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Mortal1
02-11-2024, 07:09 PM
If you decide you want to play golf then please do not depend on your friends to educate you on golf course etiquette. All "golfers" understand a beginners trepidation when playing their sport, pastime or just something to do. While executive etiquette might vary a small bit from legitimate (aka:championship)courses the individuals actions on the course vary little.

Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you. If you can see your tee shot(no matter how poor it may be)you play it(unless in the brush or water). If you tee up another and get(heaven forbid a hole-in-one)using the second tee shot it's really a 3, not a one. In fact if you hit more than one tee shot you are hitting your 3rd shot from the tee. If it went in the bushes or water then just drop another where you think it went into the "stuff" and call it your second shot(no it's not legal, but it's more like real golf).

Pick up your feet on the greens please. Thank you. Rake your bunkers, fix your pitch marks(when your ball makes a mark on the green). Put sand in your divots...not the divot...it doesn't grow.

Be ready to play.

You are allowed to drive up to any tee when groups are already there unless someone in that group is on the tee and getting ready to hit. You are not "pushing" the group in front by doing so.

You need to have music...use headphones. It's golf...not your car or house. Be considerate.

Don't stand behind me when I'm hitting. I don't care if you can't see where my shot goes....that's my job. If I need help seeing the ball I will ask for it.

CAP card: it only gives the person it's issued to the right to go to their ball(not their passenger unless they to have a CAP). If in doubt of the following just check the rules(yes I know there are those of you who are special and it doesn't apply...). Stay 30 feet(yes it's 30)from the green, bunkers and tees(when the golf cart path doesn't come that close). Please stop driving on the grass edges near the cart path. The path is plenty wide enough and if you have to drive around a cart do it on the non-course side if possible.

Stop taking turns when putting. It's SLOW. It's ready golf. When you are ready...go. The person farthest from the hole goes first(if all of you approach your balls at about the same time). That is an actual USGA golf rule. Yes, per etiquette you shouldn't step or walk in someone else's line of putting, but with the elderly(me included)that is truly impossible.

Please stop telling the new golfers what the etiquette is unless you have researched it first. Many of you are incorrect and just screw thing up.

From a 59 year golfer with many years competing as an amateur, professional greens mower, pin setter and all around golf geek.

Feel free to question my information. I'll be happy to apologize if I'm wrong or gladly set you straight if you are wrong.

Oh, and bouncing a golf ball and looking at its rebound height to determine if it's good or not is bogus. Balls come with various density innards and covers for different swings speeds. LUCK!

BrianL99
02-11-2024, 07:29 PM
CAP card: it only gives the person it's issued to the right to go to their ball(not their passenger unless they to have a CAP). If in doubt of the following just check the rules(yes I know there are those of you who are special and it doesn't apply...). Stay 30 feet(yes it's 30)from the green, bunkers and tees(when the golf cart path doesn't come that close). Please stop driving on the grass edges near the cart path. The path is plenty wide enough and if you have to drive around a cart do it on the non-course side if possible.



I understand the need for a CAP Card program and I wholeheartedly support the idea. That said, it's not a free pass to drive like an idiot or drive/park anywhere you please.

If a hole is Cart Path Only, that means CAP holders, too. Don't park in front of the Green. Don't drive between a Bunker and the Green. Do not park on a slope near the Green.

Bunny1
02-11-2024, 07:30 PM
Played with a twosome ahead of us that hit 2 balls each. We had to wait while they hit their 2 balls each. Also behind us group hit into us and never warned us or apologized. Let the ambassador know and he hopefully told them not to hit before we left the green!

RICH1
02-12-2024, 07:17 AM
The Mortal 1 is so spot on ! But unfortunately we are dealing with Entitlement, and a build up of Plaque in the Grey matter! These people really know how to push my buttons..They can ruin a nice day out on the course.

asianthree
02-12-2024, 08:01 AM
First my father never allowed a mulligan, he was old school and you play what you hit. But the advice that sticks in my head….

“If you hit that mulligan and it drops in the cup…It’s not a Hole in One”.

Counting it as a hole in one would be lack of respect to yourself.

ThirdOfFive
02-12-2024, 08:23 AM
I only play the executive courses so I don't have any direct experience with the etiquette (or lack of it) on the championship courses. I would imagine that breaches of etiquette are more common on the execs. Serious golfers are probably be more apt to be found on the championship courses. In my experience breaches of etiquette come in two forms: not knowing, and not caring. Both are seen on the execs.

