9x9 Concrete Slab is any approval needed

[Arbud]

Having a 9'x 9' concrete slab poured in front of my house as a porch. Way far away from the street. Will I need any Villages or county approval before I have it poured.

[Altavia]

Yes, Architectural. Approval is required for all exterior modifications unless otherwise noted.

The specifics for your District are available here:


VCDD Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/ArchReviewManuals.aspx)



Application Form:

https://www.districtgov.org/departments/community-standards/images/ARC-application.pdf

[Bill14564]

Having a 9'x 9' concrete slab poured in front of my house as a porch. Way far away from the street. Will I need any Villages or county approval before I have it poured.

The ONLY way to know for sure is to call Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Community-Standards/community-standards.aspx) (352-751-3912) and ask. I imagine you are paying a good deal of money for that work and you wouldn't want to pay it again just to tear it back out. Call Community Standards (https://www.districtgov.org/departments/Community-Standards/community-standards.aspx) and find out for sure.

(The general answer is yes, you will need approval for ANY changes outside your home)

[ThirdOfFive]

When in doubt...ask. There've been numerous instances of people not asking ahead of time who end up with a pretty expensive tear-out-and-redo after the fact.

[villagetinker]

You may also need a building permit, and live water lines are NOT allowed under concrete slabs (Sumter County), we had to have 3 or 4 irrigation lines moved when we installed the birdcage.

[BrianL99]

You may also need a building permit, and live water lines are NOT allowed under concrete slabs (Sumter County), we had to have 3 or 4 irrigation lines moved when we installed the birdcage.

I'd love to know how your home was built, without "live water lines" under your slab ... and how your irrigation system was installed, without crossing a driveway or walkway.

[VApeople]

Having a 9'x 9' concrete slab poured in front of my house as a porch. Way far away from the street. Will I need any Villages or county approval before I have it poured.

Before we had a concrete slab poured (smaller than 9'x9') in front of our house, we got ARC approval.

[villagetinker]

I'd love to know how your home was built, without "live water lines" under your slab ... and how your irrigation system was installed, without crossing a driveway or walkway.

I can only tell you about the permit requirements, and in our case, I think the irrigation line go all the way around the house. I realize the house plumbing is under the house, I am just stating what I found for requirements of NEW concrete pads. A call to the building department may answer your concerns and questions.

[BrianL99]

I can only tell you about the permit requirements, and in our case, I think the irrigation line go all the way around the house. I realize the house plumbing is under the house, I am just stating what I found for requirements of NEW concrete pads. A call to the building department may answer your concerns and questions.

If a Building Inspector told me I couldn't pour a concrete pad over a water-line, I'd laugh at him and suggest he re-reads his IBC.

I suspect someone misunderstood something, because that defies common sense.

[Altavia]

I can only tell you about the permit requirements, and in our case, I think the irrigation line go all the way around the house. I realize the house plumbing is under the house, I am just stating what I found for requirements of NEW concrete pads. A call to the building department may answer your concerns and questions.

I was required to re-route irrigation lines around a new patio also.

The distribution line for the front yard went around the back of the house rather than under the driveway as you stated.
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[BrianL99]

I was required to re-route irrigation lines around a new patio also.

The distribution line for the front yard went around the back of the house rather than under the driveway as you stated.
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In 50 years of construction, I've never seen a building inspector balk at an irrigation line running under a slab.

Arguably, a building inspector *could* consider an irrigation line as part of the home plumbing and require a plumber to pull a permit and sign off on the portion that's under the house. If it's a "patio" an not an enclosed room, it usually wouldn't be considered part of the house (no roof).

The proper way to run irrigation under a slab of any type, is typically to run conduit and run the irrigation line through it. Without enclosing it in a length of conduit, I could see them requiring a relieving arch.

Running irrigation pipes under a large concrete pad - Home Improvement Stack Exchange (https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/55491/running-irrigation-pipes-under-a-large-concrete-pad)

Running Sprinkler Pipe Under A Sidewalk Or Driveway | Sprinkler School (https://school.sprinklerwarehouse.com/ss-pipe-tubing/running-sprinkler-pipe-under-a-sidewalk-or-driveway/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSGzFeze8dY

plumbing - Can I route an irrigation main through my basement? - Home Improvement Stack Exchange (https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/48964/can-i-route-an-irrigation-main-through-my-basement)

Blocked (https://www.reddit.com/r/Irrigation/comments/pgoide/would_sprinkler_system_be_routed_under_foundation/)

https://school.sprinklerwarehouse.com/tools-parts/how-to-dig-run-pipe-under-a-driveway-or-sidewalk/

[Bogie Shooter]

In 50 years of construction, I've never seen a building inspector balk at an irrigation line running under a slab.

