Super Bowl - "Black National Anthem" - WHY ??

[DALEPQ]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

[Randall55]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??Nothing wrong with justice for all. Nowadays, "for all" means much more to some. It is a cause they truly.believe in. I have never been a minority but I do my best to understand. I'm kinda proud the majority is not fighting them tooth and nail. It shows most of us are not the "bad guys" they seem to be fighting.

[Taltarzac725]

Black National Anthem: Lift Every Voice and Sing | Song lyrics (https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/02/11/sing-along-with-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-sing/)

It is about the ancestors of some of the African Americans. Probably of many watching the NFL as well.

[golfing eagles]

Black National Anthem: Lift Every Voice and Sing | Song lyrics (https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/02/11/sing-along-with-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-sing/)

It is about the ancestors of some of the African Americans. Probably of many watching the NFL as well.

So what. Call it a song and put it in the halftime show. It is not an equivalent to our one and only national anthem, and should not have any special status whatsoever, even though I like the song (music). The lyrics, such as "march on to victory", not so much.

[manaboutown]

Black National Anthem: Lift Every Voice and Sing | Song lyrics (https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/02/11/sing-along-with-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-sing/)

It is about the ancestors of some of the African Americans. Probably of many watching the NFL as well.

But it is NOT a National Anthem, it is just a pretty tune with some questionable divisive lyrics.

[dhdallas]

Black National Anthem: Lift Every Voice and Sing | Song lyrics (https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/02/11/sing-along-with-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-sing/)

It is about the ancestors of some of the African Americans. Probably of many watching the NFL as well.

My ancestors were from Germany. I want them to play Deutschland Über Alles for all the German-Americans! Think that will happen?

[manaboutown]

My ancestors were from Germany. I want them to play Deutschland Über Alles for all the German-Americans! Think that will happen?

Nein!

My ancestors were Swedish, German, English and Scottish. Those anthems would take a while.

[Taltarzac725]

My ancestors were from Germany. I want them to play Deutschland Über Alles for all the German-Americans! Think that will happen?

So are mine. At least on my father's side. Except for some skin heads I doubt if many people would want to hear that particular song. And my mother's side from her mother and grandmother etc. go back to the 1660s to Massachusetts. These are mainly English and Scottish.

The NFL gears its songs played to its main audience many of whom are of African-American ethnic background.

[tophcfa]

"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??
Totally agree.

[skarra]

I don't see any problem with it.

In fact, most of the players are black so it's perhaps appropriate that they play that song.

It may also be a good opportunity to become more open minded. Learn something new about other cultures.

Great game. They all seem to be close these days. I believe it had one of the highest audiences of all time.

[thomp679]

Why not? I thought those that opposed the Black National Anthem are the same that was opposed to kneeling. It was my understanding that the people with that view gave up watching the NFL so it shouldn't matter. Besides the Black national anthem was performed a half hour before kickoff and before the pregame show, which included America the Beautiful and then the National Anthem.

[Two Bills]

Get those with English ancestors to play the British National Anthem.
Our dirge is guaranteed to get the whole thing stopped on the grounds of health risk and brain damage.
Personally, I rather like the Russian Anthem.

[RICH1]

Often referred to as "The Black National Anthem," Lift Every Voice and Sing was a hymn written as a poem by NAACP leader James Weldon Johnson in 1900. His brother, John Rosamond Johnson (1873-1954), composed the music for the lyrics. A choir of 500 schoolchildren at the segregated Stanton School, where James Weldon Johnson was principal, first performed the song in public in Jacksonville, Florida to celebrate President Abraham Lincoln's birthday.

At the turn of the 20th century, Johnson's lyrics eloquently captured the solemn yet hopeful appeal for the liberty of Black Americans. Set against the religious invocation of God and the promise of freedom, the song was later adopted by NAACP and prominently used as a rallying cry during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and Often referred to as "The Black National Anthem," Lift Every Voice and Sing was a hymn written as a poem by NAACP leader James Weldon Johnson in 1900. His brother, John Rosamond Johnson (1873-1954), composed the music for the lyrics. A choir of 500 schoolchildren at the segregated Stanton School, where James Weldon Johnson was principal, first performed the song in public in Jacksonville, Florida to celebrate President Abraham Lincoln's birthday.

At the turn of the 20th century, Johnson's lyrics eloquently captured the solemn yet hopeful appeal for the liberty of Black Americans. Set against the religious invocation of God and the promise of freedom, the song was later adopted by NAACP and prominently used as a rallying cry during the Civil Rights Movement of the 1950s and 1960s.

[golfing eagles]

I don't see any problem with it.

In fact, most of the players are black so it's perhaps appropriate that they play that song.

It may also be a good opportunity to become more open minded. Learn something new about other cultures.

Great game. They all seem to be close these days. I believe it had one of the highest audiences of all time.

Absolutely no problem with them playing that SONG. Play it at halftime. Let the cheerleaders perform to it. DO NOT equate it with our ONE AND ONLY national anthem, DO NOT try to elevate it to something that it is not. I love CHOOSING to learn about "other cultures", but not having it shoved down my throat as a so-called "national anthem". I'm going to Africa in 6 months, will be sitting in at a school, having dinner with locals and learning about a DIFFERENT culture. THIS is America-we are supposed to be ONE NATION, we should not embrace division.

[Byte1]

I guess that those that have no problem with a "Black national anthem" being played in conjunction with the National Anthem, they shouldn't have a problem with "Dixie" being played also.
Personally, I enjoy "America the Beautiful" more than the current National Anthem, but that's just my preference. I'll still stand for the National Anthem, but I wont' stand for a divisive song with the intent to coddle a small group of supposed Americans that do not seem to wish to assimilate with the majority of Americans.
ONE anthem to encompass ALL Americans, or none at all. If you can't respect our flag and our Anthem, then don't be offended if one assumes that you are NOT an American.

[Bay Kid]

This is what the country is all about for the past few years. Division. Such a shame.

[ThirdOfFive]

Absolutely no problem with them playing that SONG. Play it at halftime. Let the cheerleaders perform to it. DO NOT equate it with our ONE AND ONLY national anthem, DO NOT try to elevate it to something that it is not. I love CHOOSING to learn about "other cultures", but not having it shoved down my throat as a so-called "national anthem". I'm going to Africa in 6 months, will be sitting in at a school, having dinner with locals and learning about a DIFFERENT culture. THIS is America-we are supposed to be ONE NATION, we should not embrace division.
Bingo! We're a melting pot, not a salad bowl.

Balkanizing America (which in effect is what this does) is diametrically opposite of "one and indivisible".

[Topspinmo]

Well, if majority don’t like it don’t buy tickets or watch NFL. That only way to send message. But, majority can’t give up there Friday night dreaming of pass like good old fashion fishing story. Majority are so gullible.:throwtomatoes:

[vintageogauge]

Well, let's see what happens at Daytona. Will there be 2?

[Bill14564]

Just wondering: Was it introduced Sunday as the Black National Anthem or as "Lift Every Voice and Sing?" Are posters choosing to be offended by something that DID NOT HAPPEN?

Yes, the song was performed, just as "America the Beautiful" and perhaps others were performed. That's great, it's boring sitting in the stands with nothing happening on the field and it's fun to be able to say you saw ______ performing.

My objection is to those who argue that *that* song shouldn't be played because it is sometimes labeled as the Black National Anthem. Get over yourselves, it's just a song. If you want to object to the label, so do I, but object to that and not the song itself.

I also have a problem with those complaining that those in attendance did not stand for the song when there is no reason why anyone should stand for that song. The same goes for those who argue that fans should stand when "God Bless the USA" is played. We have only one National Anthem, only one song where Americans as a group should be expected to stand and show respect.

Object to labeling the song in an attempt to elevate it and object to demands that it be shown a level of respect it has not earned. But don't invent reasons to be offended and don't demand that only *approved* songs can be performed.

[billethkid]

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[billethkid]

Absolutely no problem with them playing that SONG. Play it at halftime. Let the cheerleaders perform to it. DO NOT equate it with our ONE AND ONLY national anthem, DO NOT try to elevate it to something that it is not. I love CHOOSING to learn about "other cultures", but not having it shoved down my throat as a so-called "national anthem". I'm going to Africa in 6 months, will be sitting in at a school, having dinner with locals and learning about a DIFFERENT culture. THIS is America-we are supposed to be ONE NATION, we should not embrace division.

Spot on!

[Lottoguy]

Perhaps it was never called a Black National Anthem. Maybe someone called it that who wants to rock the boat?

[Stu from NYC]

We have one National Anthem and we all know what it is. The other is a song and I would sit quietly but would not get up for it.

[Lottoguy]

That is exactly my point I made. It's a song and because people see who is singing it goes out and gives it that title.

[fdpaq0580]

"Stairway to Heaven". Rock Anthem.

[Whitley]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??


Apparently, they want division. Different dorms, dances, proms and graduations. Separate dining halls. Different expectations. Only option may be to treat races differently. quite a 180 from when we were growing up.

[Whitley]

"Stairway to Heaven". Rock Anthem.

Never play it in a music store. I was at guitar center, and wanted to prove to my friend that the story about being thrown out if you play S.T.H. was just a lie. They asked me to leave. The entire store (they are large) got quiet and looked at me. By the 26th note, I was asked to leave.

[fdpaq0580]

Never play it in a music store. I was at guitar center, and wanted to prove to my friend that the story about being thrown out if you play S.T.H. was just a lie. They asked me to leave. The entire store (they are large) got quiet and looked at me. By the 26th note, I was asked to leave.

Oh, YES! Absolutely true. Seen it happen several times. You will be allowed back in, but don't, DON'T play Stairway to Heaven!
So funny!

[Whitley]

Why not? I thought those that opposed the Black National Anthem are the same that was opposed to kneeling. It was my understanding that the people with that view gave up watching the NFL so it shouldn't matter. Besides the Black national anthem was performed a half hour before kickoff and before the pregame show, which included America the Beautiful and then the National Anthem.

I really did not care, BUT your post made me think. If a group has an anthem for their nation, are there then two nations? I remember watching the Mets play the expos when I was a kid. Since they were two separate nations, two national anthems were played. Is that the case here? Will there be a black national flag? What next, separate dorms, dining halls, proms and graduations? (oh wait. That has happened)

[ThirdOfFive]

Apparently, they want division. Different dorms, dances, proms and graduations. Separate dining halls. Different expectations. Only option may be to treat races differently. quite a 180 from when we were growing up.
"Races"?

My wife is ethnic Thai, and she neither wants nor expects to be treated any differently than anyone else, based on that fact.

We have Thai, Filipino and Korean friends. Same thing applies.

[Taltarzac725]

"Races"?

My wife is ethnic Thai, and she neither wants nor expects to be treated any differently than anyone else, based on that fact.

We have Thai, Filipino and Korean friends. Same thing applies.

Nicely put. The NFL probably is showing the Black National Anthem for ratings and to appeal to many of its players as it probably addresses the issues they have had over their and their fathers, mothers, grandfathers, grandmothers, etc. lives.

I doubt if they want to be treated differently though in their everyday experiences. Just as fellow human beings with the rights and responsibilities of anyone else.

[fdpaq0580]

I really did not care, BUT your post made me think. If a group has an anthem for their nation, are there then two nations? I remember watching the Mets play the expos when I was a kid. Since they were two separate nations, two national anthems were played. Is that the case here? Will there be a black national flag? What next, separate dorms, dining halls, proms and graduations? (oh wait. That has happened)

Let's hope not. Imagine you could only eat one thing. No spices. No salt or pepper. Think of all the wonderful flavors you would miss out on. Same with people. If we separate then we miss out on all the friends and experiences we could have had. Variety IS the spice of life. Remember, an anthem is simply a song that holds significance for a group of people. Like hymn, not everyone sees its importance. But for a religious group it can hold special meaning. Same with any song.

[rustyp]

Why not call it a folk song instead of the black national anthem ? Same song - same lyrics - same message - less controversy. Our country's history of cultures relaying their messages has been through folk songs. I would like to know who had the authority to name the song the black "national" anthem. Is not congress the only authority that can declare a "national" anthem ?

March 3 1931
President Herbert Hoover signs a congressional act making “The Star-Spangled Banner” the official national anthem of the United States.

[fdpaq0580]

Why not call it a folk song instead of the black national anthem ? Same song - same lyrics - same message - less controversy. Our country's history of cultures relaying their messages has been through folk songs. I would like to know who had the authority to name the song the black "national" anthem. Is not congress the only authority that can declare a "national" anthem ?

I somewhat agree, but the "Black national anthem" is probably just an "aka" term, or "commonly referred to" term. As far as I know, this beautiful (jmho) song has no official standing as "national". But the term "anthem" indicates that it holds special meaning to a group of individuals. Folksong, hymn, whatever! I enjoy it.

[Bogie Shooter]

Shame on some of these posters……

[fdpaq0580]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??


For Latio "anthem", may I suggest La Bomda by Richie Valenz. For LGBTQ anthem, may I suggest I'm Coming Out by Diana Ross. Any others I can recommend for you? As to your "Why? In your title, may I offer, maybe as entertainment for the enjoyment of a variety of music lovers. Jmho!

[Byte1]

The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.

[Bill14564]

The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.

So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.

[Topspinmo]

"Stairway to Heaven". Rock Anthem.


AC/DC “long ways to top if want rock and roll”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z39Uqybcw

Bag pipes baby!!!!!:shrug:

[fdpaq0580]

The NFL stands for the "National Football League." We only have one(1) NATIONAL anthem. Either play the "NATIONAL anthem" or play nothing. Anything else should logically be reserved for halftime entertainment. Either you are AMERICAN, also known as being a U.S. citizen or you are not. If not, then why would any American wish to hear your divisive song given equal status? If you set a precedence then you are asking for a Latino, Asian, gender confused, etc. to demand equal time for a song of their choice. And by the way, this has NOTHING to do with equality.

It's not a "but, the song is really nice, or what difference does it make, or I don't like the wording of our National Anthem." If you were born in America or are Nationalized, you have only ONE National Anthem. Don't like it? Suck it up buttercup.

Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.

[Byte1]

So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.

I guess, it depends on whether or not the intent is to divide the country. It is customary for the National Anthem to be sung for the opening of our sports. I believe that several other countries do the same with their National Anthem. But gee, if it's all about "can't we all get along?" then by all means, break traditions by stomping all over them just to please a few and anger or disgust the rest. Like I said before, we can start the game an hour earlier and give everyone with an ethnic or diverse background a chance to entertain their little section of America. Perhaps we could even slip in a magic show or some dance routines. Why wait until the half-time? :1rotfl:

[fdpaq0580]

AC/DC “long ways to top if want rock and roll”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z39Uqybcw

Bag pipes baby!!!!!:shrug:

I'd love to hear Ozzie's Crazy Train played on the pipes! 🙃

[golfing eagles]

So no “America the Beautiful?” No “God Bless the USA” either? Or is there a physical and/or temporal boundary - not within twenty five minutes of start time or not within 100yds of mid-field?

Or maybe just accept that the complainers are going to find something to complain about - even if they have to make it up themselves. That being the case, ignore them and perform a nice, meaningful song.

I don't think anyone could make the case that "America the Beautiful" or "God Bless the USA" is divisive or the "anthem" of only one particular ethnic group. That's the boundry line.

[Byte1]

Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.

Not me. Just my two cents. I know how to change the channel and don't even have to leave my chair to do it, anymore. Great invention, that remote control. You might want to look up the meaning of "mountain over a molehill."
"Making a mountain out of a molehill is an idiom referring to over-reactive, histrionic behavior where a person makes too much of a minor issue. It seems to have come into existence in the 16th century"
By the way, some folks sacrificed a lot for the U.S. of A. and do not feel that our National Anthem is trivial issue.
On the other hand, just expressing my opinion which may not be worth two cents. Interesting subject and worthy of discussion.

[golfing eagles]

Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.

The person you were responding to is correct.

Plus, the original plan was to play this so-called black national anthem right after our ONE AND ONLY national anthem so that people would already be standing. They were afraid no one would get up and stand for it if played alone, and of course, they would be right. I don't see how that original plan could be viewed as anything other than an attempt to give it equal status. I think they were wise to alter that plan, it might have gotten ugly.

[Bill14564]

The person you were responding to is correct.

Plus, the original plan was to play this so-called black national anthem right after our ONE AND ONLY national anthem so that people would already be standing. They were afraid no one would get up and stand for it if played alone, and of course, they would be right. I don't see how that original plan could be viewed as anything other than an attempt to give it equal status. I think they were wise to alter that plan, it might have gotten ugly.

So that’s NOT what happened? Then where is the problem?

I strongly disagree that the song was intended to be divisive. I also strongly believe that it is only perceived as divisive by a small subset of the population that WANT there to be controversy.

It was not performed after the national anthem. It was not performed adjacent to the anthem. There was not an announcement to please rise and remove hats. It was not introduced as an anthem, rational or otherwise. Those ideas originated in this thread by those who want something to complain about. They got tired of Swift/Kelce and came up with something else. (at least that’s the least offensive reason I can think of)

[golfing eagles]

So that’s NOT what happened? Then where is the problem?

I strongly disagree that the song was intended to be divisive. I also strongly believe that it is only perceived as divisive by a small subset of the population that WANT there to be controversy.

It was not performed after the national anthem. It was not performed adjacent to the anthem. There was not an announcement to please rise and remove hats. It was not introduced as an anthem, rational or otherwise. Those ideas originated in this thread by those who want something to complain about. They got tired of Swift/Kelce and came up with something else. (at least that’s the least offensive reason I can think of)

Which is why I’m glad they changed the original plan

[JMintzer]

Bingo! We're a melting pot, not a salad bowl.

And quickly turning into a "bowl of granola"... What isn't fruits and nuts is flakes... (apologies to Gallagher...)

[JMintzer]

Oh, YES! Absolutely true. Seen it happen several times. You will be allowed back in, but don't, DON'T play Stairway to Heaven!
So funny!

Years ago, I was trying out an acoustic 12-String at my local music store. I started playing the opening riff of "Hotel California"...

My guitar guy said, "You know, that's the acoustic equivalent of "Stairway"..." :1rotfl:

[JMintzer]

AC/DC “long ways to top if want rock and roll”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9Z39Uqybcw

Bag pipes baby!!!!!:shrug:

Led Zep's "Stairway to Heaven" vs AC/DC's "Highway to Hell"...

Makes you wonder about the expected traffic patterns down the road... ;)

[JMintzer]

Where is it written that any song holds "equal status" with the Star Spangled Banner? I've never seen that. Your getting over wrought over nothing. Mountain over a molehill.

Wouldn't that would crush the molehill? :loco:

[JMintzer]

So that’s NOT what happened? Then where is the problem?

I strongly disagree that the song was intended to be divisive. I also strongly believe that it is only perceived as divisive by a small subset of the population that WANT there to be controversy.

