ARC approvals

[Vermilion Villager]

I assume an ARC request is something like a variance request from the county or city.
I have a courtyard villa and in the deed restrictions it states there shall be a 5 foot setback from the concrete wall that is in the back yard. I would assume this would be for maintenance of the wall.
I am contemplating on putting a birdcage back there. Currently there is a concrete slab extending 8 feet from the house. From reading the restriction it looks like I can extend concrete slab all the way to the wall. I was hoping to extend the slab and birdcage to within two or 3 feet of the wall. Obviously I'm not going to do it under the table because the risk of tearing up a birdcage would be quite expensive.

What I'm wondering is has anyone tried anything like this and generally what are the chances of getting ARC approvals?

Also, generally at the county level you can talk to somebody in planning and zoning and they can give you a pretty good opinion of your chances of getting a variance. It is usually the county zoning person who stands before the committee and gives the recommendation one way or the other. I don't know if this is how they do it down here or not.

[retiredguy123]

I think the chance of ARC approving a waiver of the 5 foot setback requirement is very slim at best.

[PJ_Smiley]

You will need a county permit and ARC approval. Generally, the contractor will prepare plans, with the appropriate setbacks, and obtain the permit(s) and ARC approval. As far as I know, the setbacks are locked it stone. About 10 years ago, the Sumter County setback from back property line (wall) was 10 ft., but they changed it a few years ago to 5 ft. The setbacks are county. ARC has no say in setbacks, but they make sure that your construction project meets all deed restrictions and complies with neighborhood architectural elements.

[asianthree]

Your 5’ can’t contain any permanent structure. Inspection from what ever county and possible city will inspect prior to concrete pour. Our pool deck was 2.5” into 5’ inspector came called company to move footings. So I doubt you will get a variance for two inches much less 2 feet

[Topspinmo]

IMO most CYVs lucky to 10 yards of property around your house with all the setbacks and easements. IMO patio villas looks worse. I be very careful installing bird cage. One of several incidents over years guy bird cage about years ago 6” in back wall easement, after 10 or 20 years he had tear up bird cage. new resale owners might not know and get stuck fixing out of compliance from several previous owners?

If you make changes better make sure it’s approved and even then there changes still not in compliance. another instance was new resale owner concreted in the 1 foot easement against neighbor house wall thinking it was their property. Big no no, had to tear it out and put it back in compliance. Best not to put nothing in That 1 foot easement so it don’t damage you neighbors property which will be responsible for.

[Papa_lecki]

I assume an ARC request is something like a variance request from the county or city.
I am contemplating on putting a birdcage back there. Currently there is a concrete slab extending 8 feet from the house. From reading the restriction it looks like I can extend concrete slab all the way to the wall. I was hoping to extend the slab and birdcage to within two or 3 feet of the wall. Obviously I'm not going to do it under the table because the risk of tearing up a birdcage would be quite expensive.

ARC is more of a body to give yout he okay that you are working within your restrictions.
Not so much for a variance.
If they give you a set back variance, why not everyone?
It probably won’t get approved.

[RICH1]

i don't care if you are installing a 10x10 block patio or a shed , get the approval and do it correctly..it will cost you in the long run, when someone makes " that call" and turns you in.. They smile in your face , and stab you in the back! oh those Backstabbers..

[golfing eagles]

i don't care if you are installing a 10x10 block patio or a shed , get the approval and do it correctly..it will cost you in the long run, when someone makes " that call" and turns you in.. They smile in your face , and stab you in the back! oh those Backstabbers..

Also, make sure you see that ARC or county approval in writing---there are unscrupulous contractors out there that will lie about getting approval. While you're at it, demand to see their workman's comp and liability insurance as well.

[PoolBrews]

I assume an ARC request is something like a variance request from the county or city.
I have a courtyard villa and in the deed restrictions it states there shall be a 5 foot setback from the concrete wall that is in the back yard. I would assume this would be for maintenance of the wall.
I am contemplating on putting a birdcage back there. Currently there is a concrete slab extending 8 feet from the house. From reading the restriction it looks like I can extend concrete slab all the way to the wall. I was hoping to extend the slab and birdcage to within two or 3 feet of the wall. Obviously I'm not going to do it under the table because the risk of tearing up a birdcage would be quite expensive.

What I'm wondering is has anyone tried anything like this and generally what are the chances of getting ARC approvals?

Also, generally at the county level you can talk to somebody in planning and zoning and they can give you a pretty good opinion of your chances of getting a variance. It is usually the county zoning person who stands before the committee and gives the recommendation one way or the other. I don't know if this is how they do it down here or not.

An ARC request is not a variance request. It is a request to ensure that anything going in meets the deed restrictions. You will not get an approval for anything closer than 5'. As stated earlier, that is a county restriction, not ARC, and anything closer than 5' will be rejected by ARC. If the builder accidently gets closer than 5', the inspector will make them correct it.

[1009 wilder]

arc is bad get rid of it

[villager7591]

Zero chance.
ARC approval is more for things that are not addressed in the CDD rules online. But ARC will not allow variances to these CDD rules.

[golfing eagles]

arc is bad get rid of it

ARC is there to ensure that all modifications to a property fall within the deed restrictions THAT THE OWNER AGREED TO UPON PURCHASING THEIR HOME.. The best way to get rid of ARC is to move to a community without deed restrictions. Hope that the property there doesn't have 4 rusty cars up on blocks next door.