Arguably, a building inspector *could* consider an irrigation line as part of the home plumbing and require a plumber to pull a permit and sign off on the portion that's under the house. If it's a "patio" an not an enclosed room, it usually wouldn't be considered part of the house (no roof).

The proper way to run irrigation under a slab of any type, is typically to run conduit and run the irrigation line through it. Without enclosing it in a length of conduit, I could see them requiring a relieving arch.

Running irrigation pipes under a large concrete pad - Home Improvement Stack Exchange (https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/55491/running-irrigation-pipes-under-a-large-concrete-pad)

Running Sprinkler Pipe Under A Sidewalk Or Driveway | Sprinkler School (https://school.sprinklerwarehouse.com/ss-pipe-tubing/running-sprinkler-pipe-under-a-sidewalk-or-driveway/)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSGzFeze8dY

plumbing - Can I route an irrigation main through my basement? - Home Improvement Stack Exchange (https://diy.stackexchange.com/questions/48964/can-i-route-an-irrigation-main-through-my-basement)

Blocked (https://www.reddit.com/r/Irrigation/comments/pgoide/would_sprinkler_system_be_routed_under_foundation/)

https://school.sprinklerwarehouse.com/tools-parts/how-to-dig-run-pipe-under-a-driveway-or-sidewalk/

In Florida?

[BrianL99]

In Florida?

Florida is on the International Building Code, like most everyone else. Like everyone else, they have a few minor amendments, but not much of significance.

2020 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, PLUMBING, 7TH EDITION | ICC DIGITAL CODES (https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/FLPC2020P1/chapter-3-general-regulations)

[ton80]

Florida is on the International Building Code, like most everyone else. Like everyone else, they have a few minor amendments, but not much of significance.

2020 FLORIDA BUILDING CODE, PLUMBING, 7TH EDITION | ICC DIGITAL CODES (https://codes.iccsafe.org/content/FLPC2020P1/chapter-3-general-regulations)

Brian, whether you agree with Sumter County on irrigation piping or not, they require you to reroute irrigation around patios and birdcages. Tinker , Altavia, and I have had that experience. All three prospective builders for my birdcage made it a point to clarify who would do the re-routing. They wanted a lot of money to do it as an incentive for the owner to get an irrigation guy to do it.
Also, as Altavia mentioned, the irrigation lines do not go under the driveway at my house also.

The code you referenced is blank as to any code for irrigation Chapter 14. So in my estimation, Sumter County can specify what they believe is a correct standard. I have no experience with other counties.

If you add a patio or birdcage etc., I hope you check with your local building officials.

[dhdallas]

Why do people ask these type of questions on social media? If you want to know about building codes, home/landscape modifications, laws & ordinances, etc. then you need a valid conclusive answer from the appropriate agency; not hearsay from Tom, Dick, & Harry on the Internet.
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[BrianL99]

Brian, whether you agree with Sumter County on irrigation piping or not, they require you to reroute irrigation around patios and birdcages. Tinker , Altavia, and I have had that experience. All three prospective builders for my birdcage made it a point to clarify who would do the re-routing. They wanted a lot of money to do it as an incentive for the owner to get an irrigation guy to do it.
Also, as Altavia mentioned, the irrigation lines do not go under the driveway at my house also.

The code you referenced is blank as to any code for irrigation Chapter 14. So in my estimation, Sumter County can specify what they believe is a correct standard. I have no experience with other counties.

If you add a patio or birdcage etc., I hope you check with your local building officials.

You're 100% right. A local building official can basically require anything they want, whether it makes sense or not. If I had a dollar for every time a building official was wrong, but we still had to do it, I'd be rich.

I am curious and tomorrow I'm going to ask a Code Compliance Consultant who works for me, I'm baffled as to how and why this is an issue in Sumter County.

[Altavia]

Brian, whether you agree with Sumter County on irrigation piping or not, they require you to reroute irrigation around patios and birdcages. Tinker , Altavia, and I have had that experience. All three prospective builders for my birdcage made it a point to clarify who would do the re-routing. They wanted a lot of money to do it as an incentive for the owner to get an irrigation guy to do it.
Also, as Altavia mentioned, the irrigation lines do not go under the driveway at my house also.

The code you referenced is blank as to any code for irrigation Chapter 14. So in my estimation, Sumter County can specify what they believe is a correct standard. I have no experience with other counties.

If you add a patio or birdcage etc., I hope you check with your local building officials.

Had the same requirement in NC.

My guess is too many ding dongs patched connections under cement (that failed later ) rather than running a single pipe.

[BigDawgInLakeDenham]

Why haven't any of you know it alls asked the obvious??? How does anyone living in TV have a house that is "way far away" from anything???:jester::jester::jester: