Successful implementations of AI technology replacing humans

[CoachKandSportsguy]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.

We finished the thrust of our new documentation in July last year, shipping 910 pages of new documentation and covering 5,600 different topics. The vast amount of documentation was an intimidating resource for new users and went unread due to its size. We needed to make this easier to digest.

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From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:
Drive through orders are being taken in under 60 seconds, much faster than human order takers. . . .currently in 10,000 locations with 100,000 in the pipeline.

These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements

[billethkid]

Sounds very much like the concerns expressed way back when "...computers were going to replace humans" and then later came robotics in manufacturing were going to replace humans.

Somehow we have digested and acclimated to the opportunities opened/presented by the new technology........VS the sky is falling news/headlines back then and again now......but worse.

Way too much commentary by ANYBODY with a keyboard presenting every whim of the day as if with authority/validity. And unfortunately a population that now believes almost anything.....from ANYBODY.

[Caymus]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements

Can always use more carpenters and plumbers.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Can always use more carpenters and plumbers.

Totally agree with this from a customer point of view,
from the tradespeople in these two areas, they might disagree. .


Sounds very much like the concerns expressed way back when "...computers were going to replace humans" and then later came robotics in manufacturing were going to replace humans. Somehow we have digested and acclimated to the opportunities opened/presented by the new technology........VS the sky is falling news/headlines back then and again now......but worse. Way too much commentary by ANYBODY with a keyboard presenting every whim of the day as if with authority/validity. And unfortunately a population that now believes almost anything.....from ANYBODY.

of course not ALL labor has been replaced, but labor has been replaced by computers, robots and is continuing.
not sure what your point is other than rambling, but FYI, i have personally programmed / coded people out of jobs in finance.

and I am a very, very basic programmer . . .

[billethkid]

Totally agree with this from a customer point of view,
from the tradespeople in these two areas, they might disagree. .




of course not ALL labor has been replaced, but labor has been replaced by computers, robots and is continuing.
not sure what your point is other than rambling, but FYI, i have personally programmed / coded people out of jobs in finance.

and I am a very, very basic programmer . . .

My point? We have assimilated and survived/surviving!

[Stu from NYC]

The people who will be mostly affected by this are people in minimum wage jobs who are easily replaced. People need to learn that minimum wage jobs are only entry level positions and people should look to advance from them.

[Keefelane66]

It doesn’t bother me that AI should be used a Fast Food restaurants rarely frequent them. Since many restaurants offer pay at table. I should be able to order from table so the meal order gets processed correctly. Just deliver it to the table requires minimum tipping.

[Bill14564]

Using technology where technology makes sense.

Why ask someone to flip through 910 pages to find the answer to a question when a machine can scan through it almost immediately? Attach a front end that can interpret questions and you have a very smart, very fast Shell answer man.

For the drive-thru window it's even easier. The machine doesn't need to know much at all, it just needs to understand human accents and a few words relating to the menu. Much faster and more accurate than a human listening to a garbled voice then hitting buttons on a screen.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

not everyone will assimilate,
not everyone will survive,
not everyone can move up

result will be a very dystopian society
where there is a low bar is a master's degree to obtain work which is high enough to buy a house
There will be no hard work options to gain experience in lieu of a master's degree.

A friend of mine, has a friend from india who moved here 30 years ago for the technical opportunity
starting 15 years ago, he kept losing his jobs after they moved the jobs from here to India.
Finally he moved back to india with family after 25 years of productive programming career.

For the entry level work, there is no place where the labor moved to, it will disappear and there are a hell of a lot more entry level type employees than there will ever be masters degree entry level on site AI machine management jobs.

the dystopian point is there is a tipping point, beyond which the french revolution happens.
Ever read Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/The-Tipping-Point-audiobook/dp/B000OYD8T2/ref=sr_1_1) ?
as the changes pile up by the plutocracy . . .

good luck to us as this working class provides the bulk of the social security wages contributions. .