Not knowing? Quite a few examples of that. For instance last fall I saw a guy take his pull-cart onto the green. We caught up to his group on the next tee and I made it a point to remind him (good-naturedly, of course) that doing so is not allowed and might bring down the wrath of the "Ambassador". He honestly didn't know, and thanked me for pointing that out. Another etiquette breach that is relatively common is not clearing the green area so that the group behind can hit. Had that happen on Chula Vista: One of the greens there (short hole...can't remember which one...#5, maybe?) lies within a few feet of the cart path. We were behind his group when it started to drizzle. They drove their carts off the path and parked under a tree adjacent to the green, apparently to wait out the drizzle, but stayed there when it stopped even after they could see that we were ready to tee off. I walked over to them and asked if they could clear the area, pointing out that a) it was dangerous to them to stay if we hit while they were there; and b) that the proper etiquette would be to clear the area and wait behind the group on the next tee. Again I was good-natured about it and prefaced it with a comment about Florida weather, and again, they had no idea that they SHOULDN'T be doing that; and again, I was thanked for my reminder.

Not caring? Where to start...unraked traps, smoldering cigarette butts next to the green, those little liquor bottles that didn't quite make it to the shrubbery where the person emptying it had chucked it, broken tees scattered in the tee boxes, gum wrappers on the cart path, some guy taking it upon himself to show another person in their group how to putt with the next tee empty by hitting a putt and then having the "student" hit a couple from the same sport, etc. etc.

Not knowing is fixable. And if done right you'll usually be thanked for fixing it. Not caring? There've been incidents of violence when someone's actions which may grossly violate proper golf etiquette are called to his/her attention by another golfer. I suppose it is all in how it is approached, but IMO those "ambassadors" could be doing a lot more reminding and correcting behavior than they are doing.

golfing eagles
02-12-2024, 08:31 AM
I only play the executive courses so I don't have any direct experience with the etiquette (or lack of it) on the championship courses. I would imagine that breaches of etiquette are more common on the execs. Serious golfers are probably be more apt to be found on the championship courses. In my experience breaches of etiquette come in two forms: not knowing, and not caring. Both are seen on the execs.

Not knowing? Quite a few examples of that. For instance last fall I saw a guy take his pull-cart onto the green. We caught up to his group on the next tee and I made it a point to remind him (good-naturedly, of course) that doing so is not allowed and might bring down the wrath of the "Ambassador". He honestly didn't know, and thanked me for pointing that out. Another etiquette breach that is relatively common is not clearing the green area so that the group behind can hit. Had that happen on Chula Vista: One of the greens there (short hole...can't remember which one...#5, maybe?) lies within a few feet of the cart path. We were behind his group when it started to drizzle. They drove their carts off the path and parked under a tree adjacent to the green, apparently to wait out the drizzle, but stayed there when it stopped even after they could see that we were ready to tee off. I walked over to them and asked if they could clear the area, pointing out that a) it was dangerous to them to stay if we hit while they were there; and b) that the proper etiquette would be to clear the area and wait behind the group on the next tee. Again I was good-natured about it and prefaced it with a comment about Florida weather, and again, they had no idea that they SHOULDN'T be doing that; and again, I was thanked for my reminder.

Not caring? Where to start...unraked traps, smoldering cigarette butts next to the green, those little liquor bottles that didn't quite make it to the shrubbery where the person emptying it had chucked it, broken tees scattered in the tee boxes, gum wrappers on the cart path, some guy taking it upon himself to show another person in their group how to putt with the next tee empty by hitting a putt and then having the "student" hit a couple from the same sport, etc. etc.

Not knowing is fixable. And if done right you'll usually be thanked for fixing it. Not caring? There've been incidents of violence when someone's actions which may grossly violate proper golf etiquette are called to his/her attention by another golfer. I suppose it is all in how it is approached, but IMO those "ambassadors" could be doing a lot more reminding and correcting behavior than they are doing.

