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Sonny2024
02-17-2024, 05:49 AM
Tarpon Boil condition 2-16-24
Two Bills
02-17-2024, 06:01 AM
Sanding spiking, etc. is part of regular maintenance.
Whether the course should be closed during the work is another question.
Dave951
02-17-2024, 07:13 AM
We played Churchill, Lowlands,and Mickey Lee this past week. Greens were great. Reddish, Tarpon, and Bonita are terrible. They should be closed impossible to putt on
Boffin
02-17-2024, 08:45 AM
Play on!
BrianL99
02-17-2024, 08:48 AM
Sanding spiking, etc. is part of regular maintenance.
Whether the course should be closed during the work is another question.
If you mean aeration & top dressing, that doesn't look like what was done to that Green.
I've never played an Executive Course, so my knowledge is only anecdotal and mostly from this site.
If I moved to TV with the understanding I'd be able to play "free golf" to my heart's content and I assumed that the courses would be maintained to the quality I saw when I bought my home, I'd be pretty damn PO'd with what I see of the Exec courses.
Why isn't anyone do anything about it? Doesn't the CDD have the obligation to continue to provide what you were sold in the first place?
If "free" golf was why you agreed to buy in TV and assume that Amenity Fee ... why aren't there picket lines at the CDD offices and people withholding their Amenity fee? Why all the complaining, but a lack of action on behalf of the "tax (fee) paying public"?
sheena0904
02-17-2024, 08:49 AM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
First world problems
biker1
02-17-2024, 08:57 AM
Withholding their amenity fee? That won't work out well ;-)
If you mean aeration & top dressing, that doesn't look like what was done to that Green.
I've never played an Executive Course, so my knowledge is only anecdotal and mostly from this site.
If I moved to TV with the understanding I'd be able to play "free golf" to my heart's content and I assumed that the courses would be maintained to the quality I saw when I bought my home, I'd be pretty damn PO'd with what I see of the Exec courses.
Why isn't anyone do anything about it? Doesn't the CDD have the obligation to continue to provide what you were sold in the first place?
If "free" golf was why you agreed to buy in TV and assume that Amenity Fee ... why aren't there picket lines at the CDD offices and people withholding their Amenity fee? Why all the complaining, but a lack of action on behalf of the "tax (fee) paying public"?
BrianL99
02-17-2024, 09:11 AM
Withholding their amenity fee? That won't work out well ;-)
Probably not. But with all the complaining, why not do something?
Maybe ... bring 1000 of your like minded friends to the Golf/CDD Office, line up around the corner ... complain in person, one by one and wait for the press to show up?
Maybe a golf cart parade, with slogans and signs?
I'm the first to admit that the Championship courses are in abysmal condition, but that's a different story. They're privately owned and the owner is entitled to maintain them as he feels necessary and he's entitled to not serve the folks who don't like it.
The Executives are a whole different story. "Government" is not providing what they promised and charge for.
.... or perhaps some folks are complaining because they're not playing well?
Papa_lecki
02-17-2024, 09:19 AM
I've never played an Executive Course, so my knowledge is only anecdotal and mostly from this site.
If I moved to TV …..
So basically talk as fact, based on what you read on the internet.
The executives are fine, some are worse than others, but it’s lots of holes of golf all winter, no snow, with great people.
The amenity fee is spread among a lot of things, it’s not like it only pays for executive golf.
I think the contractors who maintain the courses aren’t monitored or held to the standard in the contract as close as they should.
I played Evans Prairie today. It was fine, not great, and certainly not in as good shape as my country club at home (which is under 6” of snow). But I didn’t have to write a 6 figure check for access to Evans prairie plus thousands of dollars of dues every year.
Two Bills
02-17-2024, 09:26 AM
If you mean aeration & top dressing, that doesn't look like what was done to that Green.
I've never played an Executive Course, so my knowledge is only anecdotal and mostly from this site.
No, I did not mean aeration and top dressing.
Seen sanded greens and tee boxes, as in pictures, on many occasions on courses, some they spike, others just sanded.
