Squatter Solution

[retiredguy123]

If you have a squatter in your house, you can lease your house to a squatter hunter. The squatter hunter can then legally move into your house and make life so miserable for the squatters that they will gladly move out. I think it is a great idea to solve the problem without spending months and thousands of dollars in a civil court.

Check out "Squatterhunter.com" and his YouTube videos.

[BigDawgInLakeDenham]

If you have a squatter in your house, you can lease your house to a squatter hunter. The squatter hunter can then legally move into your house and make life so miserable for the squatters that they will gladly move out. I think it is a great idea to solve the problem without spending months and thousands of dollars in a civil court.

Check out "Squatterhunter.com" and his YouTube videos.

I call my suppressors and hollow points "squatter hunters"....:boom: .......but a few decibels less

[Robnlaura]

If you have a squatter in your house, you can lease your house to a squatter hunter. The squatter hunter can then legally move into your house and make life so miserable for the squatters that they will gladly move out. I think it is a great idea to solve the problem without spending months and thousands of dollars in a civil court.

Check out "Squatterhunter.com" and his YouTube videos.
love that idea
watching him now

[Bill14564]

I call my suppressors and hollow points "squatter hunters"....:boom: .......but a few decibels less

Hey Big Man - let us know when you try that …. and when the trial date is.

[Stu from NYC]

Or use a low tech method bb guns

[manaboutown]

Jesse Watters interviewed him on his show a while back I now recall.

Squatting has become a big problem lots of places. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDjsIBeRnKo

[BigDawgInLakeDenham]

I call my suppressors and hollow points "squatter hunters"....:boom: .......but a few decibels less

Just because I joked about it doesn't mean I was actually there and it helps to have a cleaner on call:cool::cool:

[dhdallas]

If you have a squatter in your house, you can lease your house to a squatter hunter. The squatter hunter can then legally move into your house and make life so miserable for the squatters that they will gladly move out. I think it is a great idea to solve the problem without spending months and thousands of dollars in a civil court.

Check out "Squatterhunter.com" and his YouTube videos.

And we care about squatters...why? Squatters are not a problem for me and doubt they ever will be. Do you have squatter problems or just worry about a lot of stuff that rarely happens to normal people?

[fdpaq0580]

Vivisection! Take them to The House of Pain!

[GizmoWhiskers]

If you have a squatter in your house, you can lease your house to a squatter hunter. The squatter hunter can then legally move into your house and make life so miserable for the squatters that they will gladly move out. I think it is a great idea to solve the problem without spending months and thousands of dollars in a civil court.

Check out "Squatterhunter.com" and his YouTube videos.
Sounds like a major liability calamity waiting to happen.

Many people in TV own homes elsewhere. In FL one can not take someone's homestead in a civil law suit but hey... second homes and toys now that's another story.

Bringing in a third party to make life miserable for someone needing to be evicted using the courts... yeah have fun with that lol.

[MikeN]

Is this an issue in The Villages or just a talking point?

[Susan1717]

Our great governor in Florida just passed a bill that now gives police the right to immediately remove squatters without months of attorneys and court costs. Every state should do this.

[Ellwoodrick]

Having to have had to go through (in Pennsylvania) an eviction of a squatter, 4 months, Legal Fees to go to court (above the local Magistrate had to be done by an Attorney) and property damages. This change in Florida is a God send to property owners.

See Below


chevron-right (https://weartv.com/news/local/florida-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-revoke-squatters-rights-protect-property-owners)

[bmcgowan13]

Having to have had to go through (in Pennsylvania) an eviction of a squatter, 4 months, Legal Fees to go to court (above the local Magistrate had to be done by an Attorney) and property damages. This change in Florida is a God send to property owners.

See Below


chevron-right (https://weartv.com/news/local/florida-lawmakers-pass-bill-to-revoke-squatters-rights-protect-property-owners)
When did this pass?

What is the state statute?

I did not hear about this? This would be much quicker then the eviction process.

[huge-pigeons]

If I’m in a house I own, and somebody comes into my house while I’m in it or especially with my family, without my permission, isn’t it lawful to shoot them? Read the ‘castle doctrine’ or ‘stand your ground’ law. These days with criminals always having guns, I probably won’t waste time asking if they have a gun or if they are going to hurt us

[dewilson58]

If I’m in a house I own, and somebody comes into my house while I’m in it or especially with my family, without my permission, isn’t it lawful to shoot them? Read the ‘castle doctrine’ or ‘stand your ground’ law. These days with criminals always having guns, I probably won’t waste time asking if they have a gun or if they are going to hurt us

The thread is about squatters.

[retiredguy123]

When did this pass?

What is the state statute?

I did not hear about this? This would be much quicker then the eviction process.
I think the bill passed in the Senate, but it has not yet passed in the House, so it is not a statute. It is Florida House Bill 621.

[Andyb]

I’ll just use Smith and Wesson.

[bmcgowan13]

When did this pass?

What is the state statute?

I did not hear about this? This would be much quicker then the eviction process.

Found it! It is not law yet (that is why it is not in the statutes) It is a House Bill. It goes into effect July 1, 2024--and it cuts out all the mischief from squatters who generate and print out a fake lease and then demand to be evicted...long overdue and welcomed change to the statute.

[Normal]

There are squatters, but mostly in the new build areas.

[Girlcopper]

If I’m in a house I own, and somebody comes into my house while I’m in it or especially with my family, without my permission, isn’t it lawful to shoot them? Read the ‘castle doctrine’ or ‘stand your ground’ law. These days with criminals always having guns, I probably won’t waste time asking if they have a gun or if they are going to hurt us
You’re talking apple and oranges. Squatters vs home invasion. Read the posts closer

[asianthree]

The thread is about squatters.

Or family who stops in and never leaves:faint:

[OhioBuckeye]

Oh I don’t know if I would let a squatter move into your home in TV’s I really don’t think that’ll go over well there. But maybe you’re not talking about TV’s. Are you considering an illegal as a squatter. I would think about that very hard!