Add to that linked groups congregating next to the last green waiting for 2, 3, or more groups behind to finish. Places where this is not only rude but dangerous---left of #9, Ft. Walton; right of #9 Killdeer; right of #9 Riley and many more. And groups that spend 2 minutes marking and debating scores next to the green. Oh, almost forgot----they sit there in 8 carts waiting and talking loudly while you're trying chip or putt. SHUT THE HECK UP!!!!!!, OR BETTER YET MOVE TO WHERE YOU SHOULD BE WAITING

GpaVader
02-12-2024, 08:59 AM
Pace of play is always an issue. Some of this comes from the fact that we live in a retirement community and people will take their time. We always try to get the first tee time in the morning, that way we don't have to wait for anyone but the grounds crew, we do have to wait sometimes because the starters will send out a buddy or accomplished golfer(s) ahead of us. IN most cases they get out and we never see them again, unless we catch them shagging balls out of the ponds.

We are casual golfers, we're not playing in a tournament or posting scores. Since most courses don't have a driving range or a place to hit balls before the round, we allow mulligan or breakfast ball. We allow one per round, but we keep the pace going. We played Gray Fox this weekend, got started and finished the first hole, saw the groups just pulling up to the first tee box, after that we didn't see anyone until we finished the 6th hole and they were 3 holes behind us.

As for standing behind you when you hit, yes normal etiquette unless you are playing with people with vision issues. Also, while I agree its your job to watch your ball it isn't always possible and if your not watching for other peoples balls you could be adding to the playing time, by having to look for the ball.

From my personal experience, the bigger issues come from not playing Ready Golf, walkers that don't know where to leave their bags, I guess drivers that don't know where to park and finally people playing from the Blacks when they should be playing from the Golds or Greens....

BrianL99
02-12-2024, 10:23 AM
From my personal experience, the bigger issues come from not playing Ready Golf, walkers that don't know where to leave their bags, I guess drivers that don't know where to park and finally people playing from the Blacks when they should be playing from the Golds or Greens....


I've played about 250 rounds of golf in TV, but only Championship courses. I have never seen anyone play from the Black Tees & I'm the only person I've ever seen, playing from the Gold Tees ... so I assume you're talking about Executive Courses?

From what I gather from the "Friendly Golf Recommendations", the Executive courses are designed for "friendly something", but i'm not sure I would call it "golf" as it's generally known. I don't think you can expect people playing Executive courses, to behave like they're on the PGA Tour ... more like a minor step up, from a group playing mini-golf at a beach resort.

golfing eagles
02-12-2024, 10:41 AM
I've played about 250 rounds of golf in TV, but only Championship courses. I have never seen anyone play from the Black Tees & I'm the only person I've ever seen, playing from the Gold Tees ... so I assume you're talking about Executive Courses?

From what I gather from the "Friendly Golf Recommendations", the Executive courses are designed for "friendly something", but i'm not sure I would call it "golf" as it's generally known. I don't think you can expect people playing Executive courses, to behave like they're on the PGA Tour ... more like a minor step up, from a group playing mini-golf at a beach resort.

I agree. I've played over 1,000 rounds, maybe even 2,000 rounds on the championship courses here. When my friend's son, a PGA pro comes to visit he drags me back to the black tees, but aside from that, I've only joined one threesome years ago that was playing the black. To call the tees on exec courses that add 15 yards to a 95 yard hole "black" is almost an oxymoron---well moronic at best. On the rare occasion I've played an exec, I'm amused at those that marvel at others who play the "black" tees----geez, it's not like teeing it up at 7600 yards at Torrey pines.

Along those lines, 2 years ago when my 11 year old granddaughter came to visit we played Palmetto. The starter, and I quote stated "This a difficult course, the girl might not be able to handle it from the front tees" My response---"She'll be playing the black tees with the rest of us". She shot 35 on par 29, only because she took a triple on one hole.

BrianL99
02-12-2024, 11:01 AM
I agree. I've played over 1,000 rounds, maybe even 2,000 rounds on the championship courses here. When my friend's son, a PGA pro comes to visit he drags me back to the black tees, but aside from that, I've only joined one threesome years ago that was playing the black. To call the tees on exec courses that add 15 yards to a 95 yard hole "black" is almost an oxymoron---well moronic at best. On the rare occasion I've played an exec, I'm amused at those that marvel at others who play the "black" tees----geez, it's not like teeing it up at 7600 yards at Torrey pines.

