You and the Dog You Rode In On

[bsloan1960]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

[D&BSmith]

Yup, I agree. Most of the dogs are just fine (love to say hello and pet if I can).

[Papa_lecki]

I am a dog owner, love dogs - but most dogs don’t belong at the squares. Not because of behavior, but because the dog is stressed from all the stimulus.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.


agree IF the anthropomorphic creatures can't behave ! Letterman stupid human . . .

[golfing eagles]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

Maybe their dog WAS the entertainment:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[ChicagoNative]

I don’t like Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive humans either. Most of the time I prefer dogs.������

[ThirdOfFive]

Looking at it from Rover's perspective (assuming he has one), you have to wonder if the dogs really enjoy things as described in the OP, or if they just sit silently (best case) and suffer through it. Those that can't or won't do that can cause a LOT of disruption. We saw a dog on a leash the Brownwood Farmer's Market a couple of weeks ago that seemed VERY nervous around the other dogs that were there. I remember thinking at the time that it would have been far kinder to just leave the dog at home for the duration of the market visit.

You see the same thing from time to time at stores. Publix has thankfully banned the practice but it isn't uncommon to see dogs in shopping carts, and a fair number of those, according to their body language, are fearful. You never know what a dog like that is going to do if the "fight or flight" reflex kicks in. A five-pound hairball isn't going to do much damage no matter what, but I've seen a couple of pretty good sized dogs in stores either on leashes or in the cart.

Think of the dog. I doubt very many of them are enjoying themselves in such situations, so be kind and leave Rover at home.

[dewilson58]

Love Dogs.

But the OP put a morning smile on my face.

:wave:

[Dusty_Star]

The squares are open to all. There is no way to know if the dogs were Villagers, they could have just been passing through & wanted to check it out. There is even less reason to suspect they participate in this forum.

[ThirdOfFive]

The squares are open to all. There is no way to know if the dogs were Villagers, they could have just been passing through & wanted to check it out. There is even less reason to suspect they participate in this forum.
True. But they WERE dogs.

[MX rider]

The squares are open to all. There is no way to know if the dogs were Villagers, they could have just been passing through & wanted to check it out. There is even less reason to suspect they participate in this forum.

Dogs don't belong at the squares, restaurants or stores regardless of where the owner lives! Stop assuming everyone loves your dog. Most people don't. And yes I'm a dog owner.

[Taltarzac725]

The squares are open to all. There is no way to know if the dogs were Villagers, they could have just been passing through & wanted to check it out. There is even less reason to suspect they participate in this forum.

It is an amusing thread.


My pooch does not like the Squares on their quietest days. Too much going on for his heightened senses.

[tophcfa]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

So, I’m guessing it’s safe to assume you won’t be attending the Mardi Paw festivities later this month at Lake Sumter Landing?

[JohnN]

I absolutely love dogs.
But I don't bring mine to the square, or the grocery store, or anywhere besides a dog park or the vet or for a walk.

[Chi-Town]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

Would guess that loud, sniveling, misbehaving, and disruptive are traits of the owner also.

[Michael G.]

In my old age dogs and kids are great, but please take them with you as you go out the door

[golfing eagles]

So, I’m guessing it’s safe to assume you won’t be attending the Mardi Paw festivities later this month at Lake Sumter Landing?

I'm guessing the OP is neither a dog owner nor dog :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:lover

[BrianL99]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.


Whether it's a dog or a child or an adult, disruptive behavior is just that.

Why didn't you say something to the person? I would, whether it was a dog, a child or the clown with the baton.

If whatever can't or is unwilling or unable to behave appropriately, don't just accept it, say something.

[bsloan1960]

Do I love dogs? Yes. Do I love poorly behaved dogs? No
Do I love children? Yes. Do I love spoiled children who act out? No
Do I love people? Yes. Do I love loud, obnoxious people? No

I'm guessing the OP is neither a dog owner nor dog :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:lover

[bsloan1960]

[QUOTE=BrianL99;2297569]
Why didn't you say something to the person? /QUOTE]

If I offer you $100 will you be willing to allow me to call you to come and "Say something" to the next owner of a disruptive dog in the Square?

I'm predicting the resulting reaction from the husband/wife dog owners will be well worth the money to me, and to the 200 or so surround people who will witness the resulting verbal and physical attack on you and anyone standing with you.