It was not performed after the national anthem. It was not performed adjacent to the anthem. There was not an announcement to please rise and remove hats. It was not introduced as an anthem, rational or otherwise. Those ideas originated in this thread by those who want something to complain about. They got tired of Swift/Kelce and came up with something else. (at least that’s the least offensive reason I can think of)

Then why did they play it at the 2023 Superbowl, before they were an item?

[Bill14564]

Then why did they play it at the 2023 Superbowl, before they were an item?

Ohhh! *That's* what you are referring to!

Those who want to complain got tired of complaining about Swift/Kelce and created another issue to complain about.

Now you have me interested in what was happening at the time that led to the song being played at the superbowl.

[JMintzer]

Ohhh! *That's* what you are referring to!

Those who want to complain got tired of complaining about Swift/Kelce and created another issue to complain about.

Now you have me interested in what was happening at the time that led to the song being played at the superbowl.

My guess is that the SuperBowl was happening at that time... :D

[Bogie Shooter]

The person you were responding to is correct.

Plus, the original plan was to play this so-called black national anthem right after our ONE AND ONLY national anthem so that people would already be standing. They were afraid no one would get up and stand for it if played alone, and of course, they would be right. I don't see how that original plan could be viewed as anything other than an attempt to give it equal status. I think they were wise to alter that plan, it might have gotten ugly.

Not trying to be a pia, who are the “they” you refer to? I missed the dialog/explanation.

[JMintzer]

Not trying to be a pia, who are the “they” you refer to? I missed the dialog/explanation.

Methinks "they" are the powers that be in the NFL...

[golfing eagles]

Not trying to be a pia, who are the “they” you refer to? I missed the dialog/explanation.

Whoever is in charge of the superbowl program schedule and content

[MightyDog]

I thought it started about eight years ago.
No, it started in earnest in 2008 and then kicked fiercely into overdrive after 2012. I remember it very well.

IMO, it is simply not possible that anyone who is middle-aged and older and follows American life, culture and politics didn't notice that massive shift around those times. Prior to that, most everything was moving along well regarding racial progress and harmony in the USA and had been for decades.

I feel badly for teens and young adults today because they wouldn't know that. ^^^ All of their young lives have been in the midst of whipped-up and engineered "racial division", the majority of which is false.

[Pairadocs]

My ancestors were from Germany. I want them to play Deutschland Berber Alles for all the German-Americans! Think that will happen?

Okay, our ancestors too were originally from Germany, both sides of the family. So, like one poster on here said, include Deutschland Berber Alles in the half time "show", call it another song, do a whole costumed choreographed number, but don't call it our "national anthem". Do Danny Boy, that's nearly an Irish "anthem", O Solo Mio, let's have a true international super bowl half time show, but ONE national anthem for our country ! Once all American Mexicans, Italians, Irish, Germans, Africans, LGBT etc., our entire mix of "roots" has their own personal national anthem played at every Olympic medal ceremony you know what ? We are NOT going to get to see many events, it's all going to be "anthems" !

[Pairadocs]

I guess, it depends on whether or not the intent is to divide the country. It is customary for the National Anthem to be sung for the opening of our sports. I believe that several other countries do the same with their National Anthem. But gee, if it's all about "can't we all get along?" then by all means, break traditions by stomping all over them just to please a few and anger or disgust the rest. Like I said before, we can start the game an hour earlier and give everyone with an ethnic or diverse background a chance to entertain their little section of America. Perhaps we could even slip in a magic show or some dance routines. Why wait until the half-time? :1rotfl:

Agree perhaps all public sporting events could just begin an hour or more earlier, and everyone who feels allegiance to some alternative "national anthem" could be accommodated. But, perhaps even better idea (?) because so many people have such restrictions on arrival time (work over, after school, meal times, etc.) that might be difficult to change. Why not just add everyone's anthem to the end of the evening... and all who would like to hear them all, or just some of them, or one of them, could just stay after the baseball, football, hockey, soccer, etc. game. ADDED VALUE, the perfect solution to after game traffic jams, thousands of people will NOT be trying to leave at one time !

[MightyDog]

Once all American Mexicans, Italians, Irish, Germans, Africans, LGBT etc., our entire mix of "roots" has their own personal national anthem played at every Olympic medal ceremony you know what ? We are NOT going to get to see many events, it's all going to be "anthems" !
More importantly, that ^^^ would accentuate division rather than unity.

We all know America is a land of many cultures since all the original settlers were immigrants from various foreign places. That has been an important part of the rich fabric of the United States. People celebrated their unique cultures in their own families and enclaves and maybe had their own parade or festival once a year in certain cities.

But, the immigrants understood that they were in America now and didn't try insist their culture/ethnicity be recognized at national events. That was to be a time of unity, of celebrating our shared America. It should stay that way because it worked.

Those who don't grasp the intended disunity playing-out in many facets of our country for awhile now haven't been paying attention.

[Bill14564]

...
But, the immigrants understood that they were in America now and didn't try insist their culture/ethnicity be recognized at national events. That was to be a time of unity, of celebrating our shared America. It should stay that way because it worked.

Those who don't grasp the intended disunity playing-out in many facets of our country for awhile now haven't been paying attention.

I have a strong suspicion that we would disagree on the root cause and the main instigators of your the intended disunity

[fdpaq0580]

Not me. Just my two cents. I know how to change the channel and don't even have to leave my chair to do it, anymore. Great invention, that remote control. You might want to look up the meaning of "mountain over a molehill."
"Making a mountain out of a molehill is an idiom referring to over-reactive, histrionic behavior where a person makes too much of a minor issue. It seems to have come into existence in the 16th century"
By the way, some folks sacrificed a lot for the U.S. of A. and do not feel that our National Anthem is trivial issue.
On the other hand, just expressing my opinion which may not be worth two cents. Interesting subject and worthy of discussion.

To me, our national anthem is not trivial. Nor is our flag. Many sacrificed. I gave my country 6 of my best years and my country used me as it saw fit. Some gave more. Some gave less. Some gave everything. Some gave nothing. I stand for the Star Spangled Banner. I salute the flag. But, before the official proceedings begin, or even after they begin, if the event organizers feel it adds to the proceedings by having an invocation, spiritual music, or just additional entertainment, that is fine by me. I respect that not all my American brothers and sisters don't share my beliefs, and that is fine. Let the music play. Jmho.

[fdpaq0580]

But, the immigrants understood that they were in America now and didn't try insist their culture/ethnicity be recognized at national events. That was to be a time of unity, of celebrating our shared America. It should stay that way because it worked..