I even spike and sand my lawn at home once a year.
biker1
02-17-2024, 09:32 AM
First of all, I don't complain about the executives and I have zero desire to participate in a golf cart parade and make signs. That is just silly talk. There is a large variance in the quality of the executives. Why this is so, I don't know. I am reasonable sure the folks responsible for the maintenance aren't happy with the situation on some of the courses. The conditions on the courses with issues probably won't improve until the weather warms up. I suspect the management would like to shut down some of the courses (Bonita Pass comes to mind) but the high demand for tee times may prevent that from happening.
Probably not. But with all the complaining, why not do something?
Maybe ... bring 1000 of your like minded friends to the Golf/CDD Office, line up around the corner ... complain in person, one by one and wait for the press to show up?
Maybe a golf cart parade, with slogans and signs?
I'm the first to admit that the Championship courses are in abysmal condition, but that's a different story. They're privately owned and the owner is entitled to maintain them as he feels necessary and he's entitled to not serve the folks who don't like it.
The Executives are a whole different story. "Government" is not providing what they promised and charge for.
.... or perhaps some folks are complaining because they're not playing well?
kkingston57
02-17-2024, 10:02 AM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
Is that sand on the greens. If so, that is normal maintenance. Unfortunately, due to colder temps in Central Florida it is needed in the winter.
UpNorth
02-17-2024, 12:22 PM
Is that sand on the greens. If so, that is normal maintenance. Unfortunately, due to colder temps in Central Florida it is needed in the winter.
Yes, that's sand on those greens, filling in all the dead areas killed by fungus. It is not the time of year to aerate and top dress the greens. But it is the only thing you can do when all else fails. Likely the mowers carrying the disease from one green to the next on those three courses.
WharfRat
02-18-2024, 05:07 AM
I have found playing golf in and around TV at this time of year is a bit dicey in that you don’t always know what you’re going to get in terms of course conditions. Online course reviews can be helpful if you can find them and they are recent. I always try to do some homework lest risk having a bad experience.
thevillagernie
02-18-2024, 06:33 AM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
there is a posted maint. schedule,tells you when they sand !!!!
tv2016
02-18-2024, 07:40 AM
If you haven’t seen these 3 holes yourself, it might be hard to realize how bad they are. Something went wrong.
terryf484
02-18-2024, 07:52 AM
No, I did not mean aeration and top dressing.
Seen sanded greens and tee boxes, as in pictures, on many occasions on courses, some they spike, others just sanded.
I even spike and sand my lawn at home once a year.
I don't believe those are sanded greens, I played Bonita Springs a couple of weeks ago and every green was in terrible shape, looking alot like what is posted above. Hardly any grass on them, appears there is some sort of disease that has killed the grass. Almost impossible to putt on them.
NoMo50
02-18-2024, 08:48 AM
It is a real Catch-22 For the executive courses this time of year. There is tremendous pressure for tee times with the added population, and closing courses would lead to people screaming. It is not the growing season, and it takes a very long time to rejuvenate a green this time of year, so people scream about that, too. My belief is that many of these courses are being kept open simply to satisfy the demand for tee times. I look for many of them to be closed in the spring in order to properly rehab the greens.
DrHitch
02-18-2024, 08:48 AM
So, the monthly amenity fee pays for maintenance of executive courses (among lots of other things), but the championship courses get funded differently?
..... first to admit that the Championship courses are in abysmal condition, but that's a different story. They're privately owned and the owner is entitled to maintain them as he feels necessary and he's entitled to not serve the folks who don't like it.
The Executives are a whole different story. "Government" is not providing what they promised and charge for......
vinricci
02-18-2024, 08:51 AM
Building more homes makes $$$; maintaining amenities costs them money. Collecting $180.00 per month from 75,000 or so homes brings in $13,500,000.00 monthly.
zigzag
02-18-2024, 09:02 AM
My understanding is that the Developer turned over management and maintenance of the Championship courses (retaining ownership) to local governance (us) as it's presently done on the Executive Courses. This means "we" are responsible for the condition of the courses as "we" manage the operations department. An e-mail followed by a call to the Executive Golf Maintenance head to ask about Tarpon Boil two weeks ago has not been returned. So in essence, we're doing this, poor maintenance, to ourselves. My suggestion is to contact our local, elected, commissioners with complaints.
BrianL99
02-18-2024, 09:07 AM
So, the monthly amenity fee pays for maintenance of executive courses (among lots of other things), but the championship courses get funded differently?
The Championship courses are privately owned (by the Developer).