[retiredguy123]

Oh I don’t know if I would let a squatter move into your home in TV’s I really don’t think that’ll go over well there. But maybe you’re not talking about TV’s. Are you considering an illegal as a squatter. I would think about that very hard!
I don't understand your post. No one would allow a squatter to move into their house. Most people want to get rid of squatters.

[airstreamingypsy]

I don't need no steenkin' squatter hunter.... I can make someone's life so miserable to want to move out. Just ask my ex husband.

[RickyLee]

Don't know that there will be a trial date, sometimes you have to lose to win

[LeRoySmith]

I don't need no steenkin' squatter hunter.... I can make someone's life so miserable to want to move out. Just ask my ex husband.

best post of the month

[juddfl]

I loved your response. My big laugh for the day.

[MrFlorida]

Why do we even have this problem ? Seems like criminals have all the rights.

[Vermilion Villager]

There are squatters, but mostly in the new build areas.

Do you have some evidence of this?????

[Normal]

I don't understand your post. No one would allow a squatter to move into their house. Most people want to get rid of squatters.

They come in all shapes and sizes. A squatter can be a “temporary” live-in partner, a homeless worker in the new builds, a drug abuser living on land the Developer bought, someone who moved into a new build that hasn’t sold yet. The squatter is around.

Anecdotal evidence abounds. It can be the squatters that were found in the Leesburg restaurant last month, or the simple shoves of homeless moving out as development moves in. We had a homeless encampment that was near the corner of 44 and Morse a few months back discussed on another thread.

I feel sorry for most in the situation, not everyone got a break in life.

[fdpaq0580]

I’ll just use Smith and Wesson.

The attorneys?.

[MDLNB]

The attorneys?.
"Attorneys?" I use the partners of Ruger and Glock. When they talk some don't walk....:22yikes:

[Normal]

"Attorneys?" I use the partners of Ruger and Glock. When they talk some don't walk....:22yikes:

Both S&W 500 in one night stand and Glock 40 in the other. If anyone makes trouble, then it’s trouble they will get.

[Sandy and Ed]

Sounds like a major liability calamity waiting to happen.

Many people in TV own homes elsewhere. In FL one can not take someone's homestead in a civil law suit but hey... second homes and toys now that's another story.

Bringing in a third party to make life miserable for someone needing to be evicted using the courts... yeah have fun with that lol.
Soooo…….what’s your alternative??? A “pretty please move out”?? Or maybe just sign over the house or share it with them?? Of course this is could just be part of the redistribution of the wealth of those entitled dual home owners who worked their a55es off to afford the home.

[Carla B]

I don't need no steenkin' squatter hunter.... I can make someone's life so miserable to want to move out. Just ask my ex husband.

That's too funny!!

[Pugchief]

They come in all shapes and sizes. A squatter can be a “temporary” live-in partner, a homeless worker in the new builds, a drug abuser living on land the Developer bought, someone who moved into a new build that hasn’t sold yet. The squatter is around.

Anecdotal evidence abounds. It can be the squatters that were found in the Leesburg restaurant last month, or the simple shoves of homeless moving out as development moves in. We had a homeless encampment that was near the corner of 44 and Morse a few months back discussed on another thread.

I feel sorry for most in the situation, not everyone got a break in life.

Most references to squatters mean people who illegally move into and take possession of your home while you are out of town. This should not be tolerated in any way by government/police whose responsibility it is to enforce property rights. It should not need to involve drawn out legal fights.

You can feel sorry for those who did not get a break in life, but they still don't have the right to steal anyone's house.

[simplesimonsaid]

Where were Smith, Wesson, Ruger, Glock and associates the other night when the lady was being abducted? Talk is cheap.

[frayedends]

Where were Smith, Wesson, Ruger, Glock and associates the other night when the lady was being abducted? Talk is cheap.

Was the lady a client of their's? I personally go with Sig and Sauer over S&W. More reliable but that's just an opinion.

[dewilson58]

Where were Smith, Wesson, Ruger, Glock and associates the other night when the lady was being abducted? Talk is cheap.

Agree.

It's Big Hat, no cattle.

Guns are not going to help with squatters.

[Normal]

Was the lady a client of their's? I personally go with Sig and Sauer over S&W. More reliable but that's just an opinion.

Nah, a ladies gun is a Kimber 9mm pink. Of course if the Villager who was kidnapped and abducted had carried one, the whole thing may of played out differently.

[Pugchief]

Speaking of which:
NYC homeowner is arrested for changing the locks of her home to kick out squatters who broke in.

In New York, people illegally living in your property automatically become the legal
tenants after 30 days.

SOURCE LINK (https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1770117016482947458)

[mntlblok]

You’re talking apple and oranges. Squatters vs home invasion. Read the posts closer

How well defined (legally) is the term "squatter"?

[Velvet]

I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?

[JMintzer]

Speaking of which:
NYC homeowner is arrested for changing the locks of her home to kick out squatters who broke in.

In New York, people illegally living in your property automatically become the legal
tenants after 30 days.

SOURCE LINK (https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1770117016482947458)

Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

[Dusty_Star]

Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

& I didn't even need reasons 1 - 242

[Velvet]

Reason #243 why not to live in NYC...

NYC has been off limits for me since my one and only visit in 1972. I still remember it. Although the MET has my absolute favorite piece of art, better than the Louvre or Hermitage. I don’t think anything could actually intice me to go there.

[shaw8700@outlook.com]

Or family who stops in and never leaves:faint:

And never pays!

[marsil]

In Illinois, an awful state to begin with, Chicago I actually mean - a squatter lady moved into an apartment and when the management co notified her to get out, the police contacted them and they were told to stop harassing her. In Fl ( a much. better state) that would not be allowed and the squatter would be removed. (per the govenors new signed bill). What does that say folks????

[Battlebasset]

In Illinois, an awful state to begin with, Chicago I actually mean - a squatter lady moved into an apartment and when the management co notified her to get out, the police contacted them and they were told to stop harassing her. In Fl ( a much. better state) that would not be allowed and the squatter would be removed. (per the govenors new signed bill). What does that say folks????