[Aces4]

not everyone will assimilate,
not everyone will survive,
not everyone can move up

result will be a very dystopian society
where there is a low bar is a master's degree to obtain work which is high enough to buy a house
There will be no hard work options to gain experience in lieu of a master's degree.

A friend of mine, has a friend from india who moved here 30 years ago for the technical opportunity
starting 15 years ago, he kept losing his jobs after they moved the jobs from here to India.
Finally he moved back to india with family after 25 years of productive programming career.

For the entry level work, there is no place where the labor moved to, it will disappear and there are a hell of a lot more entry level type employees than there will ever be masters degree entry level on site AI machine management jobs.

the dystopian point is there is a tipping point, beyond which the french revolution happens.
Ever read Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/The-Tipping-Point-audiobook/dp/B000OYD8T2/ref=sr_1_1) ?
as the changes pile up by the plutocracy . . .

good luck to us as this working class provides the bulk of the social security wages contributions. .

UBI, as the younger generations state, is anticipated by many now…. Universal Basic Income dished out by the government.

[Bill14564]

not everyone will assimilate,
not everyone will survive,
not everyone can move up

result will be a very dystopian society
where there is a low bar is a master's degree to obtain work which is high enough to buy a house
There will be no hard work options to gain experience in lieu of a master's degree.

A friend of mine, has a friend from india who moved here 30 years ago for the technical opportunity
starting 15 years ago, he kept losing his jobs after they moved the jobs from here to India.
Finally he moved back to india with family after 25 years of productive programming career.

For the entry level work, there is no place where the labor moved to, it will disappear and there are a hell of a lot more entry level type employees than there will ever be masters degree entry level on site AI machine management jobs.

the dystopian point is there is a tipping point, beyond which the french revolution happens.
Ever read Amazon.com (https://www.amazon.com/The-Tipping-Point-audiobook/dp/B000OYD8T2/ref=sr_1_1) ?
as the changes pile up by the plutocracy . . .

good luck to us as this working class provides the bulk of the social security wages contributions. .

So what is the alternative?

Do we close down CASE and Caterpillar to put more people to work shoveling? Are we willing to pay the much higher prices to shut down automated production lines and buy hand-built automobiles? I could certainly get behind hiring more Americans to man telephones on customer service lines but I don't know that I want to pay the increased price that would come along with that.

Are we selling ourselves short by believing we must have unskilled trades? Is there a way to put more people to work in internship or apprentice programs that can lead to a career rather than having them take orders at a drive-thru window?

Is the dystopian future the one where a Master's degree is needed to hold a job or is it the one where technology is seen as a threat and banned?

[CoachKandSportsguy]

UBI, as the younger generations state, is anticipated by many now…. Universal Basic Income dished out by the government.

I agree, and the way to support it is though a tax on capital, as that is what replaced labor.
So all software amortization and software purchase and SAAS expense shall be disallowed expenses for corporate tax purposes.

And then the corporate tax is adjusted to include capital to fund this, as corporations US entities can't leave, including ones owned by intl holdings companies.

And raise the social security tax by increasing the percentage and removing the ceiling to tax all management employees, even with a graduated increasing scale for highly compensated ones, and then SS will survive a bit longer. . and I don't believe that these people will miss the increased tax, so save yourself from the theoretical arguments on tax disincentives. Working above UBI after tax gives you more spending opportunities than UBI or nothing at all.

In the post WWII and post the great depression, people still worked with the highest incremental tax rate approaching 70%. People won't stop working but there is a level at which each individual won't work harder or longer or want the additional responsibility for the incremental income. Just don't conflate the two concepts into a generalized for everyone not working excuse.

[Stu from NYC]

I agree, and the way to support it is though a tax on capital, as that is what replaced labor.
So all software amortization and software purchase and SAAS expense shall be disallowed expenses for corporate tax purposes.

And then the corporate tax is adjusted to include capital to fund this, as corporations US entities can't leave, including ones owned by intl holdings companies.