[CZN715]

They won’t waive the setback. I built a birdcage last year and extended the concrete patio. 5’ from the back wall, 2 ‘ feet from property line on one side and 12’ on the other side (where my gate is). I am in a courtyard villa .

[MikeN]

I’d be surprised if a contractor would do this knowing it would be declined by both ARC and the county

[arbajeda]

Doesn't cost anything to ask. All you get here are opinions and if they are wrong you will have to deal with the consequences.

[wbilbrey99@gmail.com]

Ask.

[Marathon Man]

I’d be surprised if a contractor would do this knowing it would be declined by both ARC and the county

I'm surprised that someone would be surprised. Happens regularly.

[PoolBrews]

IMO most CYVs lucky to 10 yards of property around your house with all the setbacks and easements. IMO patio villas looks worse. I be very careful installing bird cage. One of several incidents over years guy bird cage about years ago 6” in back wall easement, after 10 or 20 years he had tear up bird cage. new resale owners might not know and get stuck fixing out of compliance from several previous owners?

If you make changes better make sure it’s approved and even then there changes still not in compliance. another instance was new resale owner concreted in the 1 foot easement against neighbor house wall thinking it was their property. Big no no, had to tear it out and put it back in compliance. Best not to put nothing in That 1 foot easement so it don’t damage you neighbors property which will be responsible for.

I have a CYV and it has a huge backyard - big enough that I have a 1,300 sq ft birdcage and a 13x25 pool. I went to within 5' all the way around the backyard. The entire project was submitted to ARC and approved before any work was begun.

[TeresaE]

I assume an ARC request is something like a variance request from the county or city.
I have a courtyard villa and in the deed restrictions it states there shall be a 5 foot setback from the concrete wall that is in the back yard. I would assume this would be for maintenance of the wall.
I am contemplating on putting a birdcage back there. Currently there is a concrete slab extending 8 feet from the house. From reading the restriction it looks like I can extend concrete slab all the way to the wall. I was hoping to extend the slab and birdcage to within two or 3 feet of the wall. Obviously I'm not going to do it under the table because the risk of tearing up a birdcage would be quite expensive.

What I'm wondering is has anyone tried anything like this and generally what are the chances of getting ARC approvals?

Also, generally at the county level you can talk to somebody in planning and zoning and they can give you a pretty good opinion of your chances of getting a variance. It is usually the county zoning person who stands before the committee and gives the recommendation one way or the other. I don't know if this is how they do it down here or not.

I recommend you call Brian Terry Vinyl. They will handle the whole county permitting and ARC approval process for you. They did a fantastic job on our birdcage. And. They do not take a dime from you until the job is done to YOUR satisfaction. That’s right. No down payment.

[JRcorvette]

I am not sure why you would want a birdcage right up against the wall to begin with. It would feel awful claustrophobic!

[villagetinker]

I assume an ARC request is something like a variance request from the county or city.
I have a courtyard villa and in the deed restrictions it states there shall be a 5 foot setback from the concrete wall that is in the back yard. I would assume this would be for maintenance of the wall.
I am contemplating on putting a birdcage back there. Currently there is a concrete slab extending 8 feet from the house. From reading the restriction it looks like I can extend concrete slab all the way to the wall. I was hoping to extend the slab and birdcage to within two or 3 feet of the wall. Obviously I'm not going to do it under the table because the risk of tearing up a birdcage would be quite expensive.

What I'm wondering is has anyone tried anything like this and generally what are the chances of getting ARC approvals?

Also, generally at the county level you can talk to somebody in planning and zoning and they can give you a pretty good opinion of your chances of getting a variance. It is usually the county zoning person who stands before the committee and gives the recommendation one way or the other. I don't know if this is how they do it down here or not.

ARC approval is for generally any changes to the outside of the house or landscaping, please look at the paperwork you signed when you purchased your house. They will prevent you from installing a Purple birdcage with pink flamingos on the screening.
You can also call the county building/zoning department to determine if you can build in the area you are thinking about. If this is a new house, you should be able to get that actual house plans and the plat plan which will specifically show areas where you will NOT be allowed to build. I have 20 feet from our house to the road behind us, and NOTHING can be built or installed in this area. Be sure you research this before you proceed, and IMHO do NOT rely on a contractor to do this, you will end up being responsible in the end.

[TimeForChange]

I was in the ARC office one day. I was discussing a possible approval with them. I made a statement about a neighbors landscaping and the location as it was very close to the street, and I wanted the same. They said your neighbor is probably not in compliance because it can be no closer than 13.5 feet due to County easement. The lady said do you want to report him? I said no. A lady in the back said we are aware that 90% of changes to property after purchase from the developer are not in compliance but we can do nothing unless there is a complaint. I said so you're just a "complaint department"? She said "yes." Never depend on a contractor to do work that changes anything to the appearance of your home without seeing the approval in writing! Not even the installation of a flagpole or the painting of a driveway or the installation of pavers or curbing around a tree that was there when you purchased the property brand new!

[asianthree]

I’d be surprised if a contractor would do this knowing it would be declined by both ARC and the county

Landscape company can be the largest percentage that don’t mention ARC approval. You as the homeowner have to ask if they are submitting plans to ARC or should you as the homeowner.

If landscapers are credible, they will offer to submit, or give you the drawings to submit yourself. If they tell you it’s not needed Ask them to leave, it’s not who you want to do business with.

Any structure build, require permits, and inspections by what every county or city. We had to get approval from ARC, Sumter, and Wildwood, for structural projects.