It says we have a great governor and state government that (usually) makes sense.

[Girlcopper]

Is this an issue in The Villages or just a talking point?
It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

[Bill14564]

It says we have a great governor and state government that (usually) makes sense.

And before the DeSantis haters come out, let me preemptively say "There are 49 other states. Pick one and move there. Live under the policies you espouse and vote for".

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[retiredguy123]

It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.
I posted it because the squatter issue is a national news story. And, Florida is in the process of creating a new law to deal with squatters. A squatter could show up anywhere and cause a huge problem for a homeowner. The Villages has a lot of snowbirds who could be a prime target for squatters.

[mntlblok]

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Something tells me that my googling has been less than successful here.

[retiredguy123]

"The /// <reference path="..." /> directive is the most common of this group. It serves as a declaration of dependency between files. Triple-slash references instruct the compiler to include additional files in the compilation process. They also serve as a method to order the output when using out or outFile ."

Something tells me that my googling has been less than successful here.
On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

[Bill14564]

On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

Thank you

[OhioBuckeye]

Your right but that’s the question, would you rent to a squatter. My comment is pretty clear, would you lease to a squatter. It’s simple would you yes or no ?

[OhioBuckeye]

I agree with you but my question is about as clear as all or some of the other comments, read them!

[retiredguy123]

Your right but that’s the question, would you rent to a squatter. My comment is pretty clear, would you lease to a squatter. It’s simple would you yes or no ?
It is not a yes or no question. Some landlords rent to a tenant, who they think is not a squatter, until they stop paying rent, but refuse to move out. That tenant then becomes a squatter. Other homeowners do not rent to anyone, but a squatter moves into their house while they are out-of-town. Sometimes the squatter has a fake lease that they created, a fraudulent lease that a scammer created, or no lease at all.

[mntlblok]

On TOTV, "///" usually means that the poster wants to delete a post. However, the TOTV website does not allow a post to be deleted, even though there is an "edit/delete" option at the bottom of the post. Also, the post must have at least 3 characters, so many posters use /// to indicate a deleted post.

test to see if i can delete this test post

Ahhh! *Now* I get it! It allowed me to "edit it down to nothing" - a version of deletion - but that leaves fewer than three characters, so I'm stuck - unless I add back at least three characters of some sort. Son of a gun.

[Cybersprings]

It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.

Hmmmm. Just a few of the most recent posts:

Thats not a lifestyle visit. How about you just rent your own cart for the day.
You’re talking apple and oranges. Squatters vs home invasion. Read the posts closer
Well. Then don’t buy a house there. Easy. The complaint is ridiculous
Write it down? Obviously you don’t eat out often and are still living in the 20th century.
You’re wasting your time watching what other people do? Get a life!

Looks like it's someone else who needs to consider what they throw out there. In life, some people offer topics for discussion, and others offer rude and contemptuous responses in return. I think I know which of those types I will strive to be.

[frayedends]

Agree.

It's Big Hat, no cattle.

Guns are not going to help with squatters.

Really? Seems to me it would be very persuasive in getting them to leave. I can say that if I went to my home and there was a squatter I would evict them. The police are too busy to be bothered with such a thing.

[Velvet]

I posted it because the squatter issue is a national news story. And, Florida is in the process of creating a new law to deal with squatters. A squatter could show up anywhere and cause a huge problem for a homeowner. The Villages has a lot of snowbirds who could be a prime target for squatters.

This is true - but if you have a good home management company to look after your home, like Empty Nest, they would deal with it immediately. I’m notified even if a person parks on my driveway for a bit. And they would have to break in to enter which would make them burglars.

[jimjamuser]

Most references to squatters mean people who illegally move into and take possession of your home while you are out of town. This should not be tolerated in any way by government/police whose responsibility it is to enforce property rights. It should not need to involve drawn out legal fights.

You can feel sorry for those who did not get a break in life, but they still don't have the right to steal anyone's house.
I always go back to these facts. The Villages are a bubble of rich people that are OLD and surrounded by poor people that WISH they were rich. All the roads are public roads, so you can't keep anyone out. Gate shacks are for looks and to give residents a FALSE sense of security. Every day of the week in every section of this rich bubble there are relatively POOR lawn service people working. If they see a unoccupied home while they are working they JUST MIGHT tell their unemployed cousin with 3 kids about the location of this vacant (maybe just for the summer) home. JUST MIGHT!!!!!!!!
........So, I believe that this thread has reality and merit. And I have seen more unemployable children walking around in the last 3 years than 10 years prior to that.

[jimjamuser]

I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?
It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

[jimjamuser]

It’s just something he felt the need to throw out there to cause a ruckus. The usual baiter looking to start a debate because they were having a boring day or maybe a boring life.
I believe that this is a legitimate problem here in TV Land and all over the US. And - face it - the HAVE-NOTS are streaming over the southern border as we speak.......by the thousands.

[retiredguy123]

It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!
The problem is that, in many squatter situations, the sheriff tells the homeowner that it is not a crime to be a squatter. It is a civil matter and the homeowner needs to pursue the issue in a civil court. So, the sheriff provides no help at all.

[Velvet]

It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

A stranger is in my home when I walk in, do you think they don’t want to harm me? If they wanted my permission they would have asked me first. They don’t need a weapon to harm me. And I think my actions tend to be a reflex, automatic under danger. Like blinking, it just occurs naturally in the presence of danger. Some people freeze some people react. Generally, I don’t carry but that does not mean that the nearest thing to me can’t be used.

