there is dozens upon dozens of dog walkers that wander by. Most all let/encourage their dogs to explore our yard in hopes the scents will get them to pee or poop. Most all pick up, but the mood is broken while I look up from my meal to watch a dog (that shouldn't be there) hunched over crapping. And then the owner picks it up, looks around, then yanks the dog away from some new source of amusement it's nose has discovered. It is rude, crude and filthy.

Rapscallion St Croix
01-31-2024, 12:26 PM
The only workable solution is to return to dog food formulas of the 1950s. Back then, at least in the south, dog turds turned to benign pieces of chalk in a day or so.

Velvet
01-31-2024, 12:28 PM
Correct! Dog owners think we are dog haters. WRONG! Love dogs. Hate dog owners who abuse their neighbors by trespassing to use their yards as sewage dumps. Pick up does not absolve one of the trespass.

Absolutely correct! I am a dog owner for decades. And still I advocate against making your neighbors upset. In my case, my neighbors literally saved my life and are there for me years later. Your neighbors are the ones you can count on in case of an emergency, your children may be thousands of miles away as mine are, but the neighbors are there within minutes if you need them.

Jayhawk
01-31-2024, 12:54 PM
Lucky you! For others, like myself, it is a problem. It is trespass and abuse of neighbors. Every day there is dozens upon dozens of dog walkers that wander by. Most all let/encourage their dogs to explore our yard in hopes the scents will get them to pee or poop. Most all pick up, but the mood is broken while I look up from my meal to watch a dog (that shouldn't be there) hunched over crapping. And then the owner picks it up, looks around, then yanks the dog away from some new source of amusement it's nose has discovered. It is rude, crude and filthy.

Every day, at least 24 dogs go past your lawn, and MOST owners encourage them to go in your yard??

Wow! NOW I get it.

:rant-rave:

fdpaq0580
01-31-2024, 01:05 PM
Every day, at least 24 dogs go past your lawn, and MOST owners encourage them to go in your yard??

Wow! NOW I get it.

:rant-rave:

Yep. It is kind of like a tired parent taking their kid to a playground. Watching while they play on the swings or the jungle gym. Once they are done playing, parent picks up the discarded sweater then drags the kid home. Dozens per day. 365.

Velvet
01-31-2024, 05:55 PM
For me the solution was simple. My dogs went in my yard THEN they got a walk, as sort of a reward.

Byte1
02-01-2024, 06:59 AM
My neighbor got the picture after I left a copy of my lawn care bill at their home with a note saying, "since you get more enjoyment with your pet in my yard than I do, perhaps you won't mind paying this bill for the lawn treatment."

GoPacers
02-01-2024, 08:57 AM
Lucky you! For others, like myself, it is a problem. It is trespass and abuse of neighbors. Every day there is dozens upon dozens of dog walkers that wander by. Most all let/encourage their dogs to explore our yard in hopes the scents will get them to pee or poop. Most all pick up, but the mood is broken while I look up from my meal to watch a dog (that shouldn't be there) hunched over crapping. And then the owner picks it up, looks around, then yanks the dog away from some new source of amusement it's nose has discovered. It is rude, crude and filthy.

Why don't you read the Florida Trespass laws, ensure they apply to these obvious criminals and then have them arrested and put in jail. Problem solved and no need to do anything further. Once you put a few people in jail I'm sure the other nefarious dog owners will leave you alone. Just for fun, put up a counter on your wall tracking all the dog owners you have gotten arrested for trespassing.

fdpaq0580
02-01-2024, 09:44 AM
Why don't you read the Florida Trespass laws, ensure they apply to these obvious criminals and then have them arrested and put in jail. Problem solved and no need to do anything further. Once you put a few people in jail I'm sure the other nefarious dog owners will leave you alone. Just for fun, put up a counter on your wall tracking all the dog owners you have gotten arrested for trespassing.

Better still. Why don't the "criminals" , as you call them, just open their hearts and minds and realize they are disrespecting their neighbors and understand that dumping on the neighbors lawn is a choice they make. Most dog owners don't have a dog for the purpose of pizzing off their neighbors. And, most pizzed off neighbors don't want to have to confront a possible bully who will want to turn a simple request to stay off the grass into a fight. The home owner has every right to expect decent folks to stay out of their yards. The home owner is not the "bad guy" here.

tophcfa
02-01-2024, 09:52 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

That’s way too low tech. What’s needed is thermal heat sensors that detect the dog pooping and trigger an orbiting satellite to snap a picture of the dog walker which goes through facial recognition software to identify the perpetrator and then instantaneously debits their bank account for the appropriately calibrated fine based on the size and consistency of the poop.

fdpaq0580
02-01-2024, 09:53 AM
My neighbor got the picture after I left a copy of my lawn care bill at their home with a note saying, "since you get more enjoyment with your pet in my yard than I do, perhaps you won't mind paying this bill for the lawn treatment."