And raise the social security tax by increasing the percentage and removing the ceiling to tax all management employees, even with a graduated increasing scale for highly compensated ones, and then SS will survive a bit longer. . and I don't believe that these people will miss the increased tax, so save yourself from the theoretical arguments on tax disincentives. Working above UBI after tax gives you more spending opportunities than UBI or nothing at all.

In the post WWII and post the great depression, people still worked with the highest incremental tax rate approaching 70%. People won't stop working but there is a level at which each individual won't work harder or longer or want the additional responsibility for the incremental income. Just don't conflate the two concepts into a generalized for everyone not working excuse.

A tax on capital would be a terrible idea. Capital investment supplies jobs but why make investments that are at risk if you will not make a satisfactory return.

I do believe that many new jobs that we have no idea what they will be, are going to be coming.

Save SS by advancing the age as we live longer as well as continue to advance salary limits that people must pay into SS.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Capital investment supplies jobs.


That's the tipping point which we are slowly passing where the capital investment is going into replacing labor, and does not create jobs. Its not the same world as we worked in any more.

the dystopian technology advancement now is the final stages of technology development, excluding sentient which is technologist's masterbation, where more technology investment now replaces more and more jobs. .

[Caymus]

That's the tipping point which we are slowly passing where the capital investment is going into replacing labor, and does not create jobs. Its not the same world as we worked in any more.

the dystopian technology advancement now is the final stages of technology development, excluding sentient which is technologist's masterbation, where more technology investment now replaces more and more jobs. .

Capital investments have been replacing labor since civilization started. The only difference now is it may affect your type of job.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

Capital investments have been replacing labor since civilization started. The only difference now is it may affect your type of job.

so at what point are there not enough jobs to go around for a significant portion of the population to be able to afford to survive? Surely there is a tipping point if the trend keeps going and going as you have indicated. . or are there always jobs for everybody and unemployment is just a personal choice? certainly wasn't for me or my boss for 3 years at a stretch. .

[ehendersonjr]

Artificial intelligence is the natural replacement when you’ve lost natural intelligence.

[Sandy and Ed]

Elan Musk once said governments will need to
give citizens a guaranteed income since jobs will be taken over by AI.

[Sandy and Ed]

Lost jobs to AI will not be replaced by other jobs in other fields. Think carefully about how AI has already affected jobs. Not just entry level non-skilled clerical jobs. Combine AI with robotics and you can take over a lot of jobs.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Can always use more carpenters and plumbers.
Welders too.

[GizmoWhiskers]

so at what point are there not enough jobs to go around for a significant portion of the population to be able to afford to survive? Surely there is a tipping point if the trend keeps going and going as you have indicated. . or are there always jobs for everybody and unemployment is just a personal choice? certainly wasn't for me or my boss for 3 years at a stretch. .
Right.

But wait, I thought we need human workers in The Villages hence local government approving ENDLESS housing projects in The Villages area; or the open borders, did I miss a memo that we don't need more able bodies to do the things lazy people won't do? AI will be doing the jobs so we don't need local or national workers?? I can't keep up with the "whack a mole" game. Good thing AI can play it for me.

Was visiting IL. Cosmics (wanna be Starbucks competion), McDonald's prototype completely AI robotic restaurant in Naperville, IL, can't make a mocha frappe... so strange. Def don't need a Cosmics in T V. That would defeat the need for several appartment units in Wildwood too.

[spinner1001]

The people who will be mostly affected by this are people in minimum wage jobs who are easily replaced. People need to learn that minimum wage jobs are only entry level positions and people should look to advance from them.

AI is different from earlier technologies. AI will mainly affect college-educated, white-collar jobs — in positive and negative ways.

In Reversal Because of A.I., Office Jobs Are Now More at Risk - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/24/upshot/artificial-intelligence-jobs.html)

Which US workers are exposed to AI in their jobs? | Pew Research Center (https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2023/07/26/which-u-s-workers-are-more-exposed-to-ai-on-their-jobs/)

Interactive: What jobs is AI likely to disrupt? | Brookings (https://www.brookings.edu/articles/interactive-what-jobs-is-ai-likely-to-disrupt/)

[spinner1001]

I agree, and the way to support it is though a tax on capital, as that is what replaced labor.
So all software amortization and software purchase and SAAS expense shall be disallowed expenses for corporate tax purposes.

And then the corporate tax is adjusted to include capital to fund this, as corporations US entities can't leave, including ones owned by intl holdings companies.

And raise the social security tax by increasing the percentage and removing the ceiling to tax all management employees, even with a graduated increasing scale for highly compensated ones, and then SS will survive a bit longer. . and I don't believe that these people will miss the increased tax, so save yourself from the theoretical arguments on tax disincentives. Working above UBI after tax gives you more spending opportunities than UBI or nothing at all.

In the post WWII and post the great depression, people still worked with the highest incremental tax rate approaching 70%. People won't stop working but there is a level at which each individual won't work harder or longer or want the additional responsibility for the incremental income. Just don't conflate the two concepts into a generalized for everyone not working excuse.

The Fed can just print more money. /s

[Joe C.]

When AI is used, and it gives out incorrect or faulty information which results in serious injury or even death, then who is responsible? Today, it's common to hear that the computer is slow or the computer is down, or even the term "computer error". Yet if those attributes were applied to an employee, I'm pretty sure that "that" employee would be fired from his or her job.
I don't think that AI is the end all that people expect.
I would also hope that companies that do use AI to replace employees would be taxed at a much higher rate so as to supplement the unemployment they cause.

[CoachKandSportsguy]

I don't think that AI is the end all that people expect.
That was my first response, being a doubting Thomas to the core, may even be from Missouri. however, its kinda of like those D Cell batteries for your flashlight when you were a kid.

String enough of them together and next thing you know you are driving a car powered by them across the country. Human ingenuity knows no boundaries, which I love. . .

I would also hope that companies that do use AI to replace employees would be taxed at a much higher rate so as to supplement the unemployment they cause.

Yes, but the corporate influence on Congress now allowed after the stupidest supreme court decision won't allow it and will bankrupt the country. Brownian motion in the wrong direction. You will see the effect of this at some point in the future when US Treasury bond auctions start failing miserably and interest rates shoot up hawrribly high. . .

[oneclickplus]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements


Eh - taking fast food orders ... answering queries ... collecting tolls ... perfect use for computers (AI).

I'm not concerned at all though. AI will not be fixing my car, fixing my plumbing, doing electrical work, laying down carpet or wood floors, installing windows, building rockets, building highways, cutting lawns or planting landscaping, farming, cutting hair, building homes, building cars, delivering packages, fighting fires, responding to medical emergencies (ambulance), installing a new roof, cleaning my pool, dealing with crime, etc, etc, etc.

[Proveone]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements
So you are saying AI is replacing a fast food drive through order taker - a menial job, that no intelligent person should have to do anyway. This way, that human can go to school, learn a trade, or some other advanced skill and better their existence in society. Sounds good to me!

[rsmurano]

Everybody thinks AI is something new, it’s not. When I started in IT 48 years ago, I was reading books about AI, and back then, it was supposed to start impacting jobs in the 80’s. Computers didn’t put people out of work, it made people more efficient, and it created a whole new set of jobs.

If you really want to get worried about what is possible with AI, listen to some of Elon Musks talks/interviews about this subject.
Robots have replaced many jobs already that do the same task over and over, this isn’t AI. When AI gets to the point that AI robots/appliances are the ones creating the new batch of AI/robots/appliances, or a rogue country starts developing AI robots like Robo Cop to build an army of these things that can fight, fly, then we got problems

[D.C.Villager]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements

As we know, Automation has been replacing human workers for decades. The cycle continues

[GWilliams]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements

Same was said about cars, stocks, credit cards, crypto, bitcoin. Newer things will come.

[ThirdOfFive]

Kind of an overlap here with another discussion on this board about good science fiction reading, specifically the Harlan Ellison short story "I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream". Artificial intelligence run amok.

[hdanielblank]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements

Such fears have been with us since the 19th Century Industrial Revolution began as well documented in literature of that time (e.g., Dickens). Watch the 1935 movie Modern Times, 1973's Colossus The Forbin Project and many others. What actually happens is that humans migrate from these menial jobs to other jobs. The chief beneficiary of such change and growth has been the huge expansion of the leisure industry. As less time and physical energy is expended to work, demand increases for games, pampering, sporting activities, healthy pursuits, etc., and who-knows-what in the future.

One thing machines can't do is consume - and someone needs to get paid in order to spend money to maintain the machines they use. As long as we have a capitalistic society, humans need to be employed in order to spend on consumption. As long as corporation influence governments and governments are controlled by money, corporations will make sure that humans are employed.

Now, many humans will need to be retrained and be angry and resentful that things can't go on as they used to and that AI/machines have ruined society and made things more difficult instead of easier. Sound familiar? That's also been going on for centuries and here in The Villages, those complaints are endless.

But, the end of human employment and more poverty because of it? That is not the future of this country and the world - at least not if history is our guide and basic logic still applies.

[Justputt]

My grandfather heard the same thing about horseless carriages replacing real horse drawn wagons!!!!

[opinionist]

There was a time when most people were farmers and they worked sunup to sundown for 7 days a week. The advance of labor saving technology should reduce the burden on the workforce and allow people to work fewer hours. The 40 hour work week is an arbitrary standard that should be reduced with advances in technology. People like Klaus Schwab are the problem because they want people to "own nothing and be happy". We have lived with a dishonest money system our entire life and most people think it is normal to live paycheck to paycheck. The creature from Jekyll Island is worse than any science fiction monster. The dishonest money system siphons wealth from who they see as "useless eaters" and gives the "elites" ever more wealth and power.

[jimjamuser]

Can always use more carpenters and plumbers.
Houses can be built on an assembly line with fewer workers than on site. And have better quality control.

[jimjamuser]

Sounds very much like the concerns expressed way back when "...computers were going to replace humans" and then later came robotics in manufacturing were going to replace humans.

Somehow we have digested and acclimated to the opportunities opened/presented by the new technology........VS the sky is falling news/headlines back then and again now......but worse.

Way too much commentary by ANYBODY with a keyboard presenting every whim of the day as if with authority/validity. And unfortunately a population that now believes almost anything.....from ANYBODY.
Computers have replaced a lot of human jobs. For example, accounting departments used to keep the books of the business by hand entries before computers and printers. And robotics have replaced lots of manual factory jobs in manufacturing automobiles and tools.

[jimjamuser]

It doesn’t bother me that AI should be used a Fast Food restaurants rarely frequent them. Since many restaurants offer pay at table. I should be able to order from table so the meal order gets processed correctly. Just deliver it to the table requires minimum tipping.
If a robot delivered the meal, there would be no need for tipping.

[fishon]

If you lose your job to AI, just learn to write code.
Easy peezy.

[jimjamuser]

UBI, as the younger generations state, is anticipated by many now…. Universal Basic Income dished out by the government.
What I worry about is the illegal immigrants that are pouring across our southern and other open borders. Even after the language problems could be decreased, most will only have basic labor-type skills. So, the US could end up with up to 30% unemployed and under-employed extra people. If the Florida highways are any indication, the US is already overcrowded. A.I. and robotics are going to practically guarantee high unemployment.
......With factory jobs decreasing, the middle class is decreasing and has less power. The US is moving (due to tax percentages and intervals that favor the rich) toward having 2 classes - the highly educated upper class and the minimally educated low class together with the unemployables. And without a strong middle class America will cease to be America and an internal or external takeover is more possible.
............Moving manufacturing offshore to countries like China could have been the beginning of the end.
........Another problem associated with high unemployment would likely be more crime as people see their less successful future.

[jimjamuser]

I agree, and the way to support it is though a tax on capital, as that is what replaced labor.
So all software amortization and software purchase and SAAS expense shall be disallowed expenses for corporate tax purposes.

And then the corporate tax is adjusted to include capital to fund this, as corporations US entities can't leave, including ones owned by intl holdings companies.

And raise the social security tax by increasing the percentage and removing the ceiling to tax all management employees, even with a graduated increasing scale for highly compensated ones, and then SS will survive a bit longer. . and I don't believe that these people will miss the increased tax, so save yourself from the theoretical arguments on tax disincentives. Working above UBI after tax gives you more spending opportunities than UBI or nothing at all.

In the post WWII and post the great depression, people still worked with the highest incremental tax rate approaching 70%. People won't stop working but there is a level at which each individual won't work harder or longer or want the additional responsibility for the incremental income. Just don't conflate the two concepts into a generalized for everyone not working excuse.
I agree about raising the SS tax and with no ceiling. I also agree that when the US had a strong middle class (like around 1950) that the top tax rate was 70%. Today we have virtually no middle class. We see the problem, you are correct, but how to SOLVE the problem. The upper 1/10 of 1% runs America today and we won't be able to say to them, "mommy may we" please go back to 1950 tax rates.
.........And in 1950 there was about 125,000,000 people in the US. Now there are around 350,000,000 legal ones.
.........You mentioned some good answers to some problems. But, there are more problems that I can think of just off the top of my head. The Supreme Court needs term limits. Congress needs term limits. That won't happen. In my opinion, 4 people are controlling the US today. .........about 3 or 4 Supreme Court Justices and one man (with glasses) in the house.

[Topspinmo]

I think AI should take over management.

[Topspinmo]

What I worry about is the illegal immigrants that are pouring across our southern and other open borders. Even after the language problems could be decreased, most will only have basic labor-type skills. So, the US could end up with up to 30% unemployed and under-employed extra people. If the Florida highways are any indication, the US is already overcrowded. A.I. and robotics are going to practically guarantee high unemployment.
......With factory jobs decreasing, the middle class is decreasing and has less power. The US is moving (due to tax percentages and intervals that favor the rich) toward having 2 classes - the highly educated upper class and the minimally educated low class together with the unemployables. And without a strong middle class America will cease to be America and an internal or external takeover is more possible.
............Moving manufacturing offshore to countries like China could have been the beginning of the end.
........Another problem associated with high unemployment would likely be more crime as people see their less successful future.

What’s worry about they get free medical, free apartment, and money credited on their government credit card every month. Everyone walking around in new clothes, shoes, coat, and I phone.

[Topspinmo]

I think AI should eliminate members of congress.

[Topspinmo]

I agree about raising the SS tax and with no ceiling. I also agree that when the US had a strong middle class (like around 1950) that the top tax rate was 70%. Today we have virtually no middle class. We see the problem, you are correct, but how to SOLVE the problem. The upper 1/10 of 1% runs America today and we won't be able to say to them, "mommy may we" please go back to 1950 tax rates.
.........And in 1950 there was about 125,000,000 people in the US. Now there are around 350,000,000 legal ones.
.........You mentioned some good answers to some problems. But, there are more problems that I can think of just off the top of my head. The Supreme Court needs term limits. Congress needs term limits. That won't happen. In my opinion, 4 people are controlling the US today. .........about 3 or 4 Supreme Court Justices and one man (with glasses) in the house.

I disagree, lobbyists control country.

[opinionist]

"Universal Basic Income dished out by the government"

You get more of what you pay for.
Do we really need more unproductive people than we already have?

[frayedends]

If AI becomes truly self aware we won't likely need to worry about it being biased by it's programming. We won't need to worry about income either. If AI is self aware and has ambition and it is combined with robots/androids, it will likely wipe us out very quickly and efficiently, or ignore us.

Elon Musk talked about how it won't be like AI has a hatred of us and wants to kill us. It will kill us as a part of doing whatever it thinks should be done. He said something like, it will be like when we build a highway, we don't think about an ant hill in the way, we just build the road and kill all the ants.