[retiredguy123]

A stranger is in my home when I walk in, do you think they don’t want to harm me? If they wanted my permission they would have asked me first. They don’t need a weapon to harm me. And I think my actions tend to be a reflex, automatic under danger. Like blinking, it just occurs naturally in the presence of danger. Some people freeze some people react. Generally, I don’t carry but that does not mean that the nearest thing to me can’t be used.
If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

[Normal]

It is probably NOT self defense unless they pull a knife or gun on you first. Your best legal action would be to inform the sheriff about the situation and let the PROFESSIONALS take it from there. Plus many people talk about shooting a person, that probably has NEVER shot a rabbit. The average person's hand will start shaking if they ever have to point a gun at a HUMAN BEING. Know your limitations - Socrates said, "know thyself"!!!!!!

I’m good, I’m a war veteran with a much higher threat to my life’s existence at the time.

[dewilson58]

Really? Seems to me it would be very persuasive in getting them to leave. I can say that if I went to my home and there was a squatter I would evict them. The police are too busy to be bothered with such a thing.

Yes really.

You may want to read: Just a moment... (https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/in-florida-what-stops-home-owners-from-shooting-sq-1973199.html#:~:text=However%2C%20if%20someone%20( a%20squatter,estate%20lawyer%20in%20your%20area).

[OrangeBlossomBaby]

I can’t quite see the difference between a squatter and a burglar, so the burglar decided to stay… how can that be defined as a tenant? Illegal entry is burglary or home invasion. You come home from the store, or a vacation and as you enter there is a stranger in your house. Who you shoot. How is that not self defense?

Some squatters were there legally. At first. Happened to someone I know here. An owner came down with a "friend" who was renting the guest bedroom. Except the friend never paid the rent, and took her golf cart and car out whenever she wanted, and decided she wasn't going to vacate when they had originally agreed. She started becoming aggressive, kicking the owner's dogs, and such. She had a key, because the owner GAVE her a key. But then the tenant changed their legal address to the owner's address, which gave credibility that she was authorized to live there and take permanent possession of the house.

Thankfully that person decided to victimize a nicer house somewhere else in the community, and moved out on their own.

But now - that person is absolutely someone else's problem. And is still pulling this stunt in The Villages. Just in a designer home instead of a double-wide.

Squatters can be invited and welcome tenants. Until they stop paying the rent, and refuse to move out. Then, they are in possession of the keys, they have the right to be there, until you go through the eviction process. Which can take months.

Hiring a "professional squatter hunter" sounds like a pretty good idea to me.

[Shipping up to Boston]

If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Question : After all that Charles Bronson tactic, should he, the hunter discharge the AK-47 or have Major the K9 take a bite outta crime on my behalf.....what part and how much of the ACLU suit against me and my estate will I be responsible for?

Asking for a law student

[frayedends]

Yes really.

You may want to read: Just a moment... (https://www.avvo.com/legal-answers/in-florida-what-stops-home-owners-from-shooting-sq-1973199.html#:~:text=However%2C%20if%20someone%20( a%20squatter,estate%20lawyer%20in%20your%20area).

I did not say I would shoot them. Of course if I found myself being threatened upon entering my own home I can't say I wouldn't defend myself. But usually just the mere presence of an armed individual diffuses the situation very quickly.

I was once approached at a gas station by 4 very unsavory looking fellas in Dorchester MA (not the nicest area). Before they were within 15 feet I made it known I was armed with a simple opening of my jacket. The turned around and left.

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

[It's Hot There]

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

That's an intruder (trespasser), not a squatter.

[frayedends]

That's an intruder (trespasser), not a squatter.


Don't squatters break in to vacant homes, have a fake lease written up and try to stay there? I mean, yeah they are intruders but also squatters.

[Velvet]

If you are dealing with a competent squatter, you wouldn't be able to walk in because they would have changed the locks.

But, if you execute a legal lease to a squatter hunter, they can hire a locksmith to change the locks, and move in with all the same rights as the squatter. They can bring a large dog (or two) who barks a lot and is not house broken, play loud music 24/7, make a huge mess in the kitchen and bathrooms, and walk around the house with loaded AK-47. I would also think they could remove all the interior doors and put them in storage. This is all legal and will get rid of the squatters much faster than a lawyer and a civil court.

Well when I lock myself out - doesn’t happen these days as I put extra key in master lock box like real estate people or give it to neighbor. I enter by breaking the window. But I prefer your idea of squatter chaser.
What about smoke bomb, fogging, tear gas etc? I’d figure out which one was legal (for bugs - big and small).

[Shipping up to Boston]

I did not say I would shoot them. Of course if I found myself being threatened upon entering my own home I can't say I wouldn't defend myself. But usually just the mere presence of an armed individual diffuses the situation very quickly.

I was once approached at a gas station by 4 very unsavory looking fellas in Dorchester MA (not the nicest area). Before they were within 15 feet I made it known I was armed with a simple opening of my jacket. The turned around and left.

Edit to add: I would not be in a situation where a squatter was a legit renter first or anything like that. A squatter in my home would have had to broken in and taken up residence while I was up north. So maybe not the same situation as some renter that stopped paying.

Dirty DOT. Love it

[retiredguy123]

Question : After all that Charles Bronson tactic, should he, the hunter discharge the AK-47 or have Major the K9 take a bite outta crime on my behalf.....what part and how much of the ACLU suit against me and my estate will I be responsible for?

Asking for a law student
I didn't suggest doing anything illegal. But, apparently, your plan would be to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars and wait months for a civil court judge to issue an eviction notice while the squatter destroys your house. No thanks.

[Normal]

Can the homeless be evicted from recreation center areas? You know the ones that use the dog park hoses for showers etc. Are they squatters?

[Shipping up to Boston]

I didn't suggest doing anything illegal. But, apparently, your plan would be to pay a lawyer thousands of dollars and wait months for a civil court judge to issue an eviction notice while the squatter destroys your house. No thanks.

Both scenarios aren’t ideal but from a liability/ financial standpoint....you do you

[Velvet]

The most difficult “squatters” to get rid of are family and friends - if you still want a relationship with them. It is best to be super careful who you invite to stay in your house for even a short time. I suppose if necessary, you could start renovations, change the flooring etc which requires everything to be moved out of wherever they are staying… you could pay to move them into a hotel, then stop paying the bills after a bit explaining you can’t do it anymore.

[Velvet]

Both scenarios aren’t ideal but from a liability/ financial standpoint....you do you

Liability? Stranger squatters are full out invaders of your home.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Liability? Stranger squatters are full out invaders of your home.

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

[biker1]

S&W 500? If a malevolent elephant breaks into your home then you are all set ;-)

Both S&W 500 in one night stand and Glock 40 in the other. If anyone makes trouble, then it’s trouble they will get.

[Normal]

S&W 500? If a malevolent elephant breaks into your home then you are all set ;-)

The ammo is expensive, but if a slug stops a perp, then it is all worth it.

[biker1]

I've shot a couple of rounds from a S&W 500. Just pointing that thing at someone should be sufficient to make then run in the other direction and require a change in underwear.

The ammo is expensive, but if a slug stops a perp, then it is all worth it.

[Velvet]

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.

Yes, I follow you. I guess that is the reason why even though I leave a couple of homes empty for long periods of time - with security and property management while I’m away, I would never consider renting out. Up north especially, renters view the place they rent as their home. This concept always bewildered me because if you rent a car it is not “your car” so why would a place you rent be “your place”? In my view, it should be up to government services to provide shelter for those who can’t afford it. I’ll happily support charity, subsidy etc
to help out but on my terms.

[retiredguy123]

If you read this whole thread, you would know the term 'squatter' is ambiguous. If someone enters your home and helps himself without your permission...thats a home invasion. Do what you have e a legal right to do. But I have no empathy for lazy, greedy owners who 'rent out' spaces to individuals that clearly are not vetted. Then act like a victim when you cant oust your vermin. Or have to call Dog the Squatter Hunter to clean up your mess. If someone is in your house, uninvited, call LEO. If you let them in, enjoy your retirement savings vaporize to Better call Saul. Don't conflate sir. You hire a 'contractor' with an AK 47 loaded and his fur baby Orca...and they injure, even a scumbag....enjoy the consequences.
The problem is that, in some states, what you are calling a home invader in your second sentence, the law calls them a squatter with tenant rights. Law enforcement may tell you that they cannot help you because it is a civil matter. Then, it can take months to evict the squatter, home invader, or whatever you want to call them.

[retiredguy123]

How many tenants verify that the landlord who signs the lease is actually the property owner or an authorized agent? There are scammers who find a vacant house and advertise it for rent. Then, they show the house to a tenant, provide a fraudulent lease, and collect a security deposit. The tenant then becomes an unwitting squatter. Easy money for the scammer, but a huge problem for the tenant and the owner.

[Shipping up to Boston]

The problem is that, in some states, what you are calling a home invader in your second sentence, the law calls them a squatter with tenant rights. Law enforcement may tell you that they cannot help you because it is a civil matter. Then, it can take months to evict the squatter, home invader, or whatever you want to call them.

I know , as many as these threads often do, they go off of OP original questions(s). I’ve done it myself. To review, I know of not one state in the union, where an individual can enter a premises, not their own and make themselves at home. No ambiguity there...that is a home invasion. Worse if they do so and an owner is home. Now if you rent a room, your whole home etc for an agreed upon duration and that individual refuses to vacate....now we’re in true squatter territory. Two very separate and distinct situations with vastly different (potential) outcomes. You are correct that every state handles it in a different way.

[Shipping up to Boston]

How many tenants verify that the landlord who signs the lease is actually the property owner or an authorized agent? There are scammers who find a vacant house and advertise it for rent. Then, they show the house to a tenant, provide a fraudulent lease, and collect a security deposit. The tenant then becomes an unwitting squatter. Easy money for the scammer, but a huge problem for the tenant and the owner.

This....I totally agree with. Unfortunately two victims (owner, unsuspecting tenant). This is where the waters get murky, the bureaucracy kicks in and reconciliation appears lost.

[Pugchief]

The sad reality is that as localities refuse to enforce property rights, prospective buyers will look elsewhere knowing that their purchase is not safe. Same with crime and same with business regulation. Kevin O'Leary thinks NY state is essentially unsafe to do business in anymore in light of some recent court rulings. I don't disagree.

Maybe when these insane localities have no businesses and no residents, which translates to no tax base, they will change their tune. I'm not holding my breath.

[Velvet]

The problem is that, in some states, what you are calling a home invader in your second sentence, the law calls them a squatter with tenant rights. Law enforcement may tell you that they cannot help you because it is a civil matter. Then, it can take months to evict the squatter, home invader, or whatever you want to call them.

I don’t know anywhere in the world where it is legal to break into someone’s home… but here in the US maybe in different jurisdictions. Goes against nature though. Can you take a bone away from a dog? It reacts naturally, so in some cases, do people.

Historically there were always differences in wealth among individuals. The poor traditionally want what the wealthy have. Communism tried to distribute things equally, the idea was great. Have you ever read Marx’s Manifesto?

Communist redistribution of wealth: the “government” took your home, your farm, your business, your children (literally) and gave the things to the party members. If you weren’t a party member you were out of luck, maybe even arrested. I won’t tell you what they did in prison, but I can tell you, people did not come out alive. The children were housed for schooling and brought up to turn their parents in if the parents did not support the government. How do I know? My mother was a teacher under the system. My dad was a leader in the uprising against Communism and therefore, if we wanted him to live we had to leave the country.

[shut the front door]

I know , as many as these threads often do, they go off of OP original questions(s). I’ve done it myself. To review, I know of not one state in the union, where an individual can enter a premises, not their own and make themselves at home. No ambiguity there...that is a home invasion. Worse if they do so and an owner is home. Now if you rent a room, your whole home etc for an agreed upon duration and that individual refuses to vacate....now we’re in true squatter territory. Two very separate and distinct situations with vastly different (potential) outcomes. You are correct that every state handles it in a different way.

341 posts in less than a month. You should get out more.

[Shipping up to Boston]

341 posts in less than a month. You should get out more.

I like to respond to and entertain the fellowship of the miserable. Assuming you’re a founding member. Thanks for noticing btw

[retiredguy123]

I know , as many as these threads often do, they go off of OP original questions(s). I’ve done it myself. To review, I know of not one state in the union, where an individual can enter a premises, not their own and make themselves at home. No ambiguity there...that is a home invasion. Worse if they do so and an owner is home. Now if you rent a room, your whole home etc for an agreed upon duration and that individual refuses to vacate....now we’re in true squatter territory. Two very separate and distinct situations with vastly different (potential) outcomes. You are correct that every state handles it in a different way.
I agree with the home invasion comment if the invasion is detected immediately. But, if the squatter lives in the house for several months, and the homeowner then calls the police, and the police are presented with a fake lease, the police have no way to verify the validity of the lease. This can happen when a vacant house is being sold by heirs of a deceased person. The heirs arrive from out-of-town to sell the house, but they find that someone has been living in the house. In some states, the police are not allowed to force the squatter out and it is turned over to a civil court. Then, it can takes many months for the civil court to take any action. This is just one example of how the police cannot help you.

[dewilson58]

341 posts in less than a month. You should get out more.

New Name, Old poster.

[JMintzer]

341 posts in less than a month. You should get out more.

https://media1.tenor.com/m/8CPvdgIHcZ4AAAAC/rookie-numbers.gif

[Shipping up to Boston]

New Name, Old poster.

So if someone responds on a forum, especially to ridiculous commentary....they’re a ‘new name, old poster’?!

This doesn’t have anything to do with you getting eviscerated on YOUR thread attempting to marginalize the TV golf pros as do nothings....is it?! Yeah, that’s what I thought

[LeRoySmith]

eviscerated marginalize

I came here to make fun of and laugh at people, it's not going to be nearly as much fun if I have to look up a bunch of big werds

[Shipping up to Boston]

https://media1.tenor.com/m/8CPvdgIHcZ4AAAAC/rookie-numbers.gif

I have no idea what ‘numbers’ you’re talking about. Like I said earlier, this is an interactive forum and when I see something interesting or feel like certain commentary needs to challenged, I’m all in. I’m sure for some of you resident trolls on here, that may present a problem in your small circle.

It’s amazing how geriatrics comes back to pediatrics on here.

As far as numbers go, are you one of those guys that still has your SkeeBall arcade tickets all tucked away in a ziplock bag from the 50’s?!

Lighten up Francis!

[LeRoySmith]

It’s amazing how geriatrics comes back to pediatrics on here.

Lighten up Francis!

this has to be the post of the day for today, bravo

[xcaligirl]

Our great governor in Florida just passed a bill that now gives police the right to immediately remove squatters without months of attorneys and court costs. Every state should do this.
I don't know why every state doesn't do this too. I know people who've been out of their house for MONTHS!! I just shake my head....

[Shipping up to Boston]

this has to be the post of the day for today, bravo

That was for you Leroy. Enjoy the camaraderie my friend....and your sense of humor ;)

[LeRoySmith]

That was for you Leroy. Enjoy the camaraderie my friend....and your sense of humor ;)

love you long time, well love you

[Topspinmo]

:beer3:I call my suppressors and hollow points "squatter hunters"....:boom: .......but a few decibels less

Yes it’s very hard to determine squatter from and intruder.:beer3:

[Topspinmo]

Hey Big Man - let us know when you try that …. and when the trial date is.

Breaking and entering I think still crime in Florida and you have right to defend yourself. Should Include when I come home and intruder inside my house, just make sure frontal shot don’t fall out front door is some states. :)

[Topspinmo]

And we care about squatters...why? Squatters are not a problem for me and doubt they ever will be. Do you have squatter problems or just worry about a lot of stuff that rarely happens to normal people?


Are you snowbird? If so you could have squatter take control while you’re gone? But 99% take over on abandoned homes. In villages pretty good record booting the few out.

[LeRoySmith]

Breaking and entering I think still crime in Florida and you have right to defend yourself. Should Include when I come home and intruder inside my house, just make sure frontal shot don’t fall out front door is some states. :)

Welcome To Florida... - YouTube (https://youtube.com/shorts/7LNBU7ZUmHM?si=yhlR-_EnbK7PnVew)

I think I've heard very similar thing from the Polk Cty sheriff. I love Florida.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Welcome To Florida... - YouTube (https://youtube.com/shorts/7LNBU7ZUmHM?si=yhlR-_EnbK7PnVew)

I think I've heard very similar thing from the Polk Cty sheriff. I love Florida.

An example of a great public servant

[JMintzer]

I have no idea what ‘numbers’ you’re talking about. Like I said earlier, this is an interactive forum and when I see something interesting or feel like certain commentary needs to challenged, I’m all in. I’m sure for some of you resident trolls on here, that may present a problem in your small circle.

It’s amazing how geriatrics comes back to pediatrics on here.

As far as numbers go, are you one of those guys that still has your SkeeBall arcade tickets all tucked away in a ziplock bag from the 50’s?!

Lighten up Francis!

Self reflection is a wonderful thing...

And if you can't figure out the meaning of the gif I posted, that's on you...

[Topspinmo]

Is this an issue in The Villages or just a talking point?


Been mentioned in the not mentionable news couple times over years. Not that often. Each time sheriff’s department promptly removed them.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Self reflection is a wonderful thing...

And if you can't figure out the meaning of the gif I posted, that's on you...

Thank you kind sage for reposting one of my finer posts in my short tenure on TOTV. I don’t do gif(s) btw, I let my own original thoughts and creativity speak for itself

[JMintzer]

Thank you kind sage for reposting one of my finer posts in my short tenure on TOTV. I don’t do gif(s) btw, I let my own original thoughts and creativity speak for itself

Yeah, you might want to rethink that game plan...

[BobnBev]

An example of a great public servant


GRADY JUDD----Best Sheriff in Florida.

[LeRoySmith]

GRADY JUDD----Best Sheriff in Florida.

I sent him a letter asking him to consider Lake county. I didn't get a response.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Yeah, you might want to rethink that game plan...

That’s it?!
You’re from DC, at least channel some of the only good to come out of there, Dave Chappelle

[Shipping up to Boston]

I sent him a letter asking him to consider Lake county. I didn't get a response.

He doesn’t like ‘northern’ counties!

[LeRoySmith]

He doesn’t like ‘northern’ counties!

I get unreasonable amounts of joy from his press conferences.

[JMintzer]

That’s it?!
You’re from DC, at least channel some of the only good to come out of there, Dave Chappelle

MD, not DC... And I'm doing my best to leave this place...

[Shipping up to Boston]

I get unreasonable amounts of joy from his press conferences.
Right! He’s making people YouTube famous that didn’t necessarily want to be!

[Shipping up to Boston]

MD, not DC... And I'm doing my best to leave this place...

I hear ya!
Redskins errr Commanders
Bullets errr Wizards
Can’t keep up with it my friend

[Kelevision]

Has nobody seen the 1990 movie called Pacific Heights where Michal Keaton plays a squatter?

[retiredguy123]

Has nobody seen the 1990 movie called Pacific Heights where Michal Keaton plays a squatter?
Great movie

[Shipping up to Boston]

Has nobody seen the 1990 movie called Pacific Heights where Michal Keaton plays a squatter?

Yes
With Melanie Griffith. He took that apartment back to to the studs. Great movie. Creepy

[Kelevision]

I’ll just use Smith and Wesson.

Which is the very reason squatter rights exist.

[Grinchie]

There is a group ‘Squatter Squad’ who show up with a lease from the owner & LEOs stand aside & let them in.
They then dispose of all items/people inside.
Another of the same group show up for an ‘inspection’ with the owner’s signature & create similar results.

[Dusty_Star]

Sheriff Bob Johnson, Santa Rosa County is also VERY good.

Politically incorrect sheriff tells citizens to shoot to kill home invaders to '''save taxpayers money''' | Fox News (https://www.foxnews.com/media/politically-incorrect-sheriff-tells-citizens-shoot-kill-home-invaders-save-taxpayers-money)

[Dusty_Star]

Has nobody seen the 1990 movie called Pacific Heights where Michal Keaton plays a squatter?

I saw it.

[Topspinmo]

That’s it?!
You’re from DC, at least channel some of the only good to come out of there, Dave Chappelle

So what’s so special about Dave Chappelle? Oooooo, the dirty one sided jokes, :oops:

[Shipping up to Boston]

So what’s so special about Dave Chappelle? Oooooo, the dirty one sided jokes, :oops:

I gotta be careful now. To paraphrase a great quote ' there are those who enter a battle of wits that are clearly unarmed'!
That said, a couple of our 'neighbors' mustve contacted the feelings police so now I'm in the TOTV lock up, the hole more specifically

[Dusty_Star]

I gotta be careful now. ...
That said, a couple of our 'neighbors' mustve contacted the feelings police so now I'm in the TOTV lock up, the hole more specifically

Just a friendly inquiry, if you are in lockup, how are you posting? Asking for a friend of course.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Just a friendly inquiry, if you are in lockup, how are you posting? Asking for a friend of course.

I’m being facetious. It’s one hit, so far.

[JMintzer]

I gotta be careful now. To paraphrase a great quote ' there are those who enter a battle of wits that are clearly unarmed'!
That said, a couple of our 'neighbors' mustve contacted the feelings police so now I'm in the TOTV lock up, the hole more specifically

If you're still posting, you're not in "Lock Up"...

Ask me how I know... :boxing2:

[JMintzer]

I’m being facetious. It’s one hit, so far.

Rookie... ;)

[Shipping up to Boston]

If you're still posting, you're not in "Lock Up"...

Ask me how I know... :boxing2:

Thought I saw you in D block! Haha

[JMintzer]

Thought I saw you in D block! Haha

https://y.yarn.co/840521e9-bf2b-4fee-8074-b71caa8e7fab_text.gif

[Shipping up to Boston]

https://y.yarn.co/840521e9-bf2b-4fee-8074-b71caa8e7fab_text.gif

"Get busy living...or get busy dying"

Great movie!

[ThirdOfFive]

Florida House Bill 621 was signed into law yesterday (March 27, 2024) by the Florida governor.

Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met:

- The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property;
- The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and
- The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.

Simple, straight and to-the-point.

[Velvet]

Florida House Bill 621 was signed into law yesterday (March 27, 2024) by the Florida governor.

Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met:

- The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property;
- The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and
- The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.

Simple, straight and to-the-point.

Florida again comes out ahead. Love this state!

[Topspinmo]

Both S&W 500 in one night stand and Glock 40 in the other. If anyone makes trouble, then it’s trouble they will get.

You might want leave S&W 500 for grizzly bears. If might just go through what ever you hit, through wall and hit something.

[Shipping up to Boston]

Florida House Bill 621 was signed into law yesterday (March 27, 2024) by the Florida governor.

Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met:

- The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property;
- The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and
- The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.

Simple, straight and to-the-point.

There are other bullet points that benefit the homeowner and punish the enablers....


Governor DeSantis Signs Legislation to End the Squatters Scam in Florida (https://www.flgov.com/2024/03/27/governor-desantis-signs-legislation-to-end-the-squatters-scam-in-florida/)

[LuvNH]

Why do we even have this problem ? Seems like criminals have all the rights.

And you can blame the attorneys for this. If there is money in it, the attorneys will find a way.

[Bay Kid]

Florida House Bill 621 was signed into law yesterday (March 27, 2024) by the Florida governor.

Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met:

- The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property;
- The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and
- The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.

Simple, straight and to-the-point.

Seems like common sense, but our country has flipped on common sense.

Great job Florida!!!

[ThirdOfFive]

Seems like common sense, but our country has flipped on common sense.

Great job Florida!!!
Cooler heads and more rational thinking do seem to predominate here in The Sunshine State.

[Normal]

You might want leave S&W 500 for grizzly bears. If might just go through what ever you hit, through wall and hit something.

I just don’t want to miss, I wear reading glasses and it might have to be used in low light situations.

It also weighs a little bit more than most things in the house so if I fire all my rounds it serves well as a club.

[LeRoySmith]

I just don’t want to miss, I wear reading glasses and it might have to be used in low light situations.

It also weighs a little bit more than most things in the house so if I fire all my rounds it serves well as a club.

Isn't that cannon only 5 rounds? I prefer 15 rounds with quick reloading capability (accuracy by volume). The good news is even if you miss with all 5 you've probably scared them to death.

[Normal]

Isn't that cannon only 5 rounds? I prefer 15 rounds with quick reloading capability (accuracy by volume). The good news is even if you miss with all 5 you've probably scared them to death.

And there is a sling strap on the end of that 10 inch handle/barrel I can also use for defense. It’s a great protection device every senior should have. Even if just one round hit, it gives us a chance to defend ourselves or get away. Granted we may be deaf after using it though.

[Shipping up to Boston]

I just don’t want to miss, I wear reading glasses and it might have to be used in low light situations.

It also weighs a little bit more than most things in the house so if I fire all my rounds it serves well as a club.

By any chance have you seen 'Old People' (2022) Netflix

[Normal]

By any chance have you seen 'Old People' (2022) Netflix

Will give it a chance on our next rain day

[patfla06]

Most references to squatters mean people who illegally move into and take possession of your home while you are out of town. This should not be tolerated in any way by government/police whose responsibility it is to enforce property rights. It should not need to involve drawn out legal fights.

You can feel sorry for those who did not get a break in life, but they still don't have the right to steal anyone's house.

Thank you for a common sense answer. We seem to have lost all common sense in our country.

[Topspinmo]

I just don’t want to miss, I wear reading glasses and it might have to be used in low light situations.

It also weighs a little bit more than most things in the house so if I fire all my rounds it serves well as a club.


With kick from 500 most likely you will miss:beer3:

[Two Bills]

Florida House Bill 621 was signed into law yesterday (March 27, 2024) by the Florida governor.

Under HB 621, a property owner can request law enforcement to immediately remove a squatter from their property if the following conditions are met:

- The individual has unlawfully entered and remains on the property;
- The individual has been directed to leave the property by the owner but has not done so; and
- The individual is not a current or former tenant in a legal dispute.

Simple, straight and to-the-point.

Wish we had such a simple law like that in UK.
Here, the property owner would probably be arrested for a 'Hate Crime' if they had the temerity to even ask the squatters to leave!

[Shipping up to Boston]

Wish we had such a simple law like that in UK.
Here, the property owner would probably be arrested for a 'Hate Crime' if they had the temerity to even ask the squatters to leave!

Good to see the dumbing down of laws and ordinances isn’t solely confined to US soil!

[Shipping up to Boston]

America’s Sheriff....Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd making the rounds on cable news re: new squatter law. The man is no nonsense. Refreshing

[Blueblaze]

America’s Sheriff....Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd making the rounds on cable news re: new squatter law. The man is no nonsense. Refreshing

Love it! Hope Sumter County gets the message. Because it doesn't do us any good for the Legislature to give us a law if the cops won't enforce it.

For instance --

The day I bought my fully furnished rental property, I drove straight from the closing to my new property and discovered the previous owner in my living room stealing my TV. The TV from the master bedroom was already in the back of their Mercedes SUV in my driveway. Both TV's were listed on the inventory for the sale.

We had words, of course, and then I called 911. I told the dispatcher at the Sumter County Sheriff's department that I was experiencing a home invasion and burglary and the thief was standing right in front of me. I asked if I should I hold them at gun point until they arrived. You'd think that would be enough to roll a patrol car, but instead, the dispatcher wanted to know the circumstances. The moment I mentioned "closing" she told me to take it up with my closing agent and warned me against holding them.

So if our sheriff doesn't enforce the existing laws against home invasion and burglary, why would they treat a new law against squatting any differently?

I see the day when my alarm alerts me by phone that someone has broken into the house during the summer when it's un-occupied. A few minutes later, the Sheriff calls and tells me the guy who kicked in my door has a signed lease in his hand, notarized by someone named "Guzman" from "Sinaloa Cartel Migrant Services Company", so would I mind turning off the alarm so my new "tenants" can get some sleep?

[Shipping up to Boston]

Love it! Hope Sumter County gets the message. Because it doesn't do us any good for the Legislature to give us a law if the cops won't enforce it.

For instance --

The day I bought my fully furnished rental property, I drove straight from the closing to my new property and discovered the previous owner in my living room stealing my TV. The TV from the master bedroom was already in the back of their Mercedes SUV in my driveway. Both TV's were listed on the inventory for the sale.

We had words, of course, and then I called 911. I told the dispatcher at the Sumter County Sheriff's department that I was experiencing a home invasion and burglary and the thief was standing right in front of me. I asked if I should I hold them at gun point until they arrived. You'd think that would be enough to roll a patrol car, but instead, the dispatcher wanted to know the circumstances. The moment I mentioned "closing" she told me to take it up with my closing agent and warned me against holding them.

So if our sheriff doesn't enforce the existing laws against home invasion and burglary, why would they treat a new law against squatting any differently?

I see the day when my alarm alerts me by phone that someone has broken into the house during the summer when it's un-occupied. A few minutes later, the Sheriff calls and tells me the guy who kicked in my door has a signed lease in his hand, notarized by someone named "Guzman" from "Sinaloa Cartel Migrant Services Company", so would I mind turning off the alarm so my new "tenants" can get some sleep?

Cant speak to your situation specifically but be assured Grady will be the standard all other sheriff's will have to follow. No excuses now

[LeRoySmith]

With kick from 500 most likely you will miss:beer3:

The first shot wouldn't be too bad, subsistent shots especially if made quickly are much more difficult. Center mass for the first shot, aim at their belt buckle for follow up shots and maybe it won't go over their head.