It is sad that you even had to to do that. I'm sure you didn't enjoy it. And I'm sure your neighbor didn't enjoy receiving it. Puts strain on a relationship.

fdpaq0580
02-01-2024, 09:58 AM
That’s way too low tech. What’s needed is thermal heat sensors that detect the dog pooping and trigger an orbiting satellite to snap a picture of the dog walker which goes through facial recognition software to identify the perpetrator and then instantaneously debits their bank account for the appropriately calibrated fine based on the size and consistency of the poop.

Awesome! Hit them where it hurts. 🙃

Byte1
02-01-2024, 12:50 PM
It is sad that you even had to to do that. I'm sure you didn't enjoy it. And I'm sure your neighbor didn't enjoy receiving it. Puts strain on a relationship.

Now, they walk their dog across the street and someone else gets to have fun with them. Like you said, "no respect." Personally, I don't need a "relationship" with a neighbor that has no "respect" for their neighborhood. I've had dog pets and working dogs for decades until I retired to the Villages. My dogs were trained to go to a set place on my property or the woods, and were happy animals. They were spoiled rotten, but were obedience trained. AND, I never-ever struck my animals. But, first a pet owner needs to be trained. Many in the Villages should not have pets. They are better off, just bird watching.

fdpaq0580
02-01-2024, 12:52 PM
Now, they walk their dog across the street and someone else gets to have fun with them. Like you said, "no respect." Personally, I don't need a "relationship" with a neighbor that has no "respect" for their neighborhood. I've had dog pets and working dogs for decades until I retired to the Villages. My dogs were trained to go to a set place on my property or the woods, and were happy animals. They were spoiled rotten, but were obedience trained. AND, I never-ever struck my animals. But, first a pet owner needs to be trained. Many in the Villages should not have pets. They are better off, just bird watching.

Agree!

Velvet
02-01-2024, 01:58 PM
Now, they walk their dog across the street and someone else gets to have fun with them. Like you said, "no respect." Personally, I don't need a "relationship" with a neighbor that has no "respect" for their neighborhood. I've had dog pets and working dogs for decades until I retired to the Villages. My dogs were trained to go to a set place on my property or the woods, and were happy animals. They were spoiled rotten, but were obedience trained. AND, I never-ever struck my animals. But, first a pet owner needs to be trained. Many in the Villages should not have pets. They are better off, just bird watching.

Yes, I agree. It is not worth having a relationship with selfish, narcissistic individuals. They operate in one mode only: Me!

DAVES
02-01-2024, 02:26 PM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

Far simpler. There are animal repellents.

fdpaq0580
02-01-2024, 08:22 PM
Far simpler. There are animal repellents.

Oh, you mean BB guns? Or chemicals? Personally, I thing the dogs are innocent victims of their owners. Rather repel the owner.

Taltarzac725
02-01-2024, 10:26 PM
Envy (2004 film - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy_(2004_film))

Someone should invent Vapoorize.

Nick is constantly coming up with crazy ideas to get rich quick, and when he invents Vapoorize, a spray that instantly disintegrates dog feces, he actually succeeds. As Nick's wealth continues to grow, so does Tim's envy, as he had initially scoffed at the idea and squandered an opportunity to invest and become mega-rich himself. Nick is blissfully unaware of Tim's envy, and his generosity only serves to make Tim more envious of him. Meanwhile, Nick's wife Natalie decides to run for state senate but is continually plagued by questions about her husband's product.

Bwanajim
02-06-2024, 05:22 PM
Seriously??????🙄

fdpaq0580
02-06-2024, 05:35 PM
Seriously??????🙄

Such fun!!

ronsroni
04-18-2024, 02:00 PM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)

Wow. Even thinking that ANY dog owners in TV are going to come out of pocket to fatten the coffers of a DNA company to identify and fine/flog/jail/ostracize a person is NUTS. Bottom line: did YOU witness the dog defecating, or did you simply “see” some feces and go crazy?
I have 2 dogs. There are poop bags in both carts, our car, our pockets. We do not allow our dogs to violate anyone’s lawns, AND, we pick feces up to dispose of it properly.
Now, doing DNA checks on EVERY SINGLE PERSON makes sense. I, on a daily basis, remove TRASH from MMP’s due to deliberate littering, stuff flying out of carts; wittingly and unwittingly. Let’s identify those folks and “lock them up”. It’s only fitting.
The absurdity of it all.

Shipping up to Boston
04-18-2024, 02:10 PM
We know where this will be going. I predict 125 posts.

S*it happens!
Your close....116 and counting.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 03:04 PM
I am compelled to comment....those two neighbors are a fraction of the majority of us responsible dog owners.

The irresponsible dog owners, isolated incidents, the less than 5% are presented similarly to a general condition.....which it is not!

So much for a crappy subject! :popcorn:

I, also, am compelled to comment. If you count yourself as a responsible pet owner like the two mentioned, then you never allow your pets to trespass on a neighbors yard to sniff, snoop, pee or poop. Right?

Shipping up to Boston
04-18-2024, 03:13 PM
Envy (2004 film - Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Envy_(2004_film))

Someone should invent Vapoorize.

Is this the same concept as the blue dye that releases when someone p*sses in the pool!

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 03:16 PM
Wow. Even thinking that ANY dog owners in TV are going to come out of pocket to fatten the coffers of a DNA company to identify and fine/flog/jail/ostracize a person is NUTS. Bottom line: did YOU witness the dog defecating, or did you simply “see” some feces and go crazy?
I have 2 dogs. There are poop bags in both carts, our car, our pockets. We do not allow our dogs to violate anyone’s lawns, AND, we pick feces up to dispose of it properly.
Now, doing DNA checks on EVERY SINGLE PERSON makes sense. I, on a daily basis, remove TRASH from MMP’s due to deliberate littering, stuff flying out of carts; wittingly and unwittingly. Let’s identify those folks and “lock them up”. It’s only fitting.
The absurdity of it all.

You don’t allow your dogs to "violare"anyone's lawns. Does the term "violate" in that sentence translate to "trespass"? If it doesn't, it should.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 03:25 PM
S*it happens!
Your close....116 and counting.

Yes. But it should never happen on a neighbors yard.

Pairadocs
04-18-2024, 03:26 PM
The problem starts when they allow their dog on another person’s property for any reason. Some people are intimidated by dogs that the owner does not seem to have under control. That is even before the dog poops on the lawn. I just don’t understand why people want to make their neighbors upset. There is no way I see a positive outcome.

Sometimes visitors aren’t told the rules and expectations, and sometimes quite innocently, they wonder why they are being shunned.There is a new neighbor in our neck of the woods. Lets dogs out indiscriminately. I think they were run out of the area they lived previously in TV and they’re not off to a good start so far.

It's just another of many many "tone deaf" issues people face in every neighborhood in every state. There's really no legal/law solution, it 's INSIDE PEOPLE. What comes into the mind of a pet owner, who exits their home with their pet, and does not walk it around their own property/yard, can't really be understood. This far from all pet owners, there is this certain thought process some call "elite", I call "tone deaf", others may just call it self focused. But if you are the type of person who will walk several blocks from your home yard, stand in the street, a either let a LONG leash out and urge your pet into the lawn of another, there really is nothing that is going to have you realize how wrong that actually is. There are people who will walk past homes in the wee hours and PICK UP someone else's newspaper and just keep walking ! It's a "mind set" and nothing on here, or anywhere, is going to make such people realize just how rude and insensitive such things are... same thing with people who will BOLDLY just set right in front of people in line, and refuse to leave when others protest !

Pairadocs
04-18-2024, 03:34 PM
It is sad that you even had to to do that. I'm sure you didn't enjoy it. And I'm sure your neighbor didn't enjoy receiving it. Puts strain on a relationship.

I have not taken pictures of the individual and her dogs who make our block their twice a day "deposit" ground, but I know of two neighbors who have. Maybe I'll join them, thinking about it, but like you commented, WHY to you have to explain to mature adults that it's just not what is done in a "civil" (?) society ? One neighbor put a TINY, actually cute, ceramic sign she bought at a craft fair in Mt. Dora. She put it near their front hedge, little heart, just said, PLEASE no pets. The villages security guy got it in less than a week of course.

Shipping up to Boston
04-18-2024, 03:35 PM
Yes, I agree. It is not worth having a relationship with selfish, narcissistic individuals. They operate in one mode only: Me!

Apparently you’re in the wrong place (ToTV)! ;)

As a lifelong dog owner, i’ll never understand where in someone’s psyching...that they allow their pet to launch a Cleveland Steamer on someone else’s property. Particularly a well maintained, manicured one. I like an earlier poster have always had a designated area on MY OWN property. Most that argue, at least subconsciously, that ‘your lawn is my lawn’ deserve the blowback you get on threads like this. One of my favorite scenes in the movie ‘Me, Myself and Irene’ is when Jim Carrey’ character, a RI State Trooper fed up with his neighbor (comedian Steve Sweeney’ character) dog sh*tting on his lawn and not picking it up......goes over to his house, drops his uniform pants a launches a ‘soft serve with walnuts’ on his property.
Moral of the story, those days are coming!

Pairadocs
04-18-2024, 03:39 PM
What exactly don’t you see? The dog pooping on someone’s lawn or the owner getting upset about it at the exact time you ride by?

Or, even for those who do pick it up but certainly do not want to take it back to their house, just ride by a mail station/pool this summer, you don't need to be close to catch the aroma ! You know, those waste reciprocals at the postal stations where the villages (I assume ?) posts very readable signs saying "NO FECES". Said it previously, those are just folks you can't change, it's something deep inside the thinking.

Pairadocs
04-18-2024, 03:56 PM
Picking up after your dog is NOT the issue. It is allowing the dog to use our lawn as a toilet. Sure, my neighbors pick up after their dog, but they don't/can't pick up urine. Those who say urine does not ruin grass are liars. My lawn is one of the greenest lawns in the neighborhood, except one BIG yellow spot that every dog stops and urinates next to my driveway. Neighbors have gotten the message that I don't want dog poop on my lawn, so they think I can't see them on the short strip of property next to the driveway. Normally, a dog urine does not yellow the grass, but when dog after dog uses the same spot over and over again, the urine kills the grass.
I mow my own lawn. I know there are some that don't pick up after their pet and some that can't see to get all of the poop up when they attempt to pick up after their animal. I get it, but I also don't appreciate stepping on the leftover and tracking it into the house. It is NOT unreasonable to have pride in one's property and it is not unreasonable for someone to respect other folk's property. I have owned and trained many dogs and I have never, ever allowed one to defecate on someone else's property. A dog can be taught very easily to go in one area. Some folks (many folks) should not own pets if they are not willing to learn how to care for them properly. Makes one wonder how they ever managed to raise their children if they cannot control their pets.
Rant? Yes, because some folks are too stupid to understand and/or respect other folks property. And keep your animals out of shopping carts. They do not belong there. Leave them at home. Surely, you can live a few minutes or an hour away from your pets.
You don't like my rant? I don't give a "poop." :cus:...:spoken:

It's a GREAT RANT because it actually is the most logical on here, It is NOT that people don't pick up the feces, it's HOW it enters their head to use someone else's LAWN when we all know they have their own, even in in a small villa, nearly all have some small area. We made the decision not to replace the dog we had when we moved here. She was 12, and lived here for two more years. When I first realized that there were so many people here to can not be separated from their dog for even grocery shopping, or a lunch out, it was something we'd never experienced. Neither of us had ever taken any of our dogs grocery shopping ! We were always tempted to take them when we went to the outdoor walk-up location of the Dairy Queen on a summer night, but our vet said NO WAY do dogs need, or should have, frozen custard... LOL...! It's puzzling people can be that insecure. I have a relative retired in another state who claims she HAS to take her dog everywhere, and I mean everywhere. She claims "he" won't even allow her to take a quick run to the hardware store or gas station without him ????? We know she does not have dementia, but "something" is surely not right I guess.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 03:58 PM
It's just another of many many "tone deaf" issues people face in every neighborhood in every state. There's really no legal/law solution, it 's INSIDE PEOPLE. What comes into the mind of a pet owner, who exits their home with their pet, and does not walk it around their own property/yard, can't really be understood. This far from all pet owners, there is this certain thought process some call "elite", I call "tone deaf", others may just call it self focused. But if you are the type of person who will walk several blocks from your home yard, stand in the street, a either let a LONG leash out and urge your pet into the lawn of another, there really is nothing that is going to have you realize how wrong that actually is. There are people who will walk past homes in the wee hours and PICK UP someone else's newspaper and just keep walking ! It's a "mind set" and nothing on here, or anywhere, is going to make such people realize just how rude and insensitive such things are... same thing with people who will BOLDLY just set right in front of people in line, and refuse to leave when others protest !

For trespass and depositing waste on another's property, there is a legal solution, but it can be tedious, tiresome and not without some expense. But, you are right about the mindset of the perps. They often pretend to not recognize or acknowledge their character flaws. Erogance, indifference, narcissism. And, when caught in the act, will play the innocent victim or will deflect with "but it's only a little dog". Yep, you are correct. Some people are just scum.

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 04:08 PM
It's a GREAT RANT because it actually is the most logical on here, It is NOT that people don't pick up the feces, it's HOW it enters their head to use someone else's LAWN when we all know they have their own, even in in a small villa, nearly all have some small area. We made the decision not to replace the dog we had when we moved here. She was 12, and lived here for two more years. When I first realized that there were so many people here to can not be separated from their dog for even grocery shopping, or a lunch out, it was something we'd never experienced. Neither of us had ever taken any of our dogs grocery shopping ! We were always tempted to take them when we went to the outdoor walk-up location of the Dairy Queen on a summer night, but our vet said NO WAY do dogs need, or should have, frozen custard... LOL...! It's puzzling people can be that insecure. I have a relative retired in another state who claims she HAS to take her dog everywhere, and I mean everywhere. She claims "he" won't even allow her to take a quick run to the hardware store or gas station without him ????? We know she does not have dementia, but "something" is surely not right I guess.

You guess? No! It is definitely not right! That level of insecurity is a mental/emotional disorder. If she thinks the dog is incharge, or she needs an emotional support animal, she is sick. Unfortunately, it is an all too common problem. Just because it is common, doesn't mean they are not sick. (like the common cold)

JMintzer
04-18-2024, 04:54 PM
I'm confused by this thread...

There are several people who've posted over and over and over who STILL haven't made their opinions clear...

Maybe if they post the same rant a few dozen more times, it'll become clear... :loco::loco::loco:

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 06:33 PM
I'm confused by this thread...

There are several people who've posted over and over and over who STILL haven't made their opinions clear...

Maybe if they post the same rant a few dozen more times, it'll become clear... :loco::loco::loco:

Dear JM,
Not sure what is confusing you. If it is the fact that so many, having likely read the rants but still fail to act like civil human beings by keeping off the neighbors yard, it is because those disrespectful s--threads are exactly that, disrespectful s--theads and are deserving of any animosity that comes their way as a result of the torment they inflict upon their neighbors through their trespassing.
If, on the other hand, you are confused by the continuing "rants", that is two-fold ( at least for me). First, I live in the hope of a day when I can look out my window without having my mea or snack interrupted by the sight of a neighbor urging his/her dog into my yard so I can watch as "phydoux" (pronounced "fido") decorates my lawn with the disgusting residue of kibble.
Secondly, I find the act of letting the dog owners who let their dogs trespass and, as one person called it, "violate"a neighbors property, have "both barrels", in a literary manner, somewhat cathartic

JMintzer
04-18-2024, 07:32 PM
Dear JM,
Not sure what is confusing you. If it is the fact that so many, having likely read the rants but still fail to act like civil human beings by keeping off the neighbors yard, it is because those disrespectful s--threads are exactly that, disrespectful s--theads and are deserving of any animosity that comes their way as a result of the torment they inflict upon their neighbors through their trespassing.
If, on the other hand, you are confused by the continuing "rants", that is two-fold ( at least for me). First, I live in the hope of a day when I can look out my window without having my mea or snack interrupted by the sight of a neighbor urging his/her dog into my yard so I can watch as "phydoux" (pronounced "fido") decorates my lawn with the disgusting residue of kibble.
Secondly, I find the act of letting the dog owners who let their dogs trespass and, as one person called it, "violate"a neighbors property, have "both barrels", in a literary manner, somewhat cathartic

Nope still not sure what you're talking about...

https://i.gifer.com/MOl0.gif

fdpaq0580
04-18-2024, 09:23 PM
Nope still not sure what you're talking about...

https://i.gifer.com/MOl0.gif

OK! Let's try "pidgin " English.
Me like doggie. Me no-likey mean man/woman bring doggie my yard for make poo/pee. Many man/women no like mean man/woman bring doggie to they homes make trespass. Make doggie pee/poo they yard. Want mean man/woman keep nice doggie, pee/]poo own home.