Along those lines, 2 years ago when my 11 year old granddaughter came to visit we played Palmetto. The starter, and I quote stated "This a difficult course, the girl might not be able to handle it from the front tees" My response---"She'll be playing the black tees with the rest of us". She shot 35 on par 29, only because she took a triple on one hole.

When you're playing in a golf environment, that puts your photo in the newspaper, because you made a "hole in one", playing a 55 yard hole at MickeyLee Pitch & Putt, you can't expect folks playing the free golf courses, are going to be attune to proper golf etiquette at Seminole CC.

I had an Ambassador ask me last week, on the 15th hole, how I was playing. I said, "I'm 3 over to here", he said "oh well, Triple Bogey isn't bad, this is a hard hole."

golfing eagles
02-12-2024, 11:07 AM
When you're playing in a golf environment, that puts your photo in the newspaper, because you made a "hole in one", playing a 55 yard hole at MickeyLee Pitch & Putt, you can't expect folks playing the free golf courses, are going to be attune to proper golf etiquette at Seminole CC.

I had an Ambassador ask me last week, on the 15th hole, how I was playing. I said, "I'm 3 over to here", he said "oh well, Triple Bogey isn't bad, this is a hard hole."

You forgot to mention that the 55 yd hole in one was with a driver :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

Not to mention the "knowledgeable" ambassador.

fdpaq0580
02-12-2024, 11:18 AM
When you're playing in a golf environment, that puts your photo in the newspaper, because you made a "hole in one", playing a 55 yard hole at MickeyLee Pitch & Putt, you can't expect folks playing the free golf courses, are going to be attune to proper golf etiquette at Seminole CC.

I had an Ambassador ask me last week, on the 15th hole, how I was playing. I said, "I'm 3 over to here", he said "oh well, Triple Bogey isn't bad, this is a hard hole."

LOL! Thanks for the giggle.

wisbad1
02-12-2024, 11:33 AM
If you decide you want to play golf then please do not depend on your friends to educate you on golf course etiquette. All "golfers" understand a beginners trepidation when playing their sport, pastime or just something to do. While executive etiquette might vary a small bit from legitimate (aka:championship)courses the individuals actions on the course vary little.

Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you. If you can see your tee shot(no matter how poor it may be)you play it(unless in the brush or water). If you tee up another and get(heaven forbid a hole-in-one)using the second tee shot it's really a 3, not a one. In fact if you hit more than one tee shot you are hitting your 3rd shot from the tee. If it went in the bushes or water then just drop another where you think it went into the "stuff" and call it your second shot(no it's not legal, but it's more like real golf).

Pick up your feet on the greens please. Thank you. Rake your bunkers, fix your pitch marks(when your ball makes a mark on the green). Put sand in your divots...not the divot...it doesn't grow.

Be ready to play.

You are allowed to drive up to any tee when groups are already there unless someone in that group is on the tee and getting ready to hit. You are not "pushing" the group in front by doing so.

You need to have music...use headphones. It's golf...not your car or house. Be considerate.

Don't stand behind me when I'm hitting. I don't care if you can't see where my shot goes....that's my job. If I need help seeing the ball I will ask for it.

CAP card: it only gives the person it's issued to the right to go to their ball(not their passenger unless they to have a CAP). If in doubt of the following just check the rules(yes I know there are those of you who are special and it doesn't apply...). Stay 30 feet(yes it's 30)from the green, bunkers and tees(when the golf cart path doesn't come that close). Please stop driving on the grass edges near the cart path. The path is plenty wide enough and if you have to drive around a cart do it on the non-course side if possible.

Stop taking turns when putting. It's SLOW. It's ready golf. When you are ready...go. The person farthest from the hole goes first(if all of you approach your balls at about the same time). That is an actual USGA golf rule. Yes, per etiquette you shouldn't step or walk in someone else's line of putting, but with the elderly(me included)that is truly impossible.

Please stop telling the new golfers what the etiquette is unless you have researched it first. Many of you are incorrect and just screw thing up.

From a 59 year golfer with many years competing as an amateur, professional greens mower, pin setter and all around golf geek.

Feel free to question my information. I'll be happy to apologize if I'm wrong or gladly set you straight if you are wrong.