Admittedly, the relationship is complicated. The Championship courses provide management for the Executive courses at some level and as of the end of last year, all (or mostly all) of the Championship courses' employees (starters, ambassadors, etc) are employees of the CDD and contracted to the Developer/Championship courses.
I freely admit to being confused by all the inter-relationships, but the answer to your question is ... in theory, no portion of the Amenity Fees go to the Championship courses and no portion of money spent at a "Championship Club" goes to the CDD.
Davonu
02-18-2024, 09:35 AM
...I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad...
Yeah, except that RedFish Run greens (and I use that term loosely :) ) were black, not white. Must be some sort of maintenance. I still enjoyed the round. Maintenance is required on occasion.
G.R.I.T.S.
02-18-2024, 09:40 AM
What did the golf department say when you called?
bagboy
02-18-2024, 10:08 AM
What did the golf department say when you called?
See post #21
BrianL99
02-18-2024, 11:11 AM
My understanding is that the Developer turned over management and maintenance of the Championship courses (retaining ownership) to local governance (us) as it's presently done on the Executive Courses. This means "we" are responsible for the condition of the courses as "we" manage the operations department. An e-mail followed by a call to the Executive Golf Maintenance head to ask about Tarpon Boil two weeks ago has not been returned. So in essence, we're doing this, poor maintenance, to ourselves. My suggestion is to contact our local, elected, commissioners with complaints.
My understanding, was the Developer decided to transfer their Championship Golf Course employees to the CDD and contract with the CDD's to provide services. The reports I read, didn't say "maintenance" employees or maintenance contracts were changed in any way.
https://www.**************.com/2023/08/09/developer-wants-to-shed-responsibility-for-1000-employees-at-golf-courses/
wamley
02-18-2024, 12:24 PM
Played Bonita on Friday just as bad. Took it and Tarpon off our play list. Many 9 hole courses going this route and some Championship.Kilideere & Osprey at Evans Priarie are not worth the mone greens are flat, but mostly no grass just rolled soil..
Two Bills
02-18-2024, 12:32 PM
I don't believe those are sanded greens, I played Bonita Springs a couple of weeks ago and every green was in terrible shape, looking alot like what is posted above. Hardly any grass on them, appears there is some sort of disease that has killed the grass. Almost impossible to putt on them.
As the OP has not returned to update, can't confirm what is there.
But.
I bet the farm it is sand.
I use Silica Sand myself when I do my lawn.
BrianL99
02-18-2024, 12:46 PM
I bet the farm it is sand.
I use Silica Sand myself when I do my lawn.
There in lies the difference. You're putting it on a "lawn", which implies there's grass to begin with.
Coley
02-18-2024, 02:38 PM
a shame, but they are quick!!
Daddymac
02-18-2024, 03:21 PM
Sanding spiking, etc. is part of regular maintenance.
Whether the course should be closed during the work is another question.
Sanding Spiking ??? NO ITS CALL PAINTING SAND!!! Close the course and get it fixed!!
Daddymac
02-18-2024, 03:33 PM
We should get a protest started Down in the New section where they are selling the NEW HOMES..:swear: Do that for a week and you will see results. Protest, Protest, Protest!!! If you don’t do something about it, Nothing will be done ✅
fdpaq0580
02-18-2024, 04:02 PM
We should get a protest started Down in the New section where they are selling the NEW HOMES..:swear: Do that for a week and you will see results. Protest, Protest, Protest!!! If you don’t do something about it, Nothing will be done ✅
You are probably right? You get it organized, and if I have no medical conflicts I'll bring a chair and sit in support. Keep us informed here.
Vermilion Villager
02-18-2024, 05:07 PM
It is a real Catch-22 For the executive courses this time of year. There is tremendous pressure for tee times with the added population, and closing courses would lead to people screaming. It is not the growing season, and it takes a very long time to rejuvenate a green this time of year, so people scream about that, too. My belief is that many of these courses are being kept open simply to satisfy the demand for tee times. I look for many of them to be closed in the spring in order to properly rehab the greens.