Actually, the first settlers most likely did not know they were in America. Remember the first settlers? We call them [B]NativeAmericans./B] Just a point to ponder when discussing cultures to be recognized.

[blueash]

The person you were responding to is correct.

Plus, the original plan was to play this so-called black national anthem right after our ONE AND ONLY national anthem so that people would already be standing. They were afraid no one would get up and stand for it if played alone, and of course, they would be right. I don't see how that original plan could be viewed as anything other than an attempt to give it equal status. I think they were wise to alter that plan, it might have gotten ugly.

I wonder where you read/heard that the plan was to have the Black anthem after the Star SB? It has never been done that way and I find absolutely nothing substantiating your claim. I am sure you have found the source and I would like to read the evidence.

Now tell me how it would get ugly? Would real Americans feel the need to riot in the stands? 2nd Amendment solutions? Boo the Black song?

Do real Americans get ugly when the play Oh Canada at hockey games? Do people in Western Canada get outraged at the French lyrics in that song even though French is not part of their local history? Should the 30% of Americans who identify as "none" religion get ugly at God Bless America?

By the way, there is no rule or tradition suggesting that people should stand for Lift Every Voice, although some may choose to do so. There is also nothing to suggest that people should stand for God Bless America or any other song other than the SBB.

Patriotism should not be confused with nativism or who does or does not stand for any song.

[golfing eagles]

I wonder where you read/heard that the plan was to have the Black anthem after the Star SB? It has never been done that way and I find absolutely nothing substantiating your claim. I am sure you have found the source and I would like to read the evidence.

Now tell me how it would get ugly? Would real Americans feel the need to riot in the stands? 2nd Amendment solutions? Boo the Black song?

Do real Americans get ugly when the play Oh Canada at hockey games? Do people in Western Canada get outraged at the French lyrics in that song even though French is not part of their local history? Should the 30% of Americans who identify as "none" religion get ugly at God Bless America?

By the way, there is no rule or tradition suggesting that people should stand for Lift Every Voice, although some may choose to do so. There is also nothing to suggest that people should stand for God Bless America or any other song other than the SBB.

Patriotism should not be confused with nativism or who does or does not stand for any song.

I'll look for the citation. Meanwhile, I was afraid that it might get booed or worse and was happy they changed their minds. I like the song as well, I just don't feel it should be a "national anthem" for any American

Here is the text:


The Super Bowl Will Again Feature Two 'National Anthems'
COMMENTARY
By Dennis PagerFebruary 06, 2024
The Super Bowl Will Again Feature Two 'National Anthems'FR170650 AP
This coming Sunday, at the most widely viewed sporting event in America, the Super Bowl, the National Football League will feature the singing of "Lift Every Voice and Sing," the song first known as the "Negro national anthem" and now known as the "black national anthem."

In order to ensure that those present at the game and the more than 100 million people watching on television cannot avoid hearing it, the "black national anthem" will, according to the schedule I have seen, be played after the actual national anthem of the United States. If that is the case, this will presumably be done in order to also ensure that everyone is still standing when it is sung. The NFL probably fears that some of those attending the game -- specifically, those who possess two increasingly rare traits: love of America and courage -- might not rise for the "black national anthem." But if they were already standing for the national anthem, few will sit when the "black national anthem" is then sung. The NFL doesn't want a repeat of what occurred at last year's Super Bowl in Arizona, when, as ABC News reported, "Former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake went viral in 2023 for remaining seated during a performance of the song at Super Bowl LVII." Last year, the "black national anthem" was played prior to the national anthem.

How destructive a decision performing the "black national anthem" at sporting events is -- whether before or after the national anthem -- can be summarized this way: Roger Goodell, the NFL commissioner, is among the few Americans of whom it will one day be said that he seriously damaged America. In 2021, the Washington Times noted, "Under Roger Goodell, the NFL has gone far beyond the kneeling; it's doubling down on 'social justice.' In addition to painting more slogans in the end zones and on players' helmets, the League will be donating $250 million to Black Lives Matter and other activist groups to 'combat systemic racism and support the battle against the ongoing and historical injustices faced by African-Americans.'"

and the URL:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/06/the_super_bowl_will_again_feature_two_national_ant hems_150445.html

[blueash]

Let's compare lyrics

Lift Every Voice evokes images and faith that those brought here in chains are now Americans and have faith that this country will continue to move toward equality. It is a very pro-American song acknowledging the suffering of the past and the promise of this nation to make it right.

"We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast....
True to our native land. "

or the SBB which has this lovely verse celebrating the death of slaves and pointedly saying that the "land of the free" does not and should not include slaves as free fully realized people.

Francis Scott Key, a slaveholder, had shortly before writing the poem seen a British unit of freed Black slaves win a crucial battle against Americans in the War of 1812.

"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."

Which America is more worthy of praise? Which song speaks to aspirations of an honorable, decent, and free nation?

[golfing eagles]

Let's compare lyrics

Lift Every Voice evokes images and faith that those brought here in chains are now Americans and have faith that this country will continue to move toward equality. It is a very pro-American song acknowledging the suffering of the past and the promise of this nation to make it right.

"We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast....
True to our native land. "

or the SBB which has this lovely verse celebrating the death of slaves and pointedly saying that the "land of the free" does not and should not include slaves as free fully realized people.

Francis Scott Key, a slaveholder, had shortly before writing the poem seen a British unit of freed Black slaves win a crucial battle against Americans in the War of 1812.

"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."

Which America is more worthy of praise? Which song speaks to aspirations of an honorable, decent, and free nation?

And what about the lyric: "until we march to victory" in that so-called black national anthem? Divisive enough????

[MightyDog]

I have a strong suspicion that we would disagree on the root cause and the main instigators of your the intended disunity
Perhaps, but that is very presumptuous of you.

Meet Yuri Bezmenov. This is the best 6 1/2 minutes you will spend this year, maybe this decade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI

For the full 1 hr 20 min interview, install his name in the Youtube search bar.

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

Absolutely no problem with them playing that SONG. Play it at halftime. Let the cheerleaders perform to it. DO NOT equate it with our ONE AND ONLY national anthem, DO NOT try to elevate it to something that it is not. I love CHOOSING to learn about "other cultures", but not having it shoved down my throat as a so-called "national anthem". I'm going to Africa in 6 months, will be sitting in at a school, having dinner with locals and learning about a DIFFERENT culture. THIS is America-we are supposed to be ONE NATION, we should not embrace division.
100% right!

