Dabney and 470, is noise an issue? Maybe Moultrie Creek instead...

[KimberlyOz]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

[Shipping up to Boston]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Exactly, if not for a little noise, definitely for privacy

[margaretmattson]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly
Moultrie Creek is by the new high school. You will hear stadium noise and daily band practice. Dabney was quiet each time I visited. If you can wait, more villages will be built. Will not take long because the roads are complete. I heard there will be no fences separating villas and designer homes in Moultrie Creek. Kissing lanais can be tricky. Sometimes, you get loud neighbors or pets.

[Decadeofdave]

You have to visit to make an informed decision. Possibly multi-visits. I would not buy in TV unless you stay here for at least a month.

[frayedends]

I can't answer on Dabney with a fence. I live in Lake Denham. It seems the turnpike noise is much worse. However, 470 at Dabney to the bridge over the turnpike has some of the worst paving I've seen. There is a plan to change 470 in this area to 4 lanes. That will result in nicely paved new roads so I'm hoping that the noise is lowered.

I can tell you that the weather makes an incredible difference on turnpike/470 noise. If it's cool and clear it's very loud at my house in Lake Denham.

[asianthree]

We live four streets from the turnpike with a wall, then private property. In the house backyard or pool, you have no idea what is beyond.

Depending on the weather we have humming noise which most don’t notice.

[milonrex]

We toured some of the Veranda Homes in Dabney. They we next to 470 and noise was an issue even with fencing and this was at midday.
We definitely want a Veranda home. Hoping they will open some lots for those in Shady Brook. We still have to sell our home so we’re hoping to purchase this fall.

[asianthree]

Our oldest just looked at verandas in Dabney backing up to 470, they found no issues with road noise. Their last house was just off 6 lane highway in St Paul. So 470 was quite for them. They request front bedroom hopefully have some humming turnpike noise to sleep

[Altavia]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Lived in a similar villa with a wall adjacent to 466A.

The noise from billy bob pickups with cut out mufflers woke us at 5am most mornings. You couldn't have a conversation on the phone sitting on the Lanai.

470 will be widened to 4 lanes.

[Rwirish]

You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.

[skippy05]

Do not buy within 1 mile of those roads. The noise varies wildly depending on temperature, humidity, wind direction. A far better option is a resale in northern portions and for many many reasons besides noise.

[huge-pigeons]

The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before. Plus the added cost of Leesburg taxes/bond, why??

[rustyp]

“The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of low price is forgotten.”
― Benjamin Franklin

[Robbb]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

IMHO, stay away from Dabney, I just rented there. It is just to far away from anything. It is closer to the Costco in Clearmont than in is to Lake Sumter.

[marsil]

The old saying "there's an a** for every seat!"

[asianthree]

You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.

Do not buy within 1 mile of those roads. The noise varies wildly depending on temperature, humidity, wind direction. A far better option is a resale in northern portions and for many many reasons besides noise.

The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before. Plus the added cost of Leesburg taxes/bond, why??

Those with no experience of living south of 44 shouldn’t give advice of things they can only guess.

One has to remember you are happy with your home, the bond that came with it, as did your taxes, but can’t understand why thousands are happy with whatever they’re home back up to.

Many have left the SS, and LSL areas you speak of to live south of 44.
After 3 houses starting in 2007, in the North we are finally very happy living south of 44 with less traffic, great walking paths, less retail, quick access to turnpike, parks and Shopping without it in our backyard. Bonus a much younger generation of friends and neighbors.

About 60% of residents in our village left their homes north of 44 to move south.

[nn0wheremann]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly
If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

[GizmoWhiskers]

Exactly, if not for a little noise, definitely for privacy
If one stands in front of the house they will find that the noise from the road actually "bounces" inward to the houses across the street and in further inward. The fence is a very good thing for direct relation to the road.

DeLuna has villas up against the turnpike. I wanted to check that out one day and found that to happen. Across the street I heard it. Further in I could hear the turnpike. If you are used to busy road no problem.

[BostonTom]

I would really wait few months they are building courtyard villas across the street from Richmond right outside of Brownwood Square. Great location PM me we recently purchased in that area. We are from Boston area

[GizmoWhiskers]

You should visit each season probably over 2 years before making any rush decision. Manu locations south of 44 are less then ideal.
Funny thing on this idea is one can't keep it in a bottle.

In two years one will have the same type of question on a new, location but the same cyclical answer would exist. Renting for 6 months maybe but two years seems kinda long.

Two years from now T V will be almost at Center Hill I believe I read. I agree south of St Catherine and Middleton areas is not the Villages of yeaster years.

They sell Eastport as the new center... which is changing when they add south of the old 470 they have another center being "dreamed" as the future vision.

Gold Wing Nut says every 5 miles they put a square but those squares get smaller and smaller. There is no shopping larger retails planned anytime soon so Clermont, Leesburg or heck Westly Chapel and Tampa for those needs as they spread south of Middleton over the next 15 years or so.

Close to Brownwood is where I would stay. I moved north of 44 for retail shopping and The Villages charm via Golf Cart.

[BostonTom]

PM me were are from Boston area I will offer you some really good advice.

[kimgarwel12@gmail.com]

We have a "privacy fence" 8 feet from the side of our house. It gives us privacy in that we can't look directly into the neighbor's lanai and vice versa. However, it does nothing for screening noise. From the neighbors fighting to loud pool parties to dogs barking, we hear it all! On some nights, we can hear turnpike traffic and we're at least a mile, if not further, from that roadway. With as close as the homes are in TV, you're not going to avoid noise pollution.

[Billy1]

It's hard to get a tee time in the villages.

[Heytubes]

I bought within sight of 466 and haven’t any issues with noise, just having to blow leaves off my patio because of all the large beautiful older trees. Plus, no bond and close to many shopping opportunities. Welcome to the bubble.

[samquiros]

I live in DeLuna about a block from the turnpike. We’ve been here a year. I can tell you that yes, you can hear noise from the turnpike. But you have to hear it for yourself to decide if it bothers you or not. Don’t take other people’s word for it.

Inside the house you hear absolutely nothing. When I am in the lanai, I can hear a faint background noise, like a “swoosh” of the cars passing, very faint. It does not bother me. It may bother you. It may not. Some people find the noise unacceptable. That is up to them to decide that. I find it quite acceptable and not bothersome at all.

We are looking to move to Moultrie Creek. We tried one of the first Verandas but were unable to get it. Let me tell you, the noise from the school is a lot worse than the turnpike. Again, inside the house you hear nothing. But in the lanai you WILL hear the cheering, the announcer, and the band. Those sounds did not bother us. They may bother you. To each their own.

[defrey12]

If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

Yes, and all of your VERY elderly neighbors won’t leave you alone and the traffic is HORRIBLE! It’s quiet and vibrant in the South.

[defrey12]

I would really wait few months they are building courtyard villas across the street from Richmond right outside of Brownwood Square. Great location PM me we recently purchased in that area. We are from Boston area

Are you sure about that? Typically, “the walls” are the first things to go up and there are no walls yet.

[Bbrant]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

I cannot answer your question but am from southeast Ma, look me up when you come

[BlueStarAirlines]

The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before.

Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

[Marathon Man]

If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

And if you want an exciting active life, look south. We moved down here four years ago from the northern area and have not regretted it a single second.

[maistocars]

If choosing between the two, my choice is Moultrie Creek. Much less noisy and will way closer to Eastport.

[jrref]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Just remember, in addition to noise, when you live near the turnpike or any major road, especially with trucks going by every day, you are breathing in all that pollution 24x7, 365. No wall or landscaping is going to stop that.

[MikeN]

The villages is not quiet. Simple as that. We are in the Newell Loop area. While the fence helps and gives privacy a lot depends on wind direction. Spend some time where you are thinking about. Good luck. Also from Boston here

[Shipping up to Boston]

And if you want an exciting active life, look south. We moved down here four years ago from the northern area and have not regretted it a single second.

So it’s true....the war between the North and the South marches on! ;)

[Pat2015]

Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

It won’t be far from Eastport and there’s 4 executive and 3 championship golf courses going into the area. No need to go to Brownwood with all that the Eastport area will have to offer. Stores will come but in the meantime it’s a short ride on 470 to 27 where Publix, Winn Dixie, and every store that you need is right there. Good luck to the OP in your search for a brand new house here in TV.

[Pat2015]

If you want to live in a treeless reclaimed swamp, go for it. If you like peace and quiet and a pleasant experience look up north of CR 466. Little or no infrastructure bond, and in Marion County a stable tax situation.

I’m thinking that the OP doesn’t want a 15 or 20+ year old house and wants to start out in a new house with all new neighbors in an up and coming area close to Eastport. I think that’s a great place to buy for newbies and that’s where I’d be looking if I was just coming here, as I did some years ago when Brownwood was still under construction. New house, new square, and lots of younger retirees looking to make friends and start their new lives here in TV. Eastport is going to be a great addition to TV and will be a fun place to be.

[Stu from NYC]

I would and we did rent for a month before deciding we wanted to move here.

If close to a source of noise spend a lot of time there to decide what it is like.

In addition you will be a long way from shopping and other amenities for quite some time as building goes on and stores come in. Are you ok with that? Brownwood area is 10 years old and stores are still coming.

[TerryCamlin]

Noise is definitely an issue with a lot of new homes south of 44. I still do not realize the lure of the new homes vs resales? I have been in the Villages 4 years full time. I think north of 44 has so much more to offer as far as amenities pools, Rec Centers etc., I have 5 pools, 2 rec centers and 2 Championship Golf Course within the 2 miles of my street. There are a lot of investment properties in Villa's and Courtyards. A lot allow pets and children. Being closer to Disney and being next to a rental where the people change out weekly would be my major concern down near Dabney or Denham and the newest which I do not know the names of. I am also a landlord which does not allow either but most do because the new properties do not attract the older crowd who comes here in the winter months they usually get the newbies who have no idea they just rented in an area where they will have to travel to get to major squares, shopping etc., I would strongly suggest you do not buy over the internet. You need to come here for at least a week to see for yourself. Be aware also of the Federal prisons, quarry that the Realtors will never tell you about. The home next to me is for sale in Gilchrist. The potential buyer came to talk to me specifically to see if the area was owners vs renters. We are all owners. Makes a big difference trust me on this one. Plus we have landscaping and the homes are way more attractive in my opinion. There are also a lot of homes less than a year old for sale down south from people who did buy in without doing their homework that you can pick up cheap. There is no fire sale there are plenty of homes to pick up here so do your homework. Also be aware that a lot of our golf courses are in horrible shape if you are coming for that. Too many people and the courses have not kept up.

[vinnytalk]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

You should sit there at different times to see for yourself.

[Karmanng]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly

Personally I would not buy a new home there.......I would wait and buy pre owned in the area after its built up........I am in the middle right now and its a great location.........AND Im close to eastport and brownwood

[vinricci]

Do absolutely have to have a new home? Plenty of pre- owned choices up north in established neighborhoods.

[jimjamuser]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney. There is a fence, does that help with road noise? We are relocating from the Boston area and the front of our home sits about 30 feet off of a busy road. No fence. So I'm not familiar with how the fence blocks the sound, or if it doesn't.

I do like the idea of the fences in Dabney, I think it adds some nice privacy.

The other option is the new villa's that are available in Moultrie Creek. Decisions decisions ;)

Thank you!
Kimberly
Relocating? I hope that you are aware that the summers here get very HOT. But, if you insist, I would locate within walking distance of a Recreation Dept that has a swimming pool to keep cool in.

[Villagesgal]

Keep in mind that in many of the areas south of 466 you will be paying County and City property tax which will add an additional few thousand dollars to your property taxes. You will also have fewer amenities, pay more for city water, sewer and garbage adding an additional few hundred dollars per month to your cost of living and of course have a $25,000 plus additional bond to pay off. Most every home north of 466 has the bond already paid off, has mature landscaping, pays lower taxes and monthly costs and has plenty of new younger owners buying in, also they have many less homes being rented out weekly, so you have more stable neighbors, lots less noise and no construction traffic. Not saying one area is better than the other, just giving you monetary and other things to consider. Do come down several times to check out all the areas before you buy. Been here 21+ years and love it here.

[Pennyt]

Unless the fence is concrete and above your head, it will not stop noise. Trees and shrubs will not stop noise either. They are great for privacy, but I was told by a noise expert long ago that if water can pass through any barrier, so will noise.

[virtue51]

With the thousands of homes in The Villages, why would you select a home near a highway or busy road? When it comes to real estate -- Location.... Location.... Location.

[skippy05]

Asianthree's advice not to listen to those with no experience is incorrect. I lived in that area and sold because of the road noise. You must know that weather changes the sound levels all throughout the day and drastically so.

[LianneMigiano]

We've been here almost 14 years and barely ever hear any sounds from either the road or the golf cart traffic behind us all day. There is a 6-foot-tall wall behind our courtyard villas - which I'm guessing mitigates much of the noise....

[vintageogauge]

IMHO, stay away from Dabney, I just rented there. It is just to far away from anything. It is closer to the Costco in Clearmont than in is to Lake Sumter.

But very close to all that is going to be at Eastlake, no need to go to Lake Sumter.

[chrisinva]

This is a complex question to answer. There are numerous and varied factors to consider as noted by the numerous & varied responses. Bottom line – it’s a very subjective issue, as noted by the numerous & varied responses.
We were in the same position as you a few years ago. We drove to the empty lot we had selected for our future retirement home. It was about 8 pm, rolled down the windows & listened for the turnpike. Immediately, it was too loud for us so we transferred the downpayment to a spec house about 1 mile away. We’ve been here now for 5 years. We still hear the turnpike albeit not 100% of the time but in the mornings (Mondays especially) & frequently at night, around 9:30 pm when we retire. Even with all windows closed, locked & the AC on, we can hear it. On Monday mornings, I sometimes awake to the sound of tires rolling at 5 am. We’re not pleased but we’re not moving again. Some of the factors we didn’t know or consider: 1) the open land between us & turnpike, 2) the pond outside our bedroom/lanai/kitchen windows, 3) the lack of trees & large bushes between us & turnpike, 4) how easily sound travels in colder (40 degree) weather. So it all depends on what you can live with and what you choose not to live with. Fences are worthless for sound absorbancy. Also, be aware of the quarry off 470, not just the occasional blasting but the rock grinding at night. Good luck

[JMintzer]

And if you want an exciting active life, look south. We moved down here four years ago from the northern area and have not regretted it a single second.

Yes, our life north of 44 (Osceola Hills, Soaring Eagle) is boring and stagnant... Nothing to do, no one leaves their house...

Wait, what? I'm in 2 golf groups, we have a monthly Village event, driveway and block parties. My wife is in two Mah Jong groups, two golf groups, two different women's social groups.

We play pickleball once or twice a week, she goes to exercise classes most mornings when we're not play golf/pickleball...

Somebody please save us from our life of boredom!

What many don't realize is that "all of those old people" up north are leaving and are being replaced by the same "young vibrant people" who you claim are only moving to the south of 44...

That said, I did play golf with a wonderful gentleman, a few weeks ago. He's a 40 year resident of TV. Still in his original home. He told me stories about dealing with Harold Schwartz personally when he bought his house...

Pretty sure he shot his age...

[JMintzer]

Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

Last I checked, Morse and Meggison also travel south of 44...

And traffic on the Turnpike is indeed "constant". Much more so that the traffic on Morse or Meggison...

[Shipping up to Boston]

Yes, our life north of 44 (Osceola Hills, Soaring Eagle) is boring and stagnant... Nothing to do, no one leaves their house...

Wait, what? I'm in 2 golf groups, we have a monthly Village event, driveway and block parties. My wife is in two Mah Jong groups, two golf groups, two different women's social groups.

We play pickleball once or twice a week, she goes to exercise classes most mornings when we're not play golf/pickleball...

Somebody please save us from our life of boredom!

What many don't realize is that "all of those old people" up north are leaving and are being replaced by the same "young vibrant people" who you claim are only moving to the south of 44...

That said, I did play golf with a wonderful gentleman, a few weeks ago. He's a 40 year resident of TV. Still in his original home. He told me stories about dealing with Harold Schwartz personally when he bought his house...

Pretty sure he shot his age...

If you use a 35 square mile sample size in anywhere USA...you could not possibly comment on quality of life issues unless you actually lived in each of those ‘communities’ at some point. It’s ridiculous and/or impossible. It amazes me how some people equate TV to a dead end street or cul de sac. Smh

[JMintzer]

Many in the north make comments like this about the turnpike, but fail to acknowledge the noise on Morse, Meggison, and 44. Having lived both in the north and south, I'll take the occasional hum of the turnpike verses the constant road noise from cars and golf carts on Morse\Meggison.

The OP is right, it is far from Brownwood....but not far from Middleton. Many in the north haven't kept up with the building in the south and how close things will be.

Sadly, Dabney is only close to Middleton by car. By golf cart, it's a hike...

[vintageogauge]

Yes, our life north of 44 (Osceola Hills, Soaring Eagle) is boring and stagnant... Nothing to do, no one leaves their house...

Wait, what? I'm in 2 golf groups, we have a monthly Village event, driveway and block parties. My wife is in two Mah Jong groups, two golf groups, two different women's social groups.

We play pickleball once or twice a week, she goes to exercise classes most mornings when we're not play golf/pickleball...

Somebody please save us from our life of boredom!

What many don't realize is that "all of those old people" up north are leaving and are being replaced by the same "young vibrant people" who you claim are only moving to the south of 44...

That said, I did play golf with a wonderful gentleman, a few weeks ago. He's a 40 year resident of TV. Still in his original home. He told me stories about dealing with Harold Schwartz personally when he bought his house...

Pretty sure he shot his age...

Someday you'll stop ragging on the South of 44 Villages. Those of you north of 44 are quite happy as are those of us south of 44 so why continue the bashing and bragging it is not very. becoming of you.

[JMintzer]

So it’s true....the war between the North and the South marches on! ;)

And they complain it's the people from "north of 44" who trash the southern villages...

Pot, meet kettle...

[JMintzer]

I’m thinking that the OP doesn’t want a 15 or 20+ year old house and wants to start out in a new house with all new neighbors in an up and coming area close to Eastport. I think that’s a great place to buy for newbies and that’s where I’d be looking if I was just coming here, as I did some years ago when Brownwood was still under construction. New house, new square, and lots of younger retirees looking to make friends and start their new lives here in TV. Eastport is going to be a great addition to TV and will be a fun place to be.

There are plenty of homes for sale north of 44 that are under 10 years old... I know... I bought one 3 years ago, built in 2017...

[LeRoySmith]

Looking into the patio villas that back up to 470 in Dabney.

Hey Kimberly

There's a lot of great advice on the thread so far. It took us about a year to go through the process your on now. We looked north and south and everything you've heard so far is true to some extent. The North has very nice landscaping, is busier, the people tend to be a little older in general but there is a mix of ages. We decided we would live in the South, we looked right along 470 in Dabney first but decided we didn't like the road. We bought near the back of Lake Denham, the noise situation is muc better but you still hear the turnpike some when conditions are right. We have a neighbor with a big voice and I hear her 10 times more than I do the road.... In the end we just spent a lot of time sitting in various places at various times and that helped us decide. If you end up here the stores are close enough, Brownwood is 12 minutes by car via the turnpike, Sawgrass is 7 minutes by golf cart. The neighbors are great and like minded to new villagers (I'm sure the bar majority of neighbors in the North are great too). When they build Eastport and all that comes with it I think we will be about 6 minutes by cart or 15 by car once all the paths are open. If they build a hospital and major commercial at the south side of 470 and the turnpike as planned that will be a 3 or 4 minute car ride (if they build a cart path with 470 expansion it would be about the same on a cart).

I think in the end it came down to the houses available in both areas, we felt like the South fit us better. New house, new people, tons of paths, lots of rec centers (not nearly as many golf courses but we don't golf {yet}. After you rent a few times in each end and spend some time knocking around it will come to you.

[JMintzer]

I would and we did rent for a month before deciding we wanted to move here.

If close to a source of noise spend a lot of time there to decide what it is like.

In addition you will be a long way from shopping and other amenities for quite some time as building goes on and stores come in. Are you ok with that? Brownwood area is 10 years old and stores are still coming.

That is an unfortunate reality...

They had to put in a temporary gas station for the carts (that were land locked) west of the the turnpike. It took more than a few years for that Publix on Warm Springs to open and even longer to finally get a gas station...

We looked in Chitty Chatty, Bradford and St Catherine when we were shopping for a home. Fenney was just too isolated "for us" at the time.

Unfortunately, the plethora of power lines was a non-starter for SWMBO...

[JMintzer]

If you use a 35 square mile sample size in anywhere USA...you could not possibly comment on quality of life issues unless you actually lived in each of those ‘communities’ at some point. It’s ridiculous and/or impossible. It amazes me how some people equate TV to a dead end street or cul de sac. Smh

Don't know why you quoted me with that response, but I agree with what you said...

[JMintzer]

Someday you'll stop ragging on the South of 44 Villages. Those of you north of 44 are quite happy as are those of us south of 44 so why continue the bashing and bragging it is not very. becoming of you.

Show me where I've made posts "ragging" on the south of 44... Oh, wait... I haven't...

If you actually read the post I responded to, you would see I was simply commenting on a poster, who lives in the south who was ragging on those living in the north... He said "And if you want an exciting active life, look south."

The reality is, I've consistently posted that the north/south argument is ridiculous and one should be happy wherever they decide to live...

Go complain to someone else... Someone who is actually guilty of what you're complaining about...

[Shipping up to Boston]

Don't know why you quoted me with that response, but I agree with what you said...

Sorry was just expanding on your point....

[sowilts]

We live four streets from the turnpike with a wall, then private property. In the house backyard or pool, you have no idea what is beyond.

Depending on the weather we have humming noise which most don’t notice.
Live at Linden and on some days also here Turnpike tire noise. Since Wildwood has stepped up traffic tickets on Warm Springs the car and trucks have slowed down.

[JMintzer]

Sorry was just expanding on your point....

:coolsmiley:

[vintageogauge]

Show me where I've made posts "ragging" on the south of 44... Oh, wait... I haven't...

If you actually read the post I responded to, you would see I was simply commenting on a poster, who lives in the south who was ragging on those living in the north... He said "And if you want an exciting active life, look south."

The reality is, I've consistently posted that the north/south argument is ridiculous and one should be happy wherever they decide to live...

Go complain to someone else... Someone who is actually guilty of what you're complaining about...

You continually bash south of 44 and again, it's not becoming. Enjoy the north and allow those below 44 to enjoy the south. This guilt is yours.

[kansasr]

Keep in mind that in many of the areas south of 466 you will be paying County and City property tax which will add an additional few thousand dollars to your property taxes. You will also have fewer amenities, pay more for city water, sewer and garbage adding an additional few hundred dollars per month to your cost of living and of course have a $25,000 plus additional bond to pay off. Most every home north of 466 has the bond already paid off, has mature landscaping, pays lower taxes and monthly costs and has plenty of new younger owners buying in, also they have many less homes being rented out weekly, so you have more stable neighbors, lots less noise and no construction traffic. Not saying one area is better than the other, just giving you monetary and other things to consider. Do come down several times to check out all the areas before you buy. Been here 21+ years and love it here.

Don't be scared by statements like this "an additional few thousand dollars to your property taxes" if you have city property tax. ON a $300,000 assed value, in Lady Lake, their millage rate of 3.3962 would equal $1018.86. Fruitland Park is 3.9134 or $1174.02. Leesburg is 3.4752 or $1042.56 and Wildwood is 2.8287 or $848.61.

Hardly a "few thousand dollars"

[PersonOfInterest]

The villages is so big, why would anybody want to build next to a hwy? Fence or no fence, you will hear the traffic. If you think making 470 into 4 lanes will make it quieter, there is a reason why they need 4 lanes, and that’s because of more traffic coming, not less.
Also, this area is so far away from any activities. If you want to take your golf cart to golf anywhere near the 466a area, or go to Brownwood or lake sumter square in a golf cart, you will need to leave the day before. Plus the added cost of Leesburg taxes/bond, why??

Those are all things that matter to YOU, but they may not matter to the OP.

[thelegges]

Live at Linden and on some days also here Turnpike tire noise. Since Wildwood has stepped up traffic tickets on Warm Springs the car and trucks have slowed down.

After living near LSL for over 10 years watching speeding Lawn companies, UPS and FedEx never worried about a traffic ticket.

Bonus of living south of 44 is Wildwood department actually stops speeders and writes tickets.

I stop every time at their booth during events to thank them for their excellent work.

[Justputt]

As the crow flies, we're 500 yds from 470 and a mile from the TP. Don't hear either. I like being close to 470 for ease of access to shopping along 27, I can jump right on the TP (about a mile), etc. and it's only about 4.5 miles to Eastport, which makes it a very fast drive (not the 20-30 mph drive like most in TV). Golf situation in Dabney is less than poor, but it is quiet, less likely to be the rental nightmare around the Town Square areas and the busy streets and noise near new school and young people neighborhoods. We've met most of our neighbors and none are rentals so far.

[OhioBuckeye]

If you don’t want noise you better look for a pre-pwned inside TV, where there’s other homes.

[JMintzer]

You continually bash south of 44 and again, it's not becoming. Enjoy the north and allow those below 44 to enjoy the south. This guilt is yours.

Show me one post. Here's a tip... You can't because I don't do it...

The mistake is yours...

[Stu from NYC]

Show me one post. Here's a tip... You can't because I don't do it...

The mistake is yours...

Not even once?:a20:

[Papa_lecki]

You continually bash south of 44 and again, it's not becoming. Enjoy the north and allow those below 44 to enjoy the south. This guilt is yours.

I think Dr JM lives as close to 44, without being south of 44. Not sure why he would bash the north or south area, he gets the enjoy both.

I am in the same boat. I spend as much time at Sawgrass as I do at LSL.

[JMintzer]

Not even once?:a20:

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[JMintzer]

I think Dr JM lives as close to 44, without being south of 44. Not sure why he would bash the north or south area, he gets the enjoy both.

I am in the same boat. I spend as much time at Sawgrass as I do at LSL.

Correct... But maybe a bit more time at LSL, definitely more time @ Brownwood... But that's for the restaurants...

I AM a frequent flier @ Fenney Grill...

[KimberlyOz]

I live in DeLuna about a block from the turnpike. We’ve been here a year. I can tell you that yes, you can hear noise from the turnpike. But you have to hear it for yourself to decide if it bothers you or not. Don’t take other people’s word for it.

Inside the house you hear absolutely nothing. When I am in the lanai, I can hear a faint background noise, like a “swoosh” of the cars passing, very faint. It does not bother me. It may bother you. It may not. Some people find the noise unacceptable. That is up to them to decide that. I find it quite acceptable and not bothersome at all.

We are looking to move to Moultrie Creek. We tried one of the first Verandas but were unable to get it. Let me tell you, the noise from the school is a lot worse than the turnpike. Again, inside the house you hear nothing. But in the lanai you WILL hear the cheering, the announcer, and the band. Those sounds did not bother us. They may bother you. To each their own.

I currently live on a busy street south of Boston. 40MPH speed limit, 25 feet from my front door and I'm ok with it. I think I'll be ok ***giggle***

[KimberlyOz]

As the crow flies, we're 500 yds from 470 and a mile from the TP. Don't hear either. I like being close to 470 for ease of access to shopping along 27, I can jump right on the TP (about a mile), etc. and it's only about 4.5 miles to Eastport, which makes it a very fast drive (not the 20-30 mph drive like most in TV). Golf situation in Dabney is less than poor, but it is quiet, less likely to be the rental nightmare around the Town Square areas and the busy streets and noise near new school and young people neighborhoods. We've met most of our neighbors and none are rentals so far.

Thank you! Awesome. This is the information I was looking for. We currently live up north 1KM from interstate 95, 1/2 mile from the amtrak, 500 yards from a major road way and there's a 40MPH highly traveled road 25 feet outside my front door. Oh, I almost forgot a small airport. Sounds like Dabney will be silent compared to what I hear LOL

[Shipping up to Boston]

I currently live on a busy street south of Boston. 40MPH speed limit, 25 feet from my front door and I'm ok with it. I think I'll be ok ***giggle***

You go girl. 617 Represent ;)

[Kelevision]

If it were me… I’d choose Dabney. A quick hop onto the turnpike and to Orlando in 45 minutes or less depending… plus Moultrie creek is so close to the High School. I feel like that would be noisier. Also, noise isn’t really a factor with the windows closed which they will be 90-100% of the time so if you’re outside you might hear cars driving. Definitely go for the fence.

[VApeople]

Moultrie creek is so close to the High School. I feel like that would be noisier.

That is a very good point. With the High School being nearby and all of the new stores being built, it is very hard to predict how life would be living in Moultrie Creek.

The problem with Dabney is that it is very hard to turn left on 470. I bet 470 will be widened and there will be a stop light at the Meggison-470 intersection, but who knows when?

[BubblesandPat]

I always find these "discussions " interesting. Everyone is correct..its all what you want. Visit explore and decide on what is important to you. We came from a small town in NC and it took 30 minutes to go to the grocery store an hour to the doctor. We had a winding country road in front of our house with constant motorcycle and loud pickup trucks. We moved here to Citrus Grove and driving 20 minutes to Publix in our gold cart is a dream! Its so pretty! Sawgrass is extremely close as well as many rec centers. Have found the people here very friendly and laid back. We bought a home that was 2 years old barely lived in and got a great price. We liked up north but found the homes we could afford outdated and needed work. Again I have to emphasize what we could afford. We haven't been here very long and are still adjusting but oh my gosh we love it!
So really just explore go by what you want spend time looking at each area and go with your heart
Enjoy!

[Snakster66]

I find it fascinating that people often site the football stadium (and associated noise) as a reason to avoid Moultrie Creek. How many home football games do you think they play a year?

But traffic (and traffic noise) on a busy road is everyday.

Full disclosure, we aren't looking at either area for non-noise related reasons. But if we were, I'd be much more wary of house/road proximity than I would be worrying about house/stadium proximity.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I find it fascinating that people often site the football stadium (and associated noise) as a reason to avoid Moultrie Creek. How many home football games do you think they play a year?

But traffic (and traffic noise) on a busy road is everyday.

Full disclosure, we aren't looking at either area for non-noise related reasons. But if we were, I'd be much more wary of house/road proximity than I would be worrying about house/stadium proximity.

Agree. I know of many affluent homes and neighborhoods that abut athletic campuses. If you know that when buying in...it is what it is. Definitely not an automatic disqualification for me....

[Marathon Man]

That is a very good point. With the High School being nearby and all of the new stores being built, it is very hard to predict how life would be living in Moultrie Creek.

The problem with Dabney is that it is very hard to turn left on 470. I bet 470 will be widened and there will be a stop light at the Meggison-470 intersection, but who knows when?

I have never had a problem making that left turn.

[Velvet]

Yes, and all of your VERY elderly neighbors won’t leave you alone and the traffic is HORRIBLE! It’s quiet and vibrant in the South.

Not sure what you mean by the above sentence. Yesterday I went to Mira Mesa for golf for the first time. Six years ago I made an offer on one of the houses by the first tee, from up north without having seen the house. But I knew the area since my relatives lived a block away. The real estate agent blew an almost done deal by announcing to me, “Hurry up with the papers, I am going on a cruise next week!” Hmmm instead, I bought at Mallory Sq near Lake Sumter (with a different agent).

I finally got a look at that house (on the outside) which I almost bought. What struck me most of all was the quiet, the serenity in the area, the huge oak trees, shade everywhere. Almost like living in a park. I love Mallory but I think that the Mira Mesa house would have made me quite happy. I live in a cosmopolitan area up north and had it with the noise. Some people never get used to noise pollution.

[VApeople]

I have never had a problem making that left turn.

That's what the residents of Chitty Chatty said when their village opened up. With all of the traffic going north on Morse, it is a different story now.

The traffic on 470 is going to get heavier every year, making a left turn from Meggison onto 470 more and more difficult.

[frayedends]

That's what the residents of Chitty Chatty said when their village opened up. With all of the traffic going north on Morse, it is a different story now.

The traffic on 470 is going to get heavier every year, making a left turn from Meggison onto 470 more and more difficult.

I'm in Lake Denham (part time for now). When I come down full time I will be making that left turn quite often for anything in Leesburg. I have had no problem there yet. But then again I'm from Boston. Not much on the road intimidates me. :D

[Altavia]

I'm in Lake Denham (part time for now). When I come down full time I will be making that left turn quite often for anything in Leesburg. I have had no problem there yet. But then again I'm from Boston. Not much on the road intimidates me. :D

470 is on the list for expansion to 4 lanes so either a traffic light or roundabout may be in the future.

[VApeople]

470 is on the list for expansion to 4 lanes so either a traffic light or roundabout may be in the future.

Have you ever gone down Warm Springs Road (AKA Route 468) and tried to turn left on Route 301?

Yes, eventually Route 301 will be 4-lanes and there will be a traffic light where it intersects Warm Springs Road, but when? Same as the 470/Meggison intersection, at some point in the future.

[Normal]

Hopefully you find what YOU like! Certainly don’t go by the maps and charts that don’t represent the other sense issues like line of sight, sound or smell. Make more than one visit to the area. Dabney itself has some issues:

It is remote, golf cart rides anywhere would be extensive
It is less desirable than most other villages to live in. Resale would correlate.
470 is an unknown and will likely be widened. Central Parkway says it all.

Don’t be in a rush for purchase, home prices are still dropping in The Villages. Inventory, not just in the Villages but statewide is surging toward all time highs.

[CarlR33]

I find it fascinating that people often site the football stadium (and associated noise) as a reason to avoid Moultrie Creek. How many home football games do you think they play a year?
LOL, where do you think the band practices on a daily basis during the late summer through the end of the band season in November?

[Randall55]

I find it fascinating that people often site the football stadium (and associated noise) as a reason to avoid Moultrie Creek. How many home football games do you think they play a year?

But traffic (and traffic noise) on a busy road is everyday.

Full disclosure, we aren't looking at either area for non-noise related reasons. But if we were, I'd be much more wary of house/road proximity than I would be worrying about house/stadium proximity. Not just noise from the stadium deterred me from buying. It was also the unknown. Are they going to have concerts there? What about the bright lights? There is a hotel planned beside, what is the real purpose? Will there be many sporting events or other events throughout the year? What will the traffic be like in that area? I noticed at least one of the roads may be used by hundreds daily to cut through the Villages. Short term rentals? Probably! The location is perfect. It is near the stadium, between two squares, with a championship golf course and country club nestled in between. Development in that area will include an ABUNDANCE of patio villas. Cheap way for investors to earn rental income.

How busy will Middleton be? Again, traffic is a concern. Problems with youth? We were all young once, it is bound to happen. There are no walls separating designer homes from patio villas increasing the number of kissing lanais. Construction in front of that area will continue for YEARS. Will there be a lot of rerouting? Why so many office buildings? Plus a few more. I suggest visiting the area and open your eyes to the surroundings before purchasing.

[Snakster66]

LOL, where do you think the band practices on a daily basis during the late summer through the end of the band season in November?

Having a son who did marching band in high school, and currently in the Pride of the Southland Marching Band, I am fully aware that the marching band practices frequently for a couple months in the late summer and fall...for a couple hours tops. As stated in my post, traffic is all day, every day, all year.

Unless you're telling me their band stinks, worst case is that you become intimately familiar with this year's music program.