Yet they keep building homes.........You can clearly see where the priority is
shut the front door
02-18-2024, 07:10 PM
I noticed that you posted the same pics and diatribe on the other site. In the future, I would suggest not posting your wife's pic on that site.
kcrazorbackfan
02-18-2024, 07:48 PM
“why aren't there picket lines at the CDD offices and people withholding their Amenity fee? Why all the complaining, but a lack of action on behalf of the "tax (fee) paying public"?
Try that and see how that works out for those who participate.
kcrazorbackfan
02-18-2024, 07:53 PM
We should get a protest started Down in the New section where they are selling the NEW HOMES..:swear: Do that for a week and you will see results. Protest, Protest, Protest!!! If you don’t do something about it, Nothing will be done ✅
So tell everyone when your group starts that so we can see how everyone failed at the end of the day, week, month, year - any amount of time your group wants to waste.
BrianL99
02-18-2024, 08:49 PM
Try that and see how that works out for those who participate.
I don't play Executives, so it's not my battle.
That said, I don't understand why no one is doing anything about the conditions, if they're truly as bad as folks say.
At some level, don't the CDD's have to be responsive to the needs/wants of their constituency? In a normal government/resident structure, wouldn't the residents/taxpayers try to do something about it, rather than just complain?
fdpaq0580
02-18-2024, 09:31 PM
Just a reminder. This is the time of year that the courses are under the most stress. Massive influx of players using the courses all day, every day. Excessive wear and tear and, being that this is also the time of year when grass, among othe things, is dormant, there will be no recovery until the birds have headed north again. It will take all of spring and summer to try and get things ready for the next season migrating hoards. When autumn comes and things go dormant and the first arrivals begin to swell the ranks of golfers, the courses that have mostly just recovered, will again be under duress and unable to fill in bare patches. The complaint cycle will be complete for another year.
MX rider
02-19-2024, 08:14 AM
Just a reminder. This is the time of year that the courses are under the most stress. Massive influx of players using the courses all day, every day. Excessive wear and tear and, being that this is also the time of year when grass, among othe things, is dormant, there will be no recovery until the birds have headed north again. It will take all of spring and summer to try and get things ready for the next season migrating hoards. When autumn comes and things go dormant and the first arrivals begin to swell the ranks of golfers, the courses that have mostly just recovered, will again be under duress and unable to fill in bare patches. The complaint cycle will be complete for another year.
I disagree. We played that course and Redfish 2 weeks ago. The greens were the worst I've seen...anywhere. More bare spots than grass.
It's not from too much wear and tear. It's beyond that, something has infected those greens and they need redone.
The starter even told us "don't try to putt, just take 2 strokes and move on".
That said, I played Palmetto last week and the greens were very good and it gets just as much use.
Bottom line, they need to fix those greens.
gighilton
02-19-2024, 08:33 AM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
That ain't sanding and regular care, that is AWFUL! There is a person Ken Roshaven in systems at administration that is in charge of golf schedules. Perhaps start there to direct complaints...
fdpaq0580
02-19-2024, 09:41 AM
I disagree. We played that course and Redfish 2 weeks ago. The greens were the worst I've seen...anywhere. More bare spots than grass.
It's not from too much wear and tear. It's beyond that, something has infected those greens and they need redone.
The starter even told us "don't try to putt, just take 2 strokes and move on".
That said, I played Palmetto last week and the greens were very good and it gets just as much use.
Bottom line, they need to fix those greens.
How? How soon would you expect improvement to "good".? My point is, short of total replacement, it will take time. Either way, the course should be closed.
For the starter to tell you "take two" is telling me, he advocate cheating. In my case, it would improve my game.
ILLINOIS RAY
02-19-2024, 10:16 AM
You can look up schedule of airation and sanding on Villages golf site. Avoid for 2 weeks after. They need to do this annually.
fdpaq0580
02-19-2024, 11:14 AM
You can look up schedule of airation and sanding on Villages golf site. Avoid for 2 weeks after. They need to do this annually.
Avoid for two weeks should translate as, course closed! Keep everyone off until it recovers. Or, bring on the artificial turf. (Nah! Me neither.)
Camranhvet
02-19-2024, 11:53 AM
I disagree. We played that course and Redfish 2 weeks ago. The greens were the worst I've seen...anywhere. More bare spots than grass.
It's not from too much wear and tear. It's beyond that, something has infected those greens and they need redone.
The starter even told us "don't try to putt, just take 2 strokes and move on".