[spinner1001]

Elon Musk talked about how it won't be like AI has a hatred of us and wants to kill us. It will kill us as a part of doing whatever it thinks should be done.

Or this?

[Shipping up to Boston]

For years Wendy’s has utilized remote workers/call centers....literally operating out of a residential property to streamline the drive thru experience. Nothing new here

[JMintzer]

I agree about raising the SS tax and with no ceiling. I also agree that when the US had a strong middle class (like around 1950) that the top tax rate was 70%. Today we have virtually no middle class. We see the problem, you are correct, but how to SOLVE the problem. The upper 1/10 of 1% runs America today and we won't be able to say to them, "mommy may we" please go back to 1950 tax rates.
.........And in 1950 there was about 125,000,000 people in the US. Now there are around 350,000,000 legal ones.
.........You mentioned some good answers to some problems. But, there are more problems that I can think of just off the top of my head. The Supreme Court needs term limits. Congress needs term limits. That won't happen. In my opinion, 4 people are controlling the US today. .........about 3 or 4 Supreme Court Justices and one man (with glasses) in the house.

No matter how many times, I've explained it to you, you keep repeating the 70% (you used to use 90%) tax lie...

NO ONE paid that much in taxes. There were so many loopholes available that tey ACTUALLY paid a LESSER percentage than they do today...

It's so easily confirmed (I've done it for you, multiple times), yet you continue to repeat the lie... Ponderous...

[spinner1001]

No matter how many times, I've explained it to you, you keep repeating the 70% (you used to use 90%) tax lie...

NO ONE paid that much in taxes. There were so many loopholes available that tey ACTUALLY paid a LESSER percentage than they do today...

It's so easily confirmed (I've done it for you, multiple times), yet you continue to repeat the lie... Ponderous...

And a lesson that correlation is not causation.

[PersonOfInterest]

Eh - taking fast food orders ... answering queries ... collecting tolls ... perfect use for computers (AI).

I'm not concerned at all though. AI will not be fixing my car, fixing my plumbing, doing electrical work, laying down carpet or wood floors, installing windows, building rockets, building highways, cutting lawns or planting landscaping, farming, cutting hair, building homes, building cars, delivering packages, fighting fires, responding to medical emergencies (ambulance), installing a new roof, cleaning my pool, dealing with crime, etc, etc, etc.

AI will eventually be able to do most if not all of what you've described. We're only seeing the very beginnings of what AI will ultimately be capable of.

[DebMil]

From a technical data web site, very impressive.




From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice interactions in drive throughs:


These will replace human labor, and the ratio of programmers to displaced humans is vastly sucked higher in displaced humans than programmers.

Don't believe the AI hype trying to downplay human replacements


For me, I never did think it was impossible. It started in the 80's with the ATM. Sunpass in the 90's, Both put millions out of work.
Then, Google, Bing, ask a question and get an answer. No more manual maps so no Companies needed to manufacture them. Less books = less Librarians stocking shelves and coding the books.

One of the first IPO's I read in establishing a line of credit for a client was in touch screen menus for the service staff to enter their orders. That was in 1997. Now, at McDonald's the customer enters that order. =more lost jobs.
AI has been on the move for 30 plus years.

For myself, I think mobile phones in the late 80s were imperative for safety and emergencies. Internet searches has made us lazy, addicted and robotic in our emotional connections.

[ChrisTinaBruce]

From the CEO of a public company vendor, $SOUN, which provides AI voice interactions to fast food restaurants implemented voice

Do you have Discord server link?

[Two Bills]

Time has shown that trying to soak the rich for taxes, always ends in failure.
They bury their wealth offshore, use all the loopholes in the tax system, and employ the best tax avoidance specialists money can buy.
Just take the self confessed, richest, smartest, greatest living businessman in the world at the moment, last I saw, he only paid $700+ for a years tax.
You will never get the wealthy to pay an equal percentage of their wealth in tax like the general working population, it's the ordinary guy/girl in the street paying theirs, that keeps the country from going totally broke.