[JohnN]

[QUOTE=BrianL99;2297569]
Why didn't you say something to the person? /QUOTE]

If I offer you $100 will you be willing to allow me to call you to come and "Say something" to the next owner of a disruptive dog in the Square?

I'm predicting the resulting reaction from the husband/wife dog owners will be well worth the money to me, and to the 200 or so surround people who will witness the resulting verbal and physical attack on you and anyone standing with you.

in reality, do NOT go around confronting people. For one, you'll be confronting people many times per day and it'll wear you down. For two, half of those people will be crazy and carrying, and you'll get shot. It's not worth it.

If a problem at the square, tell one of the "square police", if somewhere else, tell someone who has authority and responsibility.

[RPDaly]

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[MightyDog]

Looking at it from Rover's perspective (assuming he has one), you have to wonder if the dogs really enjoy things as described in the OP, or if they just sit silently (best case) and suffer through it. Those that can't or won't do that can cause a LOT of disruption.

Think of the dog. I doubt very many of them are enjoying themselves in such situations, so be kind and leave Rover at home.
This is likely the most important point here. ^^^
Dogs don't vocalize or otherwise carry-on for no reason. They are simple creatures so, there is always a reason they are doing so.

As a dog owner for decades, I will venture what is an obvious guess and it is that the pitches and decibel level of the music is too much for some of them. Their ears/ hearing are different from ours and it may be absolutely painful for some dogs so, they are expressing their distress and are, essentially, asking for help. Why else would they vocalize and agitate? That's why.

[BrianL99]

Why don't you be a man about it next time and say it to the person's face next time you are at the Square. No? I didn't think so.

It's way easier to complain on the Internet.


[QUOTE=BrianL99;2297569]
Why didn't you say something to the person? /QUOTE]

If I offer you $100 will you be willing to allow me to call you to come and "Say something" to the next owner of a disruptive dog in the Square?

I'm predicting the resulting reaction from the husband/wife dog owners will be well worth the money to me, and to the 200 or so surround people who will witness the resulting verbal and physical attack on you and anyone standing with you.


Give me a number. I'll text you the next time I say something to someone who's got a dog or whatever, that's disruptive or causing problems.

[Velvet]

This is likely the most important point here. ^^^
Dogs don't vocalize or otherwise carry-on for no reason. They are simple creatures so, there is always a reason they are doing so.

As a dog owner for decades, I will venture what is an obvious guess and it is that the pitches and decibel level of the music is too much for some of them. Their ears/ hearing are different from ours and it may be absolutely painful for some dogs so, they are expressing their distress and are, essentially, asking for help. Why else would they vocalize and agitate? That's why.

I agree. In fact, I would go so far as to say much music actually hurts the dogs’ ears. Especially if it is loud. I used to think my Welsh terrier enjoyed barking along with us singing “Happy Birthday” as a family. But in fact, I was told he was barking/howling because his ears hurt (maybe we were singing really off key).

[BobnBev]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

Couldn't have said it better, myself.

[fdpaq0580]

Why don't you be a man about it next time and say it to the person's face next time you are at the Square. No? I didn't think so.

"Be a man" ? Are you nuts or trying to get someone else to start a fight. You must should de ashamed or evaluated. JMhO.

[fdpaq0580]

I agree. In fact, I would go so far as to say much music actually hurts the dogs’ ears. Especially if it is loud. I used to think my Welsh terrier enjoyed barking along with us singing “Happy Birthday” as a family. But in fact, I was told he was barking/howling because his ears hurt (maybe we were singing really off key).

Taking dogs to the Squares during the entertainment constitutes animals abuse, imho. Too much LOUD NOISE too much[IBSTIMULATION[/I], too much CONFUSION that they are forced to try and endure for the love of owner's who put their own wants ahead of the poor dogs needs. I pity the dog who is owned such fools.

[fdpaq0580]

I'm guessing the OP is neither a dog owner nor dog :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:lover

50/50 on your first guess.
100% on your second.
Pretty good.

[fdpaq0580]

[QUOTE=bsloan1960;2297583]

in reality, do NOT go around confronting people. For one, you'll be confronting people many times per day and it'll wear you down. For two, half of those people will be crazy and carrying, and you'll get shot. It's not worth it.

If a problem at the square, tell one of the "square police", if somewhere else, tell someone who has authority and responsibility.

Much wisdom show you!

[fdpaq0580]

Maybe their dog WAS the entertainment:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Who do you think books the acts, AGT?

[dhdallas]

I am a dog owner, love dogs - but most dogs don’t belong at the squares. Not because of behavior, but because the dog is stressed from all the stimulus.

Not "most dogs don't belong at the squares". Any & all dogs do not belong at the squares.

[fdpaq0580]

Not "most dogs don't belong at the squares". Any & all dogs do not belong at the squares.

Agree! For a different reason. Too many dogs are allowed to stretch their leashes when owners aren't actually paying attention. They can startle with a cold nose on someone's bare leg or wrap the leash around a leg, causing potential slips, trips, falls and spilled drinks. Yeah, all fun, until someone breaks a hip!

[simplesimonsaid]

Some music is not kind to dogs hearing
Play a harmonica near a dog and see what certain note pitches do to it.
Some of the screeching singers damage my poor ears, let alone a dogs.
Keep the dog at home.

[Topgun 1776]

Dogs don't belong at the squares, restaurants or stores regardless of where the owner lives! Stop assuming everyone loves your dog. Most people don't. And yes I'm a dog owner.

I'm a dog guy...100%. My dogs go with me everywhere that we can spend time together....but NOT with other humans around! Everyone else doesn't love your dog...you do...and that's all that matters. So many people wreck everyone else's time with their dogs milling about. IF OTHER PEOPLE are there....LEAVE THEM HOME!

[PersonOfInterest]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

While we're at it, maybe we can get the Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive People attending to stay home as well.

[Eg_cruz]

I am a dog owner, love dogs - but most dogs don’t belong at the squares. Not because of behavior, but because the dog is stressed from all the stimulus.
Thank you, it is simply not fair to put your dog through it

[GizmoWhiskers]

This is likely the most important point here. ^^^
Dogs don't vocalize or otherwise carry-on for no reason. They are simple creatures so, there is always a reason they are doing so.

As a dog owner for decades, I will venture what is an obvious guess and it is that the pitches and decibel level of the music is too much for some of them. Their ears/ hearing are different from ours and it may be absolutely painful for some dogs so, they are expressing their distress and are, essentially, asking for help. Why else would they vocalize and agitate? That's why.
Bingo! Sorry, this is not a clap clap clap for the OP...

I can think of many a human I would love to remove from an establishment... like hackeling, loud mouth blabbing people. I find the OP's long drawn out description of the dog to be a GONG in my ears! Makes me invision a mussle on a human not the dog after that dramatic regurgitation of over the top adjectives.

Humans screw up dogs. Don't be a hater on a dog who clearly did not want to be there.

As Cesar Millan would say:

"Rehabilitate dogs. TRAIN humans"!

I would add... including particular posters on totv.

[BrianL99]

Taking dogs to the Squares during the entertainment constitutes animals abuse, imho. Too much LOUD NOISE too much[IBSTIMULATION[/I], too much CONFUSION that they are forced to try and endure for the love of owner's who put their own wants ahead of the poor dogs needs. I pity the dog who is owned such fools.

I will venture what is an obvious guess and it is that the pitches and decibel level of the music is too much for some of them. Their ears/ hearing are different from ours and it may be absolutely painful for some dogs so, they are expressing their distress and are, essentially, asking for help. Why else would they vocalize and agitate? That's why.


Don't be a hater on a dog who clearly did not want to be there.

.

Why do so many folks presume to know what dogs are thinking and what they like or don't like?

The Villages seems to be haven for Dog Whisperers.

[banjobob]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

Totally agree, leave the dog at home most people do not want your pet to be with theing their dog into public places. m, at the squares ,groceries , restaurants,.What is with these owners ?

[Bellavita]

My dog is not loud or yipping yappy sniveling barking crying scrathings misbehaving or disruptive.
I will be bringing her to the square each time we go because she is part of our family.

Not all dogs are bad.


Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

[JGibson]

Maybe you're directing your anger at the wrong party.

Does TV allow dogs at the square? If they can ban smoking in the square I’m sure they can ban dogs in the square during entertainment.

You’ll be banging your head against the wall expecting people to practice common sense with their dogs.

So petitioning TV to ban dogs from the square would be a more viable solution. Opposed to nasty glaring and internet venting.

[PhilG]

Why didn't you comment to the owner at the time? Now you're just bitching.