[ChrisTinaBruce]

There’s a reason for everything. You don’t truly believe we spend billions of dollars on our “public schooling” and not getting the exact results wanted?

Instead of teaching critical, thinking, history, philosophy and economics it’s much easier to teach divisiveness.

[Girlcopper]

Black National Anthem: Lift Every Voice and Sing | Song lyrics (https://www.atlantanewsfirst.com/2024/02/11/sing-along-with-black-national-anthem-lift-every-voice-sing/)

It is about the ancestors of some of the African Americans. Probably of many watching the NFL as well.
My ancestors as Italians weren’t treated equal nor were many orientals when they came to America. Women were treated as a second class citizens and looked down upon in the early years too. Guess we need a whole bunch of individual anthems since the black one was allowed

[jedalton]

Best way to divide our country I've ever seen

[mlmarr]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

keep America county divided..

[Desiderata]

I don't see any problem with it.

In fact, most of the players are black so it's perhaps appropriate that they play that song.

It may also be a good opportunity to become more open minded. Learn something new about other cultures
Great game. They all seem to be close these days. I believe it had one of the highest audiences of all time.
I agree that most of the players are black, but playing a “black national anthem” seems very divisive to me.. The half time shows, in the last 4 years, seem to be meant to mostly entertain a black audience. Is that for the purpose of entertaining the players, not the majority of the audience?

[ThirdOfFive]

And quickly turning into a "bowl of granola"... What isn't fruits and nuts is flakes... (apologies to Gallagher...)
Funny!

And also (unfortunately) true.

[ThirdOfFive]

I agree that most of the players are black, but playing a “black national anthem” seems very divisive to me.. The half time shows, in the last 4 years, seem to be meant to mostly entertain a black audience. Is that for the purpose of entertaining the players, not the majority of the audience?
Agreed.

One not-so-minor point though needs to be made. Most of the players are AMERICANS who happen to be black. Putting ethnicity, color, or any other physical attribute before that fact is divisive.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Nothing wrong with justice for all. Nowadays, "for all" means much more to some. It is a cause they truly.believe in. I have never been a minority but I do my best to understand. I'm kinda proud the majority is not fighting them tooth and nail. It shows most of us are not the "bad guys" they seem to be fighting.
Define minority...

Funny how fast overall applications of numbers can change with strategic planning vs say, happenstance.

Lots of new flocks of "birds", "migrating", changing the "monet" canvas, tipping scales. If it happens by the "laws" of nature fine, thats a very good thing. If it happens via bird-feeders and tossing bread crumbs at the expense of the well-being of the species, defying the "laws" of nature; degrading life, liberty and persuit of happiness, that's another.

I bet one is now a minority if one looks beyond their own window. Perhaps one is not a minority anymore with the exception of within T V bubble?

I heard someone in the real world say we are not a "melting pot" but a "salad". Made me want to spit my salad out.

The national anthem sees no skin color but stands for freedom. To pay tribute to one that calls out skin color is un-american at its core.

[MandoMan]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

It’s an attempt to pacify some NFL players who might otherwise “take a knee” because they are not proud to be Americans.

[golfing eagles]

It’s an attempt to pacify some NFL players who might otherwise “take a knee” because they are not proud to be Americans.

Those who took a knee should have been immediately banned from all professional sports for life.

[bowlingal]

Dale....I agree with you 100%. why is there a need for a black national anthem? We should be ONE nation, with ONE national anthem. Why is there also a BET tv station? If we want everyone to mesh together ,get along, work together ,than why the separate categories? This just makes everything much worse.

[Bogie Shooter]

I'll look for the citation. Meanwhile, I was afraid that it might get booed or worse and was happy they changed their minds. I like the song as well, I just don't feel it should be a "national anthem" for any American

Here is the text:


The Super Bowl Will Again Feature Two 'National Anthems'
COMMENTARY
By Dennis PagerFebruary 06, 2024
The Super Bowl Will Again Feature Two 'National Anthems'FR170650 AP
This coming Sunday, at the most widely viewed sporting event in America, the Super Bowl, the National Football League will feature the singing of "Lift Every Voice and Sing," the song first known as the "Negro national anthem" and now known as the "black national anthem."

In order to ensure that those present at the game and the more than 100 million people watching on television cannot avoid hearing it, the "black national anthem" will, according to the schedule I have seen, be played after the actual national anthem of the United States. If that is the case, this will presumably be done in order to also ensure that everyone is still standing when it is sung. The NFL probably fears that some of those attending the game -- specifically, those who possess two increasingly rare traits: love of America and courage -- might not rise for the "black national anthem." But if they were already standing for the national anthem, few will sit when the "black national anthem" is then sung. The NFL doesn't want a repeat of what occurred at last year's Super Bowl in Arizona, when, as ABC News reported, "Former Arizona gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake went viral in 2023 for remaining seated during a performance of the song at Super Bowl LVII." Last year, the "black national anthem" was played prior to the national anthem.

How destructive a decision performing the "black national anthem" at sporting events is -- whether before or after the national anthem -- can be summarized this way: Roger Goodell, the NFL commissioner, is among the few Americans of whom it will one day be said that he seriously damaged America. In 2021, the Washington Times noted, "Under Roger Goodell, the NFL has gone far beyond the kneeling; it's doubling down on 'social justice.' In addition to painting more slogans in the end zones and on players' helmets, the League will be donating $250 million to Black Lives Matter and other activist groups to 'combat systemic racism and support the battle against the ongoing and historical injustices faced by African-Americans.'"

and the URL:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/06/the_super_bowl_will_again_feature_two_national_ant hems_150445.html

Thanks for the link. Turns out to be one man’s opinion.

[golfing eagles]

Thanks for the link. Turns out to be one man’s opinion.

One man's opinion on one website---yes.

How many millions agree with it? Actually, EVERY American should agree with it----we are ONE NATION.

[Bill14564]

I agree that most of the players are black, but playing a “black national anthem” seems very divisive to me.. The half time shows, in the last 4 years, seem to be meant to mostly entertain a black audience. Is that for the purpose of entertaining the players, not the majority of the audience?

You presume to know the makeup of the audience. My guess is the NFL has a better idea of that than you do.

It's sad to see an assumption about the intent of the halftime show based on the skin color of the performers.

[Bill14564]

I'll look for the citation. Meanwhile, I was afraid that it might get booed or worse and was happy they changed their minds. I like the song as well, I just don't feel it should be a "national anthem" for any American

Here is the text:
...

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/06/the_super_bowl_will_again_feature_two_national_ant hems_150445.html

WOW! That was just the beginning of the vitriol in that commentary piece.

The author assumes an intent from a schedule he has seen. Based on the remainder of the article, I wonder if the author didn't see that schedule immediately after he created it himself.

I'll make some assumptions about the author based on his article and say that this is not a man whose opinions hold any credibility. Yes, they are his opinions, but they are not worth the paper they are written on.

[Federspiel]

I wonder if Native Americans have an anthem? We should play that too.

[golfing eagles]

WOW! That was just the beginning of the vitriol in that commentary piece.

The author assumes an intent from a schedule he has seen. Based on the remainder of the article, I wonder if the author didn't see that schedule immediately after he created it himself.

I'll make some assumptions about the author based on his article and say that this is not a man whose opinions hold any credibility. Yes, they are his opinions, but they are not worth the paper they are written on.

So the opinion of a commentator on a well known website "holds no credibility" and he created his facts himself??? But any opinion to the contrary is completely valid and factual???? What flavor Kool-Aid is that, anyway?????

[Vermilion Villager]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

If you go down this road then you should ask the question, why do they even play the national anthem?

[Bill14564]

Let's compare lyrics

Lift Every Voice evokes images and faith that those brought here in chains are now Americans and have faith that this country will continue to move toward equality. It is a very pro-American song acknowledging the suffering of the past and the promise of this nation to make it right.

"We have come, treading our path through the blood of the slaughtered,
Out from the gloomy past,
Till now we stand at last
Where the white gleam of our bright star is cast....
True to our native land. "

or the SBB which has this lovely verse celebrating the death of slaves and pointedly saying that the "land of the free" does not and should not include slaves as free fully realized people.

Francis Scott Key, a slaveholder, had shortly before writing the poem seen a British unit of freed Black slaves win a crucial battle against Americans in the War of 1812.

"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."

Which America is more worthy of praise? Which song speaks to aspirations of an honorable, decent, and free nation?

SBB? Do you mean Star Spangled Banner (SSB)?

Whatever Key may have felt about slavery, the SSB does not comment on it at all. The stanza you quote makes a prediction about those fighting for the British side, not every employee and slave in the states.

Both songs are admirable. One is a song of hoping to achieve liberty through battle written at a time the battle was occurring. The other is a song of hope after having achieved liberty. If we put chest-beating and racism aside, you could almost imagine the SSB as the pre-1814 song and "Lift Every Voice.." as the post-1815 song (though it wasn't written until the 1900s).

[Vermilion Villager]

The national football league (NFL) is a private company. They set the rules for everything that happens in one of their games… Including the Super Bowl.
If they want to have more than one song played before the start of one of their football games that is 100% their call.

[Bill14564]

So the opinion of a commentator on a well known website "holds no credibility" and he created his facts himself??? But any opinion to the contrary is completely valid and factual???? What flavor Kool-Aid is that, anyway?????

Well-known does not mean credible; we will have different/opposite examples that we each believe to be correct.

And I said his opinions hold no credibility with me. I am suspicious that the schedule he claims to have seen originated with the NFL. I disagree with the assumptions he makes and the intentions he assigns to others. Some may drink up all he has to offer and hold it up as fact, to me it is simply an ugly opinion.

[golfing eagles]

The national football league (NFL) is a private company. They set the rules for everything that happens in one of their games… Including the Super Bowl.
If they want to have more than one song played before the start of one of their football games that is 100% their call.

yes, but I think the issue is a little broader than that.

[golfing eagles]

Well-known does not mean credible; we will have different/opposite examples that we each believe to be correct.

And I said his opinions hold no credibility with me. I am suspicious that the schedule he claims to have seen originated with the NFL. I disagree with the assumptions he makes and the intentions he assigns to others. Some may drink up all he has to offer and hold it up as fact, to me it is simply an ugly opinion.

That's fair. And my opinion is that anyone who supports any anthem other than our ONE and ONLY National Anthem, or promotes divisiveness in our great country, or takes a knee or disparages America should find a new home in North Korea.

[Ponygirl]

During the Super Bowl, the song was introduced by the name “Lift Every Voice And Sing” not as an anthem.

Suggest you read the beautiful and very powerful words of strength and of overcoming adversity.

[Regorp]

Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??

As long as our countries National Anthem is respected as performed immediately prior to game play, as with God Bless America or America The Beautiful, we can respect the right of African Americans to have a special song as well. You don't like it then don't watch it.

[Bill14564]

That's fair. And my opinion is that anyone who supports any anthem other than our ONE and ONLY National Anthem, or promotes divisiveness in our great country, or takes a knee or disparages America should find a new home in North Korea.

I agree with this and have always argued that "Black National Anthem" is a poor label for the song. Fortunately, I have not heard that term used other than by those who want to object to the performance of the song.

I was/am against the kneeling also. Not for the choice not to stand, that is a freedom we have, but for the choice to demonstrate disrespect. It wasn't, "I choose not to stand and am glad we have the freedom to make that choice," it was, "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color." That he did not stand is fine with me, that he chose another position to draw attention to himself and then stated a reason that, to me, seems designed to be disrespectful is what I object to.

[Sandy and Ed]

Racism is like a sore being picked. No better way to keep the racial divide than having a black national anthem, black caucus, black this or black that. I spent years in the military and greatly enjoyed the camaraderie of humans. Not blacks, not whites, not Asians or Latino. Just humans. If i need to fill out paper work and they have an “other” category for race I check that off or if they have a “specify” space I simply put in “human”. That is a race after all. Bottom line I am sick and tired of even hearing the word race or black or white etc. Get over it and get on with it

[Taltarzac725]

One man's opinion on one website---yes.

How many millions agree with it? Actually, EVERY American should agree with it----we are ONE NATION.

I would rather see sincere expressions of respect for the US Flag or whatever rather than phoney ones.

I noticed a lot of athletes at the Super Bowl during the playing of the National Anthem did not have their hands on their hearts. Travis Kelce did. And I did not see a frame on Taylor Swift at that time.

[golfing eagles]

As long as our countries National Anthem is respected as performed immediately prior to game play, as with God Bless America or America The Beautiful, we can respect the right of African Americans to have a special song as well. You don't like it then don't watch it.

No, not if we are ONE NATION. Not to mention the NFL is bending over backwards to placate 11% of our population.

[Pat2015]

Why not? I thought those that opposed the Black National Anthem are the same that was opposed to kneeling. It was my understanding that the people with that view gave up watching the NFL so it shouldn't matter. Besides the Black national anthem was performed a half hour before kickoff and before the pregame show, which included America the Beautiful and then the National Anthem.
Fact is that there’s no Black National Anthem, there’s only one anthem in our country and that's for all of us! 🇺🇸

[Taltarzac725]

No, not if we are ONE NATION. Not to mention the NFL is bending over backwards to placate 11% of our population.

2/3s of the NFL players have African-American listed as their ethnicity.

Black players in professional American football - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_players_in_professional_American_football)

At the start of the 2014 season, NFL surveys revealed that the league was 68.7% African-American and 28.6% non-Hispanic white, with the remaining 2.7% comprising Asian/Pacific Islander, non-white Hispanics, and those preferring an other category. In the 21st century, the percentage of non-Hispanic white players has decreased slightly, falling from 29.0% in 2003 to 26.8% in 2019. The 2019 racial and gender report card included for the first time a two or more races option to which 9.6% of players reported themselves, thus resulting in a lower African American percentage at 58.9%.[41]

[Robnlaura]

The facts are simple it was a decided black racial experience. From the “black anthem” to the black only half time show.. period

[elenG]

absolutely no problem with them playing that song. Play it at halftime. Let the cheerleaders perform to it. do not equate it with our one and only national anthem, do not try to elevate it to something that it is not. I love choosing to learn about "other cultures", but not having it shoved down my throat as a so-called "national anthem". I'm going to africa in 6 months, will be sitting in at a school, having dinner with locals and learning about a different culture. this is america-we are supposed to be one nation, we should not embrace division.
ditto!!

[Robnlaura]

I said this yesterday and got some but think how blacks must feel.. lol found the whole racial divisiveness a real issue starting with the “black national anthem” followed by the “black only half time show” by an aging dancer.

There is only ONE national anthem.

As there is only ONE United States of America.

And it’s for EVERYONE - white, black, yellow, and even maroon.

The agenda of division isn’t just needless; it’s exhausting.

[golfing eagles]

2/3s of the NFL players have African-American listed as their ethnicity.

Black players in professional American football - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_players_in_professional_American_football)

So what? If those are the best players, they have EARNED their way onto that field. God bless them. But that field is not representative of the demographics of America any more than the game show "Family Feud". I wish every field of endeavor had that same meritocracy.

[Topspinmo]

So are mine. At least on my father's side. Except for some skin heads I doubt if many people would want to hear that particular song. And my mother's side from her mother and grandmother etc. go back to the 1660s to Massachusetts. These are mainly English and Scottish.

The NFL gears its songs played to its main audience many of whom are of African-American ethnic background.


My ancestors are Swiss so I’m Neural on this :icon_wink:

[Sandy and Ed]

As I study the words of “America, The Beautiful” I can’t help thinking that should replace our costing National Anthem. It is much more representative of what we want our country to stand for. Crown thy good with brotherhood from sea to shining sea.

[Sandy and Ed]

O beautiful for spacious skies
For amber waves of grain
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stern impassioned stress
A thoroughfare of freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw
Confirm thy soul in self-control
Thy liberty in law!

[HORNET]

One more thing to divide us!

[GoRedSox!]

I am fine with them performing the song, but it should not be called a national anthem. Words do matter. A national anthem is for country, not race, and the USA has one national anthem. Call it something else and sing it.

[fdpaq0580]

My ancestors as Italians weren’t treated equal nor were many orientals when they came to America. Women were treated as a second class citizens and looked down upon in the early years too. Guess we need a whole bunch of individual anthems since the black one was allowed

"I am woman. Hear me roar! Helen Reddy
An anthem for women. But not our official national anthem. Still, good song with a message. By all means sing along.

[fdpaq0580]

Best way to divide our country I've ever seen

What? TOTV?

[kingofbeer]

What? TOTV?
I don't give a darn about any of the anthems during the Super Bowl. I don't care about the Halftime Show either. I just like to watch the game.

[Taltarzac725]

So what? If those are the best players, they have EARNED their way onto that field. God bless them. But that field is not representative of the demographics of America any more than the game show "Family Feud". I wish every field of endeavor had that same meritocracy.

The NFL is not the same as America. What is sung at the Super Bowl is probably up to the NFL and other entities involved in keeping the people there safe. At the Super Bowl.

[fdpaq0580]

I wonder if Native Americans have an anthem? We should play that too.

Many nations. Many sacred songs. Many languages. Many beliefs.

[fdpaq0580]

So the opinion of a commentator on a well known website "holds no credibility" and he created his facts himself??? But any opinion to the contrary is completely valid and factual???? What flavor Kool-Aid is that, anyway?????

Tooti Fruiti?

[Bill14564]

Perhaps, but that is very presumptuous of you.

Meet Yuri Bezmenov. This is the best 6 1/2 minutes you will spend this year, maybe this decade.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI

For the full 1 hr 20 min interview, install his name in the Youtube search bar.

Certainly not the best 6 1/2 minutes I will spend this year. A 40 year old warning that the sky is falling - though I'm sure some will say that he is/was right but it just taken this long to develop and in just a few more years.....

[fdpaq0580]

The national football league (NFL) is a private company. They set the rules for everything that happens in one of their games… Including the Super Bowl.
If they want to have more than one song played before the start of one of their football games that is 100% their call.

Yes!

[Ramone]

This anthem only stokes the racism and division many want for America

QUOTE=DALEPQ;2300503]Granted this is an opinion, and probably will be removed from forum.
So; What was the purpose/benefit of singing the "Black National Anthem" at the Super Bowl??
We are ONE NATION, with ONE NATIONAL ANTHEM!!
To me, the Black National Athem, encourages division, it does not encourage unity!
So, what is next? Latino Anthem, or maybe LGBTQ anthem.
"ONE NATION.....with liberty and justice for all", what is wrong with that??[/QUOTE]

[Robnlaura]

During the Super Bowl, the song was introduced by the name “Lift Every Voice And Sing” not as an anthem.

Suggest you read the beautiful and very powerful words of strength and of overcoming adversity.

“
Shadowed beneath Thy hand,

May we forever stand,

True to our God,

True to our native land.” That’s called africa pony girl

[Taltarzac725]

Many nations. Many sacred songs. Many languages. Many beliefs.

And some are probably dead and gone.

Florida Tribes Archives - Native-Americans.com (https://native-americans.com/category/native-amerian-tribes-by-state/florida-tribes/)