That said, I played Palmetto last week and the greens were very good and it gets just as much use.
Bottom line, they need to fix those greens.
Palmetto has been closed more than open the past year for the same reasons. The down time enabled them to correct the issue.
fdpaq0580
02-19-2024, 01:11 PM
Palmetto has been closed more than open the past year for the same reasons. The down time enabled them to correct the issue.
Yep! Hard to get grass to grow when every thing is dormant and is being stomped on, driven over and whacked with clubs and balls every few minutes, day after day.
mntlblok
02-20-2024, 07:43 AM
We played Churchill, Lowlands,and Mickey Lee this past week. Greens were great. Reddish, Tarpon, and Bonita are terrible. They should be closed impossible to putt on
Saw it speculated here that the problem is fungus related. Makes sense, but I'm surprised that what precisely is going on hasn't been communicated here or elsewhere by now. Would expect something that bizarre would have become common knowledge by now.
We played Tarpon Boil for the first time recently and witnessed those greens. Have never seen anything like it. A most memorable day, too, as the wind, the cold, and my swing were nearly as bad as the turf conditions, though my putting was little worse than usual. Oh, and there was that haughty, former politician we endured. :-)
Have played MickeyLee a couple of times lately and the putting surface has been immaculate each time. Oddly, when we played it last week, there were zero ball marks nor any any sign that there had *ever* been a ball mark made on those greens. I hit the ball particularly well that day but had many balls strike the greens ground from on high, yet bounce and roll far past where the ball mark "would have been". I use "soft" balls (second hand :-) ) and normally find a ball mark rather near the landing spot. Having recently read of new (to me) methods of repairing same, I was hoping to get in some "testing". It's apparently another of my oddball traits that I find ball mark repair to be a most satisfying and "fun" endeavor - even those not of my own making. Brings back long ago memories of learning about healing via primary vs. secondary intention. :-)
Which reminds me. I *still* have found no answer for my finding that, even on the same course on the same day (I mostly play the par threes), some holes will be loaded with ball marks (repaired and otherwise) whilst others will have nary an imperfection. What's up with that? Obviously, one would expect more such marks on a hole of such length that it regularly receives wedges rather than 4 irons, but the differences have also been noted amongst holes of comparable length. I've made that inquiry a *lot* with never a satisfactory answer. While I'm sure every patch of turf grass can't receive exactly the same amount of water, I imagine that they're all "pretty close" for any given course. Based on past experience, I imagine that I'll still be asking this same question years from now. :-) Something for which to look forward. . .
BrianL99
02-20-2024, 08:18 AM
Which reminds me. I *still* have found no answer for my finding that, even on the same course on the same day (I mostly play the par threes), some holes will be loaded with ball marks (repaired and otherwise) whilst others will have nary an imperfection. What's up with that? Obviously, one would expect more such marks on a hole of such length that it regularly receives wedges rather than 4 irons, but the differences have also been noted amongst holes of comparable length. I've made that inquiry a *lot* with never a satisfactory answer. While I'm sure every patch of turf grass can't receive exactly the same amount of water, I imagine that they're all "pretty close" for any given course. Based on past experience, I imagine that I'll still be asking this same question years from now. :-) Something for which to look forward. . .
Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.
Two Bills
02-20-2024, 08:42 AM
Sanding Spiking ??? NO ITS CALL PAINTING SAND!!! Close the course and get it fixed!!
Sorry. I do not have the authority.
You may have, or you could instruct the powers that be to do your bidding.
mntlblok
02-20-2024, 08:56 AM
Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.
While that would be a perfectly reasonable "cause", it strains credulity that the folks overseeing such a "specialty" type construction would allow such a wide variation. I suppose that's "possible", but. . .
Reminds me of what we've witnessed here with the amazing rapidity of home construction. I have a bit of assembly line work way back in my background and have seen some incredible skills (in others) who have put in enough "reps". My sense is that such folks tend to figure out what works and then hone it.
But, that does give me food for thought. Drainage has to factor in there somewhere, eh? Hmmm. Wonder if the paucity of ball marks might correlate with more elevated greens or more "uphill" type tee shots. . .
mntlblok
02-20-2024, 09:04 AM
Inconsistent construction techniques. Ball Divots are related to the softness (wetness, usually) of the Greens. If the underlining material is consistent, ball marks will typically consistent. If the underlying material of the Green isn't uniform, ball marks won't be, either.