[LuvNH]

Agree! For a different reason. Too many dogs are allowed to stretch their leashes when owners aren't actually paying attention. They can startle with a cold nose on someone's bare leg or wrap the leash around a leg, causing potential slips, trips, falls and spilled drinks. Yeah, all fun, until someone breaks a hip!

When this happens, that someone gets tangled up in a leash and breaks something, things will change and not until then. Dan Newlin and his ambulance chasers are out there just waiting for this type of accident to sue everyone, including the developer, for negligence.

[fdpaq0580]

Why do so many folks presume to know what dogs are thinking and what they like or don't like?

The Villages seems to be haven for Dog Whisperers.

Yes. It is nice that so many dog owners, former dog owners and animal lovers in general have paid attention to all the information on dogs, their sensitivity to sounds, scents, stimulation, focus, and other abilities and capabilities. It is also wonderful that these folks understand that dogs are not not little humans, and think rationally instead of emotionally, what dogs need as opposed to what owners want.

[fdpaq0580]

Why didn't you comment to the owner at the time? Now you're just bitching.

It is a dog thread, so "bitching" is appropriate, no?

[Girlcopper]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.
Totally agree. Leave the thing home!! You may think it’s cute and part of your family. To the rest of us, it’s an annoying nuisance. There’s a time and a place for an animal and a large gathering is not the,place

[Girlcopper]

Dogs don't belong at the squares, restaurants or stores regardless of where the owner lives! Stop assuming everyone loves your dog. Most people don't. And yes I'm a dog owner.
Very very well said. It gets quite annoying tripping over a dog in some stores when they run ahead of the owner who has it on a long leash. You love the dog? Great! Now leave it home because we don’t.

[ThirdOfFive]

Maybe you're directing your anger at the wrong party.

Does TV allow dogs at the square? If they can ban smoking in the square I’m sure they can ban dogs in the square during entertainment.

You’ll be banging your head against the wall expecting people to practice common sense with their dogs.

So petitioning TV to ban dogs from the square would be a more viable solution. Opposed to nasty glaring and internet venting.
I understand why some people feel that dogs do not belong at the squares. For the most part, exception to bona fide service dogs (not those "emotional support" critters), I agree. Nevertheless dogs at the squares (and also unfortunately in some stores as well) are a part of life in TV, and for the most part are pretty well-behaved. The squares are public property though, NOT owned by The Villages, so non-Villagers have the perfect right to be there.

After some clicking I found that Florida law is all over the place on dogs. For instance Marion County does not require that your dog be on a leash when out and about. Sumter county apparently does. One thing that seems to be in agreement though is that dogs that are unduly disruptive do not belong in public places: if owners of such dogs do not remove their dog they can be held in violation of the law. "Public nuisance animal shall also mean any dog that makes excessive noises that cause unreasonable annoyance, disturbance or discomfort to the neighbors. This includes but is not limited to continued or repeated howling, barking or whining, without provocation, with the exception of dogs housed at animal care establishments. The violation can be witnessed by an officer or documented in at least two (2) affidavits from individuals living or staying in separate residences within one thousand (1,000) feet of the dog's location. The affidavits must contain documentation of the times and dates of such nuisances, and must be documented by an animal control officer who will determine if there is probable cause to believe a violation has occurred".(Chapter 4, Animal Control: Chapter 4-7, Public Nuisance Animals). Additionally, Chapter 4-8 (Dangerous Animals) goes into a lot more detail. anyone who brings a dangerous animal to the squares and the animal injures another person or animal, that owner is going to be in for some significant legal trouble.

In other words, petitioning TV to remove or control dogs would be a fruitless exercise. But there ARE remedies under the law. I frequently see uniformed officers at the squares during performances. Approaching them and asking them to do their jobs, in the case of an obviously disruptive animal, should not be out of the question.

[BrianL99]

Maybe you're directing your anger at the wrong party.

Does TV allow dogs at the square? If they can ban smoking in the square I’m sure they can ban dogs in the square during entertainment.

You’ll be banging your head against the wall expecting people to practice common sense with their dogs.

So petitioning TV to ban dogs from the square would be a more viable solution. Opposed to nasty glaring and internet venting.

Perhaps you don't understand your neighborhood and how it works?

The Villages does not own the Squares and have no authority to ban anything.