I haven't spoken pidgin for decades. Hope you got the jist of of it. í Ÿí» 

dhdallas
04-18-2024, 09:54 PM
Not this ridiculous idea AGAIN! This stupid idea was already shot down ages ago when it was first posted. It is not going to happen. No way. Fuhgeddaboudit!

Papa_lecki
04-19-2024, 06:50 AM
s*it happens!
Your close....116 and counting.

134

MrFlorida
04-19-2024, 07:54 AM
I just checked , it's not April 1st...

JMintzer
04-19-2024, 08:26 AM
OK! Let's try "pidgin " English.
Me like doggie. Me no-likey mean man/woman bring doggie my yard for make poo/pee. Many man/women no like mean man/woman bring doggie to they homes make trespass. Make doggie pee/poo they yard. Want mean man/woman keep nice doggie, pee/]poo own home.

I haven't spoken pidgin for decades. Hope you got the list of of it. đŸ« 

*jist...

I find it hysterical that you actually think I'm confused about this... :loco:

fdpaq0580
04-19-2024, 08:52 AM
*jist...

I find it hysterical that you actually think I'm confused about this... :loco:

List should have been just. I spend a lot of time correcting my auto-correct, but a few times it beats me.

If you got a laugh out of my responses, then I have succeeded. You are welcome.

By the way, you have been on TOTV longer than most, and weighed in on dog poo threads many times in the past. Do I really think you are confused, or am I taking the bait for the entertainment it provides?

JMintzer
04-19-2024, 08:57 AM
List should have been just. I spend a lot of time correcting my auto-correct, but a few times it beats me.

If you got a laugh out of my responses, then I have succeeded. You are welcome.

By the way, you have been on TOTV longer than most, and weighed in on dog poo threads many times in the past. Do I really think you are confused, or am I taking the bait for the entertainment it provides?

Nope, still should have been *jist...

And yes, you spend A LOT of time on ToTV complaining about dog poop...

How's that workin' out for ya'?

Shipping up to Boston
04-19-2024, 08:58 AM
This thread is starting to rival the 'Thread about nothing' in terms of staying power! Good stuff

JMintzer
04-19-2024, 09:03 AM
This thread is starting to rival the 'Thread about nothing' in terms of staying power! Good stuff

Nah, this is just a blip on the radar...

Eg_cruz
04-19-2024, 09:22 AM
One of the biggest issues Villagers have to contend with is folks not willing to pick up their dog feces. Whether it's ruining the esthetics or harming the environment, laziness of owner's responsibilities should not be permitted.

The Villages could easily implement the dog DNA program, like many apartment, condo, and other housing areas have done. Dog owners and renters would submit a dog saliva swab for each dog, and be registered in the company's database, and culprit samples are sent and analyzed. The owner would then be identified and fined. Repeat offenders would have an additional consequence. It's not rocket science.

There are several companies making MILLIONS because of this, and Villagers deserve this issue to be addressed. To cover initial costs, dog owners would pay a small fee at the time of swabbbing. This approach would likely be welcomed by the majority of Villagers. Those who might be opposed- well guess why?

Dog feces left all over is becoming an increasing problem. I hope the people and TV administrators begin to push for this type of program. Perhaps it could be voted on by residents by District, and start small and see how effective it is. Of course there are issues to work out, but what a good resolution. Google DNA Dog Poop companies- you will find success stories and how they operate in some communities. Check out this for starters.

Dog Poop DNA Testing: The Scoop On The Latest Trend To Apprehend Offending Owners (https://www.caninejournal.com/dog-poop-dna-testing/)
It 100% works

fdpaq0580
04-19-2024, 10:13 AM
It 100% works

Living is not easy with eyes closed! I keep bumping into walls, falling down stairs, and walking into the wrong restrooms.

fdpaq0580
04-19-2024, 10:28 AM
Nope, still should have been *jist...

And yes, you spend A LOT of time on ToTV complaining about dog poop...

How's that workin' out for ya'?

Pretty well, actually. I'm entertained. And I know the subject will continue to pop up fairly regularly, so I'm happy and ready to play "Keyboard Warrior". SUCH FUN!