Oh, and bouncing a golf ball and looking at its rebound height to determine if it's good or not is bogus. Balls come with various density innards and covers for different swings speeds. LUCK!
Please don’t play executive courses, they are so backed up you can hit 5 balls and still wait on the next hole. Go complain to the club house guy.

tophcfa
02-12-2024, 01:28 PM
When you're playing in a golf environment, that puts your photo in the newspaper, because you made a "hole in one", playing a 55 yard hole at MickeyLee Pitch & Putt, you can't expect folks playing the free golf courses are going to be attune to proper golf etiquette. "

Hell, they have reported holes in one at putting courses and last week they reported a hole in one at disc golf! Where will they end at discrediting the true accomplishment of a legitimate hole in one?

tophcfa
02-12-2024, 01:41 PM
If you decide you want to play golf then please do not depend on your friends to educate you on golf course etiquette. All "golfers" understand a beginners trepidation when playing their sport, pastime or just something to do. While executive etiquette might vary a small bit from legitimate (aka:championship)courses the individuals actions on the course vary little.

Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you. If you can see your tee shot(no matter how poor it may be)you play it(unless in the brush or water). If you tee up another and get(heaven forbid a hole-in-one)using the second tee shot it's really a 3, not a one. In fact if you hit more than one tee shot you are hitting your 3rd shot from the tee. If it went in the bushes or water then just drop another where you think it went into the "stuff" and call it your second shot(no it's not legal, but it's more like real golf).

Pick up your feet on the greens please. Thank you. Rake your bunkers, fix your pitch marks(when your ball makes a mark on the green). Put sand in your divots...not the divot...it doesn't grow.

Be ready to play.

You are allowed to drive up to any tee when groups are already there unless someone in that group is on the tee and getting ready to hit. You are not "pushing" the group in front by doing so.

You need to have music...use headphones. It's golf...not your car or house. Be considerate.

Don't stand behind me when I'm hitting. I don't care if you can't see where my shot goes....that's my job. If I need help seeing the ball I will ask for it.

CAP card: it only gives the person it's issued to the right to go to their ball(not their passenger unless they to have a CAP). If in doubt of the following just check the rules(yes I know there are those of you who are special and it doesn't apply...). Stay 30 feet(yes it's 30)from the green, bunkers and tees(when the golf cart path doesn't come that close). Please stop driving on the grass edges near the cart path. The path is plenty wide enough and if you have to drive around a cart do it on the non-course side if possible.

Stop taking turns when putting. It's SLOW. It's ready golf. When you are ready...go. The person farthest from the hole goes first(if all of you approach your balls at about the same time). That is an actual USGA golf rule. Yes, per etiquette you shouldn't step or walk in someone else's line of putting, but with the elderly(me included)that is truly impossible.

Please stop telling the new golfers what the etiquette is unless you have researched it first. Many of you are incorrect and just screw thing up.

From a 59 year golfer with many years competing as an amateur, professional greens mower, pin setter and all around golf geek.

Feel free to question my information. I'll be happy to apologize if I'm wrong or gladly set you straight if you are wrong.

Oh, and bouncing a golf ball and looking at its rebound height to determine if it's good or not is bogus. Balls come with various density innards and covers for different swings speeds. LUCK!

Are you talking about Executive or Championship golf in the Villages. In a perfect world, the theory is that etiquette should be the same regardless of the course type. In reality, one needs to accept the fact that free amateur hour golf etiquette is not going to be the same as playing a course where typically more experienced golfers are paying $75 per round.

A commonly accepted definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. For one’s golfing sanity in the Villages, it’s a very bad idea to play Executive golf frequently and expect to consistently witness proper etiquette (you’re lucky to observe it consistently on the Championship courses).

MrChip72
02-13-2024, 12:44 AM
Played with a twosome ahead of us that hit 2 balls each. We had to wait while they hit their 2 balls each. Also behind us group hit into us and never warned us or apologized. Let the ambassador know and he hopefully told them not to hit before we left the green!

I've had this happen to me playing in a twosome on the pitch and putts twice. To make matters worse, the twosome in front of us playing two balls each being terrible golfers sometimes losing all four of their teeshots between them.

ThirdOfFive
02-13-2024, 06:07 AM
Please don’t play executive courses, they are so backed up you can hit 5 balls and still wait on the next hole. Go complain to the club house guy.
Nobody plays the executive courses in The Villages any more. They're too crowded.