[Jazzman]

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[Salty Dog]

You see the same thing from time to time at stores. Publix has thankfully banned the practice but it isn't uncommon to see dogs in shopping carts, and a fair number of those, according to their body language, are fearful. You never know what a dog like that is going to do if the "fight or flight" reflex kicks in. A five-pound hairball isn't going to do much damage no matter what, but I've seen a couple of pretty good sized dogs in stores either on leashes or in the cart.

I was at Publix the other day and a women had her toy sized dog with her. No way it was a service dog. She couldn't have missed the no dogs sign she walked by to enter the store. The manager was looking at her, but didn't say a word.

[ThirdOfFive]

I was at Publix the other day and a women had her toy sized dog with her. No way it was a service dog. She couldn't have missed the no dogs sign she walked by to enter the store. The manager was looking at her, but didn't say a word.
Yeah. Sort of business as usual. My thought when Publix implemented the "no dogs" policy was that it was implemented because of pressure. But they're not going to go out of their way to alienate people, including dog owners. Villagers, including dog owners, spend a lot of money at Publix, My guess is that had you said something to the manager, he or she would have done something about it, but absent an actual report (with the offending person still in the store) managers just might be encouraged to just look the other way.

[PennyAnn]

I feel exactly the same when I go into a nice restaurant to enjoy a quiet meal....and folks bring in their squealing, crying, obnoxious children who disrupt the whole place and ruin everyone else's meal. If you have one of those kids - please keep them at home. If you are out and they start - please take them home.

[airstreamingypsy]

Why do so many folks presume to know what dogs are thinking and what they like or don't like?

The Villages seems to be haven for Dog Whisperers.

I've had 17 dogs, from small (ugh) to the 80 pounder I have now. I feel like I know quite a bit about dogs, and I would bet there's not a dog anywhere it the world who would enjoy being on the squares from 5pm to 9pm.

I bring my dog lots of places, even sometimes to stores where he's welcome...... even though I could bring him to a square... I wouldn't. My present job in life is to keep him safe and happy, he would be neither at the squares......

[airstreamingypsy]

Yeah. Sort of business as usual. My thought when Publix implemented the "no dogs" policy was that it was implemented because of pressure. But they're not going to go out of their way to alienate people, including dog owners. Villagers, including dog owners, spend a lot of money at Publix, My guess is that had you said something to the manager, he or she would have done something about it, but absent an actual report (with the offending person still in the store) managers just might be encouraged to just look the other way.

Manager could have called the police, the woman would have had no idea who did..... even the person who posted could have. Maybe one arrest hits the online "news" and that would be the end of that. No one looks good in a mug shot.

[Tomptomp]

My dog is quiet ,polite, loving,beautiful, gentle, happy, smart, and is entitled to go with me to the squares if I choose to take him.
There are plenty of rules restricting certain behavior in the squares but keeping dogs out is not one of them.

[Bill14564]

Perhaps you don't understand your neighborhood and how it works?

The Villages does not own the Squares and have no authority to ban anything.

Who does own the squares?

The BCDD, SLCDD, and VCCDD? If so then is the property and roadways of the squares somehow different than the common area and roadways in Villa areas? The CDDs own those and do not treat those as "public property" so if the squares are owned by the CDDs are they also not "public property?" Do the controlling CDDs not have authority to institute any legal bans they choose?

The boards of the BCDD, SLCDD, and VCCDD (and all CDDs) are elected by the property owners in that area. Since these boards encompass commercial areas their boards are elected by the owners of the commercial properties. Since The Villages owns the commercial properties then The Villages elects the boards of the commercial areas. Therefore, couldn't it be said that effectively The Villages owns the squares since they alone elect the members of the boards for the CDDs that own the squares?

If The Villages controls the CDDs and the CDDs own the squares and the entity that owns the squares has the authority to make rules for the property they own then is it too much of a stretch to say The Villages has the authority to ban something at the squares? (saving seats, coolers, tables, vaping,..... dogs)

[sallyg]

Tell us how you really feel. Lol. I agree but not for the same reasons. Dogs should not be exposed to the loud music or the chaos of a congested square. In summer they should not be taken onto the hot pavement. Please, for the dog's sake, leave them at home.

[jimjamuser]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.
Just as an aside, i wonder if there were ANY loud, yipping, yapping, sniveling, snapping, scratching HUMANS there also? Maybe after the alcohol took effect?

[Taltarzac725]

Just as an aside, i wonder if there were ANY loud, yipping, yapping, sniveling, snapping, scratching HUMANS there also? Maybe after the alcohol took effect?