That also reminds me that I *think* that I can "feel" variations in the softness of greens as I tread. But, that also has not seemed to correlate with ball markness. My sophistication in matters of taste, though, has always landed well down in the lower percentiles.
Shall avoid any attempt to correlate green speed with hardness of surface or ball mark propensity, as judging the speed of greens shall apparently always lie beyond my capabilities.
BrianL99
02-20-2024, 10:19 AM
Shall avoid any attempt to correlate green speed with hardness of surface or ball mark propensity, as judging the speed of greens shall apparently always lie beyond my capabilities.
Smoothness, not hardness if the key to green speed.
mntlblok
02-20-2024, 10:29 AM
Smoothness, not hardness if the key to green speed.
Can sorta see how that would be - friction and all. Sadly, they all look to be of about the same "smoothness" to me. :-( Well, with the exception of those recent Tarpon Boil greens that brought to mind a particularly expansive case of geographic tongue. geographic tongue - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&sca_esv=19239ae0a447a3b4&sxsrf=ACQVn08jeE-xd7twPNEc8_5-lxxNgh7FZA:1708442975666&q=geographic+tongue&tbm=isch&source=lnms&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi00ruFnrqEAxW3QzABHbHBD1YQ0pQJegQICxAB&biw=1056&bih=477&dpr=1.82)
ladila389
02-20-2024, 03:07 PM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
It costs $$$ for Course Management!:grumpy it will be better when we get some snow!
jrandall
02-20-2024, 08:21 PM
My wife and I played golf on Tarpon Boil Executive golf course yesterday and the course was horrific. EVERY GREEN were like the pictures attached. Whoever is in charge of making the decision if a course should be open, should be replaced. Better yet, make them waste 2 hrs of their day trying to putt on them, and then remove them. They should be ashamed. I was told from a fellow golfer playing that the sister course RedFish Run was just as bad. What's going on here in the villages? It's so sad.
We played Redfish Run last Tuesday and it was as bad as your pictures are showing. In my 35 years of playing golf I have never seen greens or should I say sand and some green spots as bad as this.
MX rider
02-21-2024, 11:51 AM
How? How soon would you expect improvement to "good".? My point is, short of total replacement, it will take time. Either way, the course should be closed.
For the starter to tell you "take two" is telling me, he advocate cheating. In my case, it would improve my game.
The greens were so bad, putting was a joke. That's why he said that. Course needs to be closed.
MX rider
02-21-2024, 11:54 AM
Palmetto has been closed more than open the past year for the same reasons. The down time enabled them to correct the issue.
Obviously it worked. They need to close Tarpon and Redfish for sure. I've never seen greens so bare.
fdpaq0580
02-21-2024, 04:24 PM
The greens were so bad, putting was a joke. That's why he said that. Course needs to be closed.
"The grees were so bad" made me think you had the set up for a great punch line.
That's OK. I can't come up with a good punch line either.
(Sigh) 😔
mntlblok
02-21-2024, 06:12 PM
"The grees were so bad" made me think you had the set up for a great punch line.
That's OK. I can't come up with a good punch line either.
(Sigh) 😔
I miss Johnny, too.
Bay Kid
02-22-2024, 07:47 AM
That is pitiful. They should be closed.
Bogie Shooter
02-22-2024, 09:12 AM
Executive Golf article in today's District Bulletin.....
https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20240222001301
KCAlan
02-23-2024, 06:38 AM
We played the course last week. A great track but your pictures tell the truth. It’s the worst course conditions I have ever seen in all the Villages. Someone should be fired for letting the course get into that shape. There is no common sense reason for it. Shut it down for 6 months to a year and fix it.
GaryKoca
02-23-2024, 07:12 AM
Tarpon Boil and Bonita Pass are both terrible on the greens, and the third one in the group is probably also bad.
UpNorth
02-23-2024, 03:03 PM
Executive Golf article in today's District Bulletin.....
https://www.districtgov.org/PDFView/PDFMeeting.aspx?id=20240222001301
So, I guess El Nino only picks certain courses in The Villages to destroy. And a few courses outside The Villages have 18 perfect greens. Poor excuse for somebody not doing their job well.
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