Southern Oaks .... Impressive conditions today Saturday March 9, 2024

[Golden Domer]

Congratulations to the Staff at Southern Oaks.... what a pleasure to play a golf course in the Villages that I would be proud to take a guest too. ( Not many others in my opinion)

Great greens.... the strength of the course, good tee boxes and fairways, and very nice bunkers.......

Thanks To All working there!!

[dewilson58]

:BigApplause:

[waynet]

I agree. Maybe they should put those people in charge of all Championship courses.

[golfing eagles]

I agree. Maybe they should put those people in charge of all Championship courses.

Actually, they were the people taking care of Glenview, Lopez and TDS that were moved down there. The people taking care of Palmer now have those northern courses. God help them now.

[tophcfa]

Actually, they were the people taking care of Glenview, Lopez and TDS that were moved down there. The people taking care of Palmer now have those northern courses. God help them now.

Dam, there goes the neighborhood.

[golfing eagles]

Dam, there goes the neighborhood.

So now we'll see. One of the reasons cited for bad course conditions is bad maintenance crews. If the conditions on those 3 northern courses deteriorate over the rest of the year, we may have the answer.

[jarodrig]

Thanks for the review.

For the price they charge , I would expect no less …..

[Rwirish]

El Niño is very selective about which courses it attacks.

[golfing eagles]

El Niño is very selective about which courses it attacks.

Of "course" it is---just like a tornado that takes out one house and leaves the next one untouched. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl: And to think meteorologists think it's a global phenomenon. Golfers on Havana and Evans know better

[Rwirish]

Great shape but the have to light the turnpike noise, truck and car views and over priced green fees.

[golfing eagles]

I was also thinking about another poster's suggestions of both top agronomists and performance vs. task based contracts. Perhaps the recent improvements are simply the maintenance groups following a checklist for this time of year. After a sub-optimal winter we should expect improvement.

[wamley]

Yeah, thats a formula to produce the death of southern oaks.

[BrianL99]

I was also thinking about another poster's suggestions of both top agronomists and performance vs. task based contracts.


it's encouraging to see at least some folks actually read other's posts.

[SHIBUMI]

Cudo's on Oaks condition on 3/10.... only problem was the pro didn't come out after my round and pat me on the head and give me a lollipop.

:BigApplause:

[BrianL99]

Cudo's on Oaks condition on 3/10.... only problem was the pro didn't come out after my round and pat me on the head and give me a lollipop.

Not all PGA Professionals are great at the touchy-feeling thing. Many of them are too busy folding shirts and refereeing rules disagreements at the Women's Day Outing.

[SHIBUMI]

Very True on touchy feely, just not all people in general. Pros at private clubs need to be better smoozers to keep their jobs. In case you have not noticed, they hang shirts now, folding is old school. Rules disagreements are where all the exciting stuff happens, men and women. Always relied on the written word, USGA, so no job threat no matter the outcome. Grateful for that as the only rules everyone bends to are the rules of golf. If they are broken they get ostracized by the general population. No-one wants to be an outcast. If they are they eventually leave the club.

Not all PGA Professionals are great at the touchy-feeling thing. Many of them are too busy folding shirts and refereeing rules disagreements at the Women's Day Outing.

[BrianL99]

Grateful for that as the only rules everyone bends to are the rules of golf. If they are broken they get ostracized by the general population. No-one wants to be an outcast. If they are they eventually leave the club.

So we had a guy at IGC. Twice opponents walked off the course, during a Club Match Play Championship against the guy ... he was a known cheater.

Fast forward a few years, he's a member of another club I also belong to in NH. 2 day M/M, Point Quota. $100,000 Calcutta. A friend of mine had a syndicate and bought this guy's team at the auction. On the morning of the match, the syndicate owner goes to Mr. X and asks if he wants to buy 1/2 his team back. Hard "NO". Right before he tees off, the syndicate guy goes back to him, just to confirm. Mr. X gets nasty and tells the syndicate guy to "get lost, I don't want to buy any of my team".

Mr. X's team finishes the 1st day in the lead. They come in +10. He goes to the syndicate guy and say, "I want to buy 1/2 my team". Syndicate guy says, "I asked you twice and you refused". Mr. X says, "if you don't sell me 1/2, I'm going to tank it tomorrow".

I never saw his name on the Tee Sheet again.

[SHIBUMI]

Cheaters are ticking time bombs, self inflicted.


So we had a guy at IGC. Twice opponents walked off the course, during a Club Match Play Championship against the guy ... he was a known cheater.

Fast forward a few years, he's a member of another club I also belong to in NH. 2 day M/M, Point Quota. $100,000 Calcutta. A friend of mine had a syndicate and bought this guy's team at the auction. On the morning of the match, the syndicate owner goes to Mr. X and asks if he wants to buy 1/2 his team back. Hard "NO". Right before he tees off, the syndicate guy goes back to him, just to confirm. Mr. X gets nasty and tells the syndicate guy to "get lost, I don't want to buy any of my team".

Mr. X's team finishes the 1st day in the lead. They come in +10. He goes to the syndicate guy and say, "I want to buy 1/2 my team". Syndicate guy says, "I asked you twice and you refused". Mr. X says, "if you don't sell me 1/2, I'm going to tank it tomorrow".

I never saw his name on the Tee Sheet again.

[kkingston57]

Actually, they were the people taking care of Glenview, Lopez and TDS that were moved down there. The people taking care of Palmer now have those northern courses. God help them now.

Scary, only time will tell.

[Khougham]

������������*♂️It is only $5 more? Worth the price for actual grass on the course.

[ASage]

I played Southern Oaks today. It's still in GREAT condition. The superintendent has aerated (plugs) the rough in several areas.
One staff person at S.O. told me that the courses with big problems did not handle the wet conditions, causing greens to deteriorate rapidly. At one point, S.O. stopped watering greens for roughly 10 days! They also slit aerated (small holes, no plugs).
Some green superintendents are smarter than others.

[PoolBrews]

Interesting. The developer knows which crews are best and moves them to the new areas so the new courses look good. They know what works, but don't spend the time or money to ensure all crews know how to do this properly. Clear message here - screw folks who have already purchased.

[golfing eagles]

Interesting. The developer knows which crews are best and moves them to the new areas so the new courses look good. They know what works, but don't spend the time or money to ensure all crews know how to do this properly. Clear message here - screw folks who have already purchased.

Since any resident can play any course, that makes no sense. What would make sense is firing the incompetent maintenance companies and replacing them, as well as bringing in a few expert agronomists

[Bay Kid]

Since any resident can play any course, that makes no sense. What would make sense is firing the incompetent maintenance companies and replacing them, as well as bringing in a few expert agronomists

That would make sense but the companies probably can't find workers.

[golfing eagles]

That would make sense but the companies probably can't find workers.

When you look at who is doing the actual work, it's hard to believe there is a shortage. Whether they are trainable or not is another issue.