Probably a lot more of these in the human variety than with the canine one.

[krisbogey]

I agree. Their hearing is so much stronger than humans, the music and noise must be painful for dogs. I think it can be cruel to take them to the Square when the music is playing. It would be especially upsetting for puppies.

[Velvet]

While we're at it, maybe we can get the Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive People attending to stay home as well.

Why do I get the feeling that perhaps you thought TV was built for dogs instead of people?

[BrianL99]

Who does own the squares?

The BCDD, SLCDD, and VCCDD? If so then is the property and roadways of the squares somehow different than the common area and roadways in Villa areas? The CDDs own those and do not treat those as "public property" so if the squares are owned by the CDDs are they also not "public property?" Do the controlling CDDs not have authority to institute any legal bans they choose?

The boards of the BCDD, SLCDD, and VCCDD (and all CDDs) are elected by the property owners in that area. Since these boards encompass commercial areas their boards are elected by the owners of the commercial properties. Since The Villages owns the commercial properties then The Villages elects the boards of the commercial areas. Therefore, couldn't it be said that effectively The Villages owns the squares since they alone elect the members of the boards for the CDDs that own the squares?

If The Villages controls the CDDs and the CDDs own the squares and the entity that owns the squares has the authority to make rules for the property they own then is it too much of a stretch to say The Villages has the authority to ban something at the squares? (saving seats, coolers, tables, vaping,..... dogs)

The streets are all public, so I don't think the Developer nor the CDD's have any authority over the roads and sidewalks.

The actual entertainment areas (I believe) are owned by the CDD's (which in the case of the Squares, are effectively controlled by the Developer).

I suppose the CDD could ban almost anything they want in the actual entertainment areas (smoking), but a doubt a "pet ban" would be consistent with the commercial nature of the general area. After all, isn't the entire purpose of the entertainment areas, to drive people into the commercial areas?

I have a dog and occasionally bring him to the Square ... he loves it there and knows how to behave. I have total empathy for the complainers, although I don't think the problem is exclusive to dogs. I think it's a societal problem. Personally, I see more problems from obnoxious drunks, than pets.

[HORNET]

I love animals “ pets “ but I hate pet owners ! They think that there ANIMAL is something that others need to like. Went to Beef O Brady’s on Thursday, and a person came in with a dog ( not an aide animal) tied it to the bar stool, and the animal was a nuisance. Why don’t people worry about children like they do about their ANIMALS? Plus keep them off of others property and make them #### on their own yards!

[Fenster]

Totally agree!

[jimjamuser]

Yeah. Sort of business as usual. My thought when Publix implemented the "no dogs" policy was that it was implemented because of pressure. But they're not going to go out of their way to alienate people, including dog owners. Villagers, including dog owners, spend a lot of money at Publix, My guess is that had you said something to the manager, he or she would have done something about it, but absent an actual report (with the offending person still in the store) managers just might be encouraged to just look the other way.
This is the kind of thing that I personally hate ---------"gray areas" of society. A sign saying NO DOGS (not service animals) and a manager effectively saying something else - it is OK. Another "gray area" in the village is what the H___ is the top speed allowed for golf carts on the streets. It seems to be ANYWHERE between 15 and 40 mph.

[jimjamuser]

I've had 17 dogs, from small (ugh) to the 80 pounder I have now. I feel like I know quite a bit about dogs, and I would bet there's not a dog anywhere it the world who would enjoy being on the squares from 5pm to 9pm.

I bring my dog lots of places, even sometimes to stores where he's welcome...... even though I could bring him to a square... I wouldn't. My present job in life is to keep him safe and happy, he would be neither at the squares......
Sounds like you have a happy dog. I heard this recently, but I can't confirm that it is true. But supposedly there is a class somewhere (?) in the Villages to help dog owners understand "dog language" and what their pets are trying to tell them.

[jimjamuser]

Manager could have called the police, the woman would have had no idea who did..... even the person who posted could have. Maybe one arrest hits the online "news" and that would be the end of that. No one looks good in a mug shot.
I doubt that there is enough Police available here in The Villages to enforce dogs in Publix. They have more important problems to work on.

[MightyDog]

Why do so many folks presume to know what dogs are thinking and what they like or don't like?
Whoa. I'd be embarrassed about that question, if I were you. Brian is obviously not a dog owner or hasn't been a very observant one.

I explained it in Comment #23, as did ThirdofFive, before me. It is no more complicated than that.

[JMintzer]

Probably a lot more of these in the human variety than with the canine one.

Hang around any of the outside bars and you'll see/hear them... Cackling at their bad jokes, shouting over each other, screeching to their friends...

Oh, and the last time we took our pup for a ride in the golf cart (one of her favorite things to do...), we ended up at Brownwood to grab a Dole Whip at Island Poke.

We sat on a bench right across from the square as the band was playing and Maggie curled up in my lap and fell asleep... No whining, no yapping, no stress...

[JMintzer]

I love animals “ pets “ but I hate pet owners ! They think that there ANIMAL is something that others need to like. Went to Beef O Brady’s on Thursday, and a person came in with a dog ( not an aide animal) tied it to the bar stool, and the animal was a nuisance. Why don’t people worry about children like they do about their ANIMALS? Plus keep them off of others property and make them #### on their own yards!

And that dog shouldn't have been there...

Did you complain to the management, or just here?

BTW, did you get a corner booth?

[JMintzer]

I doubt that there is enough Police available here in The Villages to enforce dogs in Publix. They have more important problems to work on.

Like golf carts going 40 MPH?

[HORNET]

To the waitress, fell on deaf ears! Along with terrible food, took them off my dining list!

[golfing eagles]

I doubt that there is enough Police available here in The Villages to enforce dogs in Publix. They have more important problems to work on.

Wouldn't the same apply to golf carts going 22 or cars going 38 on Morse???

[jimjamuser]

Wouldn't the same apply to golf carts going 22 or cars going 38 on Morse???
Well, the difference would be that lives are at risk with MOVING vehicles on a roadway possibly crashing. If a puppy dog is shedding on the vegetables, that is certainly a problem of sanity, but NOT life and limb.
...........So, I would guess that the manager is the right person to handle the Publix situation. Leaving the Police to handle more EXTREME situations. In a way I wish that The Villages could afford to hire MORE Police and they would not have to PRIORITIZE which incidents to respond to.

[golfing eagles]

Well, the difference would be that lives are at risk with MOVING vehicles on a roadway possibly crashing. If a puppy dog is shedding on the vegetables, that is certainly a problem of sanity, but NOT life and limb.
...........So, I would guess that the manager is the right person to handle the Publix situation. Leaving the Police to handle more EXTREME situations. In a way I wish that The Villages could afford to hire MORE Police and they would not have to PRIORITIZE which incidents to respond to.

And if a 110lb Rottweiler rips your throat out your life is not at risk??? And a cart going 22 puts how many more lives at risk than a cart going 20???? Or a car "speeding" at 38 down BV is far, far more dangerous than one going 35, right???? Or more dangerous than a 90 year old that can't see over the steering wheel going 30????? It's OK, I like picking cherries also :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[fdpaq0580]

The streets are all public, so I don't think the Developer nor the CDD's have any authority over the roads and sidewalks.

The actual entertainment areas (I believe) are owned by the CDD's (which in the case of the Squares, are effectively controlled by the Developer).

I suppose the CDD could ban almost anything they want in the actual entertainment areas (smoking), but a doubt a "pet ban" would be consistent with the commercial nature of the general area. After all, isn't the entire purpose of the entertainment areas, to drive people into the commercial areas?

I have a dog and occasionally bring him to the Square ... he loves it there and knows how to behave. I have total empathy for the complainers, although I don't think the problem is exclusive to dogs. I think it's a societal problem. Personally, I see more problems from obnoxious drunks, than pets.

Dogs love their alpha. Given a choice I would wager they would choose home or going for a walk (where you are actually moving at a fair pace, side by side) than the square at their peak. But they never get to choose. And I'm sure the obnoxious drunks and other over anxious dogs are a couple more things your pet might prefer to avoid, you know, if they could choose.

[BrianL99]

Dogs love their alpha. Given a choice I would wager they would choose home or going for a walk (where you are actually moving at a fair pace, side by side) than the square at their peak. But they never get to choose. And I'm sure the obnoxious drunks and other over anxious dogs are a couple more things your pet might prefer to avoid, you know, if they could choose.

I'm glad you know my pet so well !

Any other advice on what he likes or doesn't like?

I mean ... should I change his food? Does he have any preference between Pork Bones and Beef Bones? Tennis balls or rubber balls, when he's at the park?

[fdpaq0580]

I'm glad you know my pet so well !