GizmoWhiskers
02-13-2024, 07:29 AM
The Mortal 1 is so spot on ! But unfortunately we are dealing with Entitlement, and a build up of Plaque in the Grey matter! These people really know how to push my buttons..They can ruin a nice day out on the course.
How about vacationing ABnB dream vacationers at one of the largest golf resorts in the u s now (thanks to .... ) un-educated in golf perfection like the rest of us on totv lol.

jerseyjoy
02-13-2024, 07:43 AM
Get a grip.

Brwne
02-13-2024, 08:32 AM
Nobody plays the executive courses in The Villages any more. They're too crowded.

On tap for our foursomes this week - De La Vista today; Hill Top tomorrow; Becall Thursday. We played Silver Lake, El Santiago and Richmond last week. Saturday we had 11 couples playing Okeechobee. We all live in a neighborhood surrounded by the Loblolly executive course. We are considerate of the players in front of us and behind us and we don't even keep score - but we definitely play "ready golf"! 4 years ago, we were slow, now we move with the flow.

Imagine, though, what the championship courses would be like if "free golf" on the 41 executive, three pitch & putt, and 4 putt & play courses didn't exist...

pearlsam
02-13-2024, 09:36 AM
Well written. NOBODY SHOULD be allowed to play golf unless they have attended GOOD GOLF SCHOOL. We all get tired of those that refuse to fix green ball marks and tramp through sand traps without raking them. Mark your score when you reach the next tee box.

SusanStCatherine
02-13-2024, 09:40 AM
What are the rules on the Pitch N Putts? I was golfing a Pitch in Putt. This was only my second time ever golfing what you may consider a course. We kept well ahead of the couple behind us all 18 holes. But we get to the last hole and went to get our balls out of the mud and shrubs where they landed from the initial shot. The man walked up to the tee without waiting a minute and screamed "We're waiting!" Seriously, be patient on a course that is meant for learning.

Hplaw
02-13-2024, 09:44 AM
"Nobody plays the executive courses anymore, they are too backed up" ; why a backup when nobody plays them?
For those fortunate enough to be full time residents or 6 month residents; please have a little tolerance for those of us visiting for a one or 2 month stay. We are there for a short time, wishing we were there longer. We are having a great time and may forget a few rules. We have been "scolded" and "schooled" by unpleasant full time residents. I apologize........you were once new too. We love to be able to experience just a short time in The Villages and hope to be there more.

BrianL99
02-13-2024, 10:00 AM
We have been "scolded" and "schooled" by unpleasant full time residents.



Do full-time residents where a name tag or uniform? How can you tell the full-time residents, from the short term renters?

LeRoySmith
02-13-2024, 11:54 AM
because you made a "hole in one", playing a 55 yard hole at MickeyLee Pitch & Putt

Wait a damed minute, I'm very proud of the hole in one I made at MickeyLee. The fact that it was in a different cup than the hole I was playing doesn't bother me a bit!

ThirdOfFive
02-13-2024, 12:04 PM
What are the rules on the Pitch N Putts? I was golfing a Pitch in Putt. This was only my second time ever golfing what you may consider a course. We kept well ahead of the couple behind us all 18 holes. But we get to the last hole and went to get our balls out of the mud and shrubs where they landed from the initial shot. The man walked up to the tee without waiting a minute and screamed "We're waiting!" Seriously, be patient on a course that is meant for learning.
I think the accepted rule of thumb is that you can spend no more than 5 minutes looking for your ball.

GpaVader
02-13-2024, 12:23 PM
Let's remember, its not free golf. We pay our amenity fee's and if you use your golf cart you have to pay trail fee's plus if you use the online app for making reservations, that also has a monthly fee....

golfing eagles
02-13-2024, 01:42 PM
I think the accepted rule of thumb is that you can spend no more than 5 minutes looking for your ball.

The time limit under the Rules of Golf is 3 minutes.

Two Bills
02-13-2024, 01:50 PM
Do full-time residents where a name tag or uniform? How can you tell the full-time residents, from the short term renters?

Basically, because full-timers are very quick to let you know, and many of them can't be bothered to rake or repair!

golfing eagles
02-13-2024, 01:59 PM
Well written. NOBODY SHOULD be allowed to play golf unless they have attended GOOD GOLF SCHOOL. We all get tired of those that refuse to fix green ball marks and tramp through sand traps without raking them. Mark your score when you reach the next tee box.

Nobody???? Let's see---Stewart Cink's mom lives here, if he wants to play a round he should have to go to good golf school first? Patrick Reed holds the course record at Havana---I doubt he would have played if Good Golf School was mandatory. I doubt any of our club or teaching pros have attended good golf school---make them???? And finally, I've played competitively for 55 years---You know where I think that suggestion should be "placed".

BrianL99
02-13-2024, 03:33 PM
I think the accepted rule of thumb is that you can spend no more than 5 minutes looking for your ball.

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Already answered.

rsimpson
02-13-2024, 03:59 PM
Mortal 1 Says - Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you.

I say - If I am waiting on every tee box for a group ahead of me, I will hit a "Mulligan" any time I want, sometimes even as a practice shot, and also encourage my playing partners to do the same if they desire. The Exec courses are for practive and fun play. My playing groups will NEVER be the hold-up on any golf course, as I will speed them up whenever necessary.

BrianL99
02-13-2024, 04:21 PM
Mortal 1 Says - Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you.

I say - If I am waiting on every tee box for a group ahead of me, I will hit a "Mulligan" any time I want, sometimes even as a practice shot, and also encourage my playing partners to do the same if they desire. The Exec courses are for practive and fun play. My playing groups will NEVER be the hold-up on any golf course, as I will speed them up whenever necessary.

There you go folks.

A perfect example of what everyone complains about.

golfing eagles
02-13-2024, 04:22 PM
Mortal 1 Says - Mulligans: not anywhere near a legit golf term. Many folks think they are perfectly within the code of etiquette to hit an extra tee shot or two from the teeing ground. Not true...especially if there is a group behind you.

I say - If I am waiting on every tee box for a group ahead of me, I will hit a "Mulligan" any time I want, sometimes even as a practice shot, and also encourage my playing partners to do the same if they desire. The Exec courses are for practive and fun play. My playing groups will NEVER be the hold-up on any golf course, as I will speed them up whenever necessary.

Well....... Mortal is right, proper etiquette does not include extra shots

This must not apply to everyone, because as just stated, some people view themselves as exceptions. Some might even use the term "entitled"

Topspinmo
02-13-2024, 05:58 PM
Golfers have etiquette? O that’s rare……

Velvet
02-13-2024, 06:10 PM
There you go folks.

A perfect example of what everyone complains about.

Not sure why they are complaining about it on the executive courses? If they are not holding up anyone, and staying in the allocated time for each hole, then why are other people concerned about it? New players make several mistakes, if they have the time to correct it with a Mulligan etc. why does it take the skin off anyone else’s nose? When my group is assigned a fourth player we are clear that some in the group are just learning and the individual can stay to play with us or leave. No one has ever left us and each “outsider” so far seems to have enjoyed our company. We try our best. That is what the executive courses were intended for.

golfing eagles
02-13-2024, 06:35 PM
Not sure why they are complaining about it on the executive courses? If they are not holding up anyone, and staying in the allocated time for each hole, then why are other people concerned about it? New players make several mistakes, if they have the time to correct it with a Mulligan etc. why does it take the skin off anyone else’s nose? When my group is assigned a fourth player we are clear that some in the group are just learning and the individual can stay to play with us or leave. No one has ever left us and each “outsider” so far seems to have enjoyed our company. We try our best. That is what the executive courses were intended for.

No, that’s what practice ranges are for

Velvet
02-13-2024, 06:39 PM
No, that’s what practice ranges are for

Practice ranges help to a certain extent, but to get better you need a golf course or at least a “junior” golf course such as the executive courses are. That is where you learn how to play the game, not just practice certain strokes, and the etiquette too. Well, at least in my opinion.

golfing eagles
02-13-2024, 06:43 PM
Practice ranges help to a certain extent, but to get better you need a golf course or at least a “junior” golf course such as the executive courses are. That is where you learn how to play the game, not just practice certain strokes, and the etiquette too. Well, at least in my opinion.

That’s where you get playing/ course experience, not practice swing/shots

Velvet
02-13-2024, 06:44 PM
That’s where you get playing/ course experience, not practice swing/shots

Yes.

BrianL99
02-13-2024, 07:38 PM
Not sure why they are complaining about it on the executive courses? If they are not holding up anyone, and staying in the allocated time for each hole, then why are other people concerned about it? New players make several mistakes, if they have the time to correct it with a Mulligan etc. why does it take the skin off anyone else’s nose? When my group is assigned a fourth player we are clear that some in the group are just learning and the individual can stay to play with us or leave. No one has ever left us and each “outsider” so far seems to have enjoyed our company. We try our best. That is what the executive courses were intended for.

Other are concerned about it, because all you don't know about golf, is coming through loud and clear. Folks who don't know anything about golf, seem to think their job on a golf course, is to stay ahead of the folks behind them. That's not the case. Your responsibility is to keep up to the folks in front of you ... not "play in an allotted time".

"When your group is assigned another player"? Get off your high horse and entitled attitude. Your group isn't "assigned" anything. You're playing a public course, that everyone has the exact same rights to, as you or your group. I'm sure the other players "assigned" to your group, go home and tell their friends about the "group he got stuck with".

If I was "assigned" to your group, the second you told me you were taking mulligans at will and using the golf course for "practice", I'd be on my way to see the head Professional at whatever Championship course managed the Exec you were on.

If you want to "practice" on a golf course, show up at 5:45 and just maybe, they'll be no one around to explain how golf courses operate. In the meantime, please reserve your practice for the driving ranges, that's what they're for.

Velvet
02-13-2024, 07:59 PM
Other are concerned about it, because all you don't know about golf, is coming through loud and clear. Folks who don't know anything about golf, seem to think their job on a golf course, is to stay ahead of the folks behind them. That's not the case. Your responsibility is to keep up to the folks in front of you ... not "play in an allotted time".

"When your group is assigned another player"? Get off your high horse and entitled attitude. Your group isn't "assigned" anything. You're playing a public course, that everyone has the exact same rights to, as you or your group. I'm sure the other players "assigned" to your group, go home and tell their friends about the "group he got stuck with".

If I was "assigned" to your group, the second you told me you were taking mulligans at will and using the golf course for "practice", I'd be on my way to see the head Professional at whatever Championship course managed the Exec you were on.

If you want to "practice" on a golf course, show up at 5:45 and just maybe, they'll be no one around to explain how golf courses operate. In the meantime, please reserve your practice for the driving ranges, that's what they're for.

The Villages courses were designed for Villagers and not the public so they are not public courses. Now we can argue what the definition of public is… lol… and my group tries not to upset our “guest” so to speak. Within reason we try to accommodate his/her wishes too. But we will not put up with bullying. And so far it has worked out, happily. Actually when I was a very beginner, I did get the last tee for the day regularly.

sowilts
02-14-2024, 07:44 AM
Not sure why they are complaining about it on the executive courses? If they are not holding up anyone, and staying in the allocated time for each hole, then why are other people concerned about it? New players make several mistakes, if they have the time to correct it with a Mulligan etc. why does it take the skin off anyone else’s nose? When my group is assigned a fourth player we are clear that some in the group are just learning and the individual can stay to play with us or leave. No one has ever left us and each “outsider” so far seems to have enjoyed our company. We try our best. That is what the executive courses were intended for.
Agree, difficult to obtain tee times and if one wants to play nine on the Championship Courses there are many open times from 7:28 to 8:00. Then one can take time to relax and not be rushed. If a group behind is playing faster increase your pace or let them play through.

ThirdOfFive
02-14-2024, 02:17 PM
Well....... Mortal is right, proper etiquette does not include extra shots

This must not apply to everyone, because as just stated, some people view themselves as exceptions. Some might even use the term "entitled"
Kinda like debating the spirit vs. the letter of the law.

IMO "etiquette" was developed over time so players do not unduly inconvenience other players by action or inaction, and players don't do things either neglectfully or intentionally that harms or takes away from the structure and attractiveness of the course or the general appearance of the people using it. I'm not going to get my undies in a bundle--even though technically it might be a violation of etiquette--if some guy in the group ahead of me hits a mulligan, or sashays on over to a water hazard to take a snapshot of a sunning gator, as long as the pace of play is not negatively affected by him doing so. Things like hitting a couple of balls out of a trap after the first shot goes awry and then not raking the trap, giving "putting lessons" on a green when the tee ahead is wide open, or other such transgressions obviously break the spirit as well as the letter, and would definitely merit something at least being said.