Any other advice on what he likes or doesn't like?

I mean ... should I change his food? Does he have any preference between Pork Bones and Beef Bones? Tennis balls or rubber balls, when he's at the park?

Your pet? No. I don't believe we've met. But I have had the opportunity to observe my own dogs along with many others. I believe that dogs would choose to run and chase, over the overwhelming hue and cry of the Squares at peak volume. Or a good rest with its pack after eating. Food? Meat! They aren't to picky. Most of all, if you are their pack leader, they are devoted to you and will suffer any indignity you put them through because their biggest joy is your approval.

[Topspinmo]

Yes Another dog post- move onto more stimulating reposts: Leave your horrible dog home! At Brownwood last night there was a Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog in attendance for the entertainment.

Then, two other Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dogs showed to visit with the first Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog.

Finally after about 20 people kept turning around and glaring at the owners they finally dragged it out of there. I assume they left not because of the glaring, but because they had enough music for one night.

To YOU- and only to YOU your horribly spoiled, misbehaving dog is a family member. To humans gathering with a large group of other humans your dog is an unwelcome irritation. Leave it home. We don't want your Loud Yipping, Yapping, Sniveling, Snapping, Barking, Crying, Scratching, Misbehaving, Disruptive Dog ruining the night we are having gathering with other humans.

I bet there more obnoxious misbehaving spoiled humans at squares than there are dogs. :oops:I agree square’s, grocery stores, and restaurants no place for dogs UNLESS they are seeing eye dogs for blind.

[j_vermilya]

and they never belong at restaurants. Never

[JGibson]

Perhaps you don't understand your neighborhood and how it works?

The Villages does not own the Squares and have no authority to ban anything.

Well, whoever owns or manages the Squares has a litany of rules announced before every performance like no seat-saving and no smoking including vaping.

So those same people have the authority to ban dogs inside the square.

[Girlcopper]

Manager could have called the police, the woman would have had no idea who did..... even the person who posted could have. Maybe one arrest hits the online "news" and that would be the end of that. No one looks good in a mug shot.
OMG. Another “ call the police comment”. Maybe they will arrive in a couple of days. That is a ridiculous low priority complaint and you’ll be lucky if they even entertain it. If you have a complaint, give it to the manager. It’s his job to enforce rules. A cop can’t make the dog leave. It’s not a law. It’s a business rule. The only way the cop can enforce anything is if the manager wants to dog n owner kicked out and trespassed. I seriously doubt it would go that far. Leave the cops out of the nonsense

[airstreamingypsy]

OMG. Another “ call the police comment”. Maybe they will arrive in a couple of days. That is a ridiculous low priority complaint and you’ll be lucky if they even entertain it. If you have a complaint, give it to the manager. It’s his job to enforce rules. A cop can’t make the dog leave. It’s not a law. It’s a business rule. The only way the cop can enforce anything is if the manager wants to dog n owner kicked out and trespassed. I seriously doubt it would go that far. Leave the cops out of the nonsense

Calm down, my thinking was... one person finds themselves on the online news source, it might discourage others.....

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, the difference would be that lives are at risk with MOVING vehicles on a roadway possibly crashing. If a puppy dog is shedding on the vegetables, that is certainly a problem of sanity, but NOT life and limb.
...........So, I would guess that the manager is the right person to handle the Publix situation. Leaving the Police to handle more EXTREME situations. In a way I wish that The Villages could afford to hire MORE Police and they would not have to PRIORITIZE which incidents to respond to.
The Villages does not have a police force.

[JWGifford]

And while we’re at it… please leave your loud yipping, yapping, sniveling, snapping, barking, crying, scratching grand children at home as well. 😂

[Taltarzac725]

And while we’re at it… please leave your loud yipping, yapping, sniveling, snapping, barking, crying, scratching grand children at home as well. 😂

I have usually found the children of visitors rather well behaved here in the Villages. There are exceptions. Some vandalism of bird houses at a place I used to frequent was probably done by teens. This was about ten years ago though.

[fdpaq0580]

Because he’s a keyboard warrior. Away from the keyboard he’s a whining, sniveling crybaby. Too scared to confront anyone.

YEAH! That's putting him in his place! (From your keyboard. 😉)

[JMintzer]

The Villages does not have a police force.

Well, they should get one!

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[Bilyclub]

Dogs are not allowed on the dance floor, though